Bareback Avoidance Thread

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IrishEmber

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Bareback as extra

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[Borabora]

Lol @ £1,000 per hour!

[webpunter]

IrishEmber

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Bareback as extra

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This is more like it where BB isn't disclosed
Yet is on the menu
 

Even if not going in commando there are a number of other risks
This is what the USP of this thread is all about

UKPers posting SPs where BB is showing a waste of time
This creates a fog / mist making it harder for UKPers who want to swerve BB by a country mile to see who the 'under the table' SPs are

Posting an SP with BB showing is like tell me something i don't know 
IMO going forward such posts with SP links offering BB should not be listed on this thread

UKPers wanting to state the obvious  can start themselves a new thread
Something like 'AW SPs that offer BB' & this could appeal to a few on here thrill chasers

The criteria for this thread should be:

• under the table BB offerings
• SPs who have advertised BB who then miraculously remove this especially after being called out on here

The only exception to 2 should be newly registered SPs where everything available & it might take a short time for them to realise & edit acordingly

If the differentiation isn't made the value of this thread will be diluted even further

[diver ted]

Contacted the following TS / TV  SP - Lara London or LaraLondon.
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447563421810 / 07563421810

Messaged me a list of rates that included bareback for £50 - ended my interest in meeting.
DT

[Punting2022]

This is more like it where BB isn't disclosed
Yet is on the menu
 

Even if not going in commando there are a number of other risks
This is what the USP of this thread is all about

UKPers posting SPs where BB is showing a waste of time
This creates a fog / mist making it harder for UKPers who want to swerve BB by a country mile to see who the 'under the table' SPs are

Posting an SP with BB showing is like tell me something i don't know 
IMO going forward such posts with SP links offering BB should not be listed on this thread

UKPers wanting to state the obvious  can start themselves a new thread
Something like 'AW SPs that offer BB' & this could appeal to a few on here thrill chasers

The criteria for this thread should be:

• under the table BB offerings
• SPs who have advertised BB who then miraculously remove this especially after being called out on here

The only exception to 2 should be newly registered SPs where everything available & it might take a short time for them to realise & edit acordingly

If the differentiation isn't made the value of this thread will be diluted even further

TBH 1000 and most girls would do Bareback. They may deny it. But 1300 for 1 hour is easy money for them. Also these higher rate girls doing it, it wont be every punter, so likely to be more higer end and people more tested etc.
Its risky yes, but their choice and her choice.

[Mr Garmin]

TBH 1000 and most girls would do Bareback. They may deny it. But 1300 for 1 hour is easy money for them. Also these higher rate girls doing it, it wont be every punter, so likely to be more higer end and people more tested etc.
Its risky yes, but their choice and her choice.

Where do you get this nonsense from?

Is it from experience or just a guess?

[Heph]

Is it from experience or just a guess?

Both of these are acceptable ways for him to form his hypothesis.

Very broadly, I agree with him. It'd still be situational- and perhaps not applied universally, but nevertheless I think it would happen. We already see this reflected in the prices of some of the young and pretty British women who make it their offer. Prices seems to start from £600> hr, but more frequently are in the area of £750-900.

[Mr Garmin]

Both of these are acceptable ways for him to form his hypothesis.

Very broadly, I agree with him. It'd still be situational- and perhaps not applied universally, but nevertheless I think it would happen. We already see this reflected in the prices of some of the young and pretty British women who make it their offer. Prices seems to start from £600> hr, but more frequently are in the area of £750-900.

It think it's much more likely that BB is available with an SB (that's not a guess, it's from experience) where prices are more like you're quoting.

However, this thread isn't about Seeking it's about escorting and MrP2022 is claiming that the majority of escorts would go BB if enough money is involved to which I asked whether that was a from his experience or just more of the bollocks that he spouts.

[Heph]

Neither he nor I had mentioned Seeking/SB; indeed it's clear from his quote-posting reply to webpunter that we're on-topic about escorts.

It's implicit that he's speculating, and if so, that's likely to be based on his personal observation and experience: I've arrived at a similar supposition to his, based on my own.

[Punting2022]

Neither he nor I had mentioned Seeking/SB; indeed it's clear from his quote-posting reply to webpunter that we're on-topic about escorts.

