Penny Trayshun (AKA Transensual) (TS review) - Manchester

[Duel]

This is a neutral review but it's borderline negative.

I first discovered Penny a good 10-15 years ago back when I was intrigued by trans but both too scared and too poor to go and see one. I was spellbound by her (then) detailed explanation as to how she is a specialist in breaking guys in and how most others don't know what they're doing and so the guy doesn't have a mind-blowing experience. Plus, she looked very hot in her pics. Slim and with a kind of beehivey hair do.

Fast forward to 2016 and, after many positive reviews, I finally decide to take the plunge. When she answered the door I knew I was in trouble. The girl standing in front of me didn't so much look like Penny but looked like she ate Penny. She was big. And I'm not talking about inside her knickers. When I rechecked her profile after our session I could see how some of her pics were the same from when I first saw her and some were taken from flattering angles to hide the chub.

It's not that I don't appreciate curvy women, I do, it's just that on a woman the fat is distributed over her hips and arse so she still maintains a womanly figure but on a man (and Penny is a TV not a TS - hence she is a man) the fat just goes on the gut. Like a trucker. So here was this 5' 10-ish person with a wider chest than me (and I'm 42") a belly Big Daddy would be proud of and, in comparison, skinny legs.

The other glaring problem was that she is a lot older than she made out and several of her pics were still from a decade earlier. She's also not as feminine as her pics made out. Very thick and cakey foundation, too. She was pleasant enough if going through the motions and not really interested. We went into a tastefully-decorated bedroom, I gave her £100 that I was immediately regretting, and we got down to it.

Now, Penny advertised at the time that she has real boobs but what she failed to mention is that this is because she probably likes to consume her bodyweight in pizza and the occasional small child. She had moobs, not boobs, and whilst she was quick to pull them out of her basque/corset I was horrified to be gazing at man nipples. And then I was distraught when she  pushed my head down, wanting me to suck her man nipples.

We kiss and fondle and I wonder what I'll say in my acceptance speech for winning Best Performance by a Male Actor but beyond light groping she wasn't doing anything or showing interest. Considering she prized herself on being a champion top, I found her indifference confusing. I expected her to be taking the lead, showing me how horny she was, teasing me with hints of upcoming anal ecstasy. I played with her averagely-endowed cock and after several more minutes of stasis, asked her to fuck me. Ding, ding! Here comes the main attraction!

She duly did but no special technique to break guys in, no magic touch, no spellbinding, life-changing experience like she described in her profile. She does me doggy and then on my back, both of which were 'okay' but not 'good'. Either out of boredom or because she lost her erection, she gets off and sits on the bed and instructs me to wank off, saying it turns her on. I did, she fake-cooed throughout, I squeezed one out, and that was that. £100 (a month's disposable income!) for a date with a gorgeous feminine top yet having experienced the biggest Trade Descriptions Act breach of the modern era.

This review is almost a negative because of the misrepresentation of her photos, description and of calling herself a TS.
However she gets a neutral because she was pleasant and did as requested.

In conclusion:
Either she was really good back in the day or her rep was built on a naive customer-base at a time when the Manchester trans-escort scene was just a handful of WG.

[Goldfinch]

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[Tony4447]

I saw her back in the day, probably 12-14 years ago and she was sh*te then, she disappeared and I didn’t realise she was back on the scene..........from what you say it sounds like a negative to me.

[Brazilian Martian]

Sounds like a scene out of the crying game

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[Brazilian Martian]

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[Sinz]

Looks like the WG has dropped a Penny with his/her silly threats

[NigelF]

Cheers for the review. It's detailed, helpful and well balanced. I'm looking forward to your negative review/s.

[James999]

He's not happy about this review 

[markmark13]

I saw him/her about 10 years ago in a house in Whalley Range. Pretty similar to the review above. Very clearly a bloke in a dress, and quite a way off from the photos. Friendly enough service, although I was only just starting out on my exploration back then, so it was just me giving him/her a wank and he/she sucking me until CIM.

[Duel]

Also the 'luxury apartment' is an outrageous claim.

[Tony4447]

There are another couple I saw about 12-14 years ago -

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Same experience as I had with Penny Trayshun, lack lustre and no tits, total waste of money.

