Author Topic: Why do escorts think they are better people than punters?  (Read 26141 times)

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Threatened with serious violence 3 times out of 20 punts? Something's wrong, l haven't been threatened with serious violence 3 times in over 40 years, and that includes punting with streetgirls in some very dodgy areas years ago.

Consider yourself fortunate then, because it's more common than you think.
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Agreed. In far more than 20 punts, I have never experienced the threat of serious violence. Or indeed any violence.

You too.

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I can't think how you could dress up paying for sex as a positive thing, in respect of paying for it. It means simply that if you do that you are not attractive enough to the other person for them to be willing to do it of their free will without financial reward.

Let's see now. Paying for sex means it's clear cut and no 'relationship' emotions involved. You're paying the lady to see you for that hour (or whatever) and then walk away afterwards with nothing more than a smile. No empty promises. On the other side of the coin, you get to walk away knowing that your chosen lady isn't going to go all bunny boiler on you and start phoning you at 3am or demanding you leave your wife/family.

Having disposable income might represent financial success, but if you still have to pay for sex it must mean that you're not held in particularly high regard by the opposite gender. I have to say that guys who have a high income who pay for sex are pretty stupid, or repulsive, or both. I've heard a lot from the providers side on this subject, especially from the upmarket fraternity, and NOTHING I have heard sways me from that view. They may be able to afford it easily, but they certainly ain't winners in the sex game, that's for sure.

Bollox. I refer you to my statement above. ESPECIALLY if you are a 'high flyer' or perhaps a bit of a celeb, or well known in your field. Pulling a woman for casual sex when you could be stung for lots of money in a divorce, the press hounding you, or being outed in your peer group? Better to pay than 'stray'.

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Let's see now. Paying for sex means it's clear cut and no 'relationship' emotions involved. You're paying the lady to see you for that hour (or whatever) and then walk away afterwards with nothing more than a smile. No empty promises. On the other side of the coin, you get to walk away knowing that your chosen lady isn't going to go all bunny boiler on you and start phoning you at 3am or demanding you leave your wife/family.

Bollox. I refer you to my statement above. ESPECIALLY if you are a 'high flyer' or perhaps a bit of a celeb, or well known in your field. Pulling a woman for casual sex when you could be stung for lots of money in a divorce, the press hounding you, or being outed in your peer group? Better to pay than 'stray'.

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Maybe some people pay for sex cos they have to, but most pay for sex cos they can.

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Threatened with serious violence 3 times out of 20 punts? Something's wrong, l haven't been threatened with serious violence 3 times in over 40 years, and that includes punting with streetgirls in some very dodgy areas years ago.

Indeed, i have been threatened a number of times but that is over 30 years not at a ratio of 3 times every 20 punts fortunately. If i had been i would of taken up wanking and pulling as punting would be too dodgy for my liking.

As to punters being saddos, well some no doubt are i imagine, many arent though and i have met many hundreds at parties over the years. From very successful businessmen to Doctors to street cleaners. Guys from every walk of life punt in reality. :hi:

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Maybe I've been lucky but in my 1st 21 punts I've not been in any way threatened with violence, something's not right if you have been threatened 3 times out of 20, I'd give up if that was the case

I ain't a loser either, I just want a shag now and then, the fact I've found myself in a position where I have to pay for it don't make me a loser! If anything I was loser before i discovered this little hobby
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Maybe it is in some respects, but that doesn't get away from the fact that having lost out in the sex game means you have to pay for it to get any. That equals loser I'm afraid.
Oh come on, even Tiger Woods and Wayne Rooney punt. You're saying they do it because they're losers who can't get anyone to sleep with them otherwise? I find that hard to believe... Well, for Tiger Woods anyway, Wayne Rooney looks a bit like a potato.

This may not be the case for some people, but generally punting is about being able to get what you want, when you want, without hassle. If I punt, I can just pick up the phone and have two gorgeous girls come blow me that evening. With the exception of the likes of Justin Bieber and Robert Pattinson, I'm pretty sure there are no guys in the general population who can do this without money changing hands. Does that make every guy a loser? If so then we're all losers whether we punt or not.

