The elephant in the room.

[scutty brown]

Admin has left reviews up in the past unless there is proof that the visit didn't actually take place.

The real question now is what changes need to be made going forward. I've not got an answer to that, though my half-joking idea about a standard whore score (based on CAMRA's beer scoring system) may be a move in the right direction.
I certainly feel that there is a need for a better, agreed assessment system which will better aid objectivity

[np500]

Arranged marriage was it ?   

Obviously not, but then you never met my father in law, ex H W boxer / dock worker from up north, had to wait for his demise before I'd even think of punting, I can handle divorce, death by brutality is something I'd rather avoid thanks .

[Mil 34]

I've been pretty good in the past at seeing who's not telling the truth but as I don't punt much these days I've stopped paying attention to what's been happening here.
There's still some honest blokes here on the Welsh site so it's not all doom and gloom.
As I said earlier the punts I have had at portfolio were on the whole good , it's just the dodgy reviews and self promotion of the agency which is totally wrong.

[scutty brown]

I've been pretty good in the past at seeing who's not telling the truth but as I don't punt much these days I've stopped paying attention to what's been happening here.
There's still some honest blokes here on the Welsh site so it's not all doom and gloom.
As I said earlier the punts I have had at portfolio were on the whole good , it's just the dodgy reviews and self promotion of the agency which is totally wrong.

I don't think either VW or myself would disagree with you on that. At no point have we said ALL the posters are dishonest, some of the reviews are clearly placed with the best of intentions. Its the agency manipulation - which seems to have distorted some peoples views and standards - which is the problem

[Mil 34]

Totally agree

[HughJardon]

Elephant in the room,  try walking into Clytha Square twice as nice one day....multiple elephants in one room.

I think tout finding is a Marathon not a sprint,  give them enough rope and they shall hang there useless bollox ready for a swift despatch 

[RedKettle]

Why have I just read all that?  How did I get onto the Wales board?

Fuck knows, it is late and I better go to bed.

It did make me think that perhaps people in Wales need more to do with their time?  At least I had a good (and cheap) punt with a tart today, so I am mister happy posting shit!!!  (yea I know, no change there!)

I would promise to punt in Cardiff again - but I tend to get enticed into stopping in Bristol to see Rebecca!

Good night.

[vw]

There's still some honest blokes here on the Welsh site so it's not all doom and gloom.
As I said earlier the punts I have had at portfolio were on the whole good , it's just the dodgy reviews and self promotion of the agency which is totally wrong.

Of course there are some good honest guys ,the majority will be and a few bad apples.

Fact is this agency are getting so many positives and their history of posting fake reviews was not even noticed on the board, i believe that leopards don't change their spots and expect them to repeat.

No idea what was going on with on with thatguy , very suspicious though, i wonder if he is back?

One thing for sure they will get found out in the end , they always get careless .                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             

[Mikeh38]

Difficult, because its clear that some of the reviews ARE for real.
The other problem is that as I skim-read the reviews while counting them, I came to the conclusion that its not just Portfolio who are gaming the system: I think at least two other agencies are as well, though it would be bloody hard to prove: I would need several days to pull the stats, days I don't have at present.
If you were to pull all the reviews for the agencies concerned you wouldn't have much left....

The trouble is now, the genuine reviewers are tainted by the people who posted the fake reviews.

[Corus Boy]

Elephant in the room,  try walking into Clytha Square twice as nice one day....multiple elephants in one room.

Surely that should be multiple whales in the tank?  

[Mil 34]

Of course there are some good honest guys ,the majority will be and a few bad apples.

Fact is this agency are getting so many positives and their history of posting fake reviews was not even noticed on the board, i believe that leopards don't change their spots and expect them to repeat.

No idea what was going on with on with thatguy , very suspicious though, i wonder if he is back?

One thing for sure they will get found out in the end , they always get careless .           

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if that guy was still a member on here.

Who knows he could be participating in this debate

[np500]

I  understand the agency debate, and yes it looks odd with no negatives etc, but I can't make a genuine argument to my self until I have all the statistics for every region, if , and I know it's an big if , all the regions had similar results, that then says that it's just the general nature of agency reviews and makes this whole thread pointless, as I've said I've only had one visit due to reviews and it was very good, but do I go again now the address has been splashed all over here ? Good move.

