The Phoenix Club London - Edgware Road

[womble999]

Having a bit of an unlucky with my planned punt falling through and none of the girls on my hotlist being available I was left with a spare afternoon and a lot of sexual frustration. In the end I made a last minute decision to attend the Phoenix Club (External Link/Members Only) near Edgeware Road. Phoned up at 3.15 and they confirmed there was some space at the 4pm party.

Cost was £160 for 2 hours play

The location was just a couple of minutes walk from Edgeware Road underground and really easy to find. The venue itself is a bit tired and in need of a little work but sufficient beds for play so that is the essential requirement dealt with. There were two rooms used for fun and games and a third room for relaxing with some nibbles. 

The advertised girls were:
Asia (in attendance)
Amanda (in attendance)
Monique (in attendance)
Lila (Girl who looked like her photos was there but didn't ask her name so can't confirm)
Maria (Girl who looked like her photos was there but didn't ask her name so can't confirm)

I think there were either 6 or 7 other guys there. I got chatting to a couple fellow punters in the chill out room (a fellow first timer at Phoenix and a regular) and everything was fairly relaxed.

First session was with Lila(?) who took me under her wing as it was my first time at one of their parties. We started with her giving me a BJ as I sat in a chair before switching so I could lick her pussy as she sat in the chair. I was pretty impressed by how far she could stretch her legs back as I lapped at her clit. Not quite behind her  head but not far off. She was also quite accommodating for some fingers during the process which brightens the day. Whilst I could have tongued her pussy for the entire two hours we shifted to the bed for some missionary.

Next session was with Asia in the smaller of the play rooms. We also immediately hoped into a 69 position. Asia has some good oral technique and switches in using her hand with a good tempo. Again once I was fired up we popped on the rubber and switched to some missionary. I guess Asia's oral skills must have gotten me pretty fired since I came pretty fast. A little disappointing because I'd been hoping to have an extended session with her.

After a little break Monique came into the chill out room asking if anyone wanted to play. Still feeling a bit weary but as no one else took her up on the offer I volunteered to be lead take to the main room. We had a nice session of alternating performing oral each other. Word of warning when going down on Monique, when her juices starts to flow she wraps her legs round your head with a surprising amount of pressure. Your tongue is pretty much locked on pussy.

Still a bit tired from earlier penetration wasn't going to happen but I was content to have Monique suck my cock. To my pleasant surprise Amanda came over and joined in. I'd pegged her at the start as someone I want to play with as she ticked a lot of my boxes (dark hair, good sized breasts, tattoos) but she was always busy with an other guest. Eventually Amanda took over the oral entirely, and she is good. Out of the four girls I played with at the party her technique was the best (though Asia was close behind). She worked my cock but was also attentive to my balls with my mouth and hands. Sadly those balls were still empty but she managed to get them aching with desire.

Overall I had a good time at the party, the girls were attractive and seem keen to keep the guests happy. I probably go back again, especially if Asia and Amanda were there.

However, I did find things a little vanilla for my current punting tastes. As I've punted more I find I look for escorts offering services like deep throat, squirting, etc. I think when I went there I was hoping for something a bit more intense. 

[puntingpumping1920]

5 whores and 6/7 punters...I wouldn't mind going to a party with that turnout.
 
I'm not into a pump and dump cock fest, but the party you attended, I'm comfortable with that turnout.
   
One thing I don't like is the lack of transparency on how many whores/ punters have turned up to a party. It will be great to know this information before making your journey there.

[vt]

5 whores and 6/7 punters...I wouldn't mind going to a party with that turnout.
 
I'm not into a pump and dump cock fest, but the party you attended, I'm comfortable with that turnout.
   
One thing I don't like is the lack of transparency on how many whores/ punters have turned up to a party. It will be great to know this information before making your journey there.

That kind of ratio has been typical of most of my visits so far this year, very relaxed parties, though one or two have recently reported differently.

As bookings are taken on the day mostly, it's impossible to predict which party will be busier than another, though I remember overhearing Em once say hat the 4pm party is often the least attended. They will tell you if a girl is expected to be a no-show that day, but you won't get guy numbers as some may book right up until the start time.

[HungPunter]

I've been interested in going to these parties as I'll be back in London for a few weeks in August! However recent reviews on here have been pretty negative! Did they confirm a 2:1 ratio on the phone?

