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Offline MrMatrix

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Well I just been listening to this lady who is a sex counsellor. She clearly understands the problems we guys have in a sexless marriage. I cant help think would it be worth showing my OH this. But I no longer need to go there as I'm a committed punter. Five years ago this wasnt the case. But I do know many of us are looking at punting when really we would rather have a loving relationship with the OH. To this end some of you will find this interesting and may even bring it to the attention of your OH. Her last bit of advice is - "if you have a problem, take it to the bedroom - naked".
Does this help any one? :hi:


Offline JamesKW

The whole issue is a difficult one,do we use WGs because we have a sexless marriage or is the sexless marriage an excuse to use WGs.In other words do we just like the variety offered by WGs.

Offline Lady Lover

The whole issue is a difficult one,do we use WGs because we have a sexless marriage or is the sexless marriage an excuse to use WGs.In other words do we just like the variety offered by WGs.

I totally agree with this. My OH is a fine female and we have good sex but it is the variety I enjoy. Punting can be a vicious circle, no sex in a marriage so you punt, punt because you like different pussys means you have less appetite for sex at home which leads to less sex which fuels masterbation or more punting - I need a lie down  :scare:

Offline Punterenas

I have thought about this a lot.
Started punting in 2015 after 12 sexless years, warned her I was going to get it elsewhere but she said and did nothing (I got the old deaf and dumb breakfast for a while that was about it). Think she thought it was an empty threat and I didn't have the balls.
Once I started I was kicking myself I hadn't done it a decade earlier! I love it, so many bucket list items crossed off, so many girls.
I tell myself its the OH I want but do I? Can I go back to the old lights out nightie up vanilla service having had A levels, students, threesomes, a woman gagging on my cock and everything else?
Probably, if the sex was regular and not duty or pity sex.
But after 14 years I'm pretty sure that aint gonna happen.
OH has her life and I have mine and never the twain and all that.
I am lucky I have the means and the opportunity for this hobby. I'm going to enjoy myself while I can.

Offline shagmore

I have a great GF, sex was brilliant and overnight for about 1yr, then it died down, hence why I punt, I love sex, cant get enough of it.
I had a sexless marriage for 7yrs (married 22) and didn't cheat t all, what a mistake, 7 years of punting wasted.
Women need to understand men need sex, if they are not giving it up we find it else where, simple as that. If they don't like it, then they should open their legs more often

nervous colin

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I have thought about this a lot.
Started punting in 2015 after 12 sexless years, warned her I was going to get it elsewhere but she said and did nothing (I got the old deaf and dumb breakfast for a while that was about it). Think she thought it was an empty threat and I didn't have the balls.
Once I started I was kicking myself I hadn't done it a decade earlier! I love it, so many bucket list items crossed off, so many girls.
I tell myself its the OH I want but do I? Can I go back to the old lights out nightie up vanilla service having had A levels, students, threesomes, a woman gagging on my cock and everything else?
Probably, if the sex was regular and not duty or pity sex.
But after 14 years I'm pretty sure that aint gonna happen.
OH has her life and I have mine and never the twain and all that.
I am lucky I have the means and the opportunity for this hobby. I'm going to enjoy myself while I can.

My other half let me climb on the other night, we were away without the kids for the weekend. As usual, she lay there, made no effort, never does any oral, and only position is mish. Was hoping to get some the following morning, but some excuse or other about not wanting a shower.
Her passing comment was " that will last you another year"
Well guess what sweetheart, it fuckin wont, and two weeks later i was doing all the things i should be doing with her, with someone else!
I used to masturbate, but now i punt instead.

Offline Puntsmith

When my wife was my gf, we couldn’t get enough and would be fucking like rabbits everywhere and everyday!  When she became my wife, initially it was still frequent but less exciting vs before being married.  Then we had our 1st kid...  then probably had 1 fuck in 3 years...  and that produced kid number 2!!  Following that it’s been a drought!  That’s when my punting started!  I’m not complaining that my wife doesn’t put out.  From my punting, I’ve experienced variety, fucking hot women and doing stuff that I wouldn’t want my wife to do!

