BBC news - possible ban on AdultWork / VIva....

[suckmyglock]

At least its England and Wales only tho !!! 



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[auldie63]

Sadly these sites have brought this on themselves by giving not one fuck about who or where from people are posting on their sites. They also give the same amount of care to the punters who use their sites, so long as the money rolls in. Thus we get the sites full of Sergi, written ads some of which will no doubt be trafficked girls, and others who have absolutely no intention of providing the services they advertise. When we complain about it we get totally rubber eared or accused of having some sort of ulterior motive for complaining.
When the ban on backpage etc. happened in the USA it was probably too late for them to smarten their act up but instead of maybe trying to they chose instead to ignore it.
It was only a matter of time before the hypocrites in Westminster jumped on that bandwagon and we can expect that sooner rather than later the gas factory at Hollyrood will do the same. After all the SNP must all be Wee Frees as they think enjoyment of any kind is the Devil's work, thanks Nickerless for the £4 on a bottle of Grouse ya bastard! 

[twaff]

Can't expect Holyrood to sit back and not take a free hit, they'll be all over this as well.
Personally AW would be a huge loss, something else will develop but with the help of UKP it does help sort out a lot the problems

[rogue5]

"Adultwork could not be reached for comment"

 

[Harrymetsally]

They banned the Pirate Bay but you can still access it through a VPN.  Worst scenario, it'll be a similar thing.

TBH most of the girls would go back to pre-Adultwork days - that would mean a website and email. 

If anything AW makes working much much safer for the girls.  Prostitution will always exist, so best make it as safe as possible.

[homer123]

Victoria derbyshire was talking to an escort about this yesterday. I can't post the episode link. but it's still on iplayer 04/07/18 episode.

[bervie]

Any ban (even just for England and Wales) would pretty much see the escorts taken off the UK site like what happened in the states. What a joke of a government we have:

[bobbydaz69]

“The MP is also calling for new rules to criminalise the payment of sex in any location...”, damn I thought that was called being married! 

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“President Trump signed the Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (Fosta) in April.”, good thing it wasn’t the Fight Internet Sex Trafficking Act.

[Hardpipe]

Jumped up old farts trying to spoil it for us all just because they keep getting caught out by the media😂😂😂

[Jd0039]

Don’t think for a
Minute this is about anything else than a bunch of self righteous morons promoting themselves into the spotlight. They’ve ignored all the evidence that says they’re plan will save our souls and stop the alleged trafficking. The research and information shows little or no evidence of trafficking yet they still push on. As Politicians aren’t they meant to listen to the will of the people instead it feels like they continue to impose their will on us

[Astarter]

Don’t think for a
Minute this is about anything else than a bunch of self righteous morons promoting themselves into the spotlight. They’ve ignored all the evidence that says they’re plan will save our souls and stop the alleged trafficking. The research and information shows little or no evidence of trafficking yet they still push on. As Politicians aren’t they meant to listen to the will of the people instead it feels like they continue to impose their will on us

Girls are being brought over not caged up and handcuffed from Romania\Bulgaria etc... but they are being trafficked. Don't know what research and evidence you are speaking of but trafficking of girls for prostitution is a problem even in Scotland.

Abolishing aw is not the answer as it punishes the good wg's and punters who use the service fair and proper. As far as girls who are trafficked and put on aw the only ones that should be punished are the pimps. The girls don't want to do it, I as a punter don't want to fuck some poor trafficked girl at all and it's only the pimps who gain from this sick shit.

[Jd0039]

The Home Office report they refer to in the debate last week listed a number of things. What they neatly omitted was the raids that had taken place as part of the initiative on trafficking resulted in no trafficking prosecutions. I agree there are girlsbe brought from afar and “forced” to work but I’d doubt the majority of girls on AW fall into that category. If I was in any doubt about a girls safety I’d walk as I think most genuine guys on here would. If AW goes so doe UKP I assume so they’d just drive it all underground.

Just to add apparently the discussion last week was only referring to England and Wales as NI have already outlawed paying for sex and in Scotland it’s apparently a devolved matter (?). So realistically how would it work in the UK to ban access to these websites only in England and Wales?

