Are girls pricing themselves out of the market ?

[Will2k]

I don't think anyone would have much problem with small "inflation" based increases although seen as no one seems to deal in £5 that would probably be a minimum increase of £10, I suppose it might depend a lot on the part of the country you are in, but here in the north west I don't think wages are increasing much, certainly not at the same rates as WG fees, In recent years there has certainly been a big change in the amount (on AW) who were charging around £100-120 and are now around £150, I always tend to look at the "British" profiles and do wonder if there has become some sort of snobbishness (is that a word) with the British girls maybe thinking if the rip off Roms are charging £100 well I'm worth more than that.
I'd like to find another regular last one was £120 outcall (only local) but I can't see it happening at similar rates, when ex parlour girls are £150 (there is a good chance that it will be a parlour "routine" service) another profile that was £170, which is really top end for NW is now £230, nice work if you can get it.

 It would be good if the pricing data from adultwork was searchable by date

[Rain_man]

I think looks are subjective, I will happily take a Plain Jane with a good attitude in all 3 holes above a girl that looks like blow-up doll.

Which would be the case for many punters, myself included.

But when the plain Jane thinks she can command what amounts to a week’s rent (for some) for an hour or less of starfish sex with a mechanical or even hostile attitude...said plane Jane needs to take a long walk.

The same goes for punters who are willing or even happy to put up with it.

[hw189]

Many escorts advertise a ridiculous rate on their AW profile that no sane punter (especially on here) would pay. They also have a lot of feedback to their name on AW, which would make many wonder if they really do have clients paying those insane prices. I have noticed on many occasion with these escorts that the only way they are getting any business at all are by accepting reverse bids that are far lower than their advertised rates.

[Williams56]

This is a subject that crops up from time to time but for Northants and Beds I think prices have stagnated and fallen in real terms since my first punt in 2004.

Back then both indies and parlours generally charged £120/hr. I very rarely use parlours but a quick look around the internet shows these are still charging £120/hr and that includes a couple in Milton Keynes. Indies on AW now start from £80/hr but the majority seem to run at between £100-120/hr, of course you can spend more if you want but there still seems a reasonable range of non EE girls asking for £120/hr.

According to this site £120 in 2004 had the same purchasing power as £150-160 today.
External Link/Members Only

[lovemachine]

 I find hard to believe that the £50/15min rate that seems to be widespread now gets any buisness. That short a booking goes so fast I rarely feel it was money well spent.

[claretandblue]

I find hard to believe that the £50/15min rate that seems to be widespread now gets any buisness. That short a booking goes so fast I rarely feel it was money well spent.

if you can find a high level oral performer,shorter oral only bookings can work.15 minutes of dt owo going into cim is a good option....

[Heph]

But when the plain Jane thinks she can command what amounts to a week’s rent (for some) for an hour or less of starfish sex with a mechanical...attitude...said plane Jane needs to take a long walk.

The same goes for punters who are willing or even happy to put up with it.

That's an interesting claim right there. A week's rent (for some) - depends on whose rent we're talking about of course, but we all know that the average hourly rate is something like £100/130 +/-.

So forgetting the 'hostility' bit, which nobody halfway sensible should be dishing out to customers - the question has to be: what is the rate you'd be happy to put up with (as a punter / and in a job-swap)?

[Ali Katt]

That's an interesting claim right there. A week's rent (for some) - depends on whose rent we're talking about of course, but we all know that the average hourly rate is something like £100/130 +/-.

So forgetting the 'hostility' bit, which nobody halfway sensible should be dishing out to customers - the question has to be: what is the rate you'd be happy to put up with (as a punter / and in a job-swap)?

There's a shelf life, as we know a girl who is 20 can charge more than one who is say 50, regardless of nationality. There's no reason why some who is good with money can't retire after 10 years assuming they are reasonably popular. I think the issue is from this thread is the quality seems to have gone down, but the price has gone up. I'm willing to risk what could be a bad punt with someone less than £100 an hour, but if I am paying upwards of £120 I am going to be more cautious and expect a lot more.