Not been with a TS for a few years but I think there is much better available nowadays.
Saw Fritzie about 5 years ago, had a cracking time, good tits and cock but I think she is a bit addicted to surgery and has lost her looks.
There was a post op, Carresa, she’s disappeared, wasn’t a bad fuck, and there use to be a post op in Stockport that I saw several times, had a couple of really good punts with her, but she became a Dom and moved over to Thailand, I think she had a relationship with the owner of birthplace

I never did any reviews as I only joined ukp 2 years ago and these meetings are well in the past.

[Duel]

Well this is freaky because those are my two negatives!

[Tony4447]

Well this is freaky because those are my two negatives!

Well get the reviews posted!!...........as I said it years since I saw them, so my review (if I can remember) won’t be much use.

[Donbe]

That's one knocked off the list, cheers pal

[Shemalefritzie]

I’ve just joined this page as jaquie jones just woke me up to inform me that  both penny and Shaffire both think that apparently I made this review which is utter rubbish
If there are admin on here please investigate this as all ip addresses are saved or even better whoever wrote it please contact penny yourself as I refuse to get dragged into any petty squabbles over such things as bad reviews we all get them from time to time it’s perfectly normal
But nothing to do with me whatsoever
Can you resolve this immediately please

[Duel]

My review is backed up by at least two other punters so unless you've multiple accounts (which admin can check) then it's clearly not you. At least I posted mine as neutral whilst it was the others who said theirs were negative. So even if you did write my review (you didn't) then yours was the kindest of the lot.

[Shemalefritzie]

Could you please just txt or call her and prove it’s not me Hun it’s csused huge dramas and we are a close not community and this is really upsetting me and her
If you stand by your review that’s your choice just please be man enough to let her know who it is many thanks

[OldAdmin]

please be man enough to let her know who it is many thanks

Sounds like a trap to get him to expose his identity so "she" can take revenge on him, at the moment she doesn't know who it is.

[Shemalefritzie]

I respect that may I offer a suggestion and you call her from witheld and describe what she wore or what her room looks like it would protect your identity and prove my innocence as I’ve never been in her apartment

[Shemalefritzie]

Admin
Could you please check IP addresses and post your findings as this will clear it up

[Shemalefritzie]

Well this is freaky because those are my two negatives!

I’d like to contradict the surgery comment I’ve only had my boobs done and a brow lift compare pictures from when I started and now no facial difference whatsoever
I’m convinced these reviews are fake probably by a jealous cross dresser who thinks by ruining the reputation of the best girls in the area she would get more work
Maybe admin should ask for proof of meeting ie screenshot sent privately to admin with the arranged booking on it all discreet of course as if you want to run a proper site these fake reviews will ruin it for all concerned I’m perfectly happy to show myself on cam to prove my face is just the same as it always wsd

[James999]

jaquie jones just woke me up to inform me that  both penny and Shaffire both think that apparently I made this review

Sounds like Tranny wars 

[Romeo Sensini]

Drama Queens.

IGMC

[NigelF]

Drama Queens.

IGMC

  +100

[MrMog]

Well, this was a better read than I imagined possible. Handbags at dawn or what?

[MrMog]

OK after a little bit of reading I think our new resident transexual expert reviewer is not all he/she seems and Shafire may actually have a point and have spotted what I have also noticed. The reviews seem to favour certain ones in an attempt to cause a bit of a rift between the *girls.

Either way, it is highly amusing to think of them all chucking lippy at each other so well done at least for giving me some quality entertainment haha.

I was going to use my admiral akbar gif of him say its a Trap but tbh the word Trap in this instance would probably only escalate things.

Trans War 2018

[NigelF]

OK after a little bit of reading I think our new resident transexual expert reviewer is not all he/she seems and Shafire may actually have a point and have spotted what I have also noticed. The reviews seem to favour certain ones in an attempt to cause a bit of a rift between the *girls.

I'm not sure but I too share these concerns. You're also not the only member to point that out, e.g.

So the girl had a lot of glowing reviews on a website that can no longer be seen?

A high regard came from a ‘overwhelming’ amount of satisfied customers on a website that again cannot be seen.