It's implicit that he's speculating, and if so, that's likely to be based on his personal observation and experience: I've arrived at a similar supposition to his, based on my own.

I was on about Escort, But people on the site take comments the wrong way. so lets leave it tbh

[SloeJoggs]

There was a post about Belle444xs in the TOFTT thread last year but guessing she wasn’t listing Bareback and Unprotected sex in her Enjoys back then!

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[Heph]

She periodically comes up in my searches because of her given nationality, and has done for over a year, during which time she's always listed BB

[Punting2022]

There was a post about Belle444xs in the TOFTT thread last year but guessing she wasn’t listing Bareback and Unprotected sex in her Enjoys back then!

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She has a stupid list of extra. For dfk too.i did text. Dont let bb put you off. Simples u dont pay her for it. She looks fit ngl. Bb is 1k extra i think from last coms with her. She wants a deposit too

[Wayfarer]

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JasmineThaiCute - Spitalfields 
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Review where bareback highlighted
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=462490.msg4513400#msg4513400

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Moved her upwards, signaled to grab a condom, and she attempts to start sliding on my bare cock with her pussy.

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RedHead_Ella - Bayswater
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Review where bareback highlighted
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=462497.msg4513426#msg4513426

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Pulled her up top for some more kissing, and this is where it gets bad. No condom on at all, she attempts to bareback me.

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English Kiki - aka Zoe White - Kingston upon Thames
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Review where bareback highlighted
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=462393.msg4512800#msg4512800

Bareback sex £50 extra under the Secret Menu page

[Barneypunt]

Under the Counter (UTC)

JasmineThaiCute - Spitalfields 
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Review where bareback highlighted
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=462490.msg4513400#msg4513400


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RedHead_Ella - Bayswater
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Review where bareback highlighted
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=462497.msg4513426#msg4513426


Publicly available
English Kiki - aka Zoe White - Kingston upon Thames
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Review where bareback highlighted
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=462393.msg4512800#msg4512800

Bareback sex £50 extra under the Secret Menu page

Pussy slides are not the same as bareback. Bareback is unprotected penetration. This is unfair and should be removed.

[daviemac]

Pussy slides are not the same as bareback. Bareback is unprotected penetration. This is unfair and should be removed.

Pussy slides are unprotected genital to genital contact which in some cases can be as risky as bareback.

[Barneypunt]

Pussy slides are unprotected genital to genital contact which in some cases can be as risky as bareback.

But it’s not bareback…

If this thread is for bareback as well as things that can in some case be as risky as bareback then fine. But if it’s for bareback then it’s in the wrong section.

[daviemac]

But it’s not bareback…

If this thread is for bareback as well as things that can in some case be as risky as bareback then fine. But if it’s for bareback then it’s in the wrong section.

Pussy slides are not mentioned in the post you linked to so I'm sure members will be quite able to distinguish the difference.

The only reference to pussy slides is this -

she attempts to start sliding on my bare cock with her pussy. Really unimpressed here and disappointed. Told her to stop. Really ruined the mood. Got the condom on, and finished in doggy as I wanted to leave quickly without making a big scene.

and if the OP thinks it was an attempt at BB then it belongs here.

Whether or not you think it was is irrelevant, it's what the person present thought that counts.

Either way it is not getting removed.

This thread is titled 'Bareback Avoidance Thread' and that includes attempts at BB.

[Barneypunt]

Pussy slides are not mentioned in the post you linked to so I'm sure members will be quite able to distinguish the difference.

The only reference to pussy slides is this -  and if the OP thinks it was an attempt at BB then it belongs here.

Whether or not you think it was is irrelevant, it's what the person present thought that counts.

Either way it is not getting removed.

This thread is titled 'Bareback Avoidance Thread' and that includes attempts at BB.

The person present didn’t say they thought it was an attempt at bb…only that she attempted pussy slides.

But ok it is what it is

[LLPunting]

The person present didn’t say they thought it was an attempt at bb…only that she attempted pussy slides.

But ok it is what it is

Concur.  Wayfayrer is shit stirring. Mlaw did NOT admit to bareback sex or even imply it was an attempt to have raw sex.  This Wayfarer shit could just as much be sabotage of the SP, whose record has otherwise been solid and reportedly safe for years now. This just gets her targeted by punters demanding or attempting bb without her consent. UKP needs to be a lot more careful about this, especially given the prohibition about STI accusations.

