Should guys inform WG of this site?

[Benjboy87]

Hi all

Quick question. Is it worth pointing out to WG about this site?
I've often wondered if they are aware such a site for punters exist and that a neg review on here could easily tarnish there reputation.

Thoughts?

[glowworm]

Tough question really, depends on the situation and Wg, I would tell newbie girls about UKP and UKE so they can pick up advice, tips etc but it's sometimes can be a problem with other WG'S especially if they feel they have had an unfair review on here, can taint a punt IMHO, so I tend to keep quite.

[Benjboy87]

I get what you are saying.

Sometimes after a punt I get the urge to say something so they know that if I am unsatisfied it will effect their business.

If that makes sense.
If a WG new I could post a negative about them maybe they wouldn't do anythig stupid? Or is that me being naieve?

[Brazilian Martian]

It's a simple no why would you want to inform a prossie about a site for punters 

When ever I hear about punters talking about this site to prossies it always makes me think of something dodgy taking place. Such as if you give me a discount I will give you a positive review which will help you get more business 

[Benjboy87]

Because of the reasons stated.

I haven't yet but wasn't sure what the common procedure is.

A hotel has to think about TripAdvisor when selling rooms to guests and they know about that site.

All I am saying is if girls new there was such a site would they make more effort to provide the service advertised.

It's why I asked the question.

[Benjboy87]

I appreciate your input as per usual mate and that makes quite alot of sense.

[MrMatrix]

Cant believe the question. OF COURSE ITS NOOOOOO. Most UK SPs know in any case. I've even been asked but deny any knowledge. Its a shit storm if they tie your negative review to your punting mobile. Why encourage the grief....

[Jas1975]

All I am saying is if girls new there was such a site would they make more effort to provide the service advertised.

But they do know the review options on AW soooo if they still provide a poor service.....

[Benjboy87]

Another very good point well made.
Again, it's why I ask the question to get an input from you guys.

[Benjboy87]

Unfortunately with AW is they can hide feedback and also half of it I think is made up.

Also can only leave feedback if booked through the site.

[NigelF]

Unless they're brand spanking new to industry (and didn't do any/much research before entering) they'll know about UKP. It's extremely unlikely you'll be the first to inform them. Also, there's hordes of fluffies out their who're eager to inform WGs about any chatter about them, especially reviews.

[SeekingtheTruth]

So you want to use UKP to try and leverage a better service?

[Benjboy87]

All I am asking if it's a conversation anyone has had with a WG.

Has anyone ever had a WG ask them to review on here before?

[oohermrs]

No, hasn't happened to date.

The subject of this site has come up once or twice in the last 12/18 months in conversations with SPs, but it's been more a case of "I know if I get a shite review on UKP it'll lead to a downturn in business for a 2-3 month period..."

I've never used this site as any sort of leverage for a discount and never would do, but the analogy to trip advisor is probably a pretty good one.

[Benjboy87]

I would never use leverage to get a discount.

I will always pay the asking price but also have a right to complain on here if I thought it was a waste of money.

Just as I have the right to post a review on trip advisor if I thought the hotel I stayed at was shite.

Be interesting to see if anyone has ever had a WG offer a discount to a punter to write a positive review or if anyone has had a WG generally ask them if they are aware of the site.

[glowworm]

I have been outed once after a review and the SP put two and two together from my punting history.
But that's been my only time.

With regard to you TripAdvisor statement my only comment is that I don't tell the restaurant or hotel that I do reviews during my visit, the information is for others users really.

[Brazilian Martian]

I have been outed once after a review and the SP put two and two together from my punting history.
But that's been my only time.

With regard to you TripAdvisor statement my only comment is that I don't tell the restaurant or hotel that I do reviews during my visit, the information is for others users really.

+100 with regard to the TripAdvisor statement

[Benjboy87]

I have been outed once after a review and the SP put two and two together from my punting history.
But that's been my only time.

With regard to you TripAdvisor statement my only comment is that I don't tell the restaurant or hotel that I do reviews during my visit, the information is for others users really.

Thanks for your input mate.

What I mean by the trip advisor is a hotel knows of the site and the risks to their reputation should they provide a bad service.

[glowworm]

Trouble is you do a negative review get found out. Maybe some hairy assed pimp takes exception or SP's don't take your bookings because your one of those awful UKP reviewers.I know it's a slim chance these things happening but IMHO don't take the chance

[Benjboy87]

Very good point.

[muddy funxter]

Ben...... no offence but it sounds to me like you want to use it as a rod to beat them with? some sort of power trip thingy

I would keep it as a business transaction if that bad let them know your gonna review on your way out if they care!

[Benjboy87]

Hi.

Thanks for your reply for The subject.