[Fredbone]

I've been interested in going to these parties as I'll be back in London for a few weeks in August! However recent reviews on here have been pretty negative! Did they confirm a 2:1 ratio on the phone?

Do it.  I have been a number of time and had fun.

[womble999]

I've been interested in going to these parties as I'll be back in London for a few weeks in August! However recent reviews on here have been pretty negative! Did they confirm a 2:1 ratio on the phone?

To be honest I was having such trouble arranging anything at the last minute that afternoon I was almost thankful that someone picked up there I didn"t think to ask about ratios. In hindsight I probably should have, especially given some of the concerns raised on here.

[vt]

To be honest I was having such trouble arranging anything at the last minute that afternoon I was almost thankful that someone picked up there I didn"t think to ask about ratios. In hindsight I probably should have, especially given some of the concerns raised on here.

The recent bad publicity on here has probably put some guys off attending, so ironically overbooking will probably not be an issue going forward.

If Em is wise, she'll make sure she sticks to the advertised ratio from now on. I bet what's happened is similar to what happens on airlines, that they've been getting a percentage of no-shows, so decided to allow over-bookings to compensate, which then becomes a big problem if everyone turns up to the party. The thing is when the airlines do it, they offer passengers a cash incentive to rebook on a later flight.

[smiths]

The recent bad publicity on here has probably put some guys off attending, so ironically overbooking will probably not be an issue going forward.

If Em is wise, she'll make sure she sticks to the advertised ratio from now on. I bet what's happened is similar to what happens on airlines, that they've been getting a percentage of no-shows, so decided to allow over-bookings to compensate, which then becomes a big problem if everyone turns up to the party. The thing is when the airlines do it, they offer passengers a cash incentive to rebook on a later flight.

 Over booking could be an issue at any party in reality, as who knows how busy TPC may be at any given party, now Em is prepared to lie about the max ratio being 2.1 when it hasn't been at EVERY party as reported on here all bets are off as to what ALL punters will experience.

Yes Em should stop her low life tactics of exceeding the advertised max ratio of 2.1, or she should advertise the new actual max ratio, and inform punters of any changes to the advertised rota by putting the changes on Twitter and inform punters who ring in. All of this is in her hands to do, time will tell what she does.

[vt]

Over booking could be an issue at any party in reality, as who knows how busy TPC may be at any given party, now Em is prepared to lie about the max ratio being 2.1 when it hasn't been at EVERY party as reported on here all bets are off as to what ALL punters will experience.

Yes Em should stop her low life tactics of exceeding the advertised max ratio of 2.1, or she should advertise the new actual max ratio, and inform punters of any changes to the advertised rota by putting the changes on Twitter and inform punters who ring in. All of this is in her hands to do, time will tell what she does.

Fair point. If a provider is willing to overbook on one occasion, what is there to stop them doing it again? It's like killing the goose that lays golden eggs, taking the easy cash for an overbooked party, but spoiling your reputation and chances of return custom, it's a very short-term decision. 

They're all at it, I was at Rebecca Ryder's London Sex Party in Stockwell today, it seemed very busy, there were 4 girls playing and I did a headcount and made it 19 guys at one point and maybe one or two more arriving late, so exceeding their stated maximum 4:1 ratio. The girls were fab and soaked it up well, but tempers did get a bit frayed around the edges, so how do we get these party providers not to be greedy and overbook?? 

[TrevorN]

Fair point. If a provider is willing to overbook on one occasion, what is there to stop them doing it again? It's like killing the goose that lays golden eggs, taking the easy cash for an overbooked party, but spoiling your reputation and chances of return custom, it's a very short-term decision. 

They're all at it, I was at Rebecca Ryder's London Sex Party in Stockwell today, it seemed very busy, there were 4 girls playing and I did a headcount and made it 19 guys at one point and maybe one or two more arriving late, so exceeding their stated maximum 4:1 ratio. The girls were fab and soaked it up well, but tempers did get a bit frayed around the edges, so how do we get these party providers not to be greedy and overbook??

You can't . The market has changed . Which pimp will turn down £160 ftom a client with no guarantee they will return on another day . Em and her The  Phoenix Parties empire is full of greed nowadays along with other providers as mentioned .

All about the £ and no regard for the party goers .