[Barneypunt]

Concur.  Wayfayrer is shit stirring. Mlaw did NOT admit to bareback sex or even imply it was an attempt to have raw sex.  This Wayfarer shit could just as much be sabotage of the SP, whose record has otherwise been solid and reportedly safe for years now. This just gets her targeted by punters demanding or attempting bb without her consent. UKP needs to be a lot more careful about this, especially given the prohibition about STI accusations.

Exactly.

[stampjones]

Concur.  Wayfayrer is shit stirring. Mlaw did NOT admit to bareback sex or even imply it was an attempt to have raw sex.  This Wayfarer shit could just as much be sabotage of the SP, whose record has otherwise been solid and reportedly safe for years now. This just gets her targeted by punters demanding or attempting bb without her consent. UKP needs to be a lot more careful about this, especially given the prohibition about STI accusations.

I agree. This pretty much echoes my thoughts

[MLawro93]

Just for the sake of clarity here, given it was my review. JasmineThaiCute attempted to initiate bare genital sliding/touching, whatever you want to call it. This wasn't an accidental movement, but fully intentional. Whether this would have led to BB, I can't say. I stopped it once she initiated the action of bare genital sliding.

She does have another review where this happened before, so its not a new thing.

In the case of RedHead_Ella, my experience with her is more clear. She made an actual attempt with my cock in her hand to get it in. Which is why I can say she attempted to bareback me, it was fairly obvious.

I hope that clears it up a bit.

[Barneypunt]

Just for the sake of clarity here, given it was my review. JasmineThaiCute attempted to initiate bare genital sliding/touching, whatever you want to call it. This wasn't an accidental movement, but fully intentional. Whether this would have led to BB, I can't say. I stopped it once she initiated the action of bare genital sliding.

She does have another review where this happened before, so its not a new thing.

In the case of RedHead_Ella, my experience with her is more clear. She made an actual attempt with my cock in her hand to get it in. Which is why I can say she attempted to bareback me, it was fairly obvious.

I hope that clears it up a bit.

Cheers Mlaw, that was understood. My issue is with Wayfarer saying that bareback was highlighted and making it definitive when it wasn’t made so by yourself.

[daviemac]

The person present didn’t say they thought it was an attempt at bb…only that she attempted pussy slides.

But ok it is what it is

If you or anyone else are happy to partake in bare pussy slides then you know the escort referred to will accommodate, for those who don't want to take the risk then they know to avoid.

Did anyone read this review BTW?

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but then does the old sliding her pussy up and down on my cock without a condom honestly it felt like BB when she was going up and down on it. Got caught up in the moment and let it happen for about 15 seconds then told her to move onto sex. No doubt it feels great but it's really grim IMO in punting. Then we do CG, missionary and then I cum in doggy.

I know some guys don't mind this and probably prefer this but I think it's really grim and way too close to BB. A disgrace when a WG does this.

If it 'feels too close to BB' then it's a fair warning.

[Barneypunt]

If you or anyone else are happy to partake in bare pussy slides then you know the escort referred to will accommodate, for those who don't want to take the risk then they know to avoid.

Did anyone read this review BTW?

If it 'feels too close to BB' then it's a fair warning.

Yeah, agree to disagree. You’re the mod so it’s your decision.

[expeller]

Kissy /www.adultwork.com/5608701 offers BB once contacted.

[thisisitfororen]

This is more like it where BB isn't disclosed
Yet is on the menu
 

Even if not going in commando there are a number of other risks
This is what the USP of this thread is all about

UKPers posting SPs where BB is showing a waste of time
This creates a fog / mist making it harder for UKPers who want to swerve BB by a country mile to see who the 'under the table' SPs are

Posting an SP with BB showing is like tell me something i don't know 
IMO going forward such posts with SP links offering BB should not be listed on this thread

UKPers wanting to state the obvious  can start themselves a new thread
Something like 'AW SPs that offer BB' & this could appeal to a few on here thrill chasers

The criteria for this thread should be:

• under the table BB offerings
• SPs who have advertised BB who then miraculously remove this especially after being called out on here

The only exception to 2 should be newly registered SPs where everything available & it might take a short time for them to realise & edit acordingly

If the differentiation isn't made the value of this thread will be diluted even further

100% this, and I'm glad someone posted this. Calling out BB on this thread where its advertised is white noise we don't need. I've had Irish Ember on my HL for some time but super glad someone has posted this.