And you think it out of order that you are questioned about it? Thats overlooking the fact that these 3 TS are all friends on the scene.

You seem to come across as some one who doesn’t like to be judged but are happy to judge other at the drop of a hat!

Hence why you and your reviews currently have no credit on here!!

Duel's negative and neutral reviews seem very objective but also very harsh compared to his positives which are definitely very fluffy. He does however at least give Penny "just" a neutral although it reads like a negative (and not disimilar to his other negatives) so perhaps the rating is just a "diversionary tactic" (he's already brought it up in response to Fritzie).

Penny's accusation/suspicion in her post report (https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?msg=1990958) does seem to match that of Fritzie's claim (assuming it is actually her):

I’ve just joined this page as jaquie jones just woke me up to inform me that  both penny and Shaffire both think that apparently I made this review which is utter rubbish
If there are admin on here please investigate this as all ip addresses are saved or even better whoever wrote it please contact penny yourself as I refuse to get dragged into any petty squabbles over such things as bad reviews we all get them from time to time it’s perfectly normal
But nothing to do with me whatsoever
Can you resolve this immediately please

However, both of them have clear reason to dispute the reviews and I'm sure they're not above lying (and I presume they're also mates). Although perhaps they do have genuine suspicions but are just wrong about them. Asking the reviewer to contact Penny directly is also rather suspicious as Admin rightly points out:

Sounds like a trap to get him to expose his identity so "she" can take revenge on him, at the moment she doesn't know who it is.

Also, I don't see how they could prove it was the malicious person they think it is anyway. It sounds like a convenient excuse for the bad reviews.

Duel also seems to know an awful lot about being Trans (which suggests he could be a TS himself):

I said several years, not seven, and they can actually keep on growing for many years after that. I had a TS girlfriend who was a C cup when I met her (after 5 years development) and was an E cup when I met her a few years after we split. I learnt a ton about hormones in my time with her and she was following a regime that a small number of switched-on doctors have been fighting to get their methodology accepted by the medical establishment.

It takes about 3-6 months when on injections (not prescribed over here) to get noticeable A cups and longer still to get lesser results if on tablets and patches (which are prescribed over here). There's a big difference between A (or even a weeny B) and proper, developed B and C+ cups, as per real women.

She may well be wearing a wig, as do others, but you're making calls about her status and agenda without valid reason.

However he does explain that he used to have a "TS girlfriend" so that could be a valid reason why he knows so much (although also a good "cover story").

Having said all that, these posts all support his reviews/also reflect his experiences:

I saw her back in the day, probably 12-14 years ago and she was sh*te then, she disappeared and I didn’t realise she was back on the scene..........from what you say it sounds like a negative to me.

I saw him/her about 10 years ago in a house in Whalley Range. Pretty similar to the review above. Very clearly a bloke in a dress, and quite a way off from the photos. Friendly enough service, although I was only just starting out on my exploration back then, so it was just me giving him/her a wank and he/she sucking me until CIM.

There are another couple I saw about 12-14 years ago -

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Same experience as I had with Penny Trayshun, lack lustre and no tits, total waste of money.

Not been with a TS for a few years but I think there is much better available nowadays.
Saw Fritzie about 5 years ago, had a cracking time, good tits and cock but I think she is a bit addicted to surgery and has lost her looks.
There was a post op, Carresa, she’s disappeared, wasn’t a bad fuck, and there use to be a post op in Stockport that I saw several times, had a couple of really good punts with her, but she became a Dom and moved over to Thailand, I think she had a relationship with the owner of birthplace

I never did any reviews as I only joined ukp 2 years ago and these meetings are well in the past.

And Duel replies:

Well this is freaky because those are my two negatives!

After Duel posts his negative reviews, Tony4447 posts some comments in both of them supporting/reflecting Duel's reviews/experiences.

So it does seem that his neutral and negative reviews are accurate. On balance, unless there is some "mass conspiracy" (which seems unlikely), I doubt Duel isn't a genuine punter. As I've previously said, I do hope he posts some more reviews as I think his contributions have mostly been mostly helpful so far (although his positives are too fluffy and seem hard to rely on).

