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Offline albedo39

Slight variation on topic but it amuses me too when WG's advertise 'best bj around' when most I've experienced have poor technique verging on the dull - no doubt a crap bj would also be worthy of a price increase!  :cool: poor misguided souls.

Offline EnglishRebecca121

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From my knowledge british sp are the highest sought out after, due to no language barrier, same culture, easier to talk and banter with. Especially those looking for longer bookings. I know this as I talk to many clients about their 'punting' hobby and what they look for in WGs.  Maybe on UKP EE is favorable though .. I could be wrong.

My rates work for me currently, if I provided less services I would drop them.

Total bullshit the most popular rated girl in my area is polish I have worked with english, polish  , lativan and spanish and they all are popular. The polish lady charges more than most brits in the area and is very busy so this isnt true at all x
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HalleAstley

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Examples of 'high class' .. So you know im not making this up.

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Sorry not much diversity but many white/asian women do the same

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Total bullshit the most popular rated girl in my area is polish I have worked with english, polish  , lativan and spanish and they all are popular. The polish lady charges more than most brits in the area and is very busy so this isnt true at all x
Teach her a lesson ER.  :thumbsup:
This young girl is full of shit

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Total bullshit the most popular rated girl in my area is polish I have worked with english, polish  , lativan and spanish and they all are popular. The polish lady charges more than most brits in the area and is very busy so this isnt true at all x

What is your area?

Offline albedo39

Examples of 'high class' .. So you know im not making this up.

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Sorry not much diversity but many white/asian women do the same

Sorry - examples who 'think' they're high class (but sadly deluded)

Offline Jimmyredcab

Teach her a lesson ER.  :thumbsup:
This young girl is full of shit

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Where is James999 when he is needed.     :D :lol:

Offline EnglishRebecca121

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Bristol BUT i lived in kensington before this and the same rules applied.

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Punter115

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It is really up to us ( the punter) to bring some sort of sense to these over inflated prices.
A lot will be what part of the country you do your punting in ...I would imagine the further south you go the more expensive it will be especially in London.
I live in Scotland so I refuse to go above £70 h.h. And £120 per hour if I can get it cheaper even better
I don’t think I could ever imagine going much above this and when you look at some of the prices it is incredible ...£150 plus for an hour or £100 plus for half an hour ...I really don’t think in the main can these prices be worth it but there again if I was maybe 30 years younger I may change my mind but I really doubt it .
If you look and do your homework there are escorts out their that are really good punts for the amount I pay and all these escorts with golden fannies we should ensure they have dusty phones until they are forced to bring there prices down!

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Total bullshit the most popular rated girl in my area is polish I have worked with english, polish  , lativan and spanish and they all are popular. The polish lady charges more than most brits in the area and is very busy so this isnt true at all x

I am talking largely Romanians and Bulgarians. But as I said not all, just in general.

Offline Mr_Shins

From the days I was only after pro-domme women, the classy one I met was:

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and that was in 2010 and I paid £200 for 1 hour. She now charges £300.

She had a nice apartment close to Paddington. A really nice apartment - not a squashed-up bedsit.

She was different from other pro-dommes in that she worked from her apartment, not a dungeon, and she didn't wear fetish outfits but normal clothing. Exactly what attracted me to her.

I didn't meet her a second time albeit I was tempted by some of her "dating" options like taking her to an opera or similar. (I was however married at the time...)



Offline albedo39

I've decided to put on some music and have a nice slow wank. I'm gonna charge myself £90 (£10 extra for a scented candle) and have a nice lunch somewhere tomorrow on the proceeds :D
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Offline finn5555

You've never met me yet you come to this conclusion? And you continue to put me down? For what reason .. never understood men like you  :D

You are full of shit  :dash: you suck the cock of every Tom, Dick and Abdul for money  :dash:

Offline smiths

No, the people who book "high class" escorts are deluded in thinking they are getting something better by paying more money.

Indeed they are, a WG calling herself high class is simply marketing speak in punting, it doesn't mean she is a good WG who offers punters a good service, but 99% of the time what it does mean is expensive and some punters think this means her service will be better than WGs who charge less. A fatal way of thinking in punting as what makes a good and bad WG is their attitude, NOT what they happen to charge.

Also many WGs don't set their rates themselves anyway, their pimp does, he or she decides what to charge and how to market them.

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You are full of shit  :dash: you suck the cock of every Tom, Dick and Abdul for money  :dash:

And you pay me to cum? Who is worse?  :lol:  :D

Offline Mr_Shins

I might pay a higher rate but:

1. It has to be one I am really attracted to and
2. Even then there is a limit.

If I don't like the profile at all I won't go, even for free.

