ALICEINXWONDERLAND, Stevenage.

[James999]

Seems palerider white knight twat reported this, what a cry baby.

He said not to mention the Holicaust, not sure if that's the same thing, but he's desperate to get an angle on this, instead of blaming the daft pro$$ie that caused the problem 

[vw]

He said not to mention the Holicaust

Why not ?

Is palerider a holocaust denier or holicaust as palerider writes it ?

[Hertsgent]

That said I do agree amongst the fog of white knighting that it's not helpful to make things up about services that matter. Implying she was a good fuck if you didn't actually fuck her, reduces the value and reliability of the review. Nothing wrong with changing details that don't matter, like where, when etc to preserve anonymity.

 Notwithstanding the snowballing of the response in this thread, I agree with this comment - I mean for fucks sake....if you didn't get your cock wet, why say you did???

I'll just modify a few of my reviews to say how I managed it 9 times in an hour with my 12 inch cock 

[nervous colin]

Notwithstanding the snowballing of the response in this thread, I agree with this comment - I mean for fucks sake....if you didn't get your cock wet, why say you did???

I'll just modify a few of my reviews to say how I managed it 9 times in an hour with my 12 inch cock 

+1

[Sparta Prada]

Notwithstanding the snowballing of the response in this thread, I agree with this comment - I mean for fucks sake....if you didn't get your cock wet, why say you did???

I'll just modify a few of my reviews to say how I managed it 9 times in an hour with my 12 inch cock 

I have addressed this point a couple of times so I won't go over it again. So are you saying that it makes such a difference that I didn't actually fuck her, when the review is positive?

And by the same token, no-one has answered my question about whether she should be criticised - like I have been - about posting photos on UKE and AW that are not representative of what she looks like now. Has she got bleach blonde hair now? Should she change her profile photos?

More to the point Hertsgent, she has managed to engineer what was a positive into a negative review. Apparently I said she is 'not pretty'. Now please point out where I have said this. If you do, I will stop contributing to this forum full stop. If you can't see where I said she was 'not pretty' then maybe you will agree that she is using the whole issue about fucking as a smokescreen for her own personal insecurities over her own looks?

As much as the knights want to have their say, to what purpose is it for? To get a special relationship with Alice? I'm sure she will be horrified by that notion. You are paying her for sex. She will not see it as anything other than that. Maybe Hertsgent, nervous Colin and Pale Rider think they can get something more out of Alice?

[James999]

Apparently I said she is 'not pretty'.

From her response you can see what her real issue is, she has looked at your reviews and seen you have been fucking younger and prettier girls and that has pissed her off, and got her upset about a positive review 

[nervous colin]

Look, I am not a white knight. I have seen alice once, and it was based on positive reviews, yours included.
I pay to fuck same as everyone else , and leave an HONEST review, and I dont give a toss eitherway what others think.

[Sparta Prada]

Look, I am not a white knight. I have seen alice once, and it was based on positive reviews, yours included.
I pay to fuck same as everyone else , and leave an HONEST review, and I dont give a toss eitherway what others think.

although she says she is 37, I would say not a day older than 30.

Aside from the fact I didn't review Alice before Colin, I don't think Colin has any credibility in terms of denying he's a WK for the lovely Alice.

I'm just getting warmed up. Who's next?

[Sparta Prada]

From her response you can see what her real issue is, she has looked at your reviews and seen you have been fucking younger and prettier girls and that has pissed her off, and got her upset about a positive review 

I know, I should just punt with deluded prossies in their 40s who still think they are still comparable looks wise with Jessica Alba because their unrepresentative photos give the impression they are worth more than 7/10 in terms of looks. Who would have thought!

[Hertsgent]

I'm only saying when I read a review that I expect it to be what happened sexually (I don't care if the timing is different as that is not going to affect my punt), else what's the point?

Is all I really care about to be honest.....

[Sparta Prada]

Its all a symptom of the excessive arse licking on there, seems trying to garner sympathy and arse licks at every turn.

