Cauldron Ladies

[vw]

How could asking the hero to step forward be a trap? 

It's only me that thinks she's out of order.  The rest of you will be queuing up to book presumably.   

Because the cauldron girls sound cunts, some with connections with dodgy dealers and god knows who.

IMO would be stupid to do what you and your daisy want.   

[waynekerr600]

Just because everyone disagrees, doesn't mean I'm wrong. 

Usually the balance of probability is against you when that happens.

It usually makes me at least think have I got it wrong when there is such an imbalance of opinion.

[The Outsider]

You are cuntstruck and are being manipulated. That much is clear.

I like you less now.   

[Winker121]

Because the cauldron girls sound cunts, some with connections with dodgy dealers and god knows who.

IMO would be stupid to do what you and your daisy want.

Spot on there.

[Belgarion]

Because to me, she's even less trustworthy than the others! I'd hate to book her by accident.  Especially now! 


I don't know.  You could be right.  Nobody leaked the contents to me.

I don't believe you

[Belgarion]

I like you less now.   

I'm surprised by you. Thought you were wiser.

[The Outsider]

Usually the balance of probability is against you when that happens.

It usually makes me at least think have I got it wrong when there is such an imbalance of opinion.

I did say weeks ago that I'd shut up if nobody else thought the same.  One or two people were broadly supportive back then but it's hard to go against popular opinion on here.  The usual cheap accusations are being thrown about to discredit me - although granted not by you.     

I do my bit on here and you can make your own minds up from my posting and review history as to whether my opinions are my own or not.  I think we've all been shafted by the informant as much as the rest of the cauldron.

[waynekerr600]

I don't really see how.

All I've done is add some extra people to my never list and had a reminder that you can't be too careful.

[The Outsider]

I don't believe you

I have seen the one screenshot. If I'd seen more, I'd comment on more. 

I'm surprised by you. Thought you were wiser.

I think we're being taken for mugs my VW and his mole.  That's all.  I think the group was a good idea that got out of control but there are more villains than we've seen. 

[vw]

I have seen the one screenshot. If I'd seen more, I'd comment on more. 


I think we're being taken for mugs my VW and his mole.  That's all.  I think the group was a good idea that got out of control but there are more villains than we've seen.

So you got 1 screenshot, was that from lydia?   

[The Outsider]

So you got 1 screenshot, was that from lydia?   

It was.  Of the original NUM report.  I've said that on here somewhere. So... how many did you get? 

I'll say this to your "face" then let it rest... You haven't posted these messages for our benefit and neither has your leak.  She did the right thing by Waynekerr early on then you've aided and abetted her own agenda.  The girls messed up and have been held to account.  I think the leak should also be held to account as she can't be trusted either. 

[datwabbit]

I have. In the circumstances the mocking was in particularly bad taste and actually shows complete contempt for punters.

She's never denied it and never apologised for it.

The lack of denial or apology shows her true contempt for punters. Scarlett and her put on a great show on UKE still but I would like to see them follow Lydia and just fuck off out of the business. Just thinking they can bluster through and keep the regulars happy. I couldn't believe how some girls were saying how upset she was but never commented on what she said.

[vw]

It was.  Of the original NUM report.  I've said that on here somewhere. So... how many did you get? 

I'll say this to your "face" then let it rest... You haven't posted these messages for our benefit and neither has your leak.  She did the right thing by Waynekerr early on then you've aided and abetted her own agenda.  The girls messed up and have been held to account.  I think the leak should also be held to account as she can't be trusted either.

You have said that for daisy a few times.

How is posting saying to my face or is this a veiled threat?   

Well if anon wants chastising by a you and a coven thats their choice.  Would not bank on it, very poor name fishing.   

[oldrockingchair]

Jesus I thought this was dead and buried, this whole thread has turned into a a bit of a slagging slating match between some valued punters in the north east.

Dont really understand why the leaker would send screenshots to someone who doesnt opunt in the north east but has a very active involvment in the trouble and trolling of people in the north east, I can only suspect that this was done oput of spite to cause yet even more shit when more of the 200+ screenshots are released at free will.

What troubles me is the bickering between people, that is causing a massive rift and anyone who is in possession of any sensitive material may deem it as a defense tactic to produce such material to discredit anyone who is seen as a threat !!