I am simply gathering information to see what fellow punters have dealt with the subject if ever bought up during a meet.

Have you ever been asked to write a review on the site?

If so how did you respond? How would you respond if asked for the first time?

So you think escorts would be more consistent with their service if they know of this site?

These are a few questions I was trying to find the answers to.

[puntingpumping1920]

I would only inform them of the site if the whore asked me advice on how to profit more on the business.
 

[Benjboy87]

That's interesting.

I've had a couple of girls say it's been quite when I have asked out of politeness.

[12 MONTHS IN A YEAR]

I would say no, for the trouble it could bring you.  As already said most know.  The only downside of not telling, if a punter has a vendetta against a WG,
easy to put up a poor review and get a mate to do the same. the WG has no real recourse.
However, just like most disagreements, both sides will give a different view. I am trying to sift who gives balanced reviews against those who just being nasty.

[notcalledchris]

Would  not bring it up.  Had one WG mention it and her concern of getting a bad review sort of as a hint to me to write a good review.   I did write her a genuine good view but left it a few weeks.  I don't like to make it too easy for them to link a specific punter to a UKP username.

[Benjboy87]

Would  not bring it up.  Had one WG mention it and her concern of getting a bad review sort of as a hint to me to write a good review.   I did write her a genuine good view but left it a few weeks.  I don't like to make it too easy for them to link a specific punter to a UKP username.

Interesting.

The question here is: do you think she gave you a good service in the fear that if they didn't then a negative review could follow?

And If that is the case then that's a good thing, right?

[MrXYZ987]

Why the continued round the houses with essentially the same Qs. It's patently fucking obvious the answer is "No".

Also strongly suspect 95% of those on here would deny all knowledge of this site as well if questioned in a general manner about its existence.

If you want to use the promise or threat of a positive or negative review on here in an attempt to enhance your punting experience that's your prerogative. But if you're going to do it just man up and do so and stop (seemingly) fishing around here looking for tacit or actual approval to do so

[Benjboy87]

Why the continued round the houses with essentially the same Qs. It's patently fucking obvious the answer is "No".

Also strongly suspect 95% of those on here would deny all knowledge of this site as well if questioned in a general manner about its existence.

If you want to use the promise or threat of a positive or negative review on here in an attempt to enhance your punting experience that's your prerogative. But if you're going to do it just man up and do so and stop (seemingly) fishing around here looking for tacit or actual approval to do so

Nice of you to talk on everyone else's behalf. Who died and made you King?

[Dick Emeroids]

You do write some boring bollocks.
Mr XYZ's point is well made and I for one totally agree with him.

[Benjboy87]

I am so glad you have a crystal ball and can predict everyone's thoughts.

Perhaps you can tell me what tonight's euro millions numbers going tobe? Perhaps post it on this thread?

And then perhaps you can post how many fingers I am holding up?

The point I made is valid. But with a name like Dick I can't say I'm surprised by your response.

[Dick Emeroids]

More bollocks. Ad nauseam.

[Big Bad R]

BBB87 you do seem to enjoy picking fights. Grow up man.

[Benjboy87]

I'm not picking fights.

I was info gathering to which I got useful responses until someone comes and try to police The site by saying what I can and cannot post.

[NigelF]

Interesting.

The question here is: do you think she gave you a good service in the fear that if they didn't then a negative review could follow?

And If that is the case then that's a good thing, right?

I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that wasn't the case because she had no idea he was a reviewer. She may have been encouraging him to sign up and post one but she obviously can't be sure he actually will. If she has the approach of treating of everyone well for fear of getting a bad review (or preferably a desire to get a good review) then that's no bad thing. I do think it's bad if you force it though (i.e. tell her you're a reviewer). The main disadvantages are:

- She may refuse to see you (that certainly happens to those with the same username on here and AW).

- It comes across as coercive/threatening/unduly pressurising. You can try to minimise it all you want but at the end of the day, it WILL come across like that/be perceived in that way. Many may also assume that you're angling for an unlisted service or a discount (even if you offer assurances to the contrary which of course can't be substantiated until it's too late). I just don't think it's a good way to operate and certainly I wouldn't like any girl I'm with to be doing something out of fear or heavy pressure. They may even perform worse than they normally do because of the pressure.

- It reduces the quality, usefulness and reliability of your review. If she's putting on a "show" for you then that's not a realistic depiction of what most punters are likely to get.

[Benjboy87]

I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that wasn't the case because she had no idea he was a reviewer. She may have been encouraging him to sign up and post one but she obviously can't be sure he actually will. If she has the approach of treating of everyone well for fear of getting a bad review (or preferably a desire to get a good review) then that's no bad thing. I do think it's bad if you force it though (i.e. tell her you're a reviewer). The main disadvantages are:

- She may refuse to see you (that certainly happens to those with the same username on here and AW).