[Astarter]

The Home Office report they refer to in the debate last week listed a number of things. What they neatly omitted was the raids that had taken place as part of the initiative on trafficking resulted in no trafficking prosecutions. I agree there are girlsbe brought from afar and “forced” to work but I’d doubt the majority of girls on AW fall into that category. If I was in any doubt about a girls safety I’d walk as I think most genuine guys on here would. If AW goes so doe UKP I assume so they’d just drive it all underground.

Just to add apparently the discussion last week was only referring to England and Wales as NI have already outlawed paying for sex and in Scotland it’s apparently a devolved matter (?). So realistically how would it work in the UK to ban access to these websites only in England and Wales?

The fact they were unable to prosecute doesn't mean it wasn't happening. Being unable to a prove crime is being committed is pretty much par for the course in many of these cases.

I've had the misfortune to unintentionally meet a WG I believe was being trafficked via aw and reviewed on it. That single event opened up my eyes and changed the way I punt. I believe there are more trafficked wg's on aw than you are aware.

[BigTonto]

The fact they were unable to prosecute doesn't mean it wasn't happening. Being unable to a prove crime is being committed is pretty much par for the course in many of these cases.

I've had the misfortune to unintentionally meet a WG I believe was being trafficked via aw and reviewed on it. That single event opened up my eyes and changed the way I punt. I believe there are more trafficked wg's on aw than you are aware.

I'm swayed between them being trafficked and just there way of life.

Apart from WGs from uk, I've sort of accepted in my head that they do it so everybody can eat, Thais send to family's bk home and roms send it to Govanhell 

Either way everybody eats.

Uk prossies want bags, shoes and class As usually IMO, the rest aren't so materialistic. I doubt anybody other than the uk prossie sees any of there easy earned cash 

[Astarter]

I'm swayed between them being trafficked and just there way of life.

Apart from WGs from uk, I've sort of accepted in my head that they do it so everybody can eat, Thais send to family's bk home and roms send it to Govanhell 

Either way everybody eats.

Uk prossies want bags, shoes and class As usually IMO, the rest aren't so materialistic. I doubt anybody other than the uk prossie sees any of there easy earned cash 

Sway away mate there's two sides to everything.

I'm not referring to the girls who don't want to do it but do it to support their families. Almost every wg given the choice would rather not do it as much as a McDonalds workers would rather not serve burgers unpaid.

I'm happy to fuck the brains out of a WG willingly doing it for whatever reason but not the ones who are duped in to it and trafficked.

This is me being a dick now btw but it's "their way of life" not "there way of life".

[BigTonto]

Sway away mate there's two sides to everything.

I'm not referring to the girls who don't want to do it but do it to support their families. Almost every wg given the choice would rather not do it as much as a McDonalds workers would rather not serve burgers unpaid.

I'm happy to fuck the brains out of a WG willingly doing it for whatever reason but not the ones who are duped in to it and trafficked.

This is me being a dick now btw but it's "their way of life" not "there way of life".

How many McDonald's workers do you think there is selling burgers without getting paid '?

 Thought so 

At least with my opinion and view on the matter I can justify seeing hoors, what's your excuse? That they are trafficked but you don't care and go anyway, or you have the eye to spot 1 if she's not tied up in a cupboard.

I believe there is some out there but I have never seen 1 IMO, whereas you are the opposite with no way of knowing, just being a contradictive ' dick' 

[Squire Haggard]

At least its England and Wales only tho !!! 



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If they do get banned down south, you can bet that the SNP will  ''show their independence''  by ''bringing Scotland into line'' with England and Wales. 

[Astarter]

How many McDonald's workers do you think there is selling burgers without getting paid '?

 Thought so 

At least with my opinion and view on the matter I can justify seeing hoors, what's your excuse? That they are trafficked but you don't care and go anyway, or you have the eye to spot 1 if she's not tied up in a cupboard.

I believe there is some out there but I have never seen 1 IMO, whereas you are the opposite with no way of knowing, just being a contradictive ' dick' 

Omg pal you are not very smart. The thread you initiated (sorry if you don't understand that word) about better safety and the impression you give is the four eyed knuckle dragger born walking backwards (probably attend orange walks). I'm not even getting in to it with you, enough said from my part towards you.