With regards to Halle, if you're charging £160 and getting enough business from it and you're happy with that then continue on, but don't set your sites on putting your rates up a stupid amount. You'll drive away many of your existing regulars and won't get what you want.

Offline finn5555

And you pay me to cum? Who is worse?  :lol:  :D

No  I pay you to make me cum I don’t give a shit if you do or don’t  :wacko:

Not that you will ever find out as you’re not my cup of tea  :sarcastic:

Offline myothernameis

Some of the escorts I have seen over the years, don't charge anything more than £100, and would say, from these escorts, they were very open to the following; kissing+dfk, fingering, toy play, going down, riming, so the girls have no problem with these likes, and I always enjoy my self, as does the girl

Where as an escort I had seen, charged £150 for the hour, no kissing, no fingering, wasn't into rimming, toy play had to use her toys, didn't like it when I fucked her very hard, it was an ok meeting, but to me an escort who charges £100 puts in a lot more effort to get you to come back

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I might pay a higher rate but:

1. It has to be one I am really attracted to and
2. Even then there is a limit.

If I don't like the profile at all I won't go, even for free.

With regards to Halle, if you're charging £160 and getting enough business from it and you're happy with that then continue on, but don't set your sites on putting your rates up a stupid amount. You'll drive away many of your existing regulars and won't get what you want.

I am happy with my current rate, it works for me. But in a few years as I gain experience and regulars it will go up. I hope to be at £250 at around 200+ ratings.

Offline finn5555

I am happy with my current rate, it works for me. But in a few years as I gain experience and regulars it will go up. I hope to be at £250 at around 200+ ratings.

Dream on at those rates you will have this

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I am happy with my current rate, it works for me. But in a few years as I gain experience and regulars it will go up. I hope to be at £250 at around 200+ ratings.
Sure when you get older and jaded you can charge more :crazy: :dash: :dash:

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Sure when you get older and jaded you can charge more :crazy: :dash: :dash:

23 is old?

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I am happy with my current rate, it works for me. But in a few years as I gain experience and regulars it will go up. I hope to be at £250 at around 200+ ratings.
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so will you keep your old rate for regulars?  :unknown:
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Offline albedo39

And you pay me to cum? Who is worse?  :lol:  :D

Kinda sums it up really - hasn't yet worked out that offering a service for payment doesn't entail her personal self-fulfilment - beam me up Scotty!

Offline Jimmyredcab

And you pay me to pretend to cum? Who is worse?  :lol:  :D

Corrected it for you.    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Offline manc36

I am happy with my current rate, it works for me. But in a few years as I gain experience and regulars it will go up. I hope to be at £250 at around 200+ ratings.

£250 a hour ?.  Jesus I could get over nighters with seriously stunning students for that on SA.
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HalleAstley

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Corrected it for you.    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Oh I didn't mean me cumming, although I do enjoy my job or I wouldn't do it. I mean the client cumming. I mean you can cum for free .. so I don't see why you're putting someone down for providing services 'I suck and fuck everyone' when if we are so dirty and nasty why are you paying to touch us?
There is nothing wrong in providing or seeking .. neither is worse than the other. We are both stigmatized by society so why bash a provider? The same people you go to on a regular basis.

HalleAstley

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£250 a hour ?.  Jesus I could get over nighters with seriously stunning students for that on SA.

This is true.  :lol:

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ER according to this little girl you should charge min £250 as you  have 700+ aw reviews. It makes sense for her. Did you know that? :dash:

Offline hillingdonpete

I don't know, I was told an aussie woman charges 1000 an hour.. By a well known domme in Earls Court. I know some who charge 300-600. I'm not sure what they do. I mean pornstars usually charge 300/400. Usually due to services and the fact they are a pornstar.
Some can charge 'high class' prices are they are models or former models.
And some just have a stellar track record and slowly raised their prices to that high. There will always be men that will pay these prices, for some men paying 400 an hour is not an issue..if you make 100k a year why would it be?
Some girls prefer the less calls and fewer clients. You could get to 2 bookings a week at this price and make £3,200 a month for 8 hours of work - thats one full days shift a month. Compared to someone at £100 an hour. You do the math  :lol:


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ER according to this little girl you should charge min £250 as you  have 700+ aw reviews. It makes sense for her. Did you know that? :dash:

yep im to cheap  :D :rolleyes:
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I have a rule of thumb with profiles; does it give me a semi? Surely, I'm not the only one? If it does I will probably make a booking.

The casing point is this profile. She been a provider for 5 months more than you, but has 85 positive rating. Having spoke to her she also said she has no complaints. Definitely an explicit profile, but she does genuinely enjoy sex.