Glad admin deleted that nonsense anyway.

Give her her due her white night fluffy arse lickers probably advised her not to post on here.

I really cannot abide UKE, and the reason why is exactly what you have posted here. A lot of these guys act as if they don't have any contact with women other than their mum or sister, and put these girls on a pedestal.

[Sparta Prada]

I'm only saying when I read a review that I expect it to be what happened sexually (I don't care if the timing is different as that is not going to affect my punt), else what's the point?

Is all I really care about to be honest.....

Hertsgent, two direct simple questions for you.

What colour hair has Alice got now?

How old do you think she is?

If your answers are that she hasn't got bleach blonde hair and she's over 40 in your opinion, should she be criticised as much as I have been from the WKs? At least I am not selling under false pretences...

[Marmalade]

She seems to like complaining and blaming others, next she will claim to be a Holocaust survivor 

Hmmmm she's clearly over the hill: that would make her about 80.

[Marmalade]

Why not ?

Is palerider a holocaust denier or holicaust as palerider writes it ?

Maybe he think she "doesn't look that old". 

[socks]

I have addressed this point a couple of times so I won't go over it again. So are you saying that it makes such a difference that I didn't actually fuck her, when the review is positive?

Yes, it makes a massive difference. Anyone reading your review would have good confidence of repeating your, what sounded like, great fuck. But you have no idea if that's the case or not, so why say it? Fellow punters couldn't give a shit whether you fucked her yesterday or several weeks ago. They care very much when selecting a prossie, that she gives the services they want and in a way which trusted reviewers have found enjoyable. Such a fundamental lie renders all your considerable reviews much less reliable, which is a massive shame because you've done loads more than most of us!

This issue is totally separate from the antics of the stupid girl in question and you are absolutely right in my view to have changed the review from positive to negative.

[Badvicar]

Wow. So many tourists bunking in. Bored? James000 who may be kosher according to smiths, so he gets a temporary pass, VW is normally ok but seems to smell blood in the water, and some prick named after the orange condiment. OP has given  positive review on the meet. Then crazy WG goes chicken oriental. Second review or update maybe more appropriate? Always respected sparta's reviews but now will have to think twice, ok to switcheroo times a date, but services.....less cool.

[Sparta Prada]

Yes, it makes a massive difference. Anyone reading your review would have good confidence of repeating your, what sounded like, great fuck. But you have no idea if that's the case or not, so why say it? Fellow punters couldn't give a shit whether you fucked her yesterday or several weeks ago. They care very much when selecting a prossie, that she gives the services they want and in a way which trusted reviewers have found enjoyable. Such a fundamental lie renders all your considerable reviews much less reliable, which is a massive shame because you've done loads more than most of us!

This issue is totally separate from the antics of the stupid girl in question and you are absolutely right in my view to have changed the review from positive to negative.

With the exception of Richie12 and sparky22, all of the other 10 positive reviews for Alice refer to her having protected sex with them. So let's say that Alice didn't kick up a fuss over this review do you think that anyone would be none the wiser reading my positive review compared to any of the other 10 reviews that mention intercourse?

The weirdest thing about all this is that I had a really good punt. In my excitement I rashly decided to post a review immediately, which I would not usually do, so I decided to change those couple of details. With hindsight I should have done my usual of delaying the review. But I can't change that now.

Your - and anybody else's - choice whether to believe my reviews. What I would say is that yes I do review more than most of the other chaps on the East Anglia board and I do appear to do more 'first' reviews of previously unreviewed girls on UKP than any of the Alice WKs; I think only nervous Colin has posted a previously unreviewed girl on UKP and it was his first one, so hats off to him despite not being able to deny his WK status for Alice, I hope she gives him a free 30 minutes 

Thanks to you - and the majority of the posters in this thread - for agreeing this should be a negative. I still don't understand why Alice decided to throw her strop, and I guess if she asked herself the same question now, with hindsight was it worth receiving her first negative?

