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Offline MrIncredible

Walked past 50A last night just before 6pm and the door was open and the light on in the first floor flat, I was meeting a friend in Ye Grapes so didn't have time to pop up. Could just be they are opening later in the day.

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Scarlet is on a xmas break until tuesday. I don't know who's covering her though.

Offline Slartysmith

Took a nostalgic walk through there last night

Doors were ajar and there was unsubtle lighting in the rooms above at 19 Trebeck, 30 Shepherd Market and 50a Shepherd Market

I didn't go in.  My memory from a long time ago of finding that the old hag in Trebeck was the lady and not the maid still gives me nightmares.

The long-ago closed flats in Market Mews and round the corner in Stanhope are still boarded up.  I'm surprised that they have not been redeveloped.

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From what I read on punting wiki, 19 Trebeck Street has been closed down.

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think its heyday was in WW2 ..but women nowadays  are more likely to be found near the Hilton on park lane ..i would say prices of rents around there is too high to operate ..street women allegedly smell like goats according to newspaper reports..

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think its heyday was in WW2 ..but women nowadays  are more likely to be found near the Hilton on park lane ..i would say prices of rents around there is too high to operate ..street women allegedly smell like goats according to newspaper reports..

When you say around the Hilton on Park Lane, do you mean street walkers?

Offline joe diddley

When you say around the Hilton on Park Lane, do you mean street walkers?

They certainly used to trawl the bars of the big hotels on Park Lane in the 80s. No idea if they still do. I knew a DJ who used to play records at one of those bars.

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When you say around the Hilton on Park Lane, do you mean street walkers?

yes they lurk around the back streets near the Hilton ..not sure what hours and days  they work

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Ah I never knew that!

maybe you can give report if u strike lucky with an old goat

Offline SwenyTodd

You'll often these girls who working in the Traders Vic or Galvins in the Hilton, or the Four Seasons and InterContinental nearby.  They will try and quote you ridiculous fees like £500 but you can easily negotiate down them to £150 to £250 depending on their mood and how late it is.

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Ah it's good to know the places to go to.

maybe you can give report if u strike lucky with an old goat

Yeah I'll let you know if I do!
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Shepherd's Market is in the paper today.

"It belongs to the trustees of the family trust of Earl Howe, who is also the deputy leader of the House of Lords. The trust has owned the flat, 50A Shepherd Market, along with more than 50 other Mayfair properties, for centuries.

Yesterday the Ministry of Defence declined to comment on whether there were any security concerns about a defence minister having a property used as a brothel".

- apparently it has been open as a brothel for over 100 years!
Do you think the family trust of Earl Howe owns the similar establishments in Soho? 
from the daily mail today. They tried charging a reporter £160 for "Whatever they want". Pricey compard to soho.  External Link/Members Only

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"It belongs to the trustees of the family trust of Earl Howe, who is also the deputy leader of the House of Lords. The trust has owned the flat, 50A Shepherd Market, along with more than 50 other Mayfair properties, for centuries.

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Do you think the family trust of Earl Howe owns the similar establishments in Soho? 

No. The clue is the mention of "Mayfair".
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Offline ralhar

50A has been open for 100 years I heard that a long time ago from a french maid... and up until around 5 or 6 years ago it even had amazing 100 year old decor... some described it as done up like a french bordello... im not sure what that is but it sounds about right.

I'm not sure this kind of exposure is good though but thanks for the link.
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I don't doubt that Sorrell has treat his staff iffy over the years, but given he can't legally answer back against these claims, it's a bit easy for two disgruntled former underlings to say they spotted him going in there. A man of his money could see better and more discreet WGs...

Offline Malvolio

I don't doubt that Sorrell has treat his staff iffy over the years, but given he can't legally answer back against these claims, it's a bit easy for two disgruntled former underlings to say they spotted him going in there. A man of his money could see better and more discreet WGs...

I agree that it's most unlikely someone who was being paid eight figures every year would be using a walk-up.

Offline joe diddley

I agree that it's most unlikely someone who was being paid eight figures every year would be using a walk-up.

With walkups it's not just the cheap price (though this is a factor for many of us on here) but the sheer seedy thrill of them. I don't know anything about the man but don't find it improbable that rich men as well as the impecunious ascend the golden stairs of the walkups in Mayfair and Soho in pursuit of that thrill.

Offline Dead Wood

With walkups it's not just the cheap price (though this is a factor for many of us on here) but the sheer seedy thrill of them. I don't know anything about the man but don't find it improbable that rich men as well as the impecunious ascend the golden stairs of the walkups in Mayfair and Soho in pursuit of that thrill.