Just an observation that may well turn into reality.. Lets stop fighting gents and start and think about our own safety

[datwabbit]

Because the cauldron girls sound cunts, some with connections with dodgy dealers and god knows who.

IMO would be stupid to do what you and your daisy want.

I think BRC is no stranger to this. She provides a business service that the girls like which is fair enough but when Lydia was kicking off originally, she didn't seem to pursuade her to stop (as her friend) and seemingly didn't stop Milly kicking out another agency. She's all over the likes and kept trying to shut the conversation down bantering about Anth.

And as many say how lovely Holly is, she said that she couldn't believe Daisy was like that but then she doesn't respond to the screenshots. Then she works for BRC. I'm certainly not saying she's ever mocked punters but her selective responses and her choice of representation, well that's enough for me to not see her.

[Leisa247]

FFS just move on. I think enough has been said on this thread !

[The Outsider]

You have said that for daisy a few times.

How is posting saying to my face or is this a veiled threat?   

Well if anon wants chastising by a you and a coven thats their choice.  Would not bank on it, very poor name fishing.   

I'm saying this for me, like everything else I've ever said on here or UKE.  It's not me with the 200 screenshots. 

You know very well that's not a threat, veiled or otherwise.  I was merely affording you the courtesy of addressing you directly.  You're welcome.

I'd like the name for my own benefit to add her to my blacklist.  We each have our own criteria for that, and she meets mine.  I have no doubt that won't keep her awake at night though. 

[datwabbit]

FFS just move on. I think enough has been said on this thread !

Haven't you found the ignore button yet?

There's genuine anger here and guys are allowed to vent. Unlike others, we do it publicly.

[Leisa247]

Haven't you found the ignore button yet?

There's genuine anger here and guys are allowed to vent. Unlike others, we do it publicly.

Thanks for the update, it makes a refreshing change from punters slagging each other off.

[The Outsider]

Jesus I thought this was dead and buried, this whole thread has turned into a a bit of a slagging slating match between some valued punters in the north east.

Dont really understand why the leaker would send screenshots to someone who doesnt opunt in the north east but has a very active involvment in the trouble and trolling of people in the north east, I can only suspect that this was done oput of spite to cause yet even more shit when more of the 200+ screenshots are released at free will.

What troubles me is the bickering between people, that is causing a massive rift and anyone who is in possession of any sensitive material may deem it as a defense tactic to produce such material to discredit anyone who is seen as a threat !!

Just an observation that may well turn into reality.. Lets stop fighting gents and start and think about our own safety

That's my basic problem here.  It's not for our benefit.  Meanwhile, I'm going to let it rest while we still have some semblance of respect for each other.

[bushman]

I'm saying this for me, like everything else I've ever said on here or UKE.  It's not me with the 200 screenshots. 

You know very well that's not a threat, veiled or otherwise.  I was merely affording you the courtesy of addressing you directly.  You're welcome.

I'd like the name for my own benefit to add her to my blacklist.  We each have our own criteria for that, and she meets mine.  I have no doubt that won't keep her awake at night though.

Why do you really want to see the 200 screenshots?

[vw]

Haven't you found the ignore button yet?

Of course that idiot hasnt, seems coporaphagic to me.   

[oldrockingchair]

That's my basic problem here.  It's not for our benefit.  Meanwhile, I'm going to let it rest while we still have some semblance of respect for each other.

Then it's a simple case of who will the cunt be to release info about a fellow punter because he just simply can as an act of revenge for a comment he din't agree with, then what will happen its rediculous.

[vw]

That's my basic problem here.  It's not for our benefit.  Meanwhile, I'm going to let it rest while we still have some semblance of respect for each other.

Well people in the region would have their own agenda personally i have no allegiances in the region.

Not a job to trust fanbois with IMO.

[vw]

Why do you really want to see the 200 screenshots?

Feeling left out maybe?   

[The Outsider]

Why do you really want to see the 200 screenshots?

I don't want the screenshots.  I'd simply like to blacklist the informant.  That information is being withheld even though it would be useful to punters. 

[oldrockingchair]

I don't want the screenshots.  I'd simply like to blacklist the informant.  That information is being withheld even though it would be useful to punters.