[Tony4447]

I'm not sure but I too share these concerns. You're also not the only member to point that out, e.g.
Duel's negative and neutral reviews seem very objective but also very harsh compared to his positives which are definitely very fluffy. He does however at least give Penny "just" a neutral although it reads like a negative (and not disimilar to his other negatives) so perhaps the rating is just a "diversionary tactic" (he's already brought it up in response to Fritzie).

Penny's accusation/suspicion in her post report (https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?msg=1990958) does seem to match that of Fritzie's claim (assuming it is actually her):
However, both of them have clear reason to dispute the reviews and I'm sure they're not above lying (and I presume they're also mates). Although perhaps they do have genuine suspicions but are just wrong about them. Asking the reviewer to contact Penny directly is also rather suspicious as Admin rightly points out:
Also, I don't see how they could prove it was the malicious person they think it is anyway. It sounds like a convenient excuse for the bad reviews.

Duel also seems to know an awful lot about being Trans (which suggests he could be a TS himself):
However he does explain that he used to have a "TS girlfriend" so that could be a valid reason why he knows so much (although also a good "cover story").

Having said all that, these posts all support his reviews/also reflect his experiences:
And Duel replies:
After Duel posts his negative reviews, Tony4447 posts some comments in both of them supporting/reflecting Duel's reviews/experiences.

So it does seem that his neutral and negative reviews are accurate. On balance, unless there is some "mass conspiracy" (which seems unlikely), I doubt Duel isn't a genuine punter. As I've previously said, I do hope he posts some more reviews as I think his contributions have mostly been mostly helpful so far (although his positives are too fluffy and seem hard to rely on).

NigelF I would like to point out that my comments on Darlah and SashaPaige were made PRIOR (check date and time) to Duel putting up his neg reviews, I also hasten to add that my comments on them are from when I saw them many, many years ago.............they may offer a better service now or there again a worse service.
Darlah, SashaPaige, Pennytrayshun really are just blokes in frocks, and I believe there is probably better out there nowadays.
I had concerns about Duel as 3x quick positive reviews did ring alarm bells with me and as you will see on the forum I even challenged him on the quick reviews.........but I have to admit a lot of what he has said on the above is certainly what I experienced a long time ago.

Me, it’s been a few years but next time I want a TS it will be one of the foreigners as they certainly look a lot more convincing.

[NigelF]

NigelF I would like to point out that my comments on Darlah and SashaPaige were made PRIOR (check date and time) to Duel putting up his neg reviews, I also hasten to add that my comments on them are from when I saw them many, many years ago.............they may offer a better service now or there again a worse service.
Darlah, SashaPaige, Pennytrayshun really are just blokes in frocks, and I believe there is probably better out there nowadays.
I had concerns about Duel as 3x quick positive reviews did ring alarm bells with me and as you will see on the forum I even challenged him on the quick reviews.........but I have to admit a lot of what he has said on the above is certainly what I experienced a long time ago.

Me........next time I want a TS it will be one of the foreigners

Yes, that's a good point, I wasn't very clear about that.

I didn't actually notice that you challenged him on his positives but I see that's also true so thanks for pointing that out and cheers for your contributions.

[Duel]

Okay guys, let me point out some clarity and logic. (BTW I can't see Penny's or Shaffire's accusations).


1) From what I can make from the replies, Fritzie, Shaffire and Penny are friends and so this hullabaloo is a convenient diversion for their friend who's received a non-positive review.


2) Though borderline, my review for Penny was neutral and I think my reasons justify it. Had I wanted to torpedo a competing WG or friendship the review would be negative and for anyone thinking 'that's what a guilty person would do as a negative review would be too obvious' I'll remind you of what I said a day before this review and which was swiftly shot down.

So what do you want from me? 'Cause from my view I can't win.

3. I started with positive reviews and getting grief for it yet had I started with negative reviews then that would be seen as a competing escort trying to sabotage the competition.

3)

Shafire may actually have a point and have spotted what I have also noticed. The reviews seem to favour certain ones in an attempt to cause a bit of a rift between the *girls.