I pass by the two walk ups on Greens Court, Soho, many times a day, so I've seen hundreds of punters come and go. They do indeed cover the full spectrum of the male species. Spotty teenagers, street sweepers, homeboys, business men.  If i were to venture a stereotype, i would say that they were shorter than average. But apart from that, Sir Martin Sorrell would fit in very well. He's clearly a dirty dog. 

Offline ralhar

yeah mayfair has serviced these gents for decades and decades... its not soho.

shepherd market has a history of rich and famous punters getting outed... I myself saw somebody rich, famous and powerful way back around 2006 down in market mews... a few months later the whole street got busted (and closed down) which is why it's still closed now... one of the girls told me that somebody tried to blackmail someone famous - I can only imagine it was the person I saw that time...

the first walk up on the left if you were heading towards hyde park... on the first floor, there was a smoking hot, petite, gap tooth russian girl there that i went to see (Jessica)... as I came up the stairs she was answering the door to a very well presented gent... even from behind I could tell he was cringing at my presence... he got spooked and said something dumb to her about a girl that used to work there... she got impatient thinking he was a time waster and told him to go upstairs but he hovered around asking the same question so she called me through thinking he was an idiot... as we passed I recognised who it was.

its the location, the thrill, the convenience... and we all know that price doesnt equate to service.

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SUNDAY TIMES TODAY

Why Shepherd Market in Mayfair will shrug off the Martin Sorrell allegations
Mayfair’s Shepherd Market won’t be rocked by claims the ad king Martin Sorrell met a prostitute there. For centuries it has been a hub of high and low life, says Emily Sheffield


Emily Sheffield
June 17 2018, 12:01am, The Sunday Times

Shepherd Market has always drawn a colourful crowd from the richest seams of society — and also inspired much gossip. The square, once home to a vibrant market, nestles in the bosom of Mayfair between Piccadilly and the grand Georgian houses of Curzon Street, enclosed by a network of alleyways lined with restaurants and art galleries.

A few yards away is the private members’ club 5 Hertford Street, run by Robin Birley and frequented by royalty and celebrities. Kate Moss, Cara Delevingne and Princess Eugenie have all been guests here. There are also two of London’s most exclusive casinos, Aspinalls and the Colony Club, where millions of pounds are gambled every night.

Since the 1730s, the powerful, the political, the royal and the criminal have visited for the nightlife, the atmosphere and its central attraction — the courtesans and prostitutes who operate here.

In the 1920s it was considered London’s most fashionable and opulent district by the city’s bohemian elite. Today its red-light district may be much diminished, but it’s just as notorious and the regulars still include the rich and famous.

In the 1980s the author and politician Jeffrey Archer met a prostitute, Monica Coghlan, in Shepherd Market. His denial of the clandestine assignation led to an ultimately disastrous libel case and imprisonment for perjury.

Last week the market was back in the headlines for similar reasons — this time because of the allegation that the advertising mogul Martin Sorrell had used company money to pay for a prostitute housed in a Victorian flat just off the square.

Sorrell, 73, has strenuously denied all the claims but has had to step down as chief executive of WPP, the multibillion-pound advertising empire that he had created.

Readers of the country’s newspapers may be chattering in delight, but the residents have seen it all before. Shepherd Market remains a close-knit community despite the influx of tourists and moneymen and a new young and wealthy Middle Eastern crowd who love the Arab restaurants.

I know the environment well, as does my husband, Tom Mullion, as he and his partners have a tiny jewel of a restaurant, Kitty Fisher’s, in the square. It attracts its own notable guests: actors, politicians, fashion editors and financiers.

It is fittingly named after one of the area’s most celebrated courtesans, Kitty Fisher, who entertained her powerful lovers round the corner in Carrington Street, now home to an NCP car park, in the 1760s.

Kitty inspired several ditties in her honour, including the nursery rhyme “Lucy Locket lost her pocket, Kitty Fisher found it”, and was reported by Casanova, no less, to have eaten a £100 banknote — worth £22,000 in today’s money — on a slice of buttered bread.

Her fame sealed the reputation of Shepherd Market, as did the annual May fair, held nearby, from which the wider area took its name. It began as a celebration of summer but then slid into far more insalubrious activities.

At night I love sitting at Kitty’s restaurant bar overlooking the square, especially when the first autumnal London mists snake around the pavements and you can imagine the area’s atmospheric history.

Above, in a few of the dilapidated Victorian windows, glow the soft red lights that are advertising the wares within. The colourful stream of customers who walk past can make for some brilliant people-watching. This particularly applies to those visiting one brothel opposite, which can be recognised by its garish purple hallway clearly visible through the open door.