[Heph]

There's a shelf life, as we know a girl who is 20 can charge more than one who is say 50, regardless of nationality. There's no reason why some who is good with money can't retire after 10 years assuming they are reasonably popular. I think the issue is from this thread is the quality seems to have gone down, but the price has gone up. I'm willing to risk what could be a bad punt with someone less than £100 an hour, but if I am paying upwards of £120 I am going to be more cautious and expect a lot more.

The price was almost certainly going to go up regardless (assuming modern inflationary policy), but depending on where the punter is in his income curve, it may have nevertheless cost him relatively less. 

My sense, albeit over a longer time-frame, is that inflation-adjusted prices have certainly fallen; in some cases (depending on the starting point) real prices have also fallen, and the quality of service has also improved (if measured by variety of women, their availability, ease of access, greater visibility and range of services offered).

There's been some corollary dips or uneveness: slightly harder to Buy British / Commonwealth; possibly greter risk of STIs; greater chance of mumblefucks (ie perhaps less conversational fluency).

[Luckyscots]

I think looks are subjective, I will happily take a Plain Jane with a good attitude in all 3 holes above a girl that looks like blow-up doll.

Agree with you there Ali Katt. I dont want some high maintenance bitch, who thinks she is the cats pyjamas. Or even worse some East European who does not want to to be there.
Give me a plain looking girl any day, who will get down on her knees and suck you without a condom and shows some degree of enthusiasm for getting fucked.
Looks unimportant, but cleanliness and making a bit of effort on the cloths and lingerie front is.

[workinallweek]

Agree with you there Ali Katt. I dont want some high maintenance bitch, who thinks she is the cats pyjamas. Or even worse some East European who does not want to to be there.
Give me a plain looking girl any day, who will get down on her knees and suck you without a condom and shows some degree of enthusiasm for getting fucked.
Looks unimportant, but cleanliness and making a bit of effort on the cloths and lingerie front is.

I think thats what it was like the girls realised without the punter they were not earning ,they on the whole were pleasant and did what it said on the can ,they actually seemed to respect the idea of regulars . but now they seem to think they are doing you a favour ,they think they are the best and you should know it . Looking at my previous punts (some reviewed ) i cant think of many negative punts perhaps 6 maybe (in about the same number of years) but in the last 12 months i have had 2 mess me about and one shite punt alone all at £120 plus an hour

[Heph]

Give me a plain looking girl any day, who will get down on her knees and suck you without a condom and shows some degree of enthusiasm for getting fucked.
Looks unimportant, but cleanliness and making a bit of effort on the cloths and lingerie front is.

But before the EE 'renaissance' of competition: often you'd arrive 'blind' to find that your girls were rather unremarkable, with mixed degrees of enthusiasm, a conveyor-belt approach; they probably offered only light kissing, typically no OWO, almost certainly no CIM/S, and often exuded a weary sense of entitlement that comes from a guild-like approach to pricing.

Although all of those traits can still be found today, it's generally easier to navigate away from girls who possess most of them, and towards someone who bucks the trend in one way or another.

[Marmalade]

Sorry, I think prossies are overpriced. The combined effect of EE skanks and harassment by the authorities has reduced the number of decent hard working new girls who can’t be doing with the hassle and opened the market more to criminal gangs and EE lowlife who are both expert at evasion and don’t care.

It’s like the old story with drugs and alcohol: abolition laws you can’t enforce are bad laws. Accommodation is better. It means safer products and services, and proper regulation for sellers and consumers.

[Heph]

Sorry, I think prossies are overpriced.

They might be: but they were relatively even more so previously.

There's something in economics called Gresham's law, which might support your view. Its principle is that " bad money drives out good " -  It generally applies to commodity money, not paid-for sex- so i doubt SAAFE would endorse it. 

[Marmalade]

They might be: but they were relatively even more so previously.

There's something in economics called Gresham's law, which might support your view. Its principle is that " bad money drives out good " -  It generally applies to commodity money, not paid-for sex- so i doubt SAAFE would endorse it.

Gresham’s law just proves my point.