I only posted my neutral and negative reviews upon request to satisfy the doubters of my positive reviews so how can I be at fault when I'm giving you what was asked for? Don't push for neutral/negative reviews and we're not in this situ now. You can see why I said I can't win: I don't give negatives – it's proof I've an agenda, I do give negatives – it's proof I've an agenda.

As for wanting to cause tension between friends, I'd first have to know they're friends. Then I'd need a reason to want to cause tension. Then I'd need to be sure a positive review for one (Shaffire) and a neutral for another (Penny) would cause friction and lastly, I'd have to know they'd cause grief for a third (Fritzie) and that's a stretch even by Scooby Doo standards.


4) Re: Fritzie's claim I'm a WG seeking to benefit an upsurge in business by trashing the best girls:
I already stated that the most respected girls are Kimber Kelly, Mikayla, Fritzie, Shaffire and Tamzin so how does writing such overtly-positive reviews that they raised suspicions for Shaffire and Mikayla class as trashing? Does anyone really believe that Darlah and Sasha, my negative reviews, are amongst the best? And does anyone really think that one neutral review of one of the longest-serving escorts is going to damage her business?


5) Nigel, you quote and bold Crapy's post as reason to be suspicious - 'And you think it out of order that you are questioned about it? Thats overlooking the fact that these 3 TS are all friends on the scene.' – but that comment was written a day earlier and in response to my 3 positive reviews: Shaffire, Sabrina and Mikayla. And how does those 3 being friends tie in with Shaffire, Fritzie and Penny being friends or me benefitting from causing an argument?


6)

Duel's negative and neutral reviews seem very objective but also very harsh compared to his positives which are definitely very fluffy. He does however at least give Penny "just" a neutral although it reads like a negative (and not disimilar to his other negatives) 

Overly harsh and overly praising indicates consistency, no? I also hope you noticed the large doses of humour in each of the negative/neutral reviews which lighten the tone considerably and as you pointed out, my criticisms of Alpha, Darlah and Penny were backed up by others.


7)

However, both of them have clear reason to dispute the reviews

How can there be clear reason to doubt my review when other guys agree?


8)

Duel also seems to know an awful lot about being Trans (which suggests he could be a TS himself)

True but when you're into trans it's not a stretch to know a few things about HRT, regardless of having a trans gf or not.


That's that. In closing I'd like to thank Nigel for concluding my neutral and negative reviews are accurate and all my contributions have  been helpful. Criticism about fluffiness are accepted ad if I could edit those initial reviews I would.

[Donbe]

Penny, Shaffire, Mikayla, Friztie and Raven are all friends.

The likelihood all this shit is some kind of diva strop by some of them.

[Duel]

I had concerns about Duel as 3x quick positive reviews did ring alarm bells with me and as you will see on the forum I even challenged him on the quick reviews.........but I have to admit a lot of what he has said on the above is certainly what I experienced a long time ago.

Cheers.

Penny, Shaffire, Mikayla, Friztie and Raven are all friends.

The likelihood all this shit is some kind of diva strop by some of them.

Diva strops, so female. The 'it's a guy in a dress' brigade have been undone lol.

[MrMog]

I would not fuck any of them, if you are going to go after a shemale then at least go after ones that don't look like blokes in wigs and bad makeup.

You might get a good punt then.

At least Tamzin and Kimber put some effort into looking female.

[scutty brown]

So when is the duel on Canal Street?
Flying handbags filled with bricks at dawn?

[chrishornx]

Okay guys, let me point out some clarity and logic.

. Had I wanted to torpedo a competing WG or friendship the review would be negative .

competing with who? You?

Puzzling

[markmark13]

Just to add to the fun, cos I'm enjoying this thread so much. To further confirm the reviews of Penny Trayshun, here's something I posted on another site (the Manchester one that usually goes by 3 initials) back in 2014.

"Don't see Penny Trayshun. Her pics are years old! I saw her a couple of years ago and she really was just like the fat bloke in drag stereotype. 

Don't. Just don"t."

Didn't cause any drama like on here!

[NigelF]

5) Nigel, you quote and bold Crapy's post as reason to be suspicious - 'And you think it out of order that you are questioned about it? Thats overlooking the fact that these 3 TS are all friends on the scene.' – but that comment was written a day earlier and in response to my 3 positive reviews: Shaffire, Sabrina and Mikayla. And how does those 3 being friends tie in with Shaffire, Fritzie and Penny being friends or me benefitting from causing an argument?

I didn't actually realise that there was "friendship overlap" (i.e. Shaffire). Nonetheless I think the main accusation would be that you are one of your positives (trying to drum up business) and you posted the neutral and negatives to bash the competition (and hopefully indirectly drum up business). You would have posted the other positives to help your friends and preemptively deflect accusations of being a specific WG. As a secondary reason you may also have done it in spite or to cause to trouble because, well, the mental state of the average TS is often worse than the average woman. Or just because you find it funny.

6) Overly harsh and overly praising indicates consistency, no? I also hope you noticed the large doses of humour in each of the negative/neutral reviews which lighten the tone considerably and as you pointed out, my criticisms of Alpha, Darlah and Penny were backed up by others.

Yes, I did notice those things. I wouldn't say overly harsh and overly praising (i.e. somewhat extreme) is the most common form of consistency (usually either everything has too much of a positive slant or everything has too much of a negative slant although actually I don't think I've ever come across someone "too negative" who wasn't either a rival prossie, pimp or a malicious punter - by that I mean I am unaware of any genuine punter on this site who I would describe as "too negative" or "too harsh") but some punters are like you, so yes I pretty much agree.

7) How can there be clear reason to doubt my review when other guys agree?

No, I was only referring to the fact that Fritzie and Penny have clear reason (self interest) to cast doubt on their reviews. Funnily enough, I should have been more clear.

8) True but when you're into trans it's not a stretch to know a few things about HRT, regardless of having a trans gf or not.

Yes, that is true and a few minutes Googling is probably all it would take.

Anyway, I mostly agree with everything else you said. As I said previously, on balance, I do think you're a genuine punter and I certainly think your negative and neutral reviews are accurate (as others have backed them up). I also agree with your overall rating of Mikayla as a positive (as I've seen her myself).

[Tony4447]

I think we are being a bit unjust here to Pennytrayshun as this is a review thread on him (I’m not a white knight).

As far as I’m concerned Penny, SashaPaige and Darlah are p*ss poor, they are all blokes in drag, none of them are convincing and they all offered a very poor service.
What I will say in support of Penny is that he was very clean, as in shower facilities, mouth wash etc. Darlah’s place was filthy, and I should have immediately walked.

As I said previously I had a good time with Fritzie, very professional service but for me has now lost her looks so I wont be going there again.

All the above is from several years ago, not recent experience.

[MrMog]

There are some Trans that look female, Camilla Matolli and Yamileth, Tamzin etc...

This lot look butcher than butch dingle. If fucking a bloke in a dress or a semi-anorexic with big hair and oversized lips is your thing then fair play but to go visit what is obviously a bloke in drag and then complain about the service and how they look is a bit of a piss take in my opinion, its a fucking bloke in a fancy frock, the photos of them show that clearly. Each to their own though.

I know I wouldn't consider any of them. I am still saying this is a bit of a setup though, far too odd for someone to come out of the woodwork with so many reviews of what are essentially the same flock of shemales.

On another note as most shemales seem to float around the UK, could this place have a dedicated forum for TS posts? Just an idea.

[Iluvpussy22]

This is fishy.

I have been watching this carefully, and the other posts of a similar subject. I dont believe that the poster is what he says that he is. Its either a TS WG trying to fuck over the competition so she can gain work or a pimp, manager, boyfriend etc being a white knight for his girlfriend.

Its very suspricious. If the poster is what he says he is, then my apologiese for my remark. I would however say that if he believes what he is saying, then speak to them and have it out with them. No need for the cloak and dagger stuff, if you didnt like them then you aint gonna go back.

I am not finding this post funny or informative, it just strikes me as a bit nasty.

[MrMog]

Sorry but if he is legit then he should not be apologising or chatting through his review with them, they should accept not everyone is happy with their services and have a right to say so. When we start asking punters to talk about reasons for bad reviews with WGs then it sends us down a murky path.

[Iluvpussy22]

And what murky path is this.