[Sparta Prada]

Wow. So many tourists bunking in. Bored? James000 who may be kosher according to smiths, so he gets a temporary pass, VW is normally ok but seems to smell blood in the water, and some prick named after the orange condiment. OP has given  positive review on the meet. Then crazy WG goes chicken oriental. Second review or update maybe more appropriate? Always respected sparta's reviews but now will have to think twice, ok to switcheroo times a date, but services.....less cool.

Service. Singular, not plural. Ironic considering your name

I have always enjoyed your words on the East England board BV and will continue to do so. Entirely your choice whether to believe in my reviews. Not looking for your forgiveness though as I don't believe in God.

[smiths]

Look, I am not a white knight. I have seen alice once, and it was based on positive reviews, yours included.
I pay to fuck same as everyone else , and leave an HONEST review, and I dont give a toss eitherway what others think.

So how did you base booking and punting with Alice on Spartas review where you say "yours included" seeing as it was after yours on her?

[Badvicar]

Always valued your reviews. Maybe handling of this one was botched, and back to normal service should be ensued?

[Sparta Prada]

Always valued your reviews. Maybe handling of this one was botched, and back to normal service should be ensued?

Yes. A couple of valuable lessons learned. I will return from the dark side immediately.

[Sparta Prada]

So how did you base booking and punting with Alice on Spartas review where you say "yours included" seeing as it was after yours on her?

Unless nervous Colin has a DeLorean with a flux capacitor I don't think even he knows how to answer this, smiths!

'That's the power of love' - written by nervous Colin not Huey Lewis and the News.

[Brazilian Martian]

Unless nervous Colin has a DeLorean with a flux capacitor I don't think even he knows how to answer this, smiths!

'That's the power of love' - written by nervous Colin not Huey Lewis and the News.

Bloody hell more people are being caught out as WHITE KNIGHTS

[Charlie Chalk]

Jesus, OP says "Alice is an attractive woman woman, of that there is no doubt" and she goes off one? You paid her a compliment, ffs! Think she needs a bit of a reality check and to stop listening to too many on UKE who are happy to blow smoke up her arse 24/7.

OP, I understand why you changed some of the details of the punt but in this case I think you went just a bit too far. I don't think this by itself invalidates your other reviews (which I'm sure comes as a huge relief to you  ) but it does show what a difficult balancing act reviewing can be, trying to ensure that your AW profile can't be linked back to here. Personally, I've changed dates & times and been vague about some of the specifics of what happened but haven't said that something happened when it didn't, as I think that's crossing the line. Changing to a Neg is 100% justified though, IMHO.

Anyway, that's all pretty small beer compared to Alice's meltdown. She's still on my HL if I ever find myself in the area but I'm not sure I'd go out if my way now, based on this review and her response.

[Sparta Prada]

Bloody hell more people are being caught out as WHITE KNIGHTS

Let's have a quick roll call:

nervous Colin - a relative newbie, whenever he posts in this thread he keeps digging that hole deeper and deeper.

PaleRider - never noticed him til today. But if you check his post history, as of tonight 17 of his most recent 25 posts all reference Alice. Definite Alice obsessive and WK.

Hertsgent - currently seeking permission from Alice how and when to reply to my simple two questions. He used to be so much fun but I don't think he has permission yet to answer from Alice.

[Badvicar]

Bloody hell more people are being caught out as WHITE KNIGHTS

Has London become so boring that you have to bunk in here? I comment on wg's I see in Acton etc, not one out of patch, just to score points.

[Brazilian Martian]

Has London become so boring that you have to bunk in here? I comment on wg's I see in Acton etc, not one out of patch, just to score points.

Do you own the fucking east england section. Last time I checked you're not ADMIN, so wind your neck in 

[Badvicar]

Let's have a quick roll call:

nervous Colin - a relative newbie, whenever he posts in this thread he keeps digging that hole deeper and deeper.