- It comes across as coercive/threatening/unduly pressurising. You can try to minimise it all you want but at the end of the day, it WILL come across like that/be perceived in that way. Many may also assume that you're angling for an unlisted service or a discount (even if you offer assurances to the contrary which of course can't be substantiated until it's too late). I just don't think it's a good way to operate and certainly I wouldn't like any girl I'm with to be doing something out of fear or heavy pressure. They may even perform worse than they normally do because of the pressure.

- It reduces the quality, usefulness and reliability of your review. If she's putting on a "show" for you then that's not a realistic depiction of what most punters are likely to get.

Thanks for your input mate.

Having read and taking on board people's opinions. I think it's best not to bring it up in convo unless asked about it. In which case to deny all knowledge of knowing.

Does that sound about right?

[MrXYZ987]

Thanks for your input mate.

Having read and taking on board people's opinions. I think it's best not to bring it up in convo unless asked about it. In which case to deny all knowledge of knowing.

Does that sound about right?

Yes

[NigelF]

Yes

+1

[muddy funxter]

I am so glad you have a crystal ball and can predict everyone's thoughts.

Perhaps you can tell me what tonight's euro millions numbers going tobe? Perhaps post it on this thread?

And then perhaps you can post how many fingers I am holding up?

The point I made is valid. But with a name like Dick I can't say I'm surprised by your response.

I am not looking for a row.... but seems to me your just gathering input as you put it. To gain some sort of power over them some sort of napoleon complex at play I feel. Are you short?

[SaneOnes]

Why the continued round the houses with essentially the same Qs. It's patently fucking obvious the answer is "No".

Also strongly suspect 95% of those on here would deny all knowledge of this site as well if questioned in a general manner about its existence.

If you want to use the promise or threat of a positive or negative review on here in an attempt to enhance your punting experience that's your prerogative. But if you're going to do it just man up and do so and stop (seemingly) fishing around here looking for tacit or actual approval to do so

100% agree with this plus what Brazilian Martian had said.

The "hotel reviews" reference will be viable from the moment we agree to have you produce (and take part in) an advert for the telly.

No one goes in presuming the girl (unless they are well reviewed already) is aware of this site. You will be hard pressed to find girls who would ask about it. It's a huge risk from both ends - from your end it's a matter of discretion and from her end it's a matter of not coming off as desperate. I wouldn't even mention it to a newbie. It's in the same vein as casually telling a girl that she could get away with charging more.

[notcalledchris]

Interesting.

The question here is: do you think she gave you a good service in the fear that if they didn't then a negative review could follow?

And If that is the case then that's a good thing, right?

If was only brought into conversation as i was getting dresses at the end our our session.   It was obvious to her i had had a great time and had been impressed with her prefermance.   If we hadn't  clicked i suspect  she would not have mentioned it.   

[Horizontal pleasures]

Quick question. Is it worth pointing out to WG about this site?

no
not ever
never

daft question in a regional forum, it is a national question.

[NigelF]

no
not ever
never

daft question in a regional forum, it is a national question.

I agree, I've moved it to the national section, where hopefully one or two extra people will agree with what's already been said and then this thread can die.

[Private Parts]

Totally pratish thing to do. If you rely on UKP to set it up you might as well pm admin for your next nappy change
Just my opinion
 
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[hungrypunt]

Ive had wgs ask me if I know about site, the Ive also had wgs say about the "parasites" on here. In both cases Ive took a leaf from the "fake sheiks" book, made my excuses and left

[PleadInsanity]

I would'nt offer it up and if asked would simply say i've never heard of it
I can't think of any good reason for someone to mention to a prossie that they use UKP ?

[OneOfaKind]

God no. Would deny all knowledge if asked and would never talk about it.

Was asked if I wanted to leave a review by a girl recently after having the most awful experience, said no but of course I have done one to warn others, realise now she didn't say feedback so figure she meant a review on UKP - she is aware of this site and has an account here.

[Brazilian Martian]

First unofficial rule of uk punting is don't talk about uk punting with prossies 

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[Horizontal pleasures]

I agree, I've moved it to the national section, where hopefully one or two extra people will agree with what's already been said and then this thread can die.

BIG thanks.

[Sedition]

Oddly enough, it was a wg who told me about this site. No idea of its existence before.
Was she after a review? Dunno. Probably.
Did she get one?  Yes.
But she got the review she deserved on it's merits.
Since then I've never mentioned this site to a wg and wouldn't.
One other has told me she had been reviewed here, I played dumb and she didn't seem to care anyway