[smiths]

Fair point. If a provider is willing to overbook on one occasion, what is there to stop them doing it again? It's like killing the goose that lays golden eggs, taking the easy cash for an overbooked party, but spoiling your reputation and chances of return custom, it's a very short-term decision. 

They're all at it, I was at Rebecca Ryder's London Sex Party in Stockwell today, it seemed very busy, there were 4 girls playing and I did a headcount and made it 19 guys at one point and maybe one or two more arriving late, so exceeding their stated maximum 4:1 ratio. The girls were fab and soaked it up well, but tempers did get a bit frayed around the edges, so how do we get these party providers not to be greedy and overbook?? 

I didn't say others weren't doing the same, that's no excuse for TPC to join in, they are charging a premium party price for a max ratio of 2.1, the whole basis of what they offer is now a lie, at least for some punters. Don't give these low lifes business is the only way to hit them, in the pocket.

[vt]

I didn't say others weren't doing the same, that's no excuse for TPC to join in, they are charging a premium party price for a max ratio of 2.1, the whole basis of what they offer is now a lie, at least for some punters. Don't give these low lifes business is the only way to hit them, in the pocket.

So boycott them all?? 

These have been my experiences with ratios at parties this year:

The HotBox Party in Northampton I attended on the 14th of July had 1 or 2 guys extra that hadn't confirmed but were allowed to stay. 100% deliberate failure to observe stated ratios.

LSP today had 19+ guys, so at least 3 over what there should have been, but last month had 5 girls and 16 guys, so that was within ratio. 50% failure to observe stated ratios and it also must ahve been deliberate as you have to jump through lots of hoops to get and confirm an invite for these.

TPC has had the following on my visits:

18th Jan: 4 girls & 6 guys

17th Mar: 5 girls & 7/8 guys

24th Mar: 5 girls & 7/8 guys

7th Apr: 5 girls & 9/10guys

25th Apr: 5 girls & 7 guys

12th May: 5 girls & 6/7 guys

23rd Jun: 6 girls - 11/12 guys

0% failure rate for me. But if I include my last party in 2016 which was my only one ever at LMP/TPC that hasn't observed the stated 2:1 ratio and had 2 or 3 guys over. It was 5 girls and 12/13 guys, it was described to me as a 'mistake', but I think it probably was an avoidable one. The failure rate of correct ratios in the past 8 months would be 1 in 8 or 12.5%.

Obviously it's a small sample and anecdotal rather than scientific, but it tells me who should be getting my cash next. I just hope Em can get a handle on this issue and not kill the Goose that's been laying her Golden Eggs for well over a decade now. If party providers want to ruin their reputations by being greedy and taking the short-term advantage of grabbing cash by over-booking and thereby pissing off punters, let them try it and see how long they last. 

[HungPunter]

Hmm I may give it a shot, the only two things putting me off are if there is a more then 2:1 ratio and I've also read that a lot of the girls have been changed in recent parties! At least 1 a party according to reviews here and the changes haven't exactly been upgrades from what I've read!

I think it'll be good if punters from here just put a head count / if there were any changes in the line up for any parties the attend from now or have recently attended! It'll help us keep track as well as keep Em on her toes going forward!

[smiths]

So boycott them all?? 

These have been my experiences with ratios at parties this year:

The HotBox Party in Northampton I attended on the 14th of July had 1 or 2 guys extra that hadn't confirmed but were allowed to stay. 100% deliberate failure to observe stated ratios.

LSP today had 19+ guys, so at least 3 over what there should have been, but last month had 5 girls and 16 guys, so that was within ratio. 50% failure to observe stated ratios and it also must ahve been deliberate as you have to jump through lots of hoops to get and confirm an invite for these.

TPC has had the following on my visits:

18th Jan: 4 girls & 6 guys

17th Mar: 5 girls & 7/8 guys

24th Mar: 5 girls & 7/8 guys

7th Apr: 5 girls & 9/10guys

25th Apr: 5 girls & 7 guys

12th May: 5 girls & 6/7 guys

23rd Jun: 6 girls - 11/12 guys

0% failure rate for me. But if I include my last party in 2016 which was my only one ever at LMP/TPC that hasn't observed the stated 2:1 ratio and had 2 or 3 guys over. It was 5 girls and 12/13 guys, it was described to me as a 'mistake', but I think it probably was an avoidable one. The failure rate of correct ratios in the past 8 months would be 1 in 8 or 12.5%.