Offline Slaveofnature

I have thought about this a lot.
Started punting in 2015 after 12 sexless years, warned her I was going to get it elsewhere but she said and did nothing (I got the old deaf and dumb breakfast for a while that was about it). Think she thought it was an empty threat and I didn't have the balls.
Once I started I was kicking myself I hadn't done it a decade earlier! I love it, so many bucket list items crossed off, so many girls.
I tell myself its the OH I want but do I? Can I go back to the old lights out nightie up vanilla service having had A levels, students, threesomes, a woman gagging on my cock and everything else?
Probably, if the sex was regular and not duty or pity sex.
But after 14 years I'm pretty sure that aint gonna happen.
OH has her life and I have mine and never the twain and all that.
I am lucky I have the means and the opportunity for this hobby. I'm going to enjoy myself while I can.
I'm in a very similar situation with my OH. She went off sex years ago, not that it was exciting when we did have sex but it was loving, and I just tried to put it out of my mind and use porn. I don't want to hurt her and it was bad enough covering up my use of porn but 8 months ago I discovered escorts and I haven't had so much fun in all my life.  I used to be a mountain climber, I've toured Europe on a motor bike and had fantastic experiences when I was in the merchant navy when a lad in the 70's but nothing has equalled the feeling of anticipation I get when I know I've got a meet to look forward to and I'm going to get the type of sex that I never had before and am about to get now. I wish I'd discovered it when I was younger and better looking but what the hell.
This week I'm about to visit a dom in a dungeon to find out what that's all about and see if I like it. F'ing Fantastic.
One of the downsides I find though is that its quite lonely in that I can't share my fantastic experiences with anyone except you lot and the SP's.

Offline Desimonic

 Variety is what i go for now.
When i was married, use to get the usual excuses of not having sex  " not in the mood" was one of EX OHs favourites. After a prolong period of this, i lay my cards on the table , if i anit getting any at home i get it else where. I suppose she thought i wouldn't do it cause of my kind personality and because of the kids , but hey if this petrol station won't let me fill up here , i go to another garage and fill up; i won't stop using the car .
 Well cut long story short, after punting for over 6 months Oh started to actually put some effort into our sex life as she knew i was punting. By then i had the taste of variety from punting and never looked back.
Divorce was best thing i did. Don't get me wrong still love her to bits but just can't live with her lol
Fast forward 10+ years and still punting and trying out SA   :drinks:


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Offline RogerBoner

From my punting, I’ve experienced variety, fucking hot women and doing stuff that I wouldn’t want my wife to do!
I've had the best sex from punting and I've improved my performance a lot. I wouldn't want my wife to do what the prozzies do and if I like the prozzie too much the sex turns into wife style sex, boring.
MrMatrix I'm in your boat...

Offline threechilliman

"if you have a problem, take it to the bedroom - naked".

That would be my advice as well. Took a bit of coaxing along at first, but now........ :yahoo:

Offline TomR

I have thought about this a lot.
Started punting in 2015 after 12 sexless years, warned her I was going to get it elsewhere but she said and did nothing (I got the old deaf and dumb breakfast for a while that was about it). Think she thought it was an empty threat and I didn't have the balls.
Once I started I was kicking myself I hadn't done it a decade earlier! I love it, so many bucket list items crossed off, so many girls.
I tell myself its the OH I want but do I? Can I go back to the old lights out nightie up vanilla service having had A levels, students, threesomes, a woman gagging on my cock and everything else?
Probably, if the sex was regular and not duty or pity sex.
But after 14 years I'm pretty sure that aint gonna happen.
OH has her life and I have mine and never the twain and all that.
I am lucky I have the means and the opportunity for this hobby. I'm going to enjoy myself while I can.




'the old lights out nightie up vanilla service'

Isn't it amazing how often this seems to come up. I think wives need to be educated as to what making love actually means. Perhaps there is something in their make up that tells them that being married means putting up the shutters and blocking out all forms of pleasure and denying husbands a real woman. I have heard that description so often from so many people that I do wonder if they are programmed that way. Maybe marriage makes them complacent or perhaps changes them. But they really have no right to complain that their husbands go off looking for fun elsewhere when all they seem to only dish up at home is something worse than 1980s sauna girl massage parlour sex.