PaleRider - never noticed him til today. But if you check his post history, as of tonight 17 of his most recent 25 posts all reference Alice. Definite Alice obsessive and WK.

Hertsgent - currently seeking permission from Alice how and when to reply to my simple two questions. He used to be so much fun but I don't think he has permission yet to answer from Alice.

Colin and palerider may have questions to answer but. I would stick by Hertgent in quarral.

[Badvicar]

Do you own the fucking east england section. Last time I checked you're not ADMIN, so wind your neck in 

Wind your neck in son.

[fatboy]

I am with the Curate on this, never seen the girl or likely to but read a neg review that seems as if it should be positive.
After that a cat fight about who posts what, where and when which is the one thing about this site that I detest.
Shame because all of the posters have normally good and helpful things to say.
Cheers, FB 

[Hertsgent]

Let's have a quick roll call:

nervous Colin - a relative newbie, whenever he posts in this thread he keeps digging that hole deeper and deeper.

PaleRider - never noticed him til today. But if you check his post history, as of tonight 17 of his most recent 25 posts all reference Alice. Definite Alice obsessive and WK

Hertsgent - currently seeking permission from Alice how and when to reply to my simple two questions. He used to be so much fun but I don't think he has permission yet to answer from Alice.

So, anyone who disagrees with you is a WK - I get that . In my opinion it is the smear of an insecure person, perhaps the sort that makes up a story that he fucked a girl when he didn't 

Your questions to me weren't in anyway relevant to my comment, but for sake of argument let's humor you....age - is in my review if you can be arsed to read it (37-42). Hair colour : blond when I last saw her in Oct 2016 (and reviewed) - is that useful....her hair colour from 4 months ago ?

Onto reviews - reviews should be informative as to what happened. Sometimes people are criticised for not Putting enough detail in a review , not sure what the guidelines are for people that fabricate what they did ?

How many other of your reviewed girls have you failed to fuck mate ? 

[Sparta Prada]

Jesus, OP says "Alice is an attractive woman woman, of that there is no doubt" and she goes off one? You paid her a compliment, ffs! Think she needs a bit of a reality check and to stop listening to too many on UKE who are happy to blow smoke up her arse 24/7.

OP, I understand why you changed some of the details of the punt but in this case I think you went just a bit too far. I don't think this by itself invalidates your other reviews (which I'm sure comes as a huge relief to you  ) but it does show what a difficult balancing act reviewing can be, trying to ensure that your AW profile can't be linked back to here. Personally, I've changed dates & times and been vague about some of the specifics of what happened but haven't said that something happened when it didn't, as I think that's crossing the line. Changing to a Neg is 100% justified though, IMHO.

Anyway, that's all pretty small beer compared to Alice's meltdown. She's still on my HL if I ever find myself in the area but I'm not sure I'd go out if my way now, based on this review and her response.

A very balanced post. As I said before, Alice is a good SP without doubt, and you know what they say about how crazy girls are in bed!

One thing that I have wondered: would things have been any different had I told Alice I was a contributor to UKP? I have always avoided that, to get the real experience with any girl I choose to see. Alice probably thinks she was 'unlucky' to have fucked off someone who has a decent amount of UKP reviews, but no she should have counted to 10 before posting.

[Ziltoid5150]

A very balanced post. As I said before, Alice is a good SP without doubt, and you know what they say about how crazy girls are in bed!

One thing that I have wondered: would things have been any different had I told Alice I was a contributor to UKP? I have always avoided that, to get the real experience with any girl I choose to see. Alice probably thinks she was 'unlucky' to have fucked off someone who has a decent amount of UKP reviews, but no she should have counted to 10 before posting.

Who knows, maybe she was just a bit annoyed that you weren't able to fuck her.

Go on...off you go.....say it....'white knight   white kight

[Charlie Chalk]

Face pic currently on UKE 

Sure enough, she is very attractive so OP is bang on the money there. All of which makes her subsequent posts on UKE and her AW emails even more difficult to understand. PMT, maybe?? Must be contagious after Brooke Knights epic meltdown!

[Happyjose]

Who knows, maybe she was just a bit annoyed that you weren't able to fuck her.

Go on...off you go.....say it....'white knight   white kight

Yeah, because the whore in question is in it for the sex

white kight is a new one.....

[Ziltoid5150]

Blow me down with a feather, I've been rumbled by the spelling police

Yawn

[Sparta Prada]

So, anyone who disagrees with you is a WK - I get that . In my opinion it is the smear of an insecure person, perhaps the sort that makes up a story that he fucked a girl when he didn't 

Your questions to me weren't in anyway relevant to my comment, but for sake of argument let's humor you....age - is in my review if you can be arsed to read it (37-42). Hair colour : blond when I last saw her in Oct 2016 (and reviewed) - is that useful....her hair colour from 4 months ago ?

Onto reviews - reviews should be informative as to what happened. Sometimes people are criticised for not Putting enough detail in a review , not sure what the guidelines are for people that fabricate what they did ?

How many other of your reviewed girls have you failed to fuck mate ? 

As I have explained, I actually posted in haste because it was a good punt. This seems to have been forgotten by you. I changed one part of the review regarding what we did to simply try to provide some anonymity. Yes I should have delayed posting a review for a few weeks/months as I usually do, where I would have been happy to provide a frank review. Now I will not to review so soon after the punt.

I don't recall you commenting on Alice's message to me. She has somehow managed to turn a positive experience that I had into a negative. Did she have to comment like she did? No, but she chose to and probably didn't realise what would happen. I think she has learned a lesson there, as I have about not reviewing so soon, and reviewing with total honesty.

On the subject of you being called a white knight, you are forgetting that this is a punters forum. You have not made a comment about Alice's message to me where she says that I have 'made everything up', which obviously isn't true. You did not comment on where I am state she 'isn't pretty', because clearly I didn't say it. So you have effectively only read selectively what you want to see rather than the overall picture, which is why you, Colin and PaleRider have been labelled as WKs on here. And not just by me but by quite a few other guys.

I had a look at your review a year ago, you state then she's probably 5 years older than her stated age. Once again you are selectively reading what you want to! On her hair colour, if she has changed it to a different colour other than bleach blonde, why has she not updated her photos on AW and continue to post bleach blonde hair on UKE? Now there is one insecure person...

[Happyjose]

Blow me down with a feather, I've been rumbled by the spelling police

Yawn

Textbook deflecting. 

[Ziltoid5150]

Deflecting what - that fact I made a minor spelling mistake?

[Sparta Prada]

Face pic currently on UKE 

Sure enough, she is very attractive so OP is bang on the money there. All of which makes her subsequent posts on UKE and her AW emails even more difficult to understand. PMT, maybe?? Must be contagious after Brooke Knights epic meltdown!

I feel vindicated now she has issued a picture with her hair colour. So not bleached blonde like all the other photos up til now.

7/10? Yeah I still go along with that. Her beauty is not in question, it was just that the photos showed a different vision because of her hair.

[Badvicar]

Do you own the fucking east england section. Last time I checked you're not ADMIN, so wind your neck in 

Don't hide behind Admin you coward.

[Happyjose]

Deflecting what - that fact I made a minor spelling mistake?

No, the bit where you imagine that she actually gives a fuck whether a punter fucks her during a session or not.  But I guess you already knew that

Your spelling mistake was just a bit of comic relief while you were acting like a cunt. And a white knight

[Sparta Prada]

Who knows, maybe she was just a bit annoyed that you weren't able to fuck her.

Go on...off you go.....say it....'white knight   white kight

Hmm, you forgetting who is paying who in punter/service provider situations?

[Ziltoid5150]

Hmm, you forgetting who is paying who in punter/service provider situations?