Obviously it's a small sample and anecdotal rather than scientific, but it tells me who should be getting my cash next. I just hope Em can get a handle on this issue and not kill the Goose that's been laying her Golden Eggs for well over a decade now. If party providers want to ruin their reputations by being greedy and taking the short-term advantage of grabbing cash by over-booking and thereby pissing off punters, let them try it and see how long they last. 

You are trying to make TPC look good in comparison to other parties, Em is a lying low life to at least some punters so that wont wash on here now.

TPC charge premium party prices and should offer a good service at every party they run, no excuse. Not lying to any punter is in her hands, time will tell if this happens or not. All parties should be honest and its for punters bothered to post if they aren't.

[SirCharles]

You are trying to make TPC look good in comparison to other parties, Em is a lying low life to at least some punters so that wont wash on here now.

TPC charge premium party prices and should offer a good service at every party they run, no excuse. Not lying to any punter is in her hands, time will tell if this happens or not. All parties should be honest and its for punters bothered to post if they aren't.

Again and again...i will go back to TPC when @ £120...currently it is a rip off

[SirCharles]

Again and again...i will go back to TPC when @ £120...currently it is a rip off

And 120 is already a premium vs other parties

[vt]

You are trying to make TPC look good in comparison to other parties, Em is a lying low life to at least some punters so that wont wash on here now.

TPC charge premium party prices and should offer a good service at every party they run, no excuse. Not lying to any punter is in her hands, time will tell if this happens or not. All parties should be honest and its for punters bothered to post if they aren't.

I agree all parties should stick to what they advertised, anything else is not in punter's best interests and I would encourage punters to call out any instances where this is the case.

My last post was just my (somewhat limited) personal experience this year and what's guiding my thought process going forward, punters can take it or leave it as they will.

That party yesterday was an absolute scrum, I think I'd rather take my chances and pay the extra at TPC for a bit more room to move about and to get some undivided (and moresome) attention. If it wasn't for Alessa being such a star, LSP would be getting a Negative, she lifted it to Neutral. In my opinion, 2:1 at £160 at TPC beats 5:1 at £100 at LSP in any VFM comparison, assuming there are some star performers at both places.

[smiths]

I agree all parties should stick to what they advertised, anything else is not in punter's best interests and I would encourage punters to call out any instances where this is the case.

My last post was just my (somewhat limited) personal experience this year and what's guiding my thought process going forward, punters can take it or leave it as they will.

That party yesterday was an absolute scrum, I think I'd rather take my chances and pay the extra at TPC for a bit more room to move about and to get some undivided (and moresome) attention. If it wasn't for Alessa being such a star, LSP would be getting a Negative, she lifted it to Neutral. In my opinion, 2:1 at £160 at TPC beats 5:1 at £100 at LSP in any VFM comparison, assuming there are some star performers at both places.

Yes well you are biased as you tout for TPC, 4 cunts on here have been banned so far for trying to undermine UKP with their shit in connection to posts about TPC.

With you it always comes back to TPC, you slyly dig their rivals as here and say TPC is better in comparison. The issue here for me is Em is lying to at least some punters, she has descended to the gutter and is charging a premium party price with an advertised max 2.1 ratio. You go ahead and portray TPC in the best light, honest punters will hopefully post their experiences as time goes by.

[vt]

Yes well you are biased as you tout for TPC, 4 cunts on here have been banned so far for trying to undermine UKP with their shit in connection to posts about TPC.

With you it always comes back to TPC, you slyly dig their rivals as here and say TPC is better in comparison. The issue here for me is Em is lying to at least some punters, she has descended to the gutter and is charging a premium party price with an advertised max 2.1 ratio. You go ahead and portray TPC in the best light, honest punters will hopefully post their experiences as time goes by.

I'm sorry smiths, but you are making some wild accusations there! 

I'm just looking for what's best for me, as a paying punter, from all the options available. My accounts of all the parties I attend are genuine & truthful, it would be stupid for me to put up numbers and dates that are false as these could be easily discredited. Granted, any conclusions I reach are only my personal opinion, but they don't merit your accusations of slyness & touting. 