[Ali Katt]

But before the EE 'renaissance' of competition: often you'd arrive 'blind' to find that your girls were rather unremarkable, with mixed degrees of enthusiasm, a conveyor-belt approach; they probably offered only light kissing, typically no OWO, almost certainly no CIM/S, and often exuded a weary sense of entitlement that comes from a guild-like approach to pricing.

Although all of those traits can still be found today, it's generally easier to navigate away from girls who possess most of them, and towards someone who bucks the trend in one way or another.

The top one sounds like most reviews of Roma on here. What has changed is there seems to be hardly any Polish, French, genuine Spanish girls on the game outside London; we have Roma, Slovak and Hungarian.

[dthompson88]

Just the other day a WG tried to charge me £90 for a half hour incall, that was her BASE rate. She was nice looking but in no way anything special and the location was a council estate, so really no reason for the jacked up price.

[Heph]

Just the other day a WG tried to charge me £90 for a half hour incall, that was her BASE rate. She was nice looking but in no way anything special and the location was a council estate, so really no reason for the jacked up price.

We trust you 'no thankyou very maaaaach'-ed her

[eric 70]

sexi madison £160!!!!

[dthompson88]

Yep Heph, did exactly that. 

And  look at this one:
External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

£120 for 15 min or the half hour  and VERIFIED 

[fed24]

This is a thorny subject as already pointed out there are Punters prepared to pay and we all seem to have a slightly different view to what is expensive or cheap. I can't even remember what I exactly paid when I started punting twenty years ago, in those early almost pre-internet days I remember it was cheaper but less was on offer activity wise.

We can't ignore inflationary pressure, wages have been stagnant for the last decade yet accommodation and food prices have gone up.

As I have said before we also need to take a few factors into consideration for price inflation:

1) The EE/Romanian flood has distorted the market driving out many woman from the oldest profession
2) Theresa Mays Visa clamp down has driven out many of the Southeast Asian working girls
3) The prior issue is exacerbated by economic booms in Southeast Asian countries like Thailand leading many young rural woman who once went into prostitution to staying to work in the new factories. Even if they do become prossies there is plenty of work at home and with the Visa clamp down and fall in the pound the cost of coming to the UK is becoming prohibitive with the associated risk of getting thrown out by UK Passport control and getting a permanent mark on their Passport record
4) Disruptive technology! I don't think we talk about this enough but considering the proliferation of affordable broadband and the fact that even a cheap sub £200 laptop is capable of streaming HD video using a Webcam that cost less than £10 many young local woman who might once have supplemented their income by going into Prostitution will now become Cam-Performers! Non of that actual ickyness of having sex with strangers, no risk of pimps taking a proportion of the cut and they can work it around their own schedule. The last point is particularly of relevance to students. Add to that a preference amongst the young for Electronic payment rather than cash in hand

Taking all that into consideration we are working with a reduced field of working girls and I am not surprised that prices are creeping up!

When I worked regularly in London I almost exclusively punted £150 a pop Thai agency girls, looking back now aside from the flood of Bait and Switch agencies those that are left that I used are showing the same girls I punted eight year ago with the same pictures and they even have the gall to put "New girl" on those profiles! There is little to no evidence of any genuine new girls...that whole scene is a barren wasteland now which is awful for guys like me who used to have an 'Oriental Only' policy!

[MilleMiglia]

Very true on point 4. Many cam girls have private chats rates that are prohibitively expensive (although, presumably, not to everyone).

[Heph]

Your points 3 & (especially) 4 - very nicely observed.


But I'm not letting this quoted point go unchallenged.

We can't ignore inflationary pressure, wages have been stagnant for the last decade.... yet accommodation and food prices have gone up.

Wages have been stagnant?  But check your personal allowance. It's an often overlooked consideration, but this has increased by something like £6,500 over the last decade - and it means that every year you are not paying 20% tax on that increase. This currently gives you and everybody earning less than £100k an effective pay rise of c. £1300 per year).

Accomodation: granted. Bastard owners and rent-seekers.

Food prices have gone up? Only very recently, and after about a decade of falling food prices. The Aldi/ Lidl effect, amongst others, has cut the cost of food for most, as the cabal of main players (Tesco, Sainsbury, Morrisons) tried to compete on prices. 