[vw]

I  understand the agency debate, and yes it looks odd with no negatives etc, but I can't make a genuine argument to my self until I have all the statistics for every region, if , and I know it's an big if , all the regions had similar results, that then says that it's just the general nature of agency reviews and makes this whole thread pointless, as I've said I've only had one visit due to reviews and it was very good, but do I go again now the address has been splashed all over here ? Good move.

The agency are shady and up to no good, they have been proven to do fake reviews by the owner of the site and highly likely have other accounts or some fanboys in their pocket.

Not sure why you are being such a crybaby about it?

i won't be going anywhere. i started this i spotted it scutty thought i was causing a fuss about nothing but investigated and come up with shocking figures and agreed with me.

If you want people out of wales you best report to admin to remove people from the board.  Good luck with that.

[np500]

I've said I understand the points made, and I agree , there are agency's all over the country, I want to know how different we are here compared to the rest of the U.K., if no different,  I want to see every other region taken to task  as we have, I know thay get up to no good, always have , probably always will, bit like prostitution, you can ban it , but it just finds another way , my point about starting it was mr brown apearing  from no where with his graph of names , mine included spelt wrong like some school head teacher with my yearly review figures etc naming addresses where we / I have turned up for payed sex etc , we are all in this together, I don't call fellow punters disgusting names etc and don't expect someone to call me or any other punter derogatory names for basically no reason at all, maybe thay do up north, we generally don't.

[vw]

I've said I understand the points made, and I agree , there are agency's all over the country, I want to know how different we are here compared to the rest of the U.K., if no different,  I want to see every other region taken to task  as we have, I know thay get up to no good, always have , probably always will, bit like prostitution, you can ban it , but it just finds another way , my point about starting it was mr brown apearing  from no where with his graph of names , mine included spelt wrong like some school head teacher with my yearly review figures etc naming addresses where we / I have turned up for payed sex etc , we are all in this together, I don't call fellow punters disgusting names etc and don't expect someone to call me or any other punter derogatory names for basically no reason at all, maybe thay do up north, we generally don't.

The situation is very different they actually get negatives.  Pop on any board you will see something not possible with this lot negatives.

Scutty come here to prove me wrong, we have nver get on that was his initial aims i believe, and he could not prove me wrong.

did admin delete the address ?  If no then he did nothing wrong.

What disgusting names are you on about ?    Think you are being a bit delicate.

[np500]

Every review we do we never give the address , north of city Centre was my discription,  that's the protocol I believe ? I'm not going through 7 pages but his remarks to aardvark , I've met aardvark , I'm doubting many on here have better or higher qualifications, but there you go .

[vw]

Every review we do we never give the address , north of city Centre was my discription,  that's the protocol I believe ? I'm not going through 7 pages but his remarks to aardvark , I've met aardvark , I'm doubting many on here have better or higher qualifications, but there you go .

Aardvark was being a patronising and condescending dick, IMO:

Nobody here has unting qualifications and we are all free to post what we like within the rules, clearly and rule breaking will be reported and deleted.  but seems the board hate doing that and tolerate fluff, touting and white knighting.

SDo that address he posted for the head office of the agency is actually where most of you punt?  If it is going to cause punters problems maybe have a nice word with admin and explain how it is a problem for normal punters.

Maybe the owner would be wise to register the company at a different address to where it all goes down.  fact is it was so easy for him to find, anyone could anyway.

[scutty brown]

Lets revisit what we've found so far

1) We've proved (through admin's records) that Portfolio were placing fake reviews
2) We've discovered that three pro-Portfolio contributors to the Welsh board were in fact one person
3) Portfolio have dishonestly registered two UK companies in the name of Adultwork
4) The absence of any negative reviews for Portfolio seems remarkably unlikely on a statistical and factual basis.
Those are facts

[scutty brown]

Every review we do we never give the address , north of city Centre was my discription,  that's the protocol I believe ? I'm not going through 7 pages but his remarks to aardvark , I've met aardvark , I'm doubting many on here have better or higher qualifications, but there you go .

Well that's tough shit about the address really, Laurence Waxman shouldn't have registered his two bogus companies there, and he really shouldn't have made it so easy for me to link Portfolio to the same address.
I wonder what Adultwork would do if they knew what a deceitful shit he's been in registering the two
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Just remember - if I can put it together, so can anyone else. The information is all there for those who look, the internet is an amazing tool.