The men who frequent it fall into two camps: those who creep quietly, clinging to the shadows, looking desperately left and right; and the confident striders, who never care who sees them and later emerge unruffled.

Quite a few of my father’s generation lost their virginity here in the 1960s, when it was humming with colourful characters and numerous busy brothels. Certainly a number of the older, grander society members of 5 Hertford Street are quite open about their virginal adventures in Shepherd Market. It was a rite of passage.

Nowadays most of the customers are the wealthy, immaculately dressed elder statesmen of the business world, seeking a perfunctory sexual transaction for a few hundred pounds. There is none of the glamour and allure of Kitty’s time.

When I visited last Wednesday evening, the area was heaving with its usual summer crowd, especially outside Ye Grapes pub. On weeknights it is always full of financiers from the “hedge fund alley” of Curzon Street.

Alongside Ferdi, the London outpost of the über-hip Paris restaurant, sits the door to No 30, one of only three remaining sex-worker establishments. Tash, the charismatic madam who once ruled here, has long gone and it’s now a well-run co-operative.

Further along, squished between William Hill and a cafe and hidden under the drooping branches of a vast beech, is No 50a, clearly signposted by a bright pink interior and a handwritten sign advertising “Beautiful young lady”. The women rent the rooms for a few days at a time for their regular customers.

This is where Sorrell was allegedly entering when he was snapped by two of his employees, who later fed the incriminating evidence to his senior management at WPP. (Last week WPP shareholders awarded Sorrell a £20m payout, taking his estimated net worth to more than £500m.)

There’s little evidence about who runs the flats now; they look tired and run-down, with paint peeling on the windows and dirty net curtains. Rumour has it that one old gent in a vintage gold-and-purple Bentley occasionally appears at the flats and then leaves clutching brown envelopes.

Many residents don’t want to give away incriminating details for fear of reprisal. Because, despite the moneyed sheen of the surrounding area, Shepherd Market has always attracted a criminal contingent. Crooks and gangsters remain familiar faces. They slip in for clandestine meetings with their lawyers, who use the bars and pubs as informal offices.

In the 1980s the area was a notorious haunt of the Maltese mafia, which openly ran a red-light district until the police raided and cleared everyone out.

On leaving the square last Wednesday night I bump into Birley, who is out walking his dog near his club. His easy, aristocratic charm belies how hard he works at ensuring that 5 Hertford Street remains one of the most exclusive hangouts in the world.

His eyes twinkle with unspoken gossip — he is famously discreet. And, laughing uproariously, he jokes that he probably lost his virginity around here too, before striding off into the gathering gloom.

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Offline Odetojoy

Noticed number 50a was shut today
but 30 was open.

Offline ralhar

Was it Jamie Theakston?

LOL

no... people always ask me that... I always give the same reply... if it was theakston the mews would still be open... think powerful more than celeb... I won't tell though... he's a fellow punter and I'm sure he doesnt want to be outed just like I don't.

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SUNDAY TIMES TODAY



thanks for this... an entertaining read... its a shame she isnt more honest about there's no red light district left anymore and the truth behind it's demise though...

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Well a "broadsheet acceptable" summary there with some self-satisfied "Oh, gosh, I'm so naughty!" Erotic Review-type commentary.

Write something from a grotty flat in Leyton with Glade Plug-Ins working overtime and then we talk.

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LOL

no... people always ask me that... I always give the same reply... if it was theakston the mews would still be open... think powerful more than celeb... I won't tell though... he's a fellow punter and I'm sure he doesnt want to be outed just like I don't.
Good man. Right attitude  :thumbsup:

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Good man. Right attitude  :thumbsup:

Quite right   Cynthia Payne said to the press after her conviction for brothel keeping that she wouldn't name her clients because "I may have low morals but I have high ethics".


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Kitty inspired several ditties in her honour, including the nursery rhyme “Lucy Locket lost her pocket, Kitty Fisher found it”, and was reported by Casanova, no less, to have eaten a £100 banknote — worth £22,000 in today’s money — on a slice of buttered bread

I haven't read Casanova's memoirs, so that might be accurate, but the version I read was in a book by Irving Wallace (author of 'The Seven Minutes'). He wrote that at the time Kitty's overnight fee was a hundred guineas (£105). The Duke of York (brother of King George III) had an overnight with her, then gave her a £50 note - and it was that she ate, just before barring him forever. I can't help but think that had he given her another (fnarr fnarr) she would have called it a deal.
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Well a "broadsheet acceptable" summary there with some self-satisfied "Oh, gosh, I'm so naughty!" Erotic Review-type commentary.