Offline MrMatrix

I've had the best sex from punting and I've improved my performance a lot. I wouldn't want my wife to do what the prozzies do

MrMatrix I'm in your boat...
In my case I was going a year at a time without sex at the end. As much as I loved the OH after 30 years and the whole rejection was damaging my psychee. Lots of anger and arguements later from constant excuses and in the end I didn't want to look over my shoulder with regrets. So I started punting. I found it difficult at first and it took me 3 years to accept that I was now a punter. So I started punting because I needed to have sex - no other reason initially. So from the vanilla sex I occaisional got to something that I expected sex to be like was no comparision. Also my performance has improved considerably as has my confidence. I feel sorry for her as she has missed out on a great aspect of marriage, however its worked out well for me as I love it. Got several regulars who I really enjoy being with. Whats there not to like. Couldnt go back now. The fact I punt I get what I want and I am better for it, as is our relatinship. :hi:

Mind you had that U Tube clip been available 10 years ago I would have defiinately shown her it, hoping that she would have been more reasonable about the whole issue.  :hi:

Offline Spacecowb0y

My other half let me climb on the other night, we were away without the kids for the weekend. As usual, she lay there, made no effort, never does any oral, and only position is mish. Was hoping to get some the following morning, but some excuse or other about not wanting a shower.
Her passing comment was " that will last you another year"
Well guess what sweetheart, it fuckin wont, and two weeks later i was doing all the things i should be doing with her, with someone else!
I used to masturbate, but now i punt instead.

this reads much like my story. She obliged yesterday,and reckons that should sort me out until January!
She likes to kiss and cuddle and tries cow girl and doggie occasionally,but yesterday was strictly missionary.
Her mind was more on buying Xmas presents than sex, but I bit my lip and carried on.
Will bring that up tactfully another day.

Offline Ridiculousiknow

So much I can relate to in this thread. I was finding it harder and harder to perform with the missus as to be honest she had got very 'frumpy' and got a rather frumpy attitude to go with it. Most of my mates seemed to be happy to get pissed on a saturday night and have a drunken fumble but I just couldn't do it. For some reason my brain still thinks I'm 25 and deserves a woman to match. So when my missus said one time that 'I wouldn't have any problems performing if I had a beautiful young woman naked in front of me',  I thought to myself, do you know what, I'm going to find out - and guess what - she was right! Been punting ever since. My main problem is I just can't get enough, it's more than just the sex it's the thrill of the whole game, from researching on AW, to the first text to actually speaking to her for the first time, it's all so exciting. I love it!

Offline Titti Tatti

So much I can relate to in this thread.

 My main problem is I just can't get enough, it's more than just the sex it's the thrill of the whole game, from researching on AW, to the first text to actually speaking to her for the first time, it's all so exciting. I love it!

Like most others I started in frustration and the need for some action. OH cannot/willnot discuss sex.

But two years in I wonder if I'm now punting as much for the excitement as for the sexual release. I would be interested in reading more about why men punt if anyone has suggestions.


Also curious about the comments on doing things with WG that you wouldn't want the wife to do. What's that all about?.

Offline MrMatrix

Like most others I started in frustration and the need for some action. OH cannot/willnot discuss sex.

But two years in I wonder if I'm now punting as much for the excitement as for the sexual release. I would be interested in reading more about why men punt if anyone has suggestions.


Also curious about the comments on doing things with WG that you wouldn't want the wife to do. What's that all about?.
How about just plain sex. I know its a flippant comment but it happens to be true in so many of our cases. :hi:
And I think it is as much for the excitment now and a happy release with some one who on the face of it enjoys sex as much as you do.

Offline Titti Tatti

How about just plain sex. I know its a flippant comment but it happens to be true in so many of our cases. :hi:
And I think it is as much for the excitment now and a happy release with some one who on the face of it enjoys sex as much as you do.

I agree that's why I started and is likely true "in so many cases". But like the guy I quoted I cant get enough. It's as if I'm infatuated with punting. Is there a difference?

I'm time challenged, so as soon as I've got a window I'm on the phone. In other parts of my life I'm quite the connoisseur, will wait for a 'best'possible experience.  With this I go to the first girl who answers my phone, and I've never walked. Have only done repeat visit with a few girls.

So my experience and perhaps motivation is not the same as 'so many case's.  I'm curious to know more.