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Not saying a bad word about this profile or your point in general however your logic when comparing this girls rating is that being a web cammer distorts the rating on first glance. Therefore an entirely unfair comparison.

HalleAstley

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yep im to cheap  :D :rolleyes:

You charge whatever you like its your business. I don't think you're too cheap, thats the good thing about this you can charge and provide whatever you're happy with.

Offline Mr_Shins

Looking at SecretAngel35's feedback, there is one (wildkarrde) who has made a lot of visits so a repeat customer and another one (pr1973) who has made more than one visit and also putty32 if you go further down.

So she gets multiple visitors and a few who repeat and come back.

She's also been positively reviewed a number of times on this site.


Offline manc36

Looking at SecretAngel35's feedback, there is one (wildkarrde) who has made a lot of visits so a repeat customer and another one (pr1973) who has made more than one visit and also putty32 if you go further down.

So she gets multiple visitors and a few who repeat and come back.

She's also been positively reviewed a number of times on this site.

Sweet jesus , each to their own but you'd have to pay me.
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Not saying a bad word about this profile or your point in general however your logic when comparing this girls rating is that being a web cammer distorts the rating on first glance. Therefore an entirely unfair comparison.
Fair point, although if you include directcam and directchat they only add up to about 13 ratings in total. Her not being in London is also valid with regards pricing. The point I was making is why does one escort have around 80 positive ratings and the other have 7 despite working for a similar amount of time?

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Fair point, although if you include directcam and directchat they only add up to about 13 ratings in total. Her not being in London is also valid with regards pricing. The point I was making is why does one escort have around 80 positive ratings and the other have 7 despite working for a similar amount of time?

I only started taking AW seriously mid Jan. Until Feb I knew what I was doing and started a routine. I started escorting in Oct 2017. And still I'm learning every day..there is no training. You learn on the job and take advice from willing WGs and Clients. This month I work 1 day incalls a week and a few outcalls a week and 3 days I am at uni. I usually take 1 week off a month.

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I only started taking AW seriously mid Jan. Until Feb I knew what I was doing and started a routine. I started escorting in Oct 2017. And still I'm learning every day..there is no training. You learn on the job and take advice from willing WGs and Clients. This month I work 1 day incalls a week and a few outcalls a week and 3 days I am at uni. I usually take 1 week off a month.
You have a routine that works for you. I think if you are a part-timer you would probably do better on seekingarrangements.

HalleAstley

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You have a routine that works for you. I think if you are a part-timer you would probably do better on seekingarrangements.

No way. I was offered an £800 monthly allowance for 4 overnights. It is way too cheap there and it requires constant messaging of men as there are way too many women compared to men. I am also not interesting in creating a fake relationship with someone (texting/dating/calling) everyday for an allowance with someone I don't care about. Although I wouldn't mind if I genuinely liked my client and he was someone booking me for a while and would like to be a mentor type figure - which is what sugaring is really about. But many on there want cheap escorts. So many young girls on SA are ill-informed and will take these little rates. Alot of my bookings are from non-members so my rating is not a reflection on the amount of bookings I get.

Offline Scotpunter

I'd imagine a wg's hourly value will be at it's highest until she is in her late 20's. I can understand these girls trying to make as much as they can while they still have youth on their side. As they get older; for me as a punter to pay similar rates to what they charged at age 25, I'd be expecting a slightly less vanilla service.

Just like anyone working, you decide what you are willing to work for. If you think you are worth more than you are, you get no work. The same applies to WG's.

No way. I was offered an £800 monthly allowance for 4 overnights. It is way too cheap there and it requires constant messaging of men as there are way too many women compared to men. I am also not interesting in creating a fake relationship with someone (texting/dating/calling) everyday for an allowance with someone I don't care about. Although I wouldn't mind if I genuinely liked my client and he was someone booking me for a while and would like to be a mentor type figure - which is what sugaring is really about. But many on there want cheap escorts. So many young girls on SA are ill-informed and will take these little rates. Alot of my bookings are from non-members so my rating is not a reflection on the amount of bookings I get.

Sorry to say, but what utter bollocks. If you think any man has signed up at £x a month to a website, searched out and agreed to pay you £800 a month is doing it to mentor you. You are barking mad. He is paying you for sex and a bit companionship as well as a bit eye candy on his arms when he is with the lads.
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HalleAstley

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Sorry to say, but what utter bollocks. If you think any man has signed up at £x a month to a website, searched out and agreed to pay you £800 a month is doing it to mentor you. You are barking mad. He is paying you for sex and a bit companionship as well as a bit eye candy on his arms when he is with the lads.