Write something from a grotty flat in Leyton with Glade Plug-Ins working overtime and then we talk.

yeah true and notice how the toffs can go punting and joke about it but soho punters get treated like rapists... there was just as much pimping and trafficking round there as anywhere else... it was a red light district just like any other.

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im told elenor is back at 50a monday to thursday... good luck, report back.

Offline JohnWaynesJism

im told elenor is back at 50a monday to thursday... good luck, report back.

Is that Brazilian Elena (various spellings)? Slim, long dark hair, sort of like a young Cleo Rocos? If so, great news thank you!

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no sorry its bulgerian eleanor who also worked berwick st and was very popular... plenty known about her here.

brazilian elainor went off to do legal work for the ECP I think.

Offline JohnWaynesJism

no sorry its bulgerian eleanor who also worked berwick st and was very popular... plenty known about her here.

brazilian elainor went off to do legal work for the ECP I think.

Ah, as in young, slim, very pretty brunette, had a boob job a couple of years (or more) back? If so, that's still great news, haven't seen her for ages, and thought I'd lost my chance when she left.
  I tried to see her in Berwick St once, and she was booked in advance for an hour, and every time I went back she was busy so I gave up. If It's her, I hope that doesn't start happening again, defeats the point of a walk up. Thanks again for the info!  :thumbsup:
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im told elenor is back at 50a monday to thursday... good luck, report back.

She is back, but it's Mondays AND Thursdays, not Mon-Thurs. Naughty as ever and yes the cute and short bulgarian Elenor from Berwick who did the uniforms there. 50a is the one by the phone box.

Offline MrFlirt

I've long thought, as everyone else seems to, that there are just three flats still working at Shepherd Market - 50a (the one by the phone box, reliably pretty good) and the two flats at 30 (immediately in front of the outside tables of the Italian restaurant, so it takes some balls to go in there). The lower flat #30 has at least two Thai women both called Kim working there, and actually they are both great fun - one with huge knockers who always says you've got a big cock, and one who's in her late forties and seen too much sun on her face, but has the body of a 21 year old. The upper flat is a bit more dommy and has been crap each time I've tried it.

However there is another one. Each time I've been there, I've wondered why the green door at 19 Trebeck Street is almost always partly open (held open on a chain). It looks like the back entrance to a restaurant, and there's no sign in the door, so I've always walked past. But last week I ventured up thinking I'll be arrested any moment or come face to face with a meat cleaver, it felt like a residential house. But there on the first floor is a tiny  "please ring" sign. Which I did, to be greeted by a huge black lady who proceeded to rub my cock and tell me she'll look after me. I asked what the other lady was like who apparently would be back in an hour and she said "she's like me".  I didn't partake,  but anyway unless she was a horny waitress on her break, I can state categorically that contrary to all reports to the contrary, 19 Trebeck is still a working flat.



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She is back, but it's Mondays AND Thursdays, not Mon-Thurs. Naughty as ever and yes the cute and short bulgarian Elenor from Berwick who did the uniforms there. 50a is the one by the phone box.
well I hope you review one of them or Trebeck Street soon?

Offline JohnWaynesJism

She is back, but it's Mondays AND Thursdays, not Mon-Thurs. Naughty as ever and yes the cute and short bulgarian Elenor from Berwick who did the uniforms there. 50a is the one by the phone box.

Thanks for the update, much appreciated, looks like I may have to make a trip to London on Thursday!
 Do you know what time she starts? When I used to see Brazilian Elena there (too many Elenas!), she didn't start until 2.00pm. Is that when the flat opens? Thanks again.  :thumbsup:

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Hi MyFlirt - 19 trebeck has been around for years. Used to be 2 flats but now only 1 I think. The flat you mentioned usually has asians (or was true havent been for a long time to be fair) and the maid as you discovered is up for a bit of fun. Had the same cock rubbing experience and also, at her insistance, a good grope of her massive tits but never been tempted to try her out. Maybe one day though...

Offline ralhar

wow 19 trebeck still in business... it was always well dodgy there if not outright spooky ... i suspect the "girl back in an hour" thing was some kind of hustle...

i doubt those Caribbean bag ladies don't offer more than an over priced hand job anyway... keep an eye on your wallet as well they're into all kinds of nefarious activity...

i suspect the oriental girls have long gone... not that they were any good anyway... i dont believe i've ever heard a good word said about that place... it definitely was weird and spooky though... probably the strangest walk up of them all.