Had better scuttle off on my horse then and leave you all to spit your bile at one another then

This forum has really gone to shit - totally attributed to members like you that just love to be the nasty keyboard warrior

I'd rather be called a white knight than come across as an angry little nobody

[Happyjose]

Had better scuttle off on my horse then and leave you all to spit your bile at one another then

This forum has really gone to shit - totally attributed to members like you that just love to be the nasty keyboard warrior

I'd rather be called a white knight than come across as an angry little nobody

Honestly mate, nice try, but you've no chance of a discount from this prossie. Classic mistake by a cuntstruck punter

Still, toodle pip

[Hertsgent]

As I have explained, I actually posted in haste because it was a good punt. This seems to have been forgotten by you. I changed one part of the review regarding what we did to simply try to provide some anonymity. Yes I should have delayed posting a review for a few weeks/months as I usually do, where I would have been happy to provide a frank review. Now I will not to review so soon after the punt.

I don't recall you commenting on Alice's message to me. She has somehow managed to turn a positive experience that I had into a negative. Did she have to comment like she did? No, but she chose to and probably didn't realise what would happen. I think she has learned a lesson there, as I have about not reviewing so soon, and reviewing with total honesty.

On the subject of you being called a white knight, you are forgetting that this is a punters forum. You have not made a comment about Alice's message to me where she says that I have 'made everything up', which obviously isn't true. You did not comment on where I am state she 'isn't pretty', because clearly I didn't say it. So you have effectively only read selectively what you want to see rather than the overall picture, which is why you, Colin and PaleRider have been labelled as WKs on here. And not just by me but by quite a few other guys.

I had a look at your review a year ago, you state then she's probably 5 years older than her stated age. Once again you are selectively reading what you want to! On her hair colour, if she has changed it to a different colour other than bleach blonde, why has she not updated her photos on AW and continue to post bleach blonde hair on UKE? Now there is one insecure person...

Sparta - It is precisely because it is a punters forum that I regard it as of primary importance that what actually happened is reasonably accurate. In this case there is a significant difference , that is at best misleading. To repeat - for me (and others will be different) - my priority take from reviews as a punter is what sexual activity happened and is it a safe/decent location. Then does the WG fit the AW profile sufficiently (looks, age, size etc).

I didn't comment on your entire review or exchange , because I had nothing much to say on it. Neither did people who picked up on other things (other things you like/agree on), so unless it is a forum rule that we have to do a complete critique on your posts? For what it's worth , my original"snowballing" comment (not the sexual version!) was a reference to a "how did we get here" on both sides.

Finally you state in my review that I said she is 5 years older - I didn't....I said she can't be younger, she could easily be the stated age, and I'd be surprised if she were any more that 5 years older. I can't copy my quote on this phone, but feel free too. My opinion of course, I could easily be wrong on age, like everyone can.

I think it is strange that the WG in this case would pick a fight with a positive review......strange, that is all really (hence the lack of previous comment). I find it bizarre that a reviewer makes up sexual activities that never happened, and then just waves it away as a triviality when challenged.

Happy punting

[James999]

This forum has really gone to shit -

So you are smitten with a pro$$ie, she fucks up and creates the situation that turns her positive review to a negative review, and somehow that's the fault of the forum  Fuck you must be smitten 

[Ziltoid5150]

Far from it - the messaging that led to the review change was daft-I completely agree with that

It's been a long felt belief of mine that comments shouldn't be allowed in the reviews section and the constant fighting we see on this, and many other review threads just reinforces this

Anyway-no point arguing as we all have our opinions about how we like to punt.

[Jimmyredcab]

It's been a long felt belief of mine that comments shouldn't be allowed in the reviews section and the constant fighting we see on this, and many other review threads just reinforces this

Luckily you don't decide the policy of UKPunting.   

The forum is now in it's seventh year, no other UK punting forum even comes close, that suggests to me that the format is working.   

[James999]

Far from it - the messaging that led to the review change was daft-I completely agree with that

That's good to hear, after all I didn't want to have to change it back to positive