I want to see all party providers sticking to their promises as much as you do. But unlike yourself, I currently attend parties and would like to continue to attending them, so I have to make decisions going forward as to which (if any) may be deserving of my cash.

Maybe you should get down to some of these parties and give us some first-hand opinions of what you consider to be good or not. I agree with your desire to see punters interests put first, but being an armchair commentator doesn't really equip you to know what's going on at the coalface. 

[smiths]

I'm sorry smiths, but you are making some wild accusations there! 

I'm just looking for what's best for me, as a paying punter, from all the options available. My accounts of all the parties I attend are genuine & truthful, it would be stupid for me to put up numbers and dates that are false as these could be easily discredited. Granted, any conclusions I reach are only my personal opinion, but they don't merit your accusations of slyness & touting. 

I want to see all party providers sticking to their promises as much as you do. But unlike yourself, I currently attend parties and would like to continue to attending them, so I have to make decisions going forward as to which (if any) may be deserving of my cash.

Maybe you should get down to some of these parties and give us some first-hand opinions of what you consider to be good or not. I agree with your desire to see punters interests put first, but being an armchair commentator doesn't really equip you to know what's going on at the coalface. 

Posting what that banned Mark cunt did now I see, trying to undermine me, it wont work unless admin decides so, when will you people get it into your heads. UKP isn't a pimp support forum.

I will post what I like whether you like it or not, you are an arse licking TPC tout, your game now is to try to make TPC look better than its rivals. That can only work if Em starts being honest with ALL her punters from now on, if she doesn't it will get on here as there are honest punters about fortunately rather than ones like yourself.

[HungPunter]

I think I'm going to give it a shot, hopefully it will be a 2:1 Ratio!! Will just need to pick the right line up! Any tips on the women?

[Fredbone]

I think I'm going to give it a shot, hopefully it will be a 2:1 Ratio!! Will just need to pick the right line up! Any tips on the women?

My answer remains "do it" and try not to over think.  It's hard to predict in advance what will be a good event or even a great event.  It's a mixture of the girls and the punter at the event. Select the one that work best for you.

Ignore sooth sayers of doom, the ratio is not a big issue for me, I cannot keep going for two hours or the odd period of rest works for me.

"Do it" call and book today - now.

[MajorPayne]

Having a bit of an unlucky with my planned punt falling through and none of the girls on my hotlist being available I was left with a spare afternoon and a lot of sexual frustration. In the end I made a last minute decision to attend the Phoenix Club (External Link/Members Only) near Edgeware Road. Phoned up at 3.15 and they confirmed there was some space at the 4pm party.

Cost was £160 for 2 hours

However, I did find things a little vanilla for my current punting tastes. As I've punted more I find I look for escorts offering services like deep throat, squirting, etc. I think when I went there I was hoping for something a bit more intense.

If you like squirters try Philippa @ The Hot Box in Northampton.  They also do monthly parties and charge £120 for two hours

External Link/Members Only

[vt]

Posting what that banned Mark cunt did now I see, trying to undermine me, it wont work unless admin decides so, when will you people get it into your heads. UKP isn't a pimp support forum.

I will post what I like whether you like it or not, you are an arse licking TPC tout, your game now is to try to make TPC look better than its rivals. That can only work if Em starts being honest with ALL her punters from now on, if she doesn't it will get on here as there are honest punters about fortunately rather than ones like yourself.

No, just because I'm an expressing an opinion that may be slightly different to yours doesn't make me a cunt, pimp's arselicker or tout or whatever other pointless insult you can come up with. I'm not playing a game, I'm looking at the options in front of me having tried a few alternatives and deciding where to go next. 

I'm not here to support any pimp who lies to punters, I'm fully in agreement that we need honesty from all party providers and they should ALL live up to what they promise regarding lineups, ratios, etc. and punters should report any discrepancies they see between the advertising and the reality.  

Pointing out that you haven't attended any of these parties recently isn't undermining you (not that you don't try to undermine me constantly!), but a statement of fact.

[smiths]

No, just because I'm an expressing an opinion that may be slightly different to yours doesn't make me a cunt, pimp's arselicker or tout or whatever other pointless insult you can come up with. I'm not playing a game, I'm looking at the options in front of me having tried a few alternatives and deciding where to go next. 