As for Aardvark, what has intelligence got to do with punting? To be honest I thought I was quite easy going with him, I didn't swear at him once

[charlie-mott]

Lets revisit what we've found so far

1) We've proved (through admin's records) that Portfolio were placing fake reviews
2) We've discovered that three pro-Portfolio contributors to the Welsh board were in fact one person
3) Portfolio have dishonestly registered two UK companies in the name of Adultwork
4) The absence of any negative reviews for Portfolio seems remarkably unlikely on a statistical and factual basis.
Those are facts

I suspect he uses the company name to dupe new girls into thinking he has some influence on their website. Therefore, by joining Portfolio they have an edge over the competition.

I think we can all agree that this agency are posting fake reviews and trying to influence the forum... They'd be stupid not to. It's one of the best places and cheapest places to advertise. Just a small discount or freebie here and there, and  maybe some other favours for punters.

That said, they also have some decent girls working under them and some, if not most of the reviews are genuine. If you are a genuine punter who has reviewed honestly, then you have nothing to fear and no need to defend the agency. Nobody is questioning you or the girls themselves.

[np500]

Again , agree with all your points, it's a hobby that scrapes the barrel sometimes and we understand that , and guys like me who are looking for the light relief of some sexual fun for one hour , once a month ,at the moment, don't ever think of looking to see who owns an agency, or care to be honest, we are more focused on the girl, I barly have time to visit my bookings  half the time, still , up and off to work , 10 hours on one and a half  legs, that's my challenge for the day.

[vw]

I think we can all agree that this agency are posting fake reviews and trying to influence the forum... They'd be stupid not to. It's one of the best places and cheapest places to advertise. Just a small discount or freebie here and there, and  maybe some other favours for punters.

quite a few posters getting their knickers in a twist, maybe the agency is pressuring them to silence us.

Well some of us have standards and won't allow this.

Some are protesting a bit too much IMO.

[slimboyo]

quite a few posters getting their knickers in a twist, maybe the agency is pressuring them to silence us.

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[vw]

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nothing useful to say then.

[SeekingtheTruth]

That said, they also have some decent girls working under them and some, if not most of the reviews are genuine. If you are a genuine punter who has reviewed honestly, then you have nothing to fear and no need to defend the agency. Nobody is questioning you or the girls themselves.

For me this is statement it spot on.

This seems to have got into a territorial thing now, there should be no us vs them mentality between regions. We are all on the site for the same purpose. Share information and make sure that when we spend our money it isn't wasted.

Yes there are some weak willed people out there who will let themselves get in too deep and develop EAS or allow themselves to be influenced by an agency in hopes of extra benefits, these are the ones that need to take a long hard look in the mirror and have a word with themselves. My belief is that the vast majority of the reviews are genuine but there are 1 or 2 bad apples out there. Admin does a great job of making sure they disappear when they they are found out. But it all comes back to the same point Scutty and myself discussed before. Subjectivity. Some people are just more easily pleased than others. But you find that on every board, not just Wales.

[vw]

Admin does a great job of making sure they disappear when they they are found out.

He does once reported but this region is report averse.

cannot believe nobody reported the nightwolf or lewisj

Just proves how low the standards have slipped here, or nobody cares

Admin most certainly doesn't check all profiles history or read all posts here, up to the members to monitor.

[Husqvarna360]

Virtualwaster,  I not sure if you realise but you write like you have had a connection to some of the agencies in Cardiff in the past and come across as very disgruntled with some kind of vendetta!

I wanted to raise it just in case you couldn't see that 

[SeekingtheTruth]

Virtualwaster,  I not sure if you realise but you write like you have had a connection to some of the agencies in Cardiff in the past and come across as very disgruntled with some kind of vendetta!

I wanted to raise it just in case you couldn't see that 

 

Really?

I'm kinda hoping this post was made tongue in cheek.

[vw]

Virtualwaster,  I not sure if you realise but you write like you have had a connection to some of the agencies in Cardiff in the past and come across as very disgruntled with some kind of vendetta!

I wanted to raise it just in case you couldn't see that 

No vendetta what so ever, i have this stance with dodgy agencies everywhere.

Maybe read the posts on TSE, allure newcastle, bonds newcastle and diamonds before they closed.