[fed24]

I am standing by it wages have been stagnant.

[Heph]

I am standing by it wages have been stagnant.

They have... but that's immaterial if you've been getting an extra £1k+ every year in your pocket. Whether you've noticed it or not, effectively you've been getting a pay rise.

[Ali Katt]

They have... but that's immaterial if you've been getting an extra £1k+ every year in your pocket. Whether you've noticed it or not, effectively you've been getting a pay rise.

Offset it against the price of food, energy bills and water rates increasing.

[Heph]

Offset it against the price of food, energy bills and water rates increasing.

But, that was understood.
Except the food increases (which actually decreased), and the overdone focus on wages, ignoring increased disposable income.
You're still way ahead.

Accomodation (except outside London) was the unavoidable unarguable bummer - although, in fact rental costs have been decreasing for a while now.

[Ali Katt]

But, that was understood.
Except the food increases (which actually decreased), and the overdone focus on wages, ignoring increased disposable income.

They haven't. Most people measure it on the basics. A loaf of bread is pretty much double what it was 10 years ago, you can't buy a decent loaf of bread for less than £1. Who shops in Aldi and Lidl? Despite what people think they aren't that much cheaper than anywhere else and you often end up buying brands nobody has heard of: Dorkers Crisps, Dr Popper.

But, that was understood.
Except the food increases (which actually decreased), and the overdone focus on wages, ignoring increased disposable income.
You're still way ahead.

Accomodation (except outside London) was the unavoidable unarguable bummer - although, in fact rental costs have been decreasing for a while now.

I could be wrong, but it has increased everywhere. What has drove prices up has been most new builds becoming student housing as well as supply and demand. Most new builds near me are student housing only.

[Heph]

They haven't. Most people measure it on the basics. A loaf of bread is pretty much double what it was 10 years ago, you can't buy a decent loaf of bread for less than £1. Who shops in Aldi and Lidl? Despite what people think they aren't that much cheaper than anywhere else and you often end up buying brands nobody has heard of: Dorkers Crisps, Dr Popper.

Bread:
The current spread is from 62p - £1.25 for regular-ish sliced white stuff*. The average in 2008? £1.17 - it's actually getting cheaper.

Who shops in Aldi and Lidl?
About 13%. Throw in the other budget operators like Iceland and the Co-op (and there are plenty of smaller regional ones) and you're not far off 1 in 4 people.

Not much cheaper? I've only been twice, one was last year to see what the fuss was about. A range of vegetables were 30% cheaper than I was used to paying - that's significant. And the point is that the big four have been lowering their prices to forestall loss of market share. (Average supermarket margins btw are about 2-3%).

I could be wrong, but it has increased everywhere. What has drove prices up has been most new builds becoming student housing as well as supply and demand. Most new builds near me are student housing only.

There are regions where prices stagnated or even fell: the NW, SW, Wales and NI. London has done well, and the big cities have done ok. Successful university cities have done well. But many middling cities and towns (ie the majority) have had quite a hard time of it and as a result accommodation prices to buy or rent have often fallen, either relatively or even absolutely.


I'll reiterate: everyone has a personal level of inflation - so your individual experience may be different. But on the whole, your food has become cheaper and your tax-free income has (barring catastophes) gone up.

[Marmalade]

Much of the daft pricing is to do with hassle. Change the law.

Imagine an old, very large London hotel, one that’s a bit run down but has lots of basic rooms.

Image the rooms are rented to prossies by the hour. Imagine there is a concierge on the door, security close by and on call, rooms are fitted with alarm buttons for extra security. Imagine standard health checks are available for any prossies that work there, with liaison to social services, tattoo artists, and anything else for which there is demand. Easy access for checks to prevent use by underage or trafficked women.

Imagine how much easier that would be for a woman who just wants to earn an extra few bob occasionally. No web page. No profile-making. Safe environment and no harassment from police. Imagine how much safer it would be. And cheaper.

