Outed to a pro$$ie by a fellow punter

[mrfishyfoo]

I like to keep my online ID anonymous from the pro$$ies I meet for as long as I can. To facilitate this I do not book via AWank unless I am forced to and I do not use UKE for bookings. I like to ring a lass and book that way.

Anyways a punter I have corresponded with on here and elsewhere was making inquiries about a pro$$ie I have seen. I've not reviewed her yet as I haven't had my fill. This pro$$ie had no clue who online me is as I'd kept that secret from her.

Being a decent sort of chap I sent a PM to this punter as I didn't want to be "exposed" at this stage of the game did I or I would have posted on the public forum.

What did he do.....well he outed the info in that PM to the pro$$ie and he’s admitted to sharing info with her when challenged by PM.

That message contained information that was for that punters eyes only as it was an "assessment" of the lass in question and the area she does her incalls from.

My gut reaction is….

that this punter can't be trusted as he’s outing info to WGs (therefore a WK).

that info sent to any punter in a PM should be kept confidential.

My question is this….

Do I name and shame him as an untrustworthy information outing twat ??

[vw]

sounds like he is too involved with here, what was he thinking showing prossies PM's ?

I would not want to trust that person, sure others would like to be warned who not to trust.

[Zeusthedoc]

I like to keep my online ID anonymous from the pro$$ies I meet for as long as I can. To facilitate this I do not book via AWank unless I am forced to and I do not use UKE for bookings. I like to ring a lass and book that way.

Anyways a punter I have corresponded with on here and elsewhere was making inquiries about a pro$$ie I have seen. I've not reviewed her yet as I haven't had my fill. This pro$$ie had no clue who online me is as I'd kept that secret from her.

Being a decent sort of chap I sent a PM to this punter as I didn't want to be "exposed" at this stage of the game did I or I would have posted on the public forum.

What did he do.....well he outed the info in that PM to the pro$$ie and he’s admitted to sharing info with her when challenged by PM.

That message contained information that was for that punters eyes only as it was an "assessment" of the lass in question and the area she does her incalls from.

My gut reaction is….

that this punter can't be trusted as he’s outing info to WGs (therefore a WK).

that info sent to any punter in a PM should be kept confidential.

My question is this….

Do I name and shame him as an untrustworthy information outing twat ??

definitely - this is a massive dick move.
personally, i would out him etc.
discretion is everything in this game.

if you were feeling particularly charitable, you might give him the opportunity to explain his actions. but that's up to you.

if you have evidence, even better.

[bitofanovice]

Absolutely mate

Although I am a new'ish contributor I know enough that the forum is a fraternity of sorts.

Common decency to respect the privacy and opinions of fellow contributors and punters, otherwise the objectivity and honesty is called into question !

[dubs]

Not enough punters know what the "P" in PM stands for.

In my opinion, the contents of PMs should never be shared unless the sender says its OK.

[mrfishyfoo]

if you have evidence, even better.

The punter in question has already IMHO incriminated himself when he replied to my PM when I asked him WTF he was playing at.

[mh]

In my opinion, the contents of PMs should never be shared unless the sender says its OK.

I think I've seen a few other instances where PM contents have been brought up in the open forum and thought it was acceptable. e.g. unsolicited messages, back-stabbing of other members, outright touting or white-knighting, but no, not ordinary exchanges of information.

[thekingreturns]

Name and Shame.... we are all 1 big punting family and should stick together and not knife each other in the back!

If he can do it to you he can do it to any of us

[mrfishyfoo]

If he can do it to you he can do it to any of us

EXACTLY !!! 

[shagmore]

What an utter cunt, PM is private message, or am I missing something,
What an utter wanker, we should all stick together
He aint no fellow punter in my mind if he does that

[OakTree]

I imagine the said punter is already aware of this thread and awaiting the shit storm heading his way. It would be interesting if he was to now explain himself.

[Belgarion]

Name and shame him. Punters like that are dangerous

[buccdriver]

Yep, name and shame.......and isn't his conduct a good reason for banning?

[milo]

Is one option to pass your evidence to Admin and let him decide what is the best action?

I would be reluctant to do anything without Admin's approval. It's his board, his PM system. He may have his own ideas as to an appropriate sanction.

[mrfishyfoo]

....It would be interesting if he was to now explain himself.

This is exactly why I haven't named him yet. My patience though is limited and the clock is ticking.

[mrfishyfoo]

Is one option to pass your evidence to Admin and let him decide what is the best action?

I would be reluctant to do anything without Admin's approval. It's his board, his PM system. He may have his own ideas as to an appropriate sanction.

PM already sent to The Boss  and awaiting his reply.

[Goldfinch]

Is one option to pass your evidence to Admin and let him decide what is the best action?

I would be reluctant to do anything without Admin's approval. It's his board, his PM system. He may have his own ideas as to an appropriate sanction.

+1

[OakTree]

This is exactly why I haven't named him yet. My patience though is limited and the clock is ticking.

If he’s been online since this thread started then I agree the clock is ticking.

[Shearer1955]

I think he has lost any privilege to remain anonymous; the PM service is exactly that between 2 people

[auldbald]

I'm new around here but punted for years and that is shit behaviour,  name and shame.

[Gordon Bennett]

No offence intended to anyone but I personally feel it's better and safer to keep escorts AND punters very much at arms length..... this incident might be a salutary lesson about not assuming everyone on here shares your own sense of etiquette or standards of behaviour and discretion.

[vw]

 Brunette lover banned.   

[GreyDave]

   Sorry to be factual her but...We are talking Punter names and Punter online names Yes?

As a punter who often see other punters outside of flats and with I ve even punted with and been at parties.
I was advised ( by the Old Dog himself Steve2 as he drove us to a local punt GB ) only keep minimal items on yourself and always use a punter name ....unless like mine its so crappy and common , David I just use the friendly version ..if ever outed I would be Dave, Davy Boy, David, Davide ect how many times is it on here cover yourself ? ask Jimmy RedCab 

Let it go and don't waste time and effort or cash on the girl again , if I PM some one its cause I want them to get the info quickly which I would share anyways if it`s school boy he said this about you stuff WTF she is a WG and will have the guy for breakfast.

I was asked by a punting buddy not to review one of his tips for few weeks whilst we shagged her at a bargain price he had quiet rightly told me off for reviewing one and letting the world know about her before we had done her a few times. The result of my review ...She got busy and moved 

[mrfishyfoo]

Brunette lover banned.   

Don't need to name him now do I .

Dealt with by The Boss. 

[Zeusthedoc]

Is one option to pass your evidence to Admin and let him decide what is the best action?

I would be reluctant to do anything without Admin's approval. It's his board, his PM system. He may have his own ideas as to an appropriate sanction.

AFAIK - Admin has access to all PMs.

correct?

[HarryZZ]

My stance in any disagreement is that it's not fair to just hear one side and then decide what you feel about either party. Give him a chance to explain.

I'm a moderator on a trade forum and a personal friends with one of the big posters on there who's quite influential in the industry, he often manages to rub people up the wrong way, a great guy but a bit Marmite, particularly his online persona. I was out with him a couple of weeks back and my phone lets me know if somebody has raised a complaint against another member, in the moderators forum there's a whole thread about my mate and his online battle with another guy, when I got my phone out to see the message it was his arch enemy complaining about him something tat happens regularly and he's well aware of, I mention that is the the nature of yet another complaint and the thread in the mods forum had lots of new posts. My mate says, "let me see" and comes to the side of me to look, sees his name and takes my phone, I'm trying politely to get it back but he's now insistent and staring sternly into my phone. It was very embarrassing for me, fortunately all the mods were on his side and it only confirmed what he already knew, the other bloke was a complete dick.

If there had been something uncomplimentary and he'd kicked off and spread it around that I'd "let him see" the comments it would have been bad, I'd probably have been relieved of my (albeit unpaid) duties, I suppose I would have been in a similar position to Mr Fishy's mate.

I'm not saying this is the case here, but as above, as soon as you're sure he's seen this thread and not replied you can name him, until that point he should be given a chance.

[vw]

I'm not saying this is the case here, but as above, as soon as you're sure he's seen this thread and not replied you can name him, until that point he should be given a chance.

He is already banned.   

[Mikeh38]

Something similar happened to me, I asked a prominent member here a question about a duo review he posted as I was planning a trio booking, he then went and blabbed to one of the WG's which then led to an email from another pissed off WG about his behaviour. He then went and blabbed to other punters, and the booking got cancelled.

Complete wanker, no wonder so many WG's hate him 

Let me know if you want a name.

[vw]

Let me know if you want a name.

NW or wales punter ?

[mrfishyfoo]

My stance in any disagreement is that it's not fair to just hear one side and then decide what you feel about either party. Give him a chance to explain.

There's no disagreement here with this other punter.

He shared info I sent him via PM with the pro$$ie that the info was about.

[Mikeh38]

NW or wales punter ?

North West

I'll wait till fish reveals his name, then I know it's ok with Admin

[CoolTiger]

North West

I'll wait till fish reveals his name, then I know it's ok with Admin

Brunette lover banned.   

It's already out in the open. Read post VW's post in this thread #21, which mnetions his name.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=169356.0

[Goldfinch]

It's already out in the open. Read post VW's post in this thread #21, which mnetions his name.

It's a different member there talking about-as mentioned in reply #27.

[CoolTiger]

My reply was to Mikeh38, who said he'd wait til fishy revelas, then he would reveal the north-west punter (or at least that's how I read it).

I replied to mikeh to say that Admin has already outed brunette lover, as pointed out by VW, which would suggest that makeh38 could also post details about the North west punter.

[Goldfinch]

My reply was to Mikeh38, who said he'd wait til fishy revelas, then he would reveal the north-west punter (or at least that's how I read it).

I replied to mikeh to say that Admin has already outed brunette lover, as pointed out by VW, which would suggest that makeh38 could also post details about the North west punter.

 

[hungrypunt]

My stance in any disagreement is that it's not fair to just hear one side and then decide what you feel about either party. Give him a chance to explain.


I'm not saying this is the case here, but as above, as soon as you're sure he's seen this thread and not replied you can name him, until that point he should be given a chance.

No harm in posting the facts. HI EVERYBODY, this guy did this with a PM I sent him, be wary if your gonna PM him.
Some fellas just try as hard as they can to get up Prossies arses. I was with a WG today, and shes telling me about a guy whos all over her on facebook kissing her arse etc.

Fuck em and chuck em

[Mikeh38]

chrishornx

I sent him a PM in regards the interaction between Aimy and Tori during his duo, on his next booking with Aimy he discussed my PM with her.
I'm not concerned the trio got cancelled but he was VERY indiscreet IMO

[Marmalade]

I'm generally polite to forum members that are established, cunts excepted, but don't give too much away. You can never be too careful and some idiot might think it is 'quite all right' to share info with a fucking prossie. Keep anything that can identify you, or identify your user name with a particular visit (i.e. in the prossie's diary/memory) to yourself if at all possible.

I am very sorry to hear of the OP's sad experience. It seems both he and the cunt that outed him were experienced punters so never let your guard down. That the outing cunt is now banned doesn't undo the harm and hurt caused to the OP. May the thread act as a warning.

[Chorley]

Sorry to hear about this OP. 
Just goes to show you how many tossers are around this business. 

This is partly why I've never bothered with the party scene and punt 1 to 1 There are potentially so many  more dodgy twats who could out you for any number of reasons while pretending to be your mate. I don't want "mates"  in punting as IMHO it's a disaster waiting to happen.   

[curry]

I had a similar issue with a guy years ago, I introduced him to a non AW girl all by PM on here. He not only decided to set her up on AW but starting slagging me of to her and even hid in her flat when she was seeing punters.

Considering that i have never met this guy in person i felt it was a bit unfair. I then found out he messages girls and tries to get freebies by setting up AW profiles and doing a few lousy shots with his cheap mobile phone.

However its a double edged sword and what he didn't know was that she gave me all his real details down to his bank account number even.

I have sent info to many punters on here on PM and we have exchanged various details all under the strict code of punter ethics.

Then the was the case of the guy who told a girl on SA that i wrote about her on the SA thread. I think some guys feel that they are going to get something better from a girl if they tell her something like this.

Honour amongst thieves and all that.

[mrfishyfoo]

.....May the thread act as a warning.

 

[mikexxlong]

IMO any one known to of deliberately breached the confidentiality  of PRIVATE MESSAGES to others (unless under certain circumstances) should be banned
 
as don't forget among many things the posting of to much information on open forums ,PM's are also how  creepy sinister cunts stalk/out punters 

the person you  told xyz to via PM may be one of the sinister types and or a sniveling weasel , fluffy/WK doing what these pathetic pieces of shit do trying to win favour
 being a pro$$ie boot licking lap dog they are will pass on information

and the slag might note that info  for future reference  to use against whomever ,but what  commonly happens is the stupid whore
when chatting and timewasting with punters the topic of conversation can turn to be  about other punters ,as the silly slags don't give a shit or have much else to talk about

 that conversation could very well be with one the malicious  fruitloops out there who could piece together the info and pump her for even more details so they can use it for outing purposes etc

just be aware on what you post even via PM as you 'never' really know who is reading or who it could get passed on to
 
discretion and anonymity  is everything ignoring that could very well cost you everything so be careful

[munterhunter]

AFAIK - Admin has access to all PMs.

correct?

Of course Admin has access.
Not fully aware of all the rules on here but common sense tells me PM the clue is in the name Personal Message I wouldn't divulge the contents of a PM to anyone.

[Brazilian Martian]

I think I've seen a few other instances where PM contents have been brought up in the open forum and thought it was acceptable. e.g. unsolicited messages, back-stabbing of other members, outright touting or white-knighting, but no, not ordinary exchanges of information.

+1

[cueball]

Just picked up on this thread.

It's a shit thing to do, going blabbing pm info... backfires on the big mouth in the long run though.

I'll say this though, I can count on one hand the amount of lads on here I trust with pm info and even that trust has been built gradually and not given wide open.

Trust is built slowly and fucked up quickly.

[Blackpool Rock]

A PM should by definition be personal / private so sharing this info freely goes against the grain especially if it's used to curry favour or drops another punter in it.
I only fully trust a couple of people in civvy life and this is a murky game we play so best not to fully trust anyone although there are a few who i'm happy to share info with as they have proven themselves over a few years.

However best to take the stance that anything you do tell someone could potentially get out and be traced back to you, as someone once said to me - Everybody has a trusted friend who has a trusted friend etc etc then within 5 or 6 times of being passed on everybody knows

[mrhappypants]

I think I've seen a few other instances where PM contents have been brought up in the open forum and thought it was acceptable. e.g. unsolicited messages, back-stabbing of other members, outright touting or white-knighting, but no, not ordinary exchanges of information.

+1. In my view there should be no absolute blanket right to privacy in a PM and any fucker who has been on here a while will know why.

[Newtothisstuff]

I'd agree that it's a decision that admin should always be left to take.
Once we 'out' either a punter or a WG in any way, we start that journey down the slippery slope. First it becomes okay to out a profile name. Then people start adding more info such as possible home town etc. At what point do we redraw the line?

You shouldn't have been 'outed' to the WG as that's not acceptable in my opinion. But if you or anyone else then does the same on here, that's arguably just as bad.

Best to leave admin to deal with it.

[381stBG]

AFAIK - Admin has access to all PMs.

correct?

With over 155,000 members there may well be quite a few messages for Admin to trawl through.. He needs a medal.

[binbag]

When I speak or write to anyone I presume it's between us and should be considered private. Of course, that's not reality but most things don't matter. However, if I use a "Private Message" system and give myself a nickname not my own, my expectations of privacy are, obviously, much higher. WHen there are sensitive topics in those "Private Messages" I would take the attitude that whoever breaks that confidence is a total shit and deserves as much abuse as can be comfortably ladled upon him. Banning is too good for the scumbag.