I just don't like the way any of them manipulate the forum, nothing personal and have reviewed 1 agency girls here.

You post like someone that doesn't give a crap on how the forum is manipulated.

[vw]

Really?

I'm kinda hoping this post was made tongue in cheek.

i think he is just a lowlife scumbag, whose most of his portfolio reviews title read like marketing speak or click bait. 

Portfolios - Maya (Very pretty, perfect caramel skin, very sexy..Wow...Wow!!)

Aimee - Portfolio (OMG! very very pretty, sexy and open minded.. WOW!!)

Maria - Portfolios (Pretty, 20 year old new to punting and very sex.. Unique!!)

Maddison - Portfolios (naturally very attractive, slim but curvy and sexy!!)

Riley - Portfolios's (Sexy red haired, lovely surprise piercings, adventurous!)

Kenzie - Portfolio (very very attractive,slim,naturally busty,incredibly sexy!!)

Alexandra - Portfolio (Slim, very naturally pretty and very posh lady.. Wow!)

Kendra - Portfolio Escorts (toned, busty and naturally very pretty)

Bambi - Portfolio

Farrah - Portfollio Escorts (WOW!!! beautiful, incredibly sexy lady)

Toni - Portfolio Escorts (this girl is stunning)

Portfolio Escorts - Kenzie

[Corus Boy]

quite a few posters getting their knickers in a twist, maybe the agency is pressuring them to silence us.

Well some of us have standards and won't allow this.

Some are protesting a bit too much IMO.

Please clarify for me;

Are you saying that if I dare to disagree with any of your points, I am doing that because I'm under pressure from the Agency to defend them?

Another point someone made, If Adultwork have not registered their business name as a Trademark or their business in the UK, then that name is not protected.

If another individual registers that name they have committed no offence, unless they use that name to 'pass off' their business as the original company.  Is there any evidence that this agency or the individual mentioned have pretended to be the original Adultwork to decieve anyone?

PS I have never used this agency, visited any of their girls, received any payment or inducement to submit this post but if anyone from the said agency is reading this...

...I don't come cheap

[np500]

All the points made by v w and Scotty are not the issue, it's the way scutty went about it, jumping in to another region ( I still don't know who he is, why should I ) chucking insults about us on block ( read back ) we had no idea what it was all about and most felt , who the fuck is this spanner,  then m38  jumps in with one stealer review and says all our reviews are suspicious or suspect, it just felt like a car crash and we were being targeted, It was the heavy handed nature of it all, maybe a class in diplomacy wouldn't go amiss before scutty takes on his next region, north east maybe. , plus about 5 threads have been hijacked  !

[Husqvarna360]

Cummon keep proffesional only to make comments like lowlife scum bag which are your words you used normally means when someone uses such words they can relate to being that type of person themselves.

I will write my reviews with fact as previously mentioned and I couldn't care less whether you like them or not but for me I have the experience of the booking when I make comment... It's strange how petty comments come in when your rattled and feeling ohhhh so sensitive about the agencies in Cardiff.

Go out and book a punt somewhere you never know you may enjoy yourself and add feedback that is helpful of course as long as it's factually correct.. 

Reviewed 50 girls on this forum and yes 10 have been at agencies and the reason why is I have had a great time so why wouldn't I return for more bookings and to complete the picture I have 41 positive feedback from the Independant girls I have met.   

[vw]

Please clarify for me;

Are you saying that if I dare to disagree with any of your points, I am doing that because I'm under pressure from the Agency to defend them?

Another point someone made, If Adultwork have not registered their business name as a Trademark or their business in the UK, then that name is not protected.

If another individual registers that name they have committed no offence, unless they use that name to 'pass off' their business as the original company.  Is there any evidence that this agency or the individual mentioned have pretended to be the original Adultwork to decieve anyone?

PS I have never used this agency, visited any of their girls, received any payment or inducement to submit this post but if anyone from the said agency is reading this...

...I don't come cheap

No some posters are defending them like blood, very suspicious IMO. I don't think many are dodgy.

Things like writing marketing headlines like this lot seem OTT.

Portfolios - Maya (Very pretty, perfect caramel skin, very sexy..Wow...Wow!!)

Aimee - Portfolio (OMG! very very pretty, sexy and open minded.. WOW!!)

Maria - Portfolios (Pretty, 20 year old new to punting and very sex.. Unique!!)