[king tarzan]

Many new starters have no idea what price they should be
Way over pricing themselves
A few months back contacted 1 of those Web cam honeys because escort box was ticked
Wanted £1k for hour .. obviously didn't proceed!!
I offered £250, she says that's dinner companion rate. .
What nonsense

[Heph]

Many new starters have no idea what price they should be
Way over pricing themselves
A few months back contacted 1 of those Web cam honeys because escort box was ticked
Wanted £1k for hour .. obviously didn't proceed!!
I offered £250, she says that's dinner companion rate. .
What nonsense

As a fellow punter, clearly i see where you're coming from, but it can be helpful to look at it another way...

If you ask to buy something that isn't listed for sale, then clearly normal market price considerations are suspended.

In the £1k case above, it's tempting to be outraged by the piss-taking delusion. However, that's probably to take the matter too seriously. As long as its not her core business, it's actually rational for her to overprice, even if it appears absurd to us.

Mr Happypants observed something similar recently. Many cam girls don't actually want to escort, but might toy with an exceptional 'indecent proposal' from the occassional passing 'whale' who is smitten and, who, in the heat of the moment, thinks with the wrong organ.

[Ali Katt]

Bread:
The current spread is from 62p - £1.25 for regular-ish sliced white stuff*. The average in 2008? £1.17 - it's actually getting cheaper.

Who shops in Aldi and Lidl?
About 13%. Throw in the other budget operators like Iceland and the Co-op (and there are plenty of smaller regional ones) and you're not far off 1 in 4 people.

Not much cheaper? I've only been twice, one was last year to see what the fuss was about. A range of vegetables were 30% cheaper than I was used to paying - that's significant. And the point is that the big four have been lowering their prices to forestall loss of market share. (Average supermarket margins btw are about 2-3%).

There are regions where prices stagnated or even fell: the NW, SW, Wales and NI. London has done well, and the big cities have done ok. Successful university cities have done well. But many middling cities and towns (ie the majority) have had quite a hard time of it and as a result accommodation prices to buy or rent have often fallen, either relatively or even absolutely.


I'll reiterate: everyone has a personal level of inflation - so your individual experience may be different. But on the whole, your food has become cheaper and your tax-free income has (barring catastophes) gone up.

I'm sorry I stand corrected. My income has gone up, but it feels like I have less money and I only make a few extravagant purchases a year, this year it will be three holidays. I live in a university city and the average rent seems to have gone up around £50 compared to around 5 years ago.

[Ali Katt]

Many new starters have no idea what price they should be
Way over pricing themselves
A few months back contacted 1 of those Web cam honeys because escort box was ticked
Wanted £1k for hour .. obviously didn't proceed!!
I offered £250, she says that's dinner companion rate. .
What nonsense

I think the likes of Sugardaddies has had an impact on these prices.

[Spiceoflife]

Much of the daft pricing is to do with hassle. Change the law.

Imagine an old, very large London hotel, one that’s a bit run down but has lots of basic rooms.

Image the rooms are rented to prossies by the hour. Imagine there is a concierge on the door, security close by and on call, rooms are fitted with alarm buttons for extra security. Imagine standard health checks are available for any prossies that work there, with liaison to social services, tattoo artists, and anything else for which there is demand. Easy access for checks to prevent use by underage or trafficked women.

Imagine how much easier that would be for a woman who just wants to earn an extra few bob occasionally. No web page. No profile-making. Safe environment and no harassment from police. Imagine how much safer it would be. And cheaper.

And imagine how easy it would be to get spotted entering or leaving.
I personally have price limits and searches simply don't show the ones with exorbitant prices.

[Marmalade]

And imagine how easy it would be to get spotted entering or leaving.
I personally have price limits and searches simply don't show the ones with exorbitant prices.

Definitely not for you then! 

[cash2spare]

Remember when punting a wg your paying her for what her pimp, minder, b/f gets for free.
If she wasn't selling her pussy she'd be working at tesco's (if she could get a job) for £7.50 per hour, therefore anything above £7.50 is a big win win for her.
Some of the £150-£250 per hour they want is ridiculous, after all your just shooting your load into a French letter.
If your doing her doggy then you can't see her boat race so the actual act would feel the same with a skank tramp or a "high class" (lol) hooker.