I bet they know some secrets.

Offline ralhar

The lower flat #30 has at least two Thai women both called Kim working there, and actually they are both great fun - one with huge knockers who always says you've got a big cock, and one who's in her late forties and seen too much sun on her face, but has the body of a 21 year old. The upper flat is a bit more dommy and has been crap each time I've tried it.

 19 Trebeck is still a working flat.

that sign saying "kim" has been there around 20 years. they're really old those thais but glad you liked them...

with regards to the upper floor, agreed service is rarely good there (about once a decade for me) but as HP said a review or at least some info on your encounters there would be helpful and interesting to us.

the local cafes close around 10pm - 11pm for anyone worried about getting in and out.


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anyone remember porsha who worked here around 2007?  one of the loveliest girls i've met in the course of this pastime

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Thanks for the update, much appreciated, looks like I may have to make a trip to London on Thursday!
 Do you know what time she starts? When I used to see Brazilian Elena there (too many Elenas!), she didn't start until 2.00pm. Is that when the flat opens? Thanks again.  :thumbsup:


Think I am heading this way Thursday to- any tips?! Double team?

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anyone remember porsha who worked here around 2007?  one of the loveliest girls i've met in the course of this pastime

i was in costa or what ever it is / was by shepherd market tube one day quite early and this cute little sex kitten with mediterranean looks came past the window with an older lady that looked familiar and I could spot was a maid from a mile off... i did an involuntary double take and almost spilled my drink standing up to watch her go past... she played it cool but I had made such a fucking show of myself the maid looked around to make sure I wasn't following... I gave it 20 agonising minutes then speed walked down there to check out the signs (which still had names and semi accurate descriptions back then)... I fucking checked every door in business looking for "spanish babe" or "brazilian honey" or something but all I could find were the usual suspects (i was all too acquainted with the rotas back then) and "english blonde" at #52... fuck it i thought to myself she must be a phone box girl... so I gave up and went to see my favourite katrina (the red head @ #36)...

katrina always used to tip me about a very attractive english girl as well (attractive english girls were rare at the time so i didnt take it too seriously) but it wasnt for a few months and when browsing the other forum that I realised that the "english blonde" must be the exotic sex kitten that I saw that day...

the next time i saw her was in macdonalds at the bottom of grt windmill st in soho... it was closing time and she must have just finished her shift and been grabbing a snack but was coming out the door the same time as me... I had been in the toilets with jamie theakston... she looked at me looking at her and played it cool again and I watched her walk up towards soho.

never punted her sadly.


Offline JohnWaynesJism

Looking forward to your review of Jamie Theakston, what services did he offer?

Offline Mtomm69

So what’s he prices for services offered on this street?

Offline JohnWaynesJism

So what’s he prices for services offered on this street?

It's a little more expensive than Soho, I haven't been for a couple of years or more, but it used to be around £60 for 20 mins. Not sure if they offer a 10 min service, but if they do my guess is it would be around £40 +
 You pay more for the posh location and nicer rooms (compared to Soho). I'm sure someone with more up to date knowledge can confirm current prices, and opening times too would be handy.
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wow 19 trebeck still in business... it was always well dodgy there if not outright spooky ... i suspect the "girl back in an hour" thing was some kind of hustle...

i doubt those Caribbean bag ladies don't offer more than an over priced hand job anyway... keep an eye on your wallet as well they're into all kinds of nefarious activity...

i suspect the oriental girls have long gone... not that they were any good anyway... i dont believe i've ever heard a good word said about that place... it definitely was weird and spooky though... probably the strangest walk up of them all.

I bet they know some secrets.

Does anyone have more accurate info on this place? Sometimes a quick wank off a big woman is all you need, if it's not that far north of Soho prices.

Offline MrFlirt

It's a little more expensive than Soho, I haven't been for a couple of years or more, but it used to be around £60 for 20 mins. Not sure if they offer a 10 min service, but if they do my guess is it would be around £40 +
 You pay more for the posh location and nicer rooms (compared to Soho). I'm sure someone with more up to date knowledge can confirm current prices, and opening times too would be handy.

That's right it's typically £60 for 20 mins, £80 for 30 mins which actually isn't so different from Soho, the difference being that in Shepherd Market they don't do the cheap 10 minute thing. Funnily enough, when I first used to go to Shepherd Market maybe, Jesus, 20 ,23 years ago? It was then dramatically more expensive than Soho, not far off todays prices. So they've equalised  a bit, but as I say SM tends to do longer, more relaxed sessions and generally the quality is that much better.

And I still recommend both Kims!