Pure and real sugaring is about an older man paying for a younger woman's time. As he is older he is supposed to mentor and guide her as he is usually experienced and successful. Maybe he pays for some bills/gifts/shopping/uni fees etc. Yes vast majority of the time the man is looking for sex too. But a good relationship between the two is key they're supposed to like eachother.
This in imo is long-winded and hard to find. And I can't be arsed sifting through the many 'splenda-daddys' and fraudsters. Many lie about what they earn.

Escorting is simple, this is my services and this is the rate. There is many negotiation and some feel offended talking about money soon into the relationship. The time spent is vague. Maybe it is a dinner-date one week the other it is a over-night .. and it is all covered in the same allowance.
Pay per meet is frowned upon as it is too close to escorting. Sugar babies are SW but they don't want to hear that.

TL;DR - Its alot of faff for what its worth.

Offline MilleMiglia

"Splenda Daddies" - love it! 

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The point I was making is why does one escort have around 80 positive ratings and the other have 7 despite working for a similar amount of time?

Serious? There’s so many variables for this it’s bordeline absurd my good fellow!

Think about it like this; two girls sign up to adultwork on the same day- one does one thing; the other does entirely differently.. one could be unemployed the other working full time.. one could spend several months working on their page before they feel comfortable starting, the other could start seeing guys that day!

If you are judging a girls rating based on how long they have signed up to the site then I think you’re dithers doing it wrong or looking too deeply into everything.

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Basically fat prossie.

Making last ditch attempt to flog her fanny on here. Duh.  :D

Offline DastardlyDick

Inside London where the cost of living is higher and people are payed a higher wage. SPs will cost more. Outside London.. perhaps up north SPs are cheaper.
From my observations, I'd say the opposite is true - I can get an EE girl for £80 - 100 ph in London, but if I go to leafy Hertfordshire (for example) minimum is £120 ph.

Offline PUNTY43

It seems a fairly simple equation to me. WG's will charge as much as they can get away with, as long as they're still getting enough punters prepared to pay their rate. They may even raise the rate if they're very busy.

Until their volume of business drops to such a degree that they need have a re-think, they'll keep doing this.

They aren't interested in whether it's 'fair', they're trying to make as much money as they possibly can, although the smart ones will have done some market research, looked at the prices of other WG's in their area and the services they provide and base their rates on that.


Offline Paris69

Pure and real sugaring is about an older man paying for a younger woman's time. As he is older he is supposed to mentor and guide her as he is usually experienced and successful. Maybe he pays for some bills/gifts/shopping/uni fees etc. Yes vast majority of the time the man is looking for sex too. But a good relationship between the two is key they're supposed to like eachother.
This in imo is long-winded and hard to find. And I can't be arsed sifting through the many 'splenda-daddys' and fraudsters. Many lie about what they earn.

Escorting is simple, this is my services and this is the rate. There is many negotiation and some feel offended talking about money soon into the relationship. The time spent is vague. Maybe it is a dinner-date one week the other it is a over-night .. and it is all covered in the same allowance.
Pay per meet is frowned upon as it is too close to escorting. Sugar babies are SW but they don't want to hear that.

TL;DR - Its alot of faff for what its worth.

To address some of your comments.....
You're wrong; I (and a pal) pay for sex, via SA. But i also chose a girl who i get on with so that when we go to dinner/shopping i can enjoy her company/patter/sense of humour. Mentoring her? I've tried - with others too. But it never works cos WG's (on or off SA) think they know everything and that they are 'smarter than the average bear' so i now give basic life advice and no more.

As for lying about what one earns: Of course we do. We are not gonna give you chapter and verse about our lives. All you need to know is that we can afford it.
Do we get lied to in return - Ab-so-fucking-lutely. I/we know that.

PPM frowned upon? Really? Not by those who supply it, it's not.

For those who can deliver an excellent arrangement, it's well worth the faff.
It turns into a win-win; but it ain't for every girl.
Some WG's are simply built for being 'Easy Riders'..

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Offline shagmore

I have noticed more and more are now charging £150 in the East Mids area, And its not as if they are stunners by looking at the photos.

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I have noticed more and more are now charging £150 in the East Mids area, And its not as if they are stunners by looking at the photos.
Yep. But are they getting bookings?

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Yep. But are they getting bookings?

Let’s face it, if a prossie has a really dirty dusty old cobwebbed phone, she’s as well charging £190 as £120. She only gets the occasional sucker so she makes it ‘worth her while’ then invests a portion in more P.R. — all within her short ‘working day’ if she manages to get the poor sod to leave a bit early out of disgust.  :crazy: :wacko: