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Offline tightfoot69

Looking through the SAAFE forum it is obvious that escorts look down their noses at punters. The majority of threads there turn into a punter bashing thread. Would it be so hard for escorts to have a bit of respect for the customers who help them pay their bills?

KingCharming

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Have looked on SAAFE a few times and know what you mean, though I don't think it's only a WG thing. Have you ever heard groups of girls gossiping? They'll say similar things about boyfriends and men in general.

lovelysofia92

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I'm not very familiar with Saafe but my guess would be that it's a place for them to vent and let out a build up of frustration. Also, not all punters out there are nice and respectful and I can see how some of them feel that way about SOME punters. But I see your point of view too, there seem to be some escorts that have become very, very bitter and mean and have no respect towards punters and that is not OK.

The way I see it, there are good and bad escorts and the same way with punters; nice and respectful but also some pretty rude ones. It really is an equivalent of punters forums such as UKP, where you can encounter a similar attitude towards escorts sometimes.

Plus, a bunch a girls chit chatting, you always end up exaggerating and taking things out of proportion.


Offline jsparky

The same things can be said about some punters: why do punters think they are better people than escorts?

Nuff said.

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Hehehe what a laugh! Can you blame them when punters pee in their mouth or when they get poo on their fingers?  :lol:

Offline UltrasForLife

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Some punters are simply disgusting  :vomit: Its not so easy to be a WG but at least it pays nice and there are decent punters too :) But yeah, if you fail to respect yourself, one wouldn't expect from you to respect a WG...

Offline punk

Because a lot of them think your sad because you have to pay for sex. :hi:

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There is good and bad on both sides. However, if it's a 50/50 situation between the punter or a prossy, l'm backing the punter.

Offline UltrasForLife

Because a lot of them think your sad because you have to pay for sex. :hi:

It is a bit sad in a certain aspect but for me it's even sadder that you get fucked for a living cause you cant be arsed to work towards a proper career. Just about evens out I say.

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Hehehe what a laugh! Can you blame them when punters pee in their mouth or when they get poo on their fingers?  :lol:

I'm reading these now, too. Ha ha.

I have actually been pooed on by an escort. It was everywhere - had to open a window, it was that bad.

A different girl also left skidmarks everywhere on the bed. I noticed halfway through, and didn't say anything. Nice girl, but she's put me off her completely.

Both girls were English (and premium prices), before anyone else asks.

Offline wristjob

I'm not overly familiar with saafe but I'd guess it's like any forum - the people who go there regularly are probably more grizzled and bitter than the average. You get it on here too, some people are incredibly harsh to WGs


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I only read about 6 posts but ew!!!! Do any amount of punting and you are going to have bad experiences. Even with the best WG in the world there will be times when things genuinely don't click.  Sadly a lot of WGs are less than brilliant - and so are a lot of clients by the look of it.  To be honest a bad client seems a lot worse than a bad girl.

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I'm reading these now, too. Ha ha.

I have actually been pooed on by an escort. It was everywhere - had to open a window, it was that bad.

A different girl also left skidmarks everywhere on the bed. I noticed halfway through, and didn't say anything. Nice girl, but she's put me off her completely.

Both girls were English (and premium prices), before anyone else asks.

This has got to be time for a link :)  Just to know who.

lovelysofia92

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I'm reading these now, too. Ha ha.

I have actually been pooed on by an escort. It was everywhere - had to open a window, it was that bad.

A different girl also left skidmarks everywhere on the bed. I noticed halfway through, and didn't say anything. Nice girl, but she's put me off her completely.

Both girls were English (and premium prices), before anyone else asks.

I imagine you were involved in anal activities... They're quite risky I hear  :vomit:
You would think that wgs that offer anal would douche before.

Offline punk

It is a bit sad in a certain aspect but for me it's even sadder that you get fucked for a living cause you cant be arsed to work towards a proper career. Just about evens out I say.

True it does not occur to them that you just fancy a shag and its as easy as picking up a pint without the hassle

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True it does not occur to them that you just fancy a shag and its as easy as picking up a pint without the hassle

I had this debate with Adele Bella. 

You aren't paying for sex - you are paying to get your hands on EXACTLY what you feel in the mood for! 

Very different to paying cause you can't get laid.

Goofy85

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I imagine you were involved in anal activities... They're quite risky I hear  :vomit:
You would think that wgs that offer anal would douche before.

The first time, I was. It was the first time I'd ever tried it. Never again!  :vomit:

The second time, nope. I got there on time, but she kept me waiting 15 mins outside the hotel. I figured it was because she'd just come out of the shower, or was still doing her hair, or something. I now think she was doing a poo. Ugh.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2013, 11:06:45 pm by Goofy85 »

Offline punk

I had this debate with Adele Bella. 

You aren't paying for sex - you are paying to get your hands on EXACTLY what you feel in the mood for! 

Very different to paying cause you can't get laid.

True 100%

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I had this debate with Adele Bella. 

You aren't paying for sex - you are paying to get your hands on EXACTLY what you feel in the mood for! 

Very different to paying cause you can't get laid.
There's some truth in paying for the convenience. It's not difficult to pay for sex, it's difficult to find someone that meets your requirements and does them/it well.

Offline wristjob

I think a lot of it is social attitudes, and as much as you know better they do tend to stick.

30 years ago the average punter was painted as billy no mates sad twat trainspotter no woman would go near. The average girl was some shameless slag.... Both equally sad.

Women's libbers might criticise page 3 but that sort of thing has made women doing any of this kind of work much more socially acceptable. A while back I read that being a prostitute was an aspirational career for young girls in Russia - and I can imagine in 20 years it really won't be hidden here.

I don't think there's been any such change in attitudes for guys. In other countries it's more socially acceptible but not here.

Actually just had a thought - I bet WGs on average tell more of their mates what they do than punters.

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The first time, I was. It was the first time I'd ever tried it. Never again!  :vomit:

The second time, nope. I got there on time, but she kept me waiting 15 mins outside the hotel. I figured it was because she'd just come out of the shower, or was still doing her hair, or something. I now think she was doing a poo. Ugh.

That's the point - your gf would say she was not in the mood; a WG has no choice, unless she stops working because she's off colour or got the runs etc.  Does that mean you're going to get 100% pure GFE regardless?

Reading saafe, one thing that surprises me is how it's often described as "running a business" - as though it's another branch of today's modern, independent woman, following the World's Oldest Profession.  I would personally never look down on a WG just for being one though, just admitting you need a shag is pretty humbling!

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... you are paying to get your hands on EXACTLY what you feel in the mood for!
  Yes, or what you have been "in the mood for " for 35 years, and only just realised that's what it was!  :crazy:

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That's the point - your gf would say she was not in the mood; a WG has no choice, unless she stops working because she's off colour or got the runs etc.  Does that mean you're going to get 100% pure GFE regardless?


I would have been quite happy for the first girl to decline 'A level' if she wasn't ready. And if the second girl wanted more time to have a shower, I would have been happier with a clean girl than one with skid marks. Being clean is the minimum requirement.

Offline wristjob

Reading saafe, one thing that surprises me is how it's often described as "running a business" - as though it's another branch of today's modern, independent woman, following the World's Oldest Profession. 

just admitting you need a shag is pretty humbling!
  Yes, or what you have been "in the mood for " for 35 years, and only just realised that's what it was!  :crazy:

I wouldn't really class a WG as running a business as such - but then I wouldn't count a builder/florist etc as a business. if you are the product then it's a job, if you can be replaced by someone else and there's still profit to be had it's a business. Pimps run businesses :)

As for needing a shag - cobblers. nobody needs a shag. It's about wanting a shag, and wanting either variety of girls or specific type of girls, or specific services. Nobody needs to go to an expensive restaurant but sometimes they just want a treat and the same with women.

Offline what-a man

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After reading the thread on saafe, I would have done the same if I had to put up with filthy dirty men who cant take care of their hygiene.

Offline NIK

After reading the thread on saafe, I would have done the same if I had to put up with filthy dirty men who cant take care of their hygiene.

Don't believe all you read on there.  :rolleyes:

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Don't believe all you read on there.  :rolleyes:

Or on here, or on any other internet forum.

Offline NIK

Because a lot of them think your sad because you have to pay for sex. :hi:

So they're not sad having to suck strangers' cocks for a living?

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Looking through the SAAFE forum it is obvious that escorts look down their noses at punters.

Pro$$ies are often very insecure as society shuns then, they love to try and feel superior and Cortezans look down on independants, and independants look down on parlour girls and they in turn look down on streetgirls, the reality is they are all pro$$ies the only difference is where they shag.

A lot of pro$$ies also despise punters as they rely on them and they begrudge this, it reminds them that if it wasn't for these men paying them for sex they would be stacking shelves for £6 an hour.

And of course Safe is an extreme example as it is populated by the older / less popular / washed up pro$$ies who are also unhappy with punters as they don't pick them and spend their money elsewhere  :hi:

Offline Jimmyredcab

The same things can be said about some punters: why do punters think they are better people than escorts?

Nuff said.

Just out of interest. are you a prostitute or a pimp.    :unknown:

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And of course Safe is an extreme example as it is populated by the older / less popular / washed up pro$$ies who are also unhappy with punters as they don't pick them and spend their money elsewhere  :hi:

I think that is a very valid point, fit, young pro$$ies would not waste their time on Saafe ------------ they don't even give good advice, girls will learn far more on here.

Offline NIK

Just out of interest. are you a prostitute or a pimp.    :unknown:

Could be a fluffy!  :D

Timo

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Could be a fluffy!  :D

Or he may be a pimp who has turned fluffy :lol:

Offline smiths

Looking through the SAAFE forum it is obvious that escorts look down their noses at punters. The majority of threads there turn into a punter bashing thread. Would it be so hard for escorts to have a bit of respect for the customers who help them pay their bills?

Its some, who knows how many WGs that hold such views. Just as not every punter reads this forum the same will be the case with SAAFE of course.

Good WGs who offer me a good service is all i am concerned with, what they might think of me is their business, just like anyone i do business with outside punting. As long as it doesnt affect my punt i am not bothered.

Offline punk

So they're not sad having to suck strangers' cocks for a living?

seems it pays well

overhead

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I'm not very familiar with Saafe but my guess would be that it's a place for them to vent and let out a build up of frustration. Also, not all punters out there are nice and respectful and I can see how some of them feel that way about SOME punters. But I see your point of view too, there seem to be some escorts that have become very, very bitter and mean and have no respect towards punters and that is not OK.

The way I see it, there are good and bad escorts and the same way with punters; nice and respectful but also some pretty rude ones. It really is an equivalent of punters forums such as UKP, where you can encounter a similar attitude towards escorts sometimes.

Plus, a bunch a girls chit chatting, you always end up exaggerating and taking things out of proportion.

I've come to the conclusion over the past year or so that the majority of escorts hate the clients that visit them, and the majority of clients hate the escorts. By majority I mean more than half. Not all of course. And by hate I really mean hate in some cases, ranging from hearty dislike to real hatred. I always keep a fairly open mind, but I have met some escorts who are quite vicious and nasty, for no apparent reason. I guess there are a lot of punters just the same.

Yet they can't live without each other - bizarre isn't it.

overhead

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I think the answer to the title of the thread is that the vast majority of punters are losers. (yes I am aware I am also including myself in thisgroup, but one has to be realistic)

A lot of the escorts are losers too, but at least they are laughing their way to the bank. So no wonder they think they are better.

Offline tomato sauce and waffles

what they might think of me is their business...As long as it doesnt affect my punt i am not bothered.

I like Smith's attitude here.

I try not to be concerned with what a WG thinks about me before and after I punt her. It just spoils things if you're worrying about whether a WG thinks you're loser for paying for sex. After all you're paying for the sex, not to woe her like you have to do a civvie woman.

When WGs ask me what I do, I just tell them I'm a student, studying a shitty degree and I using my student loan money to punt.  :hi: Yeah, it makes me look like a complete fucking pleb, but I leave the showing off for when I meet a civvie women, who I actually want to start a relationship.

Offline akauya

I think people tend to overthink this punter/prossie relationshit too much. We are buying a service, as long as that service is given to our satisfaction should we really worry or care what the prossie thinks? She's happy she got your business, you're happy you received a good service. God knows what service providers think about their customers (and I'm not talking about prossies only). As long as the business transaction has been consummated to everyone's satisfaction there will be further repeats whatever the true feelings of the participants. We must remember we are not going on a date are we?

Personally if I were to worry about what a WG really thinks about me I probably wouldn't even get a hardon since I punt young hotties and I don't really look like an Adonis (actually I never did). But I don't worry about that. The appeal I bring to the meeting is my hard earned.

Likewise if prossies worry too much about what a punter thinks of her she probably won't be in a right mind to offer a good service. I'm sure good prossies give great service whatever their true feelings even though (I can imagine) some of them might be horrified at the look, and more often than not hygiene standards of some punters.


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I think people tend to overthink this punter/prossie relationshit too much. We are buying a service, as long as that service is given to our satisfaction should we really worry or care what the prossie thinks? She's happy she got your business, you're happy you received a good service. God knows what service providers think about their customers (and I'm not talking about prossies only). As long as the business transaction has been consummated to everyone's satisfaction there will be further repeats whatever the true feelings of the participants. We must remember we are not going on a date are we?

Personally if I were to worry about what a WG really thinks about me I probably wouldn't even get a hardon since I punt young hotties and I don't really look like an Adonis (actually I never did). But I don't worry about that. The appeal I bring to the meeting is my hard earned.

Likewise if prossies worry too much about what a punter thinks of her she probably won't be in a right mind to offer a good service. I'm sure good prossies give great service whatever their true feelings even though (I can imagine) some of them might be horrified at the look, and more often than not hygiene standards of some punters.

It's all very well you saying that, but if you're not careful you can easily get conned, ripped off, whatever. I've done about 20 bookings in the last year, and only one has turned to be of a standard that I'd want to go back. The hatred on the prozzie side runs so deep sometimes that they think nothing of pulling truely outrageous cons. I've been threatened with serious violence on three of those occasions, and it doesn't matter how well prepared you are, you can't do much when you're grossly outnumbered. They promise you a lot and plan it well and it's so easy to slip up. I think the classic one that happened to me was the really friendly girl who literally disappeared as soon as I parted with money. Only to be replaced by three guys who threatened to throw me out of the apartment window if I didn't leave immediately. Taking their windows out with steel balls a few hours later was little compensation for the hurt, loss and humiliation. I understand very clearly why many punters hate prostitutes and hold them in such contempt, although it's no use assuming they are all the same. It's a vicious circle and very difficult to avoid encountering it from time to time. Even if you do the obvious research and avoid all such as EE's (especially Romanians, 99% of whom are absolute con artists, and very skilled at it too) and anyone the slightest bit flaky, at all costs. A bit of advice - if you arrive at an incall and the situation is not exactly as you expected, don't hesitate, get straight out of there. Every time.

I feel for the girls who are faced with disagreeable and even violent visitors. But the level of organised criminality on the provider side is rapidly increasing at a much faster rate. There are set-ups that have absolutely no intention of providing any sexual service at all. They are just a machine for money grabbing. I nearly walked into one not long ago, but I was astute enough to spot the lookouts dotted around on the approaches. That's how organised they are. For anyone interested, avoid any apparently attractive ladies in Bedford, they don't exist. Nor do they in Northampton BTW, it's even worse there.

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The 'never had a bad punt' merchants on Prossynet would love you! :rolleyes:

Offline Jimmyredcab

The 'never had a bad punt' merchants on Prossynet would love you! :rolleyes:

Another one full of shit.   :dash: :dash:

From an earlier post -------------

I think the answer to the title of the thread is that the vast majority of punters are losers. (yes I am aware I am also including myself in this group, but one has to be realistic)

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Wonder if serge is ever mentioned in that saafe thread?

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I think the answer to the title of the thread is that the vast majority of punters are losers. (yes I am aware I am also including myself in thisgroup, but one has to be realistic)

A lot of the escorts are losers too, but at least they are laughing their way to the bank. So no wonder they think they are better.

What a ridiculous post. On what basis do you assume the 'vast majority' of punters are losers?

Because somebody pays for sex, doesn't make them a loser.

If anything, to have the disposable income to fuck as many prossies as some do on here must imply that they are pretty successful.

There are umpteen reasons for paying for sex, many of which do not involve the punter being a loser  :dash:

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It's all very well you saying that, but if you're not careful you can easily get conned, ripped off, whatever. I've done about 20 bookings in the last year, and only one has turned to be of a standard that I'd want to go back. The hatred on the prozzie side runs so deep sometimes that they think nothing of pulling truely outrageous cons. I've been threatened with serious violence on three of those occasions, and it doesn't matter how well prepared you are, you can't do much when you're grossly outnumbered. They promise you a lot and plan it well and it's so easy to slip up. I think the classic one that happened to me was the really friendly girl who literally disappeared as soon as I parted with money. Only to be replaced by three guys who threatened to throw me out of the apartment window if I didn't leave immediately. Taking their windows out with steel balls a few hours later was little compensation for the hurt, loss and humiliation. I understand very clearly why many punters hate prostitutes and hold them in such contempt, although it's no use assuming they are all the same. It's a vicious circle and very difficult to avoid encountering it from time to time. Even if you do the obvious research and avoid all such as EE's (especially Romanians, 99% of whom are absolute con artists, and very skilled at it too) and anyone the slightest bit flaky, at all costs. A bit of advice - if you arrive at an incall and the situation is not exactly as you expected, don't hesitate, get straight out of there. Every time.

I feel for the girls who are faced with disagreeable and even violent visitors. But the level of organised criminality on the provider side is rapidly increasing at a much faster rate. There are set-ups that have absolutely no intention of providing any sexual service at all. They are just a machine for money grabbing. I nearly walked into one not long ago, but I was astute enough to spot the lookouts dotted around on the approaches. That's how organised they are. For anyone interested, avoid any apparently attractive ladies in Bedford, they don't exist. Nor do they in Northampton BTW, it's even worse there.

Threatened with serious violence 3 times out of 20 punts? Something's wrong, l haven't been threatened with serious violence 3 times in over 40 years, and that includes punting with streetgirls in some very dodgy areas years ago.

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Threatened with serious violence 3 times out of 20 punts? Something's wrong, l haven't been threatened with serious violence 3 times in over 40 years, and that includes punting with streetgirls in some very dodgy areas years ago.

Agreed. In far more than 20 punts, I have never experienced the threat of serious violence. Or indeed any violence.

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Yet they can't live without each other - bizarre isn't it.

Bit too much like many marriages...innit  :D

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What a ridiculous post. On what basis do you assume the 'vast majority' of punters are losers?

Because somebody pays for sex, doesn't make them a loser.

If anything, to have the disposable income to fuck as many prossies as some do on here must imply that they are pretty successful.

There are umpteen reasons for paying for sex, many of which do not involve the punter being a loser  :dash:

Indeed and agreed - To all this post, especially the last sentence!

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What a ridiculous post. On what basis do you assume the 'vast majority' of punters are losers?

Because somebody pays for sex, doesn't make them a loser.

If anything, to have the disposable income to fuck as many prossies as some do on here must imply that they are pretty successful.

There are umpteen reasons for paying for sex, many of which do not involve the punter being a loser

There are a few people who post on forums who are rather deluded.

I can't think how you could dress up paying for sex as a positive thing, in respect of paying for it. It means simply that if you do that you are not attractive enough to the other person for them to be willing to do it of their free will without financial reward.

Having disposable income might represent financial success, but if you still have to pay for sex it must mean that you're not held in particularly high regard by the opposite gender. I have to say that guys who have a high income who pay for sex are pretty stupid, or repulsive, or both. I've heard a lot from the providers side on this subject, especially from the upmarket fraternity, and NOTHING I have heard sways me from that view. They may be able to afford it easily, but they certainly ain't winners in the sex game, that's for sure.

There seem to be lots of guys on here who pat each other on the back saying what a great thing it is that they are all doing. Maybe it is in some respects, but that doesn't get away from the fact that having lost out in the sex game means you have to pay for it to get any. That equals loser I'm afraid. Those that are married or have partners and do it - well there's something that smacks of loser there as well.

I'm simply saying how it is, because I am realistic about it.

overhead

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Indeed and agreed - To all this post, especially the last sentence!

Yeah - "you would say that wouldn't you". (on a forum like this)

By the way the very similar and oft and widely mentioned quote came from the older sister of a former work colleague of mine.