I think this just needs to be put to bed, a WG releases info to a punter who doesnt punt in the NE, has no ties to the north east but openly trolls NE punters and WG's for the entertainment value, is that not strange or collusive ?

But for what reason ?

[vw]

I don't want the screenshots.  I'd simply like to blacklist the informant.  That information is being withheld even though it would be useful to punters.

Good luck with that, i suspect you might need supernatural assistance though.   

[datwabbit]

Thanks for the update, it makes a refreshing change from punters slagging each other off.

Regardless of whether it's two wrongs don't make a right or I'm paying just to fuck them etc... there's been no apology to punters.

They've gone quiet for a time, then restarted the PR machine and worked towards getting business back on track. No apology. FFS - if they can fake an orgasm then they can fake an apology.

And how have their reviews dried up? A flurry of them after a few weeks which were bizzarely fluffy and nothing further. Don't tell me that punters have been scared off reviewing.

The whole thing shows contempt for clients. This post should stay at the top because there's no sign that this won't happen again.

[datwabbit]

I think this just needs to be put to bed, a WG releases info to a punter who doesnt punt in the NE, has no ties to the north east but openly trolls NE punters and WG's for the entertainment value, is that not strange or collusive ?

But for what reason ?

Wayne has info and punts locally.

But probably because local punters might be concerned about blacklisting if she's popular.

[oldrockingchair]

Wayne has info and punts locally.

Yeah Wayne has info because he was wrongly done too, and the decent thing was done he was informed, he is pissed off at the wrong accusation but seriously doubt he will use any of that info as he knows what its like to be on the shitty end of the stick..

[Belgarion]

Well people in the region would have their own agenda personally i have no allegiances in the region.

Not a job to trust fanbois with IMO.

Exactly.

Makes perfect sense to bring in an unbiased observer. We've seen what bias can do to some here, excusing the behaviour of his damsel, daisy.

[Belgarion]

I think this just needs to be put to bed, a WG releases info to a punter who doesnt punt in the NE, has no ties to the north east but openly trolls NE punters and WG's for the entertainment value, is that not strange or collusive ?

But for what reason ?

It was put to bed until it was resurrected by fanboys.

[daviemac]

It was put to bed until it was resurrected by fanboys.

What I can't understand is all those who come on the thread and try to tell others they should no longer post on it and it should be 'put to bed'. I've said all I need to say on this subject but that doesn't mean others have and I still read their comments.

There's 100's of threads on this site I have no interest in so I don't read them, I would suggest those who have lost interest in this one follow suit.     

[Kev3773]

What I can't understand is all those who come on the thread and try to tell others they should no longer post on it and it should be 'put to bed'. I've said all I need to say on this subject but that doesn't mean others have and I still read their comments.

There's 100's of threads on this site I have no interest in so I don't read them, I would suggest those who have lost interest in this one follow suit.     

+ 1 only comment if it's relevant to the thread or simply ignore and read something you're interested in. 

[vw]

It was put to bed until it was resurrected by fanboys.

Indeed it was, probably as a result if hen pecking  pillow talk.     

[Belgarion]

What I can't understand is all those who come on the thread and try to tell others they should no longer post on it and it should be 'put to bed'. I've said all I need to say on this subject but that doesn't mean others have and I still read their comments.

There's 100's of threads on this site I have no interest in so I don't read them, I would suggest those who have lost interest in this one follow suit.     

They are trying to score points with the damsels in distress.

They forget the damsels brought this on themselves

[The Outsider]

If my fellow NE punters are happy that a local girl has shared confidential information with a known trouble maker, then I'm surprised.  I think I've established my feelings now! I hope you haven't trusted the wrong people because you certainly can't trust the informant or VW.  We can't even blacklist her because that information is being kept from us on this site that is supposed to help punters. 

My opinion is that justice isn't being done proportionately, and there are significant "wrongs" here that aren't justified by the initial good deed for Wayne.  What kind of person shares 200+ screenshots with an anonymous agitator? She's worse than the gossips in my opinion and hasn't even got the courage of her convictions to post them in her own name. 

Sadly, rather than engaging with the argument, cheap, predicable and inaccurate digs are being used to try and discredit me.  If those of you in the NE - who are actually affected by this - think I'm a fanboy, go and read my contributions from the last few years and make your own minds up.  It's a shame that an alternative view can't be respected and discussed on it's own merit. 
 