[finn5555]

Kissy /www.adultwork.com/5608701 offers BB once contacted.

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[LLPunting]

100% this, and I'm glad someone posted this. Calling out BB on this thread where its advertised is white noise we don't need. I've had Irish Ember on my HL for some time but super glad someone has posted this.

So how do you prove under the table offerings?
If you don't actually visit then you'd have to show a genuine message thread right? ok fair enough.
If you do visit then you'd be reviewing right?

Why would unsubstantiated accusations be acceptable given that false accusers have been banned in the past (and returned and banned again)?

So the only use for this thread then is the accumulation of evidenced enquiries that, preferably, show unsolicited offers of bb.

I've requested Davie's definition of bb to be ruled on by Admin/Management and we get a definive statement (not from Davie) because the looseness of his interpretation (and the rapidity of it which seems more arbitrary than sought consensus) would mean any (incidental) contact with a bare pussy could be a risk, including grinding from a lap dance, RO, fingering, toeing, fisting, etc.

In the vein of having this thread do we also have a "BB avoidable thread" Or an "Advertised bb but doesnt do it thread" ?   

[LLPunting]

In addition, having just seen this profile External Link/Members Only do we also include SPs who post stills or video of apparent bareback that might not be their monogamous partner?

[thisisitfororen]

So how do you prove under the table offerings?
If you don't actually visit then you'd have to show a genuine message thread right? ok fair enough.
If you do visit then you'd be reviewing right?

Why would unsubstantiated accusations be acceptable given that false accusers have been banned in the past (and returned and banned again)?

So the only use for this thread then is the accumulation of evidenced enquiries that, preferably, show unsolicited offers of bb.

I'm not really sure what you're saying here. I very occasionally go to this thread because I've seen posts before of people linking profiles where bb was already advertised as a provided service. But today, I see that someone on my HL actually offers bb who hasn't listed it, which is incredibly pertinent and immediately goes into my blacklist. You could say that a screenshot of the comms offering this with their number in show + AW profile should be the bare minimum. For the most part, I don't think any of us want to falsely accuse anyone.

I've requested Davie's definition of bb to be ruled on by Admin/Management and we get a definive statement because the looseness of his interpretation would mean any (incidental) contact with a bare pussy could be a risk, including grinding from a lap dance, RO, fingering, toeing, fisting.

Why does it matter? If someone perceives it as a risk, then its worth calling out no matter the context. If an SP strips all the way down to her pussy being bare and a punter down to his dick hanging out, then both parties who genuinely want to avoid risk of genital contact, will do everything to avoid doing so. There's no "incidental" touching. If I'm getting a lapdance, I sure as hell am keeping my boxers on. Everyone here has their own perceived level of risk, and I'd rather hear from the most risk-averse person calling these things out than not.

[LLPunting]

Appreciate what you're saying @thisisitfororen but then the noise is just going back up.  Anyone seeking a booking should be reading the current whole ad/profile, reading the reviews and any other substantiated testimony.  What may have been temporarily, perhaps erroneously or mistakenly, on a profile becomes incidental and due as much consideration and caution as the "presume every SP barebacks someone (in their private lives)" category, especially since anyone "avoiding" would be wearing a condom and avoiding other unprotected contact with a bare pussy (or anus or even mouth) as well as suspected sores, warts and growths on skin.

[Maverick1808]

Kissy /www.adultwork.com/5608701 offers BB once contacted.

Have you, or anyone else contacted her and been offered bareback? I was thinking of seeing her but won’t waste my time contacting her on this occasion if she’s offering everyone BB.

[Tokidoe]

Is there an argument that this is better to be a consolidated thread for any reviews that may mention bareback or “close enough to”?

Reviews already have a profile link and arguably a noted incident rather than profile speculation. I do mention these acts in my reviews, but I tread with caution and don’t really report it in this thread?