[Heph]

I'm sorry I stand corrected. My income has gone up, but it feels like I have less money and I only make a few extravagant purchases a year, this year it will be three holidays. I live in a university city and the average rent seems to have gone up around £50 compared to around 5 years ago.

Well, with respect, you did lay it out. And whilst assuming that our personal lot might be representative of everyone else's situation is understandable, it can also be mighty misleading.
And £50 up compared to 5 years ago sounds like you got a real steal to me.

[Everhard115]

I would have punted a lot more if the rates were around 60 and 100 for half hour and hour. However current rates are 90 and 150 type for the type of girls tick my boxes. So i guess from a prossies point of view it might make sense to see fewer clients and make the same money by charging more. From my point of view the value for money concept kicks in hence i have only punted once in the last 2 years! If narket is forking clearly guys out there must be paying for the prossies to charge high rates just means tight punters like me can keep on holding on to their money in one and cock in the other till a time the prices become a bit reasonable ;p

[king tarzan]

Some of the self pricing is absolutely outrageous for there physical quality and mediocre services..
£400 + a few on adultworks and £600 + on some agencies..
Ridiculous! !

[workinallweek]

If i  had a regular which if she was £100 an hour and say £180 for two i would punt with twice a month for two hours ,however for a hour she wants £130 and £250 for two hours so i would see her once a month she looses £110 a month from a 'regular' known client .
For me handing over £200 in one hit grates .

[king tarzan]

Just use your own initiative in this game.
I have savvy experience in punting so that for me goes a long way..
She is overpriced if you let her be by seeing her..

[fed24]

Some of the self pricing is absolutely outrageous for there physical quality and mediocre services..
£400 + a few on adultworks and £600 + on some agencies..
Ridiculous! !

The genuine High end escort agencies are catering to a different market, very wealthy usually international businessman who want to have a girl on retainer for at least a weekend and don't want her to be spoiled goods so to say. They charge those rates to scare off the average punter!

These High end escorts will very rarely do a 1hr in-call punt, they are expecting to at least do an overnight with meal at £3000+. A millionaire hedge fund manager is hardly going to blink an eye at that kind of pricing.

Now that being said there are as mentioned in another thread a fair few Cam Girls on Adultwork who don't really want to do a real punt but offer the chance at some ridiculously high price on the off chance they might attract a 'Whale'. There are guys who almost exclusively watch Cam girls that might well be tempted to pay that ridiculous price after saving up to get a chance to actually f*ck the girl they have spent hundreds and even thousands of £s on private Cam shows. By setting the price ridiculously high they avoid having to actually having to see average punters but dangle a very financially lucrative to themselves worm to the people crazy enough to pay it! Unfortunately Remote-EAS is a common problem in the Cam-Girl world as far as I can make out, there are girls who exploit that. The irony is the Punt will probably be perfunctory and awful! There is a good chance that the poor deluded sap who paid for all that Cam-time from a girl might get at best a hand job when he actually stumps up to see her!

[Ali Katt]

The genuine High end escort agencies are catering to a different market, very wealthy usually international businessman who want to have a girl on retainer for at least a weekend and don't want her to be spoiled goods so to say. They charge those rates to scare off the average punter!

These High end escorts will very rarely do a 1hr in-call punt, they are expecting to at least do an overnight with meal at £3000+. A millionaire hedge fund manager is hardly going to blink an eye at that kind of pricing.

Now that being said there are as mentioned in another thread a fair few Cam Girls on Adultwork who don't really want to do a real punt but offer the chance at some ridiculously high price on the off chance they might attract a 'Whale'. There are guys who almost exclusively watch Cam girls that might well be tempted to pay that ridiculous price after saving up to get a chance to actually f*ck the girl they have spent hundreds and even thousands of £s on private Cam shows. By setting the price ridiculously high they avoid having to actually having to see average punters but dangle a very financially lucrative to themselves worm to the people crazy enough to pay it! Unfortunately Remote-EAS is a common problem in the Cam-Girl world as far as I can make out, there are girls who exploit that. The irony is the Punt will probably be perfunctory and awful! There is a good chance that the poor deluded sap who paid for all that Cam-time from a girl might get at best a hand job when he actually stumps up to see her!