I don't defended the gossip, I can simply see why it happened.  I think a small number of the 20 group members have unfairly taken the brunt of the backlash and I think those girls have been selected deliberately.  That's not right.  This leak wasn't to help us.  It was to help the anonymous grass by damaging her competition.  She's also let VW use the NE as his playground.  Again.  I'm going to stop facilitating that.   

[Shearer1955]

It would be interesting to view some of the screenshots with the disparaging remarks about punters because that would really offer an insight into the views held and dent the credibility of the cauldron mob but I doubt they will become public but it would offer a proper perspective.  The fact that there have been no apologies from any of them is somewhat galling particularly when their actions are indefensible...seems more like bleeding hearts offered as a defence on their behalf and supposed vulnerability issues take precedence over the reality of what they have done to themselves.

We can argue about the integrity and motives of the "whistleblower" but it is disturbing that the whores involved have shown no contrition for their actions and have used fanboys to attempt a rehabilitation exercise with Positive reviews...

[vw]

She's also let VW use the NE as his playground.  Again.  I'm going to stop facilitating that.   

Well i thought you posted this? make up your mind fanboi!!   

Evening VW, good of you to join us.  Have you been been given permission to post now? 

[Belgarion]

If my fellow NE punters are happy that a local girl has shared confidential information with a known trouble maker, then I'm surprised.  I think I've established my feelings now! I hope you haven't trusted the wrong people because you certainly can't trust the informant or VW.  We can't even blacklist her because that information is being kept from us on this site that is supposed to help punters. 

My opinion is that justice isn't being done proportionately, and there are significant "wrongs" here that aren't justified by the initial good deed for Wayne.  What kind of person shares 200+ screenshots with an anonymous agitator? She's worse than the gossips in my opinion and hasn't even got the courage of her convictions to post them in her own name. 

Sadly, rather than engaging with the argument, cheap, predicable and inaccurate digs are being used to try and discredit me.  If those of you in the NE - who are actually affected by this - think I'm a fanboy, go and read my contributions from the last few years and make your own minds up.  It's a shame that an alternative view can't be respected and discussed on it's own merit. 
 
I don't defended the gossip, I can simply see why it happened.  I think a small number of the 20 group members have unfairly taken the brunt of the backlash and I think those girls have been selected deliberately.  That's not right.  This leak wasn't to help us.  It was to help the anonymous grass by damaging her competition.  She's also let VW use the NE as his playground.  Again.  I'm going to stop facilitating that.   

I've had many spats with VW and for all my years here I have seen him put UKP and Punters No.1.

I trust him far more than i trust you.

[oldrockingchair]

It would be interesting to view some of the screenshots with the disparaging remarks about punters because that would really offer an insight into the views held and dent the credibility of the cauldron mob but I doubt they will become public but it would offer a proper perspective.  The fact that there have been no apologies from any of them is somewhat galling particularly when their actions are indefensible...seems more like bleeding hearts offered as a defence on their behalf and supposed vulnerability issues take precedence over the reality of what they have done to themselves.

We can argue about the integrity and motives of the "whistleblower" but it is disturbing that the whores involved have shown no contrition for their actions and have used fanboys to attempt a rehabilitation exercise with Positive reviews...

One of the route causes of this disscusion now is the fact sensitve material was leaked from a closed group to a punter or punters by one member of the group, who reallly gives a fuck about what they talked about, what we should be giving a fuck about is what was leaked that shouldn't of been, ultimatley we use this site to swap details of WG's from sexual likes to the state of her digs this is documented gossiping open yes but still documented, the problem is that info should not of been leaked, what was the intention of leaking the info with the exception of the WK report which should of gone to him and only him.

What we need to ascertain is what was leaked, why was it leaked and really will it be used in vengeful attacks on punters who dont agree with the punters views who has the leaked stuff..

[vw]

One of the route causes of this disscusion now is the fact sensitve material was leaked from a closed group to a punter or punters by one member of the group, who reallly gives a fuck about what they talked about, what we should be giving a fuck about is what was leaked that shouldn't of been, ultimatley we use this site to swap details of WG's from sexual likes to the state of her digs this is documented gossiping open yes but still documented, the problem is that info should not of been leaked, what was the intention of leaking the info with the exception of the WK report which should of gone to him and only him.