If I am going to leave a negative on here I would be more than happy to tell the girl why I am not happy. If I go out and have a bad meal,,I send my food back and say what was wrong with it. If I go to the barber and have a bad shave or haircut I will tell the barber.

If its a neutral, a so so meal, a so so haircut etc I just wouldnt go back and find something better.

Its obvious that there has been so much trouble over this, maybe its been done on purpose or just a matter of coincidence, there is more to this than meets the eye.

[MrMog]

The murky path of every WG coming on here making demands that every punter who leaves a bad review get in contact with them to *discuss their meet.

If you got to the barber shop or a meal then you are doing that in a public place, identifying yourself to a WG when giving a bad review opens up a whole hornet's nest.

[Iluvpussy22]

I have been punting for the past 28 years. I started with massage parlours from the sport to now using the net.

As a regular punter meeting about 12 a year (payday) some I have met 3 or 4 times. As you would imagine I have met a lot, well over one hundred. I have only had 3 bad ones. I have said "no" when they have opened the door and walked away and I said once "I want my money back" at the end (italian girl in wigan) cos she ripped my off.

I agree with the basics. Negatives when the girl has scammed, run off with the money, guys turning up etc, but how a girl looks is a matter of taste and opinion. If a girl says she is 5ft 8, size 8 with long blonde hair and you turn up and shes 5ft1, size 18 with a skinhead, I would say and be angry at her wasting my time. I would then be more than happy to come in here and slate her.

If her home was smelly and dirty, I would again fuck off and tell her, I have never ever had this btw but then again maybe my experience means that I am able to spot them, never say never though. Again I am happy for her to know why, what I thought and why I left and that I have left her a negative on here.

An escort on here who doesnt know who it is, when it happened and even with the doubt of it ever happening I find puzzling. Maybe the client is smelly, grossly over weight, disrespectful and its taken her every bit of strength to do the deed and its been a major struggle to do it with a smile. That goes with the job, thats what they have signed up for but body language can be a major giveaway and maybe the poor girl is just a poor actress.

I just think you should stand up and be counted and even give them an opportunity to reply. Maybe it was a bad day, maybe shes been ill, maybe shes just had an abusive client, maybe she would apologiese for the bad service and offer you a freebie.

I dont like the people who hide behind a keyboard, this is how bullys work, this is how game players work. If you have something to say, then fucking well say it, but stand by what you have said and dont hide.

[Duel]

competing with who? You?

According to Fritzie, me.

I think the main accusation would be that you are one of your positives (trying to drum up business) and you posted the neutral and negatives to bash the competition (and hopefully indirectly drum up business). You would have posted the other positives to help your friends and preemptively deflect accusations of being a specific WG.

I  hear you it's just that that hypothesis requires retconning my entire timeline here. Remember, I only posted my non-positive reviews in response to the calls to do because my positives were perceived to be a WG trying to drum up business.

Another thing is that my threads would be off the first page and forgotten about had the positive reviews not been derailed by inane arguments about anything but the review or WG in question, such as whether a girl is highly-rated on HA, is a part-time CD in a wig, or accusing of foul play simply because of a neutral rating.

The girls I rate neutral/negative have been around for donkeys so if they're any good then they'll have tons of positive reviews to make mine meaningless and most of all: 1) my feedback is consistent with others opinion; 2) this only kicked off with a neutral review of Penny not a negative and so is a strange way to drum up business.

What I will say in support of Penny is that he was very clean, as in shower facilities, mouth wash etc. Darlah’s place was filthy, and I should have immediately walked.

As I said previously I had a good time with Fritzie

You hit the nail on the head with Penny and that is why I rated her neutral. My issue was the misrepresentation in her advert.


[quote author=MrMog
but to go visit what is obviously a bloke in drag and then complain about the service and how they look is a bit of a piss take in my opinion, its a fucking bloke in a fancy frock, the photos of them show that clearly. Each to their own though.[/quote]
Being a bloke in a dress has nothing to do with it. They're offering a professional service and charging a professional price so customers have a right to expect professionalism and decent standards. You don't keep your customers waiting for over 30 minutes, you make sure you're ready for the agreed time, you don't operate out of a cesspit, and you expect them to offer the ir promise of excellent service they lured you in with.