Offline WKD123

So much I can relate to in this thread. I was finding it harder and harder to perform with the missus as to be honest she had got very 'frumpy' and got a rather frumpy attitude to go with it. Most of my mates seemed to be happy to get pissed on a saturday night and have a drunken fumble but I just couldn't do it. For some reason my brain still thinks I'm 25 and deserves a woman to match. So when my missus said one time that 'I wouldn't have any problems performing if I had a beautiful young woman naked in front of me',  I thought to myself, do you know what, I'm going to find out - and guess what - she was right! Been punting ever since. My main problem is I just can't get enough, it's more than just the sex it's the thrill of the whole game, from researching on AW, to the first text to actually speaking to her for the first time, it's all so exciting. I love it!

Again, similar motivations - a medical condition means that on the rare occasions when me and the wife have tried, it hasn't gone anywhere and although a BJ was part of the routine in the dim and distant past, it baffles me why the OH can't recognise that whilst intercourse is off the table, an occasional BJ from her with some RO from me would keep things alive and may have stopped me starting this alternate life. There's also very little affection left but that's typical when you've got a family who sap so much energy and I know it's on both of us to try and keep the relationship alive.

Having said that, I echo the thought above which is that it is now the whole "thing" - the excitement of knowing you have a booking - the unknown of exactly what she will look like - the opportunity to fuck much younger, fit girls who pretend enough to convince you that you've still got what it takes. The research, building up your HL, reading reviews....

Another factor is that I try hard to keep myself fit and trim, even though I am fugly, but the OH seems to have given up on keeping fit and I've always found larger women very unattractive so to be honest, I would find it hard to get it up even if sex was back on.

I guess that's part of what this forum is about - apart from the invaluable resource of reviews - sharing views, opinions and experiences is actually part of therapy and might encourage some members to resolve their issues and return to the OH, save a lot of cash and potentially their civvie relationship.

Offline wheeliebinwanking

Excellent thread MrMatrix

You know my case, no sex whatsoever at home. Seeing WG's / Masseuses is for the sexual release as Wanking isn't enough... https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=70784.0

At some point it may morph into more but not now

If I got sex (any sex) regularly (1 a week) I wouldn't seek services

WBW

mrhappypants

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Two things;

I would really like to find away to warn my children about the realities of marriage - but without necessarily providing them with a commentary on their parents relationship.  This would be “make sure your need for regular satisfying sex is acknowledged as fundamental and recognise this needs to be met even if this is outside the relationship as long as you are not deceiving each other.”  I want to encourage them to build their relationships in light of this truths.

Second thing, at 50+ years old I am finally enjoying regular, varied, exciting sex first time in my life and am amazed what a powerfully positive effect it has on my mental health.  I realise it is and always has been impossible for me to be happy without a good sex life and wish I had made some different choices in the past based on this knowledge.

Offline MrMatrix

Two things;

I would really like to find away to warn my children about the realities of marriage - but without necessarily providing them with a commentary on their parents relationship.  This would be “make sure your need for regular satisfying sex is acknowledged as fundamental and recognise this needs to be met even if this is outside the relationship as long as you are not deceiving each other.”  I want to encourage them to build their relationships in light of this truths.

Second thing, at 50+ years old I am finally enjoying regular, varied, exciting sex first time in my life and am amazed what a powerfully positive effect it has on my mental health.  I realise it is and always has been impossible for me to be happy without a good sex life and wish I had made some different choices in the past based on this knowledge.
A most relavent comment MrHP.
I did the first pargraph OK. I was damned if my kids were going to grow up in ignorance of the benifits of sex. And there are many many benifits for both partners. A fact MrsM was determined and therefore was never going to appreciate.

And I am with you all the way on your second paragraph. I too am enjoying the best sex of my life. I am mentally in a better place and have a better relationship at home. Its a shame that my OH has conducted herself in the way she has rejecting this aspect of marriage, for through her ignorance she has ultimately lost out and forced me down the route of punting. Thank fuck she did cos where I was 10 years ago was untenable.  :yahoo: :yahoo:

Offline BillGoldberg

Irrelevant to me
No one woman could satisfy me sexually, regardless of how great the sex is within a relationship, hence I punt

It's a far more pragmatic solution to satisfying my sex drive than indulging in multiple affairs

Offline antmasterant

I punt as I work away quite a bit so have the opportunity. My wife does put out fairly regularly but it’s no longer exciting and BJs are as rare as rocking horse shit. Now I’m in my early 40s it’s also the only chance I’ll get to have sex with women in their early 20s which brings back many happy memories of when I was a young whipper snapper!

Offline tantric talents


It's a far more pragmatic solution to satisfying my sex drive than indulging in multiple affairs
So true and mentally so less stressful. Also on balance  ultimately easier on the wallet too!

Offline lewisjones23

despite what ive just posted on another thread, i have a civvie coming to mine tonight

havent wanked for a week so i will have a rock hard boner and a big load for her

she is also dirty as anything, pretty much the only thing off the menu is anal so she will be getting the old plasterer's radio later  :thumbsup:

Offline charger70

Like so many on this thread, intermarriage sex disappeared from the menu several years ago, after slowly dropping off in volume terms, and variety  also slipped once the knot was tied.

so  just over three years ago, I discovered punting, and also the wide variety of  options available.

If punting meant only a quick shag, then I would have probably stick with  wanking, but I have now been indulging in  all sorts of specialist and fetish services, which  would never have been on the menu with the O.

So now I have  regular  kinky sex, no pressure with the OH, so all in all in a good place, and again like many others, its  shame `I didn't get started earlier !

Offline cunningman

I punt as I work away quite a bit so have the opportunity. My wife does put out fairly regularly but it’s no longer exciting and BJs are as rare as rocking horse shit. Now I’m in my early 40s it’s also the only chance I’ll get to have sex with women in their early 20s which brings back many happy memories of when I was a young whipper snapper!
Interesting you punt 20 years below - a whole generation.
Would you fuck your daughter?  How about her friends?  You know, the ones being dropped off by the nice milfs when you did the school run?
Age gap is a weird thing, when we were 15, age gape was a 6th former.
When we were freshers, age gap was 3rd year or postgrad.
Now, well, I (hitting five-oh) I look at the pics of the late teens and twenties and I move on.  They look damn good, but what do they know?
I'd much rather punt a 40+ (ok 35+ I'm a perv) who knows what to do and why and knows what works for them and will tell you so you can both have fun.
And I'd much rather punt a woman I would be happy to take to dinner, even if I know there is no sex - no pay time just pay dinner - because we have something to talk about.   I find sex with these women is much better, less mechanical.  I have a right hand after all, and I could buy a fleshlight.  I'd much rather have a real woman with opinions and all the other shit too.

Offline cunningman

Irrelevant to me
It's a far more pragmatic solution to satisfying my sex drive than indulging in multiple affairs
I am more easily sated, but would rather punt because I do it to fix my urge.  My urge is not to leave her, and throw away friendship and shared dreams, just to fill in.
Handing over cash defines a boundary - it works for both parties.
Trying to have an affair would be complicated, difficult, expensive, and stressful.

Offline MrMatrix

Interesting you punt 20 years below - a whole generation.
Would you fuck your daughter?  How about her friends?  You know, the ones being dropped off by the nice milfs when you did the school run?

I'd much rather punt a 40+ (ok 35+ I'm a perv) who knows what to do and why and knows what works for them and will tell you so you can both have fun.
And I'd much rather punt a woman I would be happy to take to dinner, even if I know there is no sex - no pay time just pay dinner - because we have something to talk about.   I find sex with these women is much better, less mechanical.  I have a right hand after all, and I could buy a fleshlight.  I'd much rather have a real woman with opinions and all the other shit too.
Cunningman - if I was in antmasterant's shoes reading what could be an accusation- I wouldnt be happy.
And what age range you punt is up to you- no one will judge you. Also you have punted WGs as young as 28 if their profiles are to be believed. And no you're not a perv. You like most of us enjoy punting, you just have a preference for a differernt age range as indeed we are all entited to.  :hi:

Offline Pondy

I can relate to so much in this thread, I only started punting at the start of this year,been married for over 10 years, together nearly 20 years, sex was great at the start, now it's  sex twice a year, her birthday and mine.
I think that all men think about paying for it at some stage in their lives, one wg reckoned that 3 out of 5 men who she saw was married, it goes on more than anyone realises.
 I'm mid 40's and had  from a 22 yo to a 55 milf, as antmasterant said, it reminds me of when I was  a young whipper snapper with someone younger, it's all personal choice at the end of the day.
As slaveofnature said, I love the research then the phone call, then the meet, the open door with her behind it, then what comes naturally, then walking out with a big smile on your face.

Offline RogerBoner

Like most others I started in frustration and the need for some action. OH cannot/willnot discuss sex.

But two years in I wonder if I'm now punting as much for the excitement as for the sexual release. I would be interested in reading more about why men punt if anyone has suggestions.


Also curious about the comments on doing things with WG that you wouldn't want the wife to do. What's that all about?.
Regarding punting for excitement. A WG retired 3 years ago from offering FS to just give massages with a Happy Ending.. Her Mamasan or maid (I've had a bizarre unexpected sexual encounter with this maid last year)  alerted me that she was coming out of retirement and was offerings FS again. However I ended up walking out because she told me that it would be OW only this time round. Yet I still returned to my car with a spring in my step, happy and exhilarated. It made me briefly ponder becoming a time waster. I got a high from the excitement of speaking to the maid, waiting sheepishly in the car after being asked to wait 10 minutes, walking to the venue knowing that someone might spot me, meeting the WG etc. So I definately think that punting for excitement beyond the sex is true for me.

Regarding doing things that I wouldn't want the wife to do I'm talking about her rimming me and me facefucking her. The thing is that I don't even want some regular WGs that I see to do it anymore. Perhaps I think that it's a slightly demeaning thing to do with my wife and the regular that I got over friendly with making the sex turn vanilla.

Offline Marmalade

Interesting you punt 20 years below - a whole generation.
[SNIP VICIOUS OFFENSIVE STUFF]

You are totally out of line in my opinion with those vile insinuations cunningman.

Offline Marmalade

I’m quite horrified that an established member says such stuff. To indicate how daft it is, you might say to a punter who has a sister who is five years younger than he is, and likes prossies of that age, “Would you fuck your sister??   :scare: ”.
Of course he fucking wouldn’t you twat.

Offline Marmalade

Cunningman - if I was in antmasterant's shoes reading what could be an accusation- I wouldnt be happy.
And what age range you punt is up to you- no one will judge you. Also you have punted WGs as young as 28 if their profiles are to be believed. And no you're not a perv. You like most of us enjoy punting, you just have a preference for a differernt age range as indeed we are all entited to.  :hi:

+1

Offline Marmalade

Regarding punting for excitement. A WG retired 3 years ago from offering FS to just give massages with a Happy Ending.. Her Mamasan or maid (I've had a bizarre unexpected sexual encounter with this maid last year)  alerted me that she was coming out of retirement and was offerings FS again. However I ended up walking out because she told me that it would be OW only this time round. Yet I still returned to my car with a spring in my step, happy and exhilarated. It made me briefly ponder becoming a time waster. I got a high from the excitement of speaking to the maid, waiting sheepishly in the car after being asked to wait 10 minutes, walking to the venue knowing that someone might spot me, meeting the WG etc. So I definately think that punting for excitement beyond the sex is true for me.

The excitement, and especially unexpected excitement is I think a big thrill. I used to have a maid while living abroad for a while. I hadn’t made it too obvious that I brought prossies back but I’m sure she knew. I can’t remember exactly how it happened but one day there was a sort of unspoken vibe between us. She said something like she “didn’t do that any more” ... but would maybe make an exception (!). She was mid- to late thirties, ok looking, not an eye-popper yet she had a certain attractiveness. The fact that she’d been so prim and proper as my maid for ages made the thought of shagging her rather exciting. Naturally, we agreed a price and an appointment.  :thumbsup:

Offline stockinglover

After reading this I feel so much better, in fact I think I'll go out and have another Punt, maybe we should take it to Mums Net :D

Offline MrMatrix

You are totally out of line in my opinion with those vile insinuations cunningman.
Kamu got banned for something similar to this and he was a prolific punter and reviewer. Cunningham will be fortuneate to get away with such a cuntish remark. :hi:

Offline antmasterant

Cunningman - if I was in antmasterant's shoes reading what could be an accusation- I wouldnt be happy.
And what age range you punt is up to you- no one will judge you. Also you have punted WGs as young as 28 if their profiles are to be believed. And no you're not a perv. You like most of us enjoy punting, you just have a preference for a differernt age range as indeed we are all entited to.  :hi:

Thanks MrMatrix. I’ve only just caught up on the comments in this thread. You are right, the comments from Cunningman are out of order. He has an opinion and we have to respect that but legally I’m doing nothing wrong. I treat all women I sleep with, civvy or WG with respect and wouldn’t dream of doing otherwise. It’s just that women in their 20s are my preferred choice.  :unknown:
« Last Edit: December 18, 2017, 07:54:08 pm by antmasterant »

Offline Bogof60

So if you like to punt with a MILF
Would you fuck your Mother
Don't even go down the GILF route
Twattish comments IMHO
Just for the record yes I will punt with a 20 year old if she takes my fancy
If they are of legal age and old enough to advertise on AW then they are game IMHO
Banned reason: Abuse of a mod.
Banned by: daviemac

Offline Marmalade

Well no-one’s complained to Admin so hopefully he takes the heavy response from other punters onboard and refrains from such comments in future. (An apology would be nice; though up to him.)

Offline cunningman

Kamu got banned for something similar to this and he was a prolific punter and reviewer. Cunningham will be fortuneate to get away with such a cuntish remark. :hi:
It seems that my comments were taken out of the context I meant.
I'm pushing 50, I find 30s and 40s a turn on.  But I would not punt a teen.
I really don't punt girls the age of my kids or (much) younger - was the point.  I watched my kids friends grow up into young women who would technically be on the radar - some of them are hitched, have kids.  I think of them as my kids friends.
Some of you should seriously chill out.
My point was that age gaps are weird but get more acceptable as the younger party gets older.
I might have stated it rather heavily.


Offline Mr_Shins

There's a lot of difference between a man of 40 with a woman of 18 who is legal but really just a girl, and a man of 52 with a woman of 30 who is obviously totally adult enough to know what they are doing and be able to make the decision for themselves.


Offline cunningman

There's a lot of difference between a man of 40 with a woman of 18 who is legal but really just a girl, and a man of 52 with a woman of 30 who is obviously totally adult enough to know what they are doing and be able to make the decision for themselves.
That was rather the point that I was trying to make.
I'm pretty sure none of us would shag our daughters.
It would be embarrassing to find its your daughter's friend you last saw when she was 11.
What makes other women the same age different?  They are all somebody's daughter.
Suppose you grade it on a level of horror, assuming (say) these women are now 19, 20:
 - your daughter
 - her friends
 - her classmates
 - women from other classes, same school, not immediate friendship group
 - women from other classes, different schools (everyone else)
Where does it stop being morally reprehensible?
Where is it just a case that you might be found out - and is that really what we care about?
I always fancied their mums anyway.

Offline MrMatrix

OK lets get back to the thread which was the counsellors understanding of the importance of sex in a marriage and the issues involved if our OH's ignore this essential interaction. Heres the link- well worth listening to if your OH has limited interest as many of us are in the same boat.
External Link/Members Only

Offline Spacecowb0y

If you stop relating every female that is younger than you to sister, daughter etc,then it's quite possible to see a woman that is much younger than yourself.
Younger girls would never "entertain" us old farts,if they thought we are their fathers age!

Offline cunningman

Well no-one’s complained to Admin so hopefully he takes the heavy response from other punters onboard and refrains from such comments in future. (An apology would be nice; though up to him.)
I have refined the point.
I think its a point well made, and the 'I'll fuck'em if they can advertise' is just a bit sad (not you, another one) - but each to his own.
I do think there's an element of hypocrisy, sometimes.  And I suspect its down to 'don't shit on your own doorstep because you'll get found out' more than any moral compass.
Don't you look in the mirror while you are shaving?  What do you see if you do?
We allow 'robust debate' here, no?
Or is it just that we allow ourselves to robustly piss on noobs?
There will be no apology.

Offline MrMatrix

If you stop relating every female that is younger than you to sister, daughter etc,then it's quite possible to see a woman that is much younger than yourself.
Younger girls would never "entertain" us old farts,if they thought we are their fathers age!
Any SP advertising is fair game and they know that. That is all there is to it, that is the nature of this hobby. Age is irrelavent, unless the SP says other wise. And we all know that is how it is.  :hi:

Offline Mr_Shins

I don't have any daughters. I have a son but he is only 12 years old. So it will be a long time until anyone close to his age will be in the range of who I'd want to punt with..