Good post and a completely different market to what I think most people on here are looking for.

[workinallweek]

some use a high price to make them sound better than they really are .

[king tarzan]

The genuine High end escort agencies are catering to a different market, very wealthy usually international businessman who want to have a girl on retainer for at least a weekend and don't want her to be spoiled goods so to say. They charge those rates to scare off the average punter!

These High end escorts will very rarely do a 1hr in-call punt, they are expecting to at least do an overnight with meal at £3000+. A millionaire hedge fund manager is hardly going to blink an eye at that kind of pricing.

Now that being said there are as mentioned in another thread a fair few Cam Girls on Adultwork who don't really want to do a real punt but offer the chance at some ridiculously high price on the off chance they might attract a 'Whale'. There are guys who almost exclusively watch Cam girls that might well be tempted to pay that ridiculous price after saving up to get a chance to actually f*ck the girl they have spent hundreds and even thousands of £s on private Cam shows. By setting the price ridiculously high they avoid having to actually having to see average punters but dangle a very financially lucrative to themselves worm to the people crazy enough to pay it! Unfortunately Remote-EAS is a common problem in the Cam-Girl world as far as I can make out, there are girls who exploit that. The irony is the Punt will probably be perfunctory and awful! There is a good chance that the poor deluded sap who paid for all that Cam-time from a girl might get at best a hand job when he actually stumps up to see her!

Same escort can be on adultworks at a standard rate when she first starts out and a year later or so can be on these high end exclusive fancy dandy websites at extortionate rates..
They move up in the escorting ladder world!

[fed24]

Yeah, I generally see those kind of Escorts who seem to think that there is a real Escorting Ladder where they can massively up their prices due to time served as deluded! Once a woman hits her mid thirties the 'Sexual Market Value' she commands is going to drop, making out that she has gone up some mythical whore ladder of value is a fantasy! Of course experience counts and an 18yo performing her first ever punt is probably not going to give as good service as a 19yo with twelve months of punting under her belt! (not that is always the case but we are talking in averages here)

The woman who are genuine High End Elite Escorts catering to that wealthy high end market are going to enter it at the premium level with premium prices. They are not going to work up the ladder to it. They need to be genetically and through actual and effort of care for their bodies with exercise and good diet perfect specimens! They have Very High 'Sexual Market Value' and charge to reflect that reality!

They will also float in and out of actually Escorting as they will also no doubt have an eye to meeting and marrying the right kind of wealthy guy so will also frequent the right exclusive clubs and social events like 'Royal Ascot'. The high end, high price punts are there to give an income whilst they are doing that.

[Ali Katt]

Yeah, I generally see those kind of Escorts who seem to think that there is a real Escorting Ladder where they can massively up their prices due to time served as deluded! Once a woman hits her mid thirties the 'Sexual Market Value' she commands is going to drop, making out that she has gone up some mythical whore ladder of value is a fantasy! Of course experience counts and an 18yo performing her first ever punt is probably not going to give as good service as a 19yo with twelve months of punting under her belt! (not that is always the case but we are talking in averages here)

The woman who are genuine High End Elite Escorts catering to that wealthy high end market are going to enter it at the premium level with premium prices. They are not going to work up the ladder to it. They need to be genetically and through actual and effort of care for their bodies with exercise and good diet perfect specimens! They have Very High 'Sexual Market Value' and charge to reflect that reality!

They will also float in and out of actually Escorting as they will also no doubt have an eye to meeting and marrying the right kind of wealthy guy so will also frequent the right exclusive clubs and social events like 'Royal Ascot'. The high end, high price punts are there to give an income whilst they are doing that.

Let's face up the mythical courtesans don't advertise their prices, it is open to negotiation and most don't advertise, they certainly won't be on AW.

[fed24]

Exactly which is why I think those who do charge those prices on Adultwork are deluded or scammers!

[king tarzan]

1 thing I have learned is fact

The more you pay the more beautiful the woman
100% NOT THE CASE

extremely beautiful women can be rented at affordable prices..

You don't have to be a millionaire to fuck a stunner..

Whores are deluded anyway..some of them..