I am still saying this is a bit of a setup though, far too odd for someone to come out of the woodwork with so many reviews of what are essentially the same flock of shemales.

HA shut down their escort section overnight, members mentioned this place, I came here. It's that simple.

Same flock? Mikayla and Shaffire are part of the elite of 5 or 6 girls that HA raved about and Penny was one of the originals and a 'name' so it makes sense for me to have visited them. Sasha and Darlah were never mentioned by anyone.

[Duel]

I dont believe that the poster is what he says that he is. Its either a TS WG trying to fuck over the competition.

Its very suspricious. If the poster is what he says he is, then my apologiese for my remark. I would however say that if he believes what he is saying, then speak to them and have it out with them. No need for the cloak and dagger stuff, if you didnt like them then you aint gonna go back.

Don't insist I'm fishy and fucking people over and then apologise. And what's so nasty about a neutral review? Only someone with a vested interest would say that.

I can't believe you seriously think that not calling up a WG to explain a review is cloak and dagger and that I have a duty to do so. Having it out with them is not going to achieve anything. Even if they could remember the encounters from ages ago they're not going to agree and, even worse, it can result in the punter being blacklisted if the WG spreads negative feedback to other WG as revenge.

Sorry but if he is legit then he should not be apologising or chatting through his review with them, they should accept not everyone is happy with their services and have a right to say so. When we start asking punters to talk about reasons for bad reviews with WGs then it sends us down a murky path.

This!

If I am going to leave a negative on here I would be more than happy to tell the girl why I am not happy. If its a neutral, a so so meal, a so so haircut etc I just wouldnt go back and find something better.

Except this is a  review section. Where people, uh, leave reviews. Like they do for restaurants and barbers.

I am happy for her to know why, what I thought and why I left and that I have left her a negative on here.

And my reviews explain why I left neutral, negative and positive reviews.

dont like the people who hide behind a keyboard, this is how bullys work

No, it's how the internet works.

[Duel]

Just noticed ILuvPussy22 has been banned so here ends this hoo-ha. And to think, irrespective of what was said in the review or how people perceive it, it was only a neutral. The backlash was totally over the top and had to be started by the WG or her friends.

[bigthickdick]

Maybe the client is smelly, grossly over weight, disrespectful and its taken her every bit of strength to do the deed and its been a major struggle to do it with a smile. That goes with the job, thats what they have signed up for but body language can be a major giveaway and maybe the poor girl is just a poor actress.

I just think you should stand up and be counted and even give them an opportunity to reply. Maybe it was a bad day, maybe shes been ill, maybe shes just had an abusive client, maybe she would apologiese for the bad service and offer you a freebie.

I dont like the people who hide behind a keyboard, this is how bullys work, this is how game players work. If you have something to say, then fucking well say it, but stand by what you have said and dont hide.

What a load of crap. When you book a girl and turn up at her place if the one behind the door doesn't appeal you can walk. Now guess what. When she opens the door for you if she thinks that you are so fat/ugly/smelly/old/young/etc. that she couldn't even pretend enjoying it and it would effect the service she also has the right to send you away. By not doing that she accepts that she has to provide a service to that fat/ugly/smelly/old/young/etc. client and the money of that client won't be any different to other clients money therefore the service she provides shouldn't be different either.

[bigthickdick]

Me myself think that Duel is a genuine punter. Everything he said makes sence, it all adds up and his reviews and ratings are backed up by other members.

If he had joined and started posting reviews of female WGs nobody would've pulled him after 3 positives 2 negatives and 1 neutral.

[MrMog]

Ok so if he is a real punter then fair enough, I still can’t believe a prossy came on here asking him to out himself by getting in touch with penny to explain himself.

Fuck to them, this place exists to allow punters to discuss and rate experiences with WGs, it’s not for hormonal divas in frocks to come on here demanding punters explain why they gave them a bad review.

If you can’t  handle a bad review or the fact someone thought your service was shit then it’s time to man up and ask yourself if you’re service is good enough. I ain’t against trans people, I just think that some in Manchester are borderline drag acts rather than actual shemales or TS.

I put this lot in that category.