What we need to ascertain is what was leaked, why was it leaked and really will it be used in vengeful attacks on punters who dont agree with the punters views who has the leaked stuff..

Well im sure admin wont tolerate attacks on other punters if this hypotheticaly happened.   

Thanks for your paid post though, enjoy the extra kiss. 

[datwabbit]

What we need to ascertain is what was leaked, why was it leaked and really will it be used in vengeful attacks on punters who dont agree with the punters views who has the leaked stuff..

1. Comments about punters made by escorts were leaked.
2. To give insight into a closed group. Our comments are public and one of mine led Scarlett to call me a mysogenist (cheers Scarlett as you're reading this). They still read these threads.
3. There's been no punterleaks style mass dumping of information and I don't see it happening. Outside punters are not worried about being blacklisted by popular girls.

WHERE'S MY FUCKING APOLOGY SCARLETT!!!!

[oldrockingchair]

Well im sure admin wont tolerate attacks on other punters if this hypotheticaly happened.   

Thanks for your paid post though, enjoy the extra kiss. 

  I truly hope any material leaked won't find its way onto any threads, for anyone who has been less than careful with there lips, just for the record  I like many others would like to see harmony restored and self preservation put on the shelf, who if anyone has actually gained from this, punters no, WG's no, even the leak I would say no because of the risk of her ID being proved, so realistically this whole thing is pointless and should of been between WK and the person who told him about the NUM report, as she thought it was false which looking back probably is.. the rest of it has just been way over dramatised with no one really gaining anything apart from other parties who are very quiet watching us squabble between ourselves..

Or was that the intention ?

[datwabbit]

Snip ..

It's one thread and it gets a lot of attention. Ignore it and you'll never be bothered by it.

There's plenty of others to get involved in, locally and in other regions. There's people on here I realize that on this issue, we'll never agree but we can still interact on other punting issues.

The rates thread is quiet, I'm betting my left bollock it get's some attention next year.

[vw]

I truly hope any material leaked won't find its way onto any threads, for anyone who has been less than careful with there lips, just for the record  I like many others would like to see harmony restored and self preservation put on the shelf, who if anyone has actually gained from this, punters no, WG's no, even the leak I would say no because of the risk of her ID being proved, so realistically this whole thing is pointless and should of been between WK and the person who told him about the NUM report, as she thought it was false which looking back probably is.. the rest of it has just been way over dramatised with no one really gaining anything apart from other parties who are very quiet watching us squabble between ourselves..

Or was that the intention ?

Well there is nothing about specific punters in my message box.  If there was such info, those pms would have been reported to admin by me. 

If you are looking for peace and harmony on a forum though, prepare to be disapointed.

[bushman]

I truly hope any material leaked won't find its way onto any threads, for anyone who has been less than careful with there lips, just for the record  I like many others would like to see harmony restored and self preservation put on the shelf, who if anyone has actually gained from this, punters no, WG's no, even the leak I would say no because of the risk of her ID being proved, so realistically this whole thing is pointless and should of been between WK and the person who told him about the NUM report, as she thought it was false which looking back probably is.. the rest of it has just been way over dramatised with no one really gaining anything apart from other parties who are very quiet watching us squabble between ourselves..

Or was that the intention ?

So you are happy that punters personal details and attributes (Some so ugly and repulsive they can only get sex if they pay for it) getting shared with a bunch of WG's. Who we know have some drug use issues to boot? 

[oldrockingchair]

So you are happy that punters personal details and attributes (Some so ugly and repulsive they can only get sex if they pay for it) getting shared with a bunch of WG's. Who we know have some drug use issues to boot? 

No I am not happy about it but what can be done about it at the end of the day, if it's happened once its a knocking bet it will happen again maybe a breakaway whatscrap group or two or 3 what I am saying is you cant stop it from happening.

Peace and harmony can be sought if everyone wants it, but some just want trouble and conflict.

[waynekerr600]

No I am not happy about it but what can be done about it at the end of the day,

Never book anybody involved with such activity. If they know it's going to cost them £££££££ it might be a deterrent to doing it in the future.