[webpunter]

Thought there is supposed to be new legislation re accessing porn sites.  PornH & the rest seem to be working fine

The amount of porn / escort sites accessed by those at Westminster is huge so can't see this getting much support

The Govt could make a start by banning sites for benders & paedos.  That would be even more unpopular 'in house'.  There would be uproar 

Also on the list is taking down ISIS / ISIL stuff

I agree with them trying to stamp out trafficking & underage sex

I happen to think that UKP does a pretty good job at weeding out Sergei.  The 'intel' generated is significant.  Having some twat in Govt who couldn't find their back pocket with both hands & a map ain't gonna be very effective

I can't see the world's oldest profession dying out just yet

[BigTonto]

Omg pal you are not very smart. The thread you initiated (sorry if you don't understand that word) about better safety and the impression you give is the four eyed knuckle dragger born walking backwards (probably attend orange walks). I'm not even getting in to it with you, enough said from my part towards you.

Yes we know your not u dick, you've been clamped and have turned the thread into a character assassination.

Why not just dry your eyes that somebody disagrees.

'There or  their' did I confuse your little head? Orange walks etc? It's no a fucking old firm site, your still seething over the walk yourself by sound of it u little bitter bunnet.

Your acting like a wee boy that can't be told off or gave an opinion.

Put your wee head down your tired 

[Squire Haggard]

Sadly these sites have brought this on themselves by giving not one fuck about who or where from people are posting on their sites. They also give the same amount of care to the punters who use their sites, so long as the money rolls in. Thus we get the sites full of Sergi, written ads some of which will no doubt be trafficked girls, and others who have absolutely no intention of providing the services they advertise. When we complain about it we get totally rubber eared or accused of having some sort of ulterior motive for complaining.
When the ban on backpage etc. happened in the USA it was probably too late for them to smarten their act up but instead of maybe trying to they chose instead to ignore it.
It was only a matter of time before the hypocrites in Westminster jumped on that bandwagon and we can expect that sooner rather than later the gas factory at Hollyrood will do the same. After all the SNP must all be Wee Frees as they think enjoyment of any kind is the Devil's work, thanks Nickerless for the £4 on a bottle of Grouse ya bastard! 

Get round Krankie's price rise by buying the bigger 1 litre bottle.

The 70cl one is 'rolled back' from £15.50 to £14 in Asda up here, but in Asda Leeds its £12.50.

The 1 litre bottle is £21.50 in both, so drink more and wave two fingers at Krankie. 

PS. I've just checked and the smaller bottle is better value.  No way out, Krankie has got you. 

[S.X. MacHine]

If they do get banned down south, you can bet that the SNP will  ''show their independence''  by ''bringing Scotland into line'' with England and Wales. 

Indeed, Squire. Eruditely put.

[Squire Haggard]

Indeed, Squire. Eruditely put.

 

[rathbone]

TBH most of the girls would go back to pre-Adultwork days - that would mean a website and email. 

I wasn't active in pre-AW days, but that makes sense - presumably (hopefully) independents with their own website wouldn't fall foul of a ban on AW/ Vivastreet.

If anything AW makes working much much safer for the girls.  Prostitution will always exist, so best make it as safe as possible.

+1.  Surely AW makes it easier for the authorities to identify potential trafficking because they can scan a regular website, rather than trade being driven underground onto the dark web?

[auldie63]

Bring back the 'Sport'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[webpunter]

With their 'ads' section

Bring back the 'Sport'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[Felix69]

Just like in Thailand, the preferred medium of contact between the WG's and the punters is Tinder, there are a number of active WG's already making full use of these so called dating apps, I've punted here in the UK both on Tinder and POF with no problems.

[webpunter]

AAMOI how easy is it to spot the WGs on Tinder & POF ?  Might have to check these out

Just like in Thailand, the preferred medium of contact between the WG's and the punters is Tinder, there are a number of active WG's already making full use of these so called dating apps, I've punted here in the UK both on Tinder and POF with no problems.

[Felix69]

It is usually subtly written into their profile, especially on POF, it will normally say message me on an email address.

Here is a couple of examples.

POF and Tinder.



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[Felix69]

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[webpunter]

Thanks for the examples.  Now i see what you mean about being able to spot em - physical therapy.  Will have a hunt round

[Alanroy]

At least AW has real girls, who actually exist. Vivastreet is full of shite so wouldn't be a real loss, used it to arrange last punt, which if you look at my reviews, didn't go too well....

Speaking of, one WG advertising on Vivastreet in Aberdeen has an uncanny resemblance to pornstar Raven Riley, dont you think?!?

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Maybe time to use POF / tinder instead as above!