Maddison - Portfolios (naturally very attractive, slim but curvy and sexy!!)

Riley - Portfolios's (Sexy red haired, lovely surprise piercings, adventurous!)

Kenzie - Portfolio (very very attractive,slim,naturally busty,incredibly sexy!!)

Alexandra - Portfolio (Slim, very naturally pretty and very posh lady.. Wow!)

Kendra - Portfolio Escorts (toned, busty and naturally very pretty)

Farrah - Portfollio Escorts (WOW!!! beautiful, incredibly sexy lady)

Toni - Portfolio Escorts (this girl is stunning)

[vw]

Cummon keep proffesional only to make comments like lowlife scum bag which are your words you used normally means when someone uses such words they can relate to being that type of person themselves.

I will write my reviews with fact as previously mentioned and I couldn't care less whether you like them or not but for me I have the experience of the booking when I make comment... It's strange how petty comments come in when your rattled and feeling ohhhh so sensitive about the agencies in Cardiff.

Go out and book a punt somewhere you never know you may enjoy yourself and add feedback that is helpful of course as long as it's factually correct.. 

Those word have been used on forums for years, i'm not rattled , just irritated how low the standards are and the tolerance for this kind of behavior as well as tolerance of white knights and fluffies.

Maybe you just have ego problems and need the attention hence your marketing titles.

[slimboyo]

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nothing useful to say then.

Not when you're spouting bollocks, no.  Fact of the matter is, agencies will always try and puff themselves up, FACT.  It's called "Marketing", and every business across the spectrum does it. Fake reviews are a pain in the arse, yes, but ANY review site will get fakers, so get over it. 

What I want to know is, why the crusade?  If we know Portfolio (and other agencies) are bigging themselves up, then we can take reviews with a pinch of salt and (I know this may seem like a novel concept to you) MAKE UP OUR OWN MINDS who to book.  It's a free country and if people choose to book them based on reviews, then so be it.  If they have a bad punt they can review it as such.  If they have a good punt they can do likewise.  Why can't you accept the possibility that the Portfolio girls are actually trying to provide a good service? Is that too much of a leap for you?  Are there reds under their beds?  After all, good service = repeat custom and a good reputation = good business sense.  Maybe the owner chooses the girls based on their attitude as well as looks and openness? Who knows, but what I know is this whole debate is seriously fucking pointless.

[vw]

Not when you're spouting bollocks, no.  Fact of the matter is, agencies will always try and puff themselves up, FACT.  It's called "Marketing", and every business across the spectrum does it. Fake reviews are a pain in the arse, yes, but ANY review site will get fakers, so get over it. 

What I want to know is, why the crusade?  If we know Portfolio (and other agencies) are bigging themselves up, then we can take reviews with a pinch of salt and (I know this may seem like a novel concept to you) MAKE UP OUR OWN MINDS who to book.  It's a free country and if people choose to book them based on reviews, then so be it.  If they have a bad punt they can review it as such.  If they have a good punt they can do likewise.  Why can't you accept the possibility that the Portfolio girls are actually trying to provide a good service? Is that too much of a leap for you?  Are there reds under their beds?  After all, good service = repeat custom and a good reputation = good business sense.  Maybe the owner chooses the girls based on their attitude as well as looks and openness? Who knows, but what I know is this whole debate is seriously fucking pointless.

Some punters have standards and don't want fake reviews and assist in helping spot them, you clearly hate the way the site works, maybe get used to it.

If it is pointless why did admin ban them for fake reviews and since this thread has started ban a further 4 dodgy profiles.

If he thinks this is pointless maybe he could delete the thread, maybe ask him to do it for you? 

Reading is optional, maybe stop reading if you have no interest.   

[np500]

You'll not find me under no bed, but thanks for the thoughts 

[slimboyo]

Some punters have standards and don't want fake reviews and assist in helping spot them, you clearly hate the way the site works, maybe get used to it.

So we in Wales have less standards than you?  I'm not the one hating here, chum.  And once again, as you've never reviewed any girls in Wales, or agencies for that matter, how is this affecting your standards?   Another admin in waiting, or just a nosey fucker with nothing better to occupy himself with, so the crusades.

If it is pointless why did admin ban them for fake reviews and since this thread has started ban a further 4 dodgy profiles.

Actually they were banned for multiple accounts.