Punting, I don't have the same hassles and pressures as every other guy I know faces in having to constantly find girls, prove themselves, be careful about how they dress, what they say, or whatever other hoops they feel they need to jump through to get laid. Does any guy who does this and never punts feel happier than me? Somehow I doubt it. I'm able to have my more primal urges satisfied very easily, and can get on without hassle.
People outside of punting probably would see me as a loser, but I certainly don't feel like I'm the one worse off here.

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I thought that Jack Nichoson said this first, bit just googled it and supposedly Charlie Sheen said it as well..

At sentencing for involvement with a hooker the judge asked him why a man like himself would have to pay for sex, he responded, “I don’t pay them for sex. I pay them to leave.”

Well, whoever, said it first, I love this quote.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Threatened with serious violence 3 times out of 20 punts? Something's wrong, l haven't been threatened with serious violence 3 times in over 40 years, and that includes punting with streetgirls in some very dodgy areas years ago.

The only threats I have received in well over 30 years have come from the police ---- in my street punting days, never suffered any violence and we are talking about hundreds and hundreds of punts.

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There are a few people who post on forums who are rather deluded.

I can't think how you could dress up paying for sex as a positive thing, in respect of paying for it. It means simply that if you do that you are not attractive enough to the other person for them to be willing to do it of their free will without financial reward.

Having disposable income might represent financial success, but if you still have to pay for sex it must mean that you're not held in particularly high regard by the opposite gender. I have to say that guys who have a high income who pay for sex are pretty stupid, or repulsive, or both. I've heard a lot from the providers side on this subject, especially from the upmarket fraternity, and NOTHING I have heard sways me from that view. They may be able to afford it easily, but they certainly ain't winners in the sex game, that's for sure.

There seem to be lots of guys on here who pat each other on the back saying what a great thing it is that they are all doing. Maybe it is in some respects, but that doesn't get away from the fact that having lost out in the sex game means you have to pay for it to get any. That equals loser I'm afraid. Those that are married or have partners and do it - well there's something that smacks of loser there as well.

I'm simply saying how it is, because I am realistic about it.

What absolute nonsense. I think it's clear that you're the loser, and are unable to see it from somebody else's point of view. That's not being a realist.

I punt because, being in a relationship, it's far less risky than pursuing casual sex in other ways. It's also far easier, and particularly when you want to engage in kinks such as filming.

Another common reason I find that guys punt is that they're much older than the girls they want to fuck. Can a 60 year old really be expected to pull an 18 year old? And be deemed a loser if they can't? Bollocks.

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Another common reason I find that guys punt is that they're much older than the girls they want to fuck. Can a 60 year old really be expected to pull an 18 year old? And be deemed a loser if they can't? Bollocks.

Yes, exactly ------------------ and what about the film stars and politicians that have been caught paying for sex, are they deemed losers, surely not.   

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I punt because, being in a relationship, it's far less risky than pursuing casual sex in other ways. It's also far easier, and particularly when you want to engage in kinks such as filming.

I agree, there's more to paying for sex than just becoming older and undesirable to girls.
I also punt because it's easier and safer than a regular girlfriend!
I see who I want when I want with no ties and no one chasing me to see them again.
It's got nothing to do with being 'not held in particularly high regard by the opposite gender.'

See post overhead (pun intended)
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Looking through the SAAFE forum it is obvious that escorts look down their noses at punters. The majority of threads there turn into a punter bashing thread. Would it be so hard for escorts to have a bit of respect for the customers who help them pay their bills?

Because women.


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Looking through the SAAFE forum it is obvious that escorts look down their noses at punters. The majority of threads there turn into a punter bashing thread. Would it be so hard for escorts to have a bit of respect for the customers who help them pay their bills?

Most of the bad threads there are not about punters but timewasters pretending to be punters for instance the how not to book an escort thread.  Most of those guys have never and will never actually book a prossie.

There are some on there that do hate their clients and they hate the job as well but no everyone on there does.  Some people are there but don't post all the time as they are only there to offer advice when it is needed and asked for.
Some members don't post on the ; How not to book an escort thread' as they find it quite disgusting and also pointless.

I am a member here and there and there is as many on saafe that think all punters here hate prossies due to a minority of posters whos posts are always putting them down same as some here think everyone on safe hates all their clients due to the few on there that post the most and its all about how horrible their clients are.

I see it as those who like to moan about others tend to post the most often and the most spitefully whilst those who have a healthy appreciation of the other side tend to post now and then and only when needed or if they have something to say

To state it is obvious that prossies look down their noses at punters and we don't respect them is the same as if I said every punter looks down on prossies and has no respect for us at all as I read some posts on here that were about how we are all stupid or too thick to have a real job or liars or thieves etc .  Its stupid.  You cannot take the posts of a couple of people and tar everyone as thinking or feeling the same way.

I and a couple of friends of mine (I cant speak for others as I don't know them) have a very healthy respect for the majority of our clients and enjoy their company and I personally would miss some of them if they stopped visiting and not the money as that can easily be picked up from the next punter but them as people.,  Put simply some people enjoy their job and some don't and those that don't tend to be the ones who always slate punters as it somehow makes them feel better

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Hello,

I've been lurking around these boards for a while but saw this thread and had to have my 2 cents lol.

I am a prossy I regularly contribute to the saafe board. Of course there are prossies that think they are better then their punters. They are only human there are plenty of punters that come across that they think they are better than prossies to. Again this is because they are only human too. There are people all over the place with inflated egos!

I can only speak for myself on this subject and say that I have complete respect for my clients. They are spending a lot of money to be with me and to show disrespect to these people will not only be counter productive but also lead to me hating my job. I am not in this business to make people feel like crap I'm in it to make them feel great.

Maybe it depends on why girls get into this line of work. Perhaps some of them cannot be arsed to do "a proper job" in which case more power to them everyone has to make a living. Some girls see pound signs whenever they get an appointment. For me it is just something I've always wanted to do (which some people cannot get their heads round) I left a great but stressful job to do this and I'm earning a lot less than before but I'm happier and I spend my day hopefully improving peoples days rather than ruining them like before

With alot of the guys I speak to I often direct them to this forum as I think it's important that they are aware of the scams and dangers that punters face also.

The thing is that saafe is for escorts to give each other advice and vent their frustrations which is completely necessary when a lot of girls have no one else to talk to. If you dont like what is being said on the boards and find it offensive then maybe you shouldn't read them. Just as girls that find some of the threads here offensive really should just stop reading them. You have a choice in this situation.

Right thats the end of me sticking my head in this forum! lol HAPPY PUNTING!




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With regards punters being sad cases: does anyone remember the "dirty mac brigade" that used to watch pornography in cinemas, if you class Confession of a window cleaner as that - now everyone and their dog watches porn. With regards punting and the paid sex scene, I think attitudes are changing I know some will think of men who pay for sex as "sad twats", "pervy weirdoes" or "desperate virgin nerds" - to name a few stereotypes, but anyone with half a brain knows that anyone can be a punter. What is sadder punting or rushing into marriage to lose one's virginity or having a fight with some man in a pub because you can't pull? I would say the latter.

I have heard people say "at least I don't have to pay for sex". I would say using manipulation and mindgames to get sex as worse, or entering a pointless relationship to get sex. There's arguably more honesty in punting.

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With regards punters being sad cases: does anyone remember the "dirty mac brigade" that used to watch pornography in cinemas, if you class Confession of a window cleaner as that - now everyone and their dog watches porn. With regards punting and the paid sex scene, I think attitudes are changing I know some will think of men who pay for sex as "sad twats", "pervy weirdoes" or "desperate virgin nerds" - to name a few stereotypes, but anyone with half a brain knows that anyone can be a punter. What is sadder punting or rushing into marriage to lose one's virginity or having a fight with some man in a pub because you can't pull? I would say the latter.

I have heard people say "at least I don't have to pay for sex". I would say using manipulation and mindgames to get sex as worse, or entering a pointless relationship to get sex. There's arguably more honesty in punting.

Christ yes! The Edinburgh boys may be old enough to remember the Jacy in Princes street. Constant porn! We used to sneak in as young teenagers. There were old guys in macs wanking all over the shop.

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I dont know that fights are caused by not getting laid as you stated as an  example but i think without escorts there would be a lot more rapes going on.Thats my opinion not fact.

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Christ yes! The Edinburgh boys may be old enough to remember the Jacy in Princes street. Constant porn! We used to sneak in as young teenagers. There were old guys in macs wanking all over the shop.

 :vomit: if i could not get it for free rather punt with an escort, sorry for the poor sod who's got to clean up afterwards.

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I dont know that fights are caused by not getting laid as you stated as an  example but i think without escorts there would be a lot more rapes going on.Thats my opinion not fact.

Rape isn't about the sex. Are you suggesting that otherwise 'normal' guys would become rapists if they weren't getting their legover whenever they wanted?

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Rape isn't about the sex. Are you suggesting that otherwise 'normal' guys would become rapists if they weren't getting their legover whenever they wanted?

that was a general statement, No i am not saying that all normal guy's would, but define a normal guy. Rapes about many things including sex.

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I dont know that fights are caused by not getting laid as you stated as an  example but i think without escorts there would be a lot more rapes going on.Thats my opinion not fact.

No there would not.  Men who don't get sex don't suddenly turn into rapists.  Rape is not about sex in most cases but about power and control and sometimes being able to humiliate and abuse which again comes down to power and control. 

Rapists don't book escorts as they know that they would not have the control or power they need.  So how would we end up with more rapists??? 
Perhaps I think more of the male species than you do but I like to think that most men have enough self control to not have to rape just for sex especially since they have a hand to relieve any urges they may have.  Only those with mental health issues choose to rape people and the majority of escorts would avoid anyone who came across that way.

Sorry but your statement is utter bollocks

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No there would not.  Men who don't get sex don't suddenly turn into rapists.  Rape is not about sex in most cases but about power and control and sometimes being able to humiliate and abuse which again comes down to power and control. 

Rapists don't book escorts as they know that they would not have the control or power they need.  So how would we end up with more rapists??? 
Perhaps I think more of the male species than you do but I like to think that most men have enough self control to not have to rape just for sex especially since they have a hand to relieve any urges they may have.  Only those with mental health issues choose to rape people and the majority of escorts would avoid anyone who came across that way.

Sorry but your statement is utter bollocks

+1. Saved me writing a reply as you said it all :)

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No there would not.  Men who don't get sex don't suddenly turn into rapists.  Rape is not about sex in most cases but about power and control and sometimes being able to humiliate and abuse which again comes down to power and control. 

Rapists don't book escorts as they know that they would not have the control or power they need.  So how would we end up with more rapists??? 
Perhaps I think more of the male species than you do but I like to think that most men have enough self control to not have to rape just for sex especially since they have a hand to relieve any urges they may have.  Only those with mental health issues choose to rape people and the majority of escorts would avoid anyone who came across that way.

Sorry but your statement is utter bollocks

sorry some of that is bollocks, i not saying a rapist would book an escort, listen you deprive most blokes of sex and see what happens than come back to me.The reason why most blokes dont rape is because they have morals and conscience, thats the only reason.

Again ladies tell me what defines a normal male?

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sorry some of that is bollocks, i not saying a rapist would book an escort, listen you deprive most blokes of sex and see what happens than come back to me.The reason why most blokes dont rape is because they have morals and conscience, thats the only reason.

Again ladies tell me what defines a normal male?

You must know some proper neanderthals "ug, me man, me want sex, me take sex".

I am glad to say that probably 99% of men that I know personally (ie: not through whoring) don't have a rapey bone in their bodies, and even if you removed "morals and conscience", they still wouldn't rape.

"normal" (note I put it in inverted commas both times) = non-rapey

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You must know some proper neanderthals "ug, me man, me want sex, me take sex".

I am glad to say that probably 99% of men that I know personally (ie: not through whoring) don't have a rapey bone in their bodies, and even if you removed "morals and conscience", they still wouldn't rape.

"normal" (note I put it in inverted commas both times) = non-rapey

I agree with you but it's not just morals and conscience. Add in the law. A healthy respect for the law and a fear of incarceration keeps us all in check. I'm not just talking rape here but all crimes.

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Morals and Conscience are part of being human. So there is no taking away morals and conscience in this discussion. Men did not go away raping before the introducing of the Police.

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I agree with you but it's not just morals and conscience. Add in the law. A healthy respect for the law and a fear of incarceration keeps us all in check. I'm not just talking rape here but all crimes.

Very true, which is why the riots of 2011 got out of hand, the scum thought that law and order had broken down so decided to go on looting sprees, thankfully many came unstuck due to CCTV.

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You must know some proper neanderthals "ug, me man, me want sex, me take sex".

I am glad to say that probably 99% of men that I know personally (ie: not through whoring) don't have a rapey bone in their bodies, and even if you removed "morals and conscience", they still wouldn't rape.

"normal" (note I put it in inverted commas both times) = non-rapey

Just like i did with my general statement, you presuming alot with your statement of  You must know some proper neanderthals

Sorry but why ?pick on the neanderthals, they were as intelligent as cro magnon man i.e modern humans.

so if you remove morals and conscience than you only have the law stopping them than.

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sorry some of that is bollocks, i not saying a rapist would book an escort, listen you deprive most blokes of sex and see what happens than come back to me.The reason why most blokes dont rape is because they have morals and conscience, thats the only reason.

Again ladies tell me what defines a normal male?

Perhaps you think this as you would rape someone if you couldn't buy sex but I can bet now that 99.9% of the other men on this forum would not regardless of conscience or morals.   
Most wouldn't do it out of respect for a woman and not wanting to force or hurt another person.
Even if it is conscience or morals most people have them so if there were no prossies they still wouldn't rape a woman. 

Your point was there would be more rapes if there were no prossies.  You didn't say if everyone also lost all morals and conscience and basic humanity.  You were stating that more men would rape women in no prossies were around which I said is utter bollocks. 

As for what is a normal male it would be the same as a normal female I would guess if we are talking about the above situation.  Someone without severe mental health problems that cause them to want to hurt other people.

Rapist are not normal healthy men who cant get sex so decide to physically restrain, beat and abuse women, they are normally men with mental health issues concerning lack of control in their lives, feeling small and weak around women (mother complex) or who gain great pleasure from having thtat type of power.  They are not everyday men who cannot get sex

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so if you remove morals and conscience than you only have the law stopping them than.

No you also have common decency and respect for other humans.  Also the fact that most men would not want to harm a woman in that way. They would not even enjoy sex with someone who was either terrified or screaming and crying to get away.  Only a seriously deranged mind would think that most men would rape.  I may get banned for saying this but I think you sir have serious mental health issues yourself if you think that most men would rape as we normally think things from how we would do it.

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No you also have common decency and respect for other humans.  Also the fact that most men would not want to harm a woman in that way. They would not even enjoy sex with someone who was either terrified or screaming and crying to get away.  Only a seriously deranged mind would think that most men would rape.  I may get banned for saying this but I think you sir have serious mental health issues yourself if you think that most men would rape as we normally think things from how we would do it.

Again your talking bollocks you dont know me and have i insulted you? no ,sorry but may be you have been selling your self for too long. i am not saying that most men would rape, your putting words in my mouth.

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Morals and Conscience are part of being human. So there is no taking away morals and conscience in this discussion. Men did not go away raping before the introducing of the Police.

A proper police force didn't evolve until the seventeenth century. I'm talking about the law in whatever shape or form it's enforced. You can bet your boots rape was a common occurence along with murder before there was any real fear of punishment.

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Ok so not most men but a lot more.  Still the same.  I am not insulting you I am just stating that normally posts we make about what we think are based on ourselves and what we would or would not do.  You seem to be very insistant that there would be more rapes if prossies were not available

Perhaps I just think men are better than that and wouldn't want to hurt another person and force them into sex.  Perhaps I am wrong and a lot of men are potential rapists as they just cannot control the urge (you are a man so would know better than me if you can control it or not) but I prefer to believe that men are just not that shallow or sadistic and would not want to hurt another person just for sexual gratification.

Perhaps you should try and read up on the psychology of rapists and you might then understand normal men don't even think about it.  It is those who are mentally ill in some way that do.  Normal men can control themselves as sex is just a pleasure not a need that they would die without like food water and air.  Its just a fun pleasure.  I am gobsmacked that you as a man can think any normal men are that disgusting

Maybe I wear rose tinted spectacles by expecting men not to be closet bloody rapists but I damn well hope not. 

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A proper police force didn't evolve until the seventeenth century. I'm talking about the law in whatever shape or form it's enforced. You can bet your boots rape was a common occurence along with murder before there was any real fear of punishment.

perhaps but humanity has come along way since then I hope.  Even without law I would hope that the majority of men would not feel the ned to hurt and abuse a woman just for fun as I would think most men would be sickened by it.  Like I said perhaps it is just me and I hold men in too high a regard and they are all just rapists underneath but I pray to God I am right in my views and most men are too respectful to even consider it

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Ok so not most men but a lot more.  Still the same.  I am not insulting you I am just stating that normally posts we make about what we think are based on ourselves and what we would or would not do.  You seem to be very insistant that there would be more rapes if prossies were not available

Perhaps I just think men are better than that and wouldn't want to hurt another person and force them into sex.  Perhaps I am wrong and a lot of men are potential rapists as they just cannot control the urge (you are a man so would know better than me if you can control it or not) but I prefer to believe that men are just not that shallow or sadistic and would not want to hurt another person just for sexual gratification.

Perhaps you should try and read up on the psychology of rapists and you might then understand normal men don't even think about it.  It is those who are mentally ill in some way that do.  Normal men can control themselves as sex is just a pleasure not a need that they would die without like food water and air.  Its just a fun pleasure.  I am gobsmacked that you as a man can think any normal men are that disgusting

Maybe I wear rose tinted spectacles by expecting men not to be closet bloody rapists but I damn well hope not.

well you are by what you imply about me in the previous post, its a product of the 21st century, of its a fun pleasure, your talking like sex is the equivalent of watching tv,why is it than that some blokes and escorts get so attach to each other?

So why do some normal men masturbate? is it just because its fun? there is no sexual urge than? no frustration?

Why do some otherwise normal men stab, shoot? kill?

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perhaps but humanity has come along way since then I hope.  Even without law I would hope that the majority of men would not feel the ned to hurt and abuse a woman just for fun as I would think most men would be sickened by it.  Like I said perhaps it is just me and I hold men in too high a regard and they are all just rapists underneath but I pray to God I am right in my views and most men are too respectful to even consider it

No you're right Dani and I agree with you. My comments about the law were aimed at BristolP. We have all evolved and the vast majority of men have a sense of common decency. However underneath it all we are just a species of animal held together by community values and a sense of not doing what we wouldn't want done to us. Look at scenarios though where law breaks down.....war for instance, rape is used as a weapon. Japan, Bosnia, Bangladesh.

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well you are by what you imply about me in the previous post, its a product of the 21st century, of its a fun pleasure, your talking like sex is the equivalent of watching tv,why is it than that some blokes and escorts get so attach to each other?

So why do some normal men masturbate? is it just because its fun? there is no sexual urge than? no frustration?

Why do some otherwise normal men stab, shoot? kill?

I don't follow this bit "its a product of the 21st century" - what is?

Most normal men play with their cock cos it's there and it feels nice.

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.....war for instance, rape is used as a weapon.

Control. Very good example.

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I don't follow this bit "its a product of the 21st century" - what is?

Most normal men play with their cock cos it's there and it feels nice.
its a product of the 21st century that sex is just pleasurable fun that there is no consequences involved.

play with their cock cos it's there and it feels nice, also men have a nose , toes etc they are there also.

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its a product of the 21st century that sex is just pleasurable fun that there is no consequences involved.

Sorry but PMSL! Sex as pleasurable fun has been its driving force since the beginning of time, hence why we still have a population! If it was mundane, or as *meh* as eating a cress sandwich, we wouldn't want to do it so often if at all, and humans would have died out long before they'd got established.

play with their cock cos it's there and it feels nice, also men have a nose , toes etc they are there also.