I'm not here to support any pimp who lies to punters, I'm fully in agreement that we need honesty from all party providers and they should ALL live up to what they promise regarding lineups, ratios, etc. and punters should report any discrepancies they see between the advertising and the reality.  

Pointing out that you haven't attended any of these parties recently isn't undermining you (not that you don't try to undermine me constantly!), but a statement of fact.

 

[womble999]

If you like squirters try Philippa @ The Hot Box in Northampton.  They also do monthly parties and charge £120 for two hours

External Link/Members Only

Thanks for the recommendation. If I get to Northampton I'll give it them a whirl.

There used to be a ginger haired girl at SexyCarolinaParties called Dee (I think) who was a heavy squirter. One of the other punters brought an inflatable paddling   pool as a gift for her because she gushed so much. Haven't a clue what happened to her, which is a shame as I'm now a squirt lover.

[vt]

If you like squirters try Philippa @ The Hot Box in Northampton.  They also do monthly parties and charge £120 for two hours

External Link/Members Only

As Maverick says, more adventurous services are available from a couple of the older ladies at the HotBox parties. Francesca was offering anal & DP if you like her look.

April & Alessa at LSP were doing the PSE gagging, spitting, filthy talk, etc. Violet attempted some DP, but had to stop due to discomfort.

Some of the girls at LMP/TPC have been known to push the boundaries beyond vanilla, I've experienced filthy talk, slapping, spitting, deep-throat, gagging, squirting, anal play, girl-on-girl, FFM moresomes, lots of variety of action, just depends on the girl and your finding out what she's comfortable with.

[TrevorN]

As Maverick says, more adventurous services are available from a couple of the older ladies at the HotBox parties. Francesca was offering anal & DP if you like her look.

April & Alessa at LSP were doing the PSE gagging, spitting, filthy talk, etc. Violet attempted some DP, but had to stop due to discomfort.

Some of the girls at LMP/TPC have been known to push the boundaries beyond vanilla, I've experienced filthy talk, slapping, spitting, deep-throat, gagging, squirting, anal play, girl-on-girl, FFM moresomes, lots of variety of action, just depends on the girl and your finding out what she's comfortable with.

Can you share which ones pushed the boundaries ?

[vt]

Can you share which ones pushed the boundaries ?

Why, are you planning on attending? 

[smiths]

As Maverick says, more adventurous services are available from a couple of the older ladies at the HotBox parties. Francesca was offering anal & DP if you like her look.

April & Alessa at LSP were doing the PSE gagging, spitting, filthy talk, etc. Violet attempted some DP, but had to stop due to discomfort.

Some of the girls at LMP/TPC have been known to push the boundaries beyond vanilla, I've experienced filthy talk, slapping, spitting, deep-throat, gagging, squirting, anal play, girl-on-girl, FFM moresomes, lots of variety of action, just depends on the girl and your finding out what she's comfortable with.

Got to get the tout in, Em will once again be pleased with you.

[vt]

Got to get the tout in, Em will once again be pleased with you.

As I was also mentioning girls who offer non-vanilla services and who work for 2 other party providers on a TPC thread, it's hardly a 'tout' for TPC, is it?? 

[smiths]

As I was also mentioning girls who offer non-vanilla services and who work for 2 other party providers on a TPC thread, it's hardly a 'tout' for TPC, is it?? 

 

[TrevorN]

Some of the girls at LMP/TPC have been known to push the boundaries beyond vanilla, I've experienced filthy talk, slapping, spitting, deep-throat, gagging, squirting, anal play, girl-on-girl, FFM moresomes, lots of variety of action, just depends on the girl and your finding out what she's comfortable with.

Emma must be chuffed with you . Care to share  which girls go beyond Vanilla . I'm sure those who are thinking of going will be very greatful to you....

[higherflyer]

well, I am a veteran of Emma's parties going back over the years, and I can't remember an occasion where the ratio was a problem.
however, on my latest visit a few weeks ago, she had just moved back to near Edgware Road tube station, and the place was a semi-decorated mess. Quite a contrast to that very nice place in Hyde Park Square.
I may go tomorrow, hopefully she has now got the new place properly decorated and tidy.

[TT115]

It looks the same, I went last week, added 2 portable fans so the room is not as hot as before I didn't see much change being done since the first week of the move