If he thinks this is pointless maybe he could delete the thread, maybe ask him to do it for you? 

Why would I ask him to do that?  I'm a firm believer in free speech and open opinions.  You seem very keen on getting it deleted or locked, that's the 3rd time you've suggested it. 

[vw]

You'll not find me under no bed, but thanks for the thoughts 

bonds agency in newcastle had  a girl whose boyfriend hid in the wardrobe with a tripod and camera

mu comments on a  South west agency, for those defelctors that think this is personal.  Can provide 100's of anti agency posts.

I can see the point in making people aware of the scum she works for, they ripped a punter off and did nothing but block his number.  Nice you project all the blame to maddison yet it is the scumbag pimp that ignores all the calls !

She is a big girl she chose her pimp and actions come with consequences, she will have to deal with it !

Condemned in my eyes

feel free to defend these pimps if you insist !

Maybe when she leaves them she will become passable, the pimp will keep the AW account and photos on the website

And she will be condemned to future account problems on AW forever when leaving the pimopdom, funny how their ex girls get these problems with AW  suspicious !  Alyssa, Cassandra, lk and LE all have had account problems since leaving !

One things for sure, i wont be using them, or giving any of the pimps hoes a break !

[SeekingtheTruth]

bonds agency in newcastle had  a girl whose boyfriend hid in the wardrobe with a tripod and camera

That is the lowest of the low, utter cunts.

[vw]

So we in Wales have less standards than you?  I'm not the one hating here, chum.  And once again, as you've never reviewed any girls in Wales, or agencies for that matter, how is this affecting your standards?   Another admin in waiting, or just a nosey fucker with nothing better to occupy himself with, so the crusades.

this site is self policing meaning the members help out, something you and your ilk seem to ignore.

[slimboyo]

But out of 28 of your reviews, only 3 are negative.  By your own criteria that suggests a certain "fluffiness".  Could it be that these treasures are all excellent service providers?  Is that actually possible?

[slimboyo]

this site is self policing meaning the members help out, something you and your friend lot seem to ignore.

We don't ignore it, we just don't feel that the jackboots and overcoat is a good look for us.  Live and let live, armed with a pot of salt.

[vw]

But out of 28 of your reviews, only 3 are negative.  By your own criteria that suggests a certain "fluffiness".  Could it be that these treasures are all excellent service providers?  Is that actually possible?

Really no agency can get  that many without manipulation, they have been proven to manipulate the forum.  With this history i don't believe they are.

[slimboyo]

Really no agency can get  that many without manipulation

Based on what evidence?  Please provide comparable data. Or is this just your opinion?

[Husqvarna360]

Virtualwaster,

I'm not going to comment further on this, I know my position and will always write accurate reviews from my first hand experience from the booking and take the effort to contribute to the excellent forum which isn't for my benefit because I have the memory from the booking in my mind.

I can comment with fact and have 50 reviews here with circa 10 from agencies (and not just one agency) and I have 41 all positive feedback on AW so I have commented with fact from first hand experience and the majority of the girls I have reviewed are Independant.. But this thread is offering me no value and we just seem to be going around in circles.   

[vw]

We don't ignore it, we just don't feel that the jackboots and overcoat is a good look for us.  Live and let live, armed with a pot of salt.

Your post history indicates you have not noticed or cared to report anything untoward ever.

[vw]

Virtualwaster,

I'm not going to comment further on this, I know my position

so you have run out of deflective allegations and realise you made yourself look a cunt.

[Steelworker]

I'm going to make a final comment here. Based on what I read I am quite sure the challenges derive from a passionate commitment to make this site more robust based on having seen bad stuff happen. They've been delivered in a very blunt manner, seen as aggressive and rude by some, which has provoked a very defensive response. Many responses are from seasoned members who are not the real enemy. Black and white statements like 'fluffies are useless' further elicit defensive replies. We're all human and react differently. I can't see me using aggressive language like lowlife to fellow members in future as it isn't my style. But, what I will do more of as a result of this is to comment more on dodgy stuff and actually use the report button.

VW, is there a way to move the language to less blunt in a summary recommendation you have on positive things that can be done in the contexts of reviews and posts? You'll have some personal guidelines you use, for example. This would allow members to perhaps more calmly reflect on actions they may take rather than annoyance based on perceived personal attack.

Henry Kissinger over and outb