If noses and toes twitched when you looked at a pretty girl, or got hard in the morning, or throbbed when you watched porn, you'd be playing with them too.

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Sorry but PMSL! Sex as pleasurable fun has been its driving force since the beginning of time, hence why we still have a population! If it was mundane, or as *meh* as eating a cress sandwich, we wouldn't want to do it so often if at all, and humans would have died out long before they'd got established.

If noses and toes twitched when you looked at a pretty girl, or got hard in the morning, or throbbed when you watched porn, you'd be playing with them too.

PMSL hope you dont wet yourself.

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I pray to God I am right in my views and most men are too respectful to even consider it

And your faith is not misplaced ... this punk nutjob is just talking rubbish, as usual.

Before discovering punting, I was a normal guy (by your definition) who went for long periods of time without sex as a result of not being in a relationship due to work commitments.
Leaving aside the rape nonsense ... not once have I ever manipulated a girl into shagging me if she was reluctant to do so in the first place, both during those times and throughout my whole life.

Edit: So, there ... consider that a small reward for the trust you've placed in us normal men so far, and I hope it'll serve to further strengthen your convictions should you ever need it.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2013, 10:04:06 pm by NightKid »

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I can only speak for myself, but there is no way I would even consider raping anyone. Like RPG  I have gone many long periods without sex and  the thought has never even entered my head. As someone who only derives real pleasure if the lady is showing pleasure too then there is no way it would be remotely pleasurable to me.

As Dani suggests rape is usually not sex anyway but power and control.

Having said all this there is probably a tiny percentage of men who may rape if they couldn't pay for sex, but I would think the number is  infinitesimal.

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Ok so not most men but a lot more.  Still the same.  I am not insulting you I am just stating that normally posts we make about what we think are based on ourselves and what we would or would not do.  You seem to be very insistant that there would be more rapes if prossies were not available

Perhaps I just think men are better than that and wouldn't want to hurt another person and force them into sex.   Perhaps I am wrong and a lot of men are potential rapists as they just cannot control the urge (you are a man so would know better than me if you can control it or not) but I prefer to believe that men are just not that shallow or sadistic and would not want to hurt another person just for sexual gratification.

Perhaps you should try and read up on the psychology of rapists and you might then understand normal men don't even think about it.  It is those who are mentally ill in some way that do.  Normal men can control themselves as sex is just a pleasure not a need that they would die without like food water and air.  Its just a fun pleasure.  I am gobsmacked that you as a man can think any normal men are that disgusting

Maybe I wear rose tinted spectacles by expecting men not to be closet bloody rapists but I damn well hope not.

I think, and certainly hope, you are right here.  ;)

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Rapist are not normal healthy men who cant get sex so decide to physically restrain, beat and abuse women, they are normally men with mental health issues concerning lack of control in their lives, feeling small and weak around women (mother complex) or who gain great pleasure from having thtat type of power.  They are not everyday men who cannot get sex

Dani makes a very good point here, about Mother, Father or even Sister Complex. This could be the main catalyst for why we punt or why some might enjoy domination or why some might like to be in total control of the punt. My mum is very easy, doesn't give me any hassle. I find that the very domineering prossies, stick in my head more. I love it when a prossie grabs hold of my head, wraps her legs round my neck when I'm giving her oral - like she's forcing me to do it. I like prossies giving me pain, ball squeezing, spanking, biting, etc. If the prossie doesn't have a domineering personality, I take total control and tell them exactly what I want.

I don't think prossies think they are better than punters. Well, how can they when they suck dick, rent their pussy for a living?! They probably think they are sexual superior compared to punters (which they are) and they are in control, they tell you when it's times up (when there is 5 minutes remaining), don't do this or don't do that (especially when it's something you enjoy). Do you ever sense that a prossie feels like she's got one up on you? - by not working as hard or when a prossie goes cold when she feels she's given you too much and resents you?

Interesting topic - Let's move on from rape, keep on topic.
 

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Interesting topic - Let's move on from rape, keep on topic.
 

Yes agree

I have found that WG's that have an attitude towards me as a punter have many issues they struggle with, so deflect from them.

Read some of the pro$$ie posts on PN, always the fault of the punter.