Would a Stoma and stomach pouch bother you?

[Turtle Z]

I was asked my opinion earlier with regards to a potential new WG with a very particular issue. She has a Stoma and stomach pouch and is thinking of escorting. In essence I was asked if it would bother me? Well, to be frank, yes it would. Moreover, I got the distinct impression that the girl in question intends to hide the fact by keeping the pouch under a basque or suchlike.

Now, as I always say, there's something out there for everyone though I cant see anything but a very limited market for this particular WG. The advice I did give is that she absolutely must declare it on her profile because I'd be utterly fucked off if I was to discover this mid-punt. I suspect my advice fell on deaf ears. Would you be bothered by this and moreover, would you pay a WG for sex with this condition?

[EnglishRebecca121]

tough one i have a client with this and i adore seeing him the bag makes fuck all difference to our meets,
but as a person on the other side paying for it i can see why it may put you off and i think for sure she should mention something in her faqs x

[Jonestown]

Find it hard to imagine why anyone would have a specific interest in this poor ladies condition, other than some kind of grotesque variation on hard sports, but then you never know who's out there. Good luck to her anyway.

[Horizontal pleasures]

I saw a lady in Wolverhampton for a duo with - I cannot remember - a stoma bag or a bladder bag - and we had great fun. Both of course mature BBWs, long before UKP I think.

[James999]

It is an issue, and she knows it by the fact she plans to try to hide it 

[Jimmyredcab]

I saw a lady in Wolverhampton for a duo with - I cannot remember - a stoma bag or a bladder bag - and we had great fun. Both of course mature BBWs, long before UKP I think.

HP, with respect you are a very sick man ------------- no doubt you found it a turn on.   

[Turtle Z]

tough one i have a client with this and i adore seeing him the bag makes fuck all difference to our meets,
but as a person on the other side paying for it i can see why it may put you off and i think for sure she should mention something in her faqs x

Thanks Rebecca, and I think that's the critical difference... she wouldn't be the one paying and the punter has a right to make an informed decision.

[Gordon Bennett]

I expect complete nakedness as bookings progress. I don't think it's wise for her to try and hide it. Best approach would be to mention it in profile so no surprises or awkwardness can subsequently arise.
I would see her if she met my picky criteria and had a cracking figure.... The bags I have seen have been neat and discreet and look like square elastoplasts so it shouldn't hinder the fun at all.

[Spunky34]

Call me shallow - but yes, it would definitely bother me.

[Turtle Z]

Call me shallow - but yes, it would definitely bother me.

As I said earlier, it  would bother me too, but  I  don't think this makes either of us shallow.

[Marmalade]

Maybe she should try catwalk modelling. 

[EnglishRebecca121]

 

Maybe she should try catwalk modelling. 

i dont get it

[Home Alone]

I expect complete nakedness as bookings progress. I don't think it's wise for her to try and hide it. Best approach would be to mention it in profile so no surprises or awkwardness can subsequently arise.
I would see her if she met my picky criteria and had a cracking figure.... The bags I have seen have been neat and discreet and look like square elastoplasts so it shouldn't hinder the fun at all.

That's interesting, Gordon; the only lass I've seen so far this year kept her basque on throughout our time together - I'd no reason to think she had a medical issue - and I had no problem with that; in a way, it made her look sexier.  The basque, btw, was unequal to the task of containing her boobs and she'd erm, "forgotten" to put on her panties!

However, I totally agree with your other point; and with the OP.  I'd expect the WG to whom he refers to be honest about having to wear the bag.

As a disabled punter, whenever I make a first appointment, I always advise a WG  - especially when she's deleted "disabled clients" from her likes list -  of the nature of my disability and how it might affect the positions we can get into and add that I'll understand if she doesn't want to see me.

I've never had any problem about such straightforwardness.  Indeed, I don't know whether a lass I saw late last year saw it as a kind of challenge; but she went out of her way to introduce me to another position she felt sure I'd be able to manage.  And you know what; she was right!     I'll be knocking on her door again!

[Northerndave666]

Can't speak for others, but it would bother me, and if surprised by it could lead to rapid shrinkage of the member !

However there are options open to her, from HJ or BJ services, Gloryhole or even as a clothed escort (roleplay etc, with the declaration that clothes are not removed)

Best of luck to her

[Marmalade]

i dont get it

Then you're being obtuse. "Fat ugly prossies with medical bits hanging off them have a right to be prossies too." Yeah sure they do:  BUT THE MAJORITY OF PUNTERS PAY TO FUCK WOMEN WHO ARE PHYSICAL ATTRACTIVE WITH THEIR CLOTHES OFF. Not their 'inner beauty' or 'human rights to be considered a beautiful person.'

[Bangers and Gash]

I reckon she's taking the piss. 

[Marmalade]

I reckon she's taking the piss. 

She usually is.

Rebecca's at her best just making the odd girly noise. 

[dubs]

i dont get it

I thought it was something to to with this

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[Marmalade]

I thought it was something to to with this

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Where did you miss "stomach pouch" and "WG"?

[Bangers and Gash]

Rebecca's at her best just making the odd girly noise. 

Well, to be absolutely fair to our resident hypochondriac and pathological liar, this is her first post for ages where she hasn't thrown another pro$$ie under the bus.... and have it reverse back over the mangled corpse.

 

[Marmalade]

Well, to be absolutely fair to our resident hypochondriac and pathological liar, this is her first post for ages where she hasn't thrown another pro$$ie under the bus.... and have it reverse back over the mangled corpse.

 

true. Maybe she's just getting in gear?

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[dubs]

Where did you miss "stomach pouch" and "WG"?

You posted about catwalk modelling

[Bangers and Gash]

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I have no idea what I just watched..

[Silver Birch]

When I book a wg, her appearance and services need to fulfil a fantasy. I don't have a fantasy that includes any type of medical bag, so I wouldn't book a wg who has one.

[Sureshot]

Physical appearances play a huge part in booking a prostitute.  Colostomy bags and such are not attractive.

Not for me.

[HighlyMotivated]

She might make a few quid... don't quit the day job

[mikexxlong]

Punters are paying for a service or to fulfil a fantasy
And it should meet the customers’ requirements

It is not a ‘real’ relationship people with disfigurements, medical conditions and disabilities
Are not really attractive at the emotional level punting is on
(Unless the punter has a particular fetish involving such things)

For me in a real relationship with someone I had deeper feelings for I would be fine with it,
but as a paying customer for sexual services it does nothing for me if anything it is very off putting



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[Speedy12]

I would consider seeing a girl with a bag if she offered a preferential rate.

I think she should advertise the fact in her profile though. It would be deceptive to hide it and could cause her some embarrassment and hurt as some guys would be very nasty to her if they found out at the meet.

[Dani]

Although our AW profile is our 'shop front' where we put our best points we do also need to mention anything that a client may find unsettling or a turn off.  A stoma is not something that is known to be sexy or a 'turn on' so it does need to be mentioned on the main profile text. Not in the FAQs as many don't read them.
She will probably get bookings as some won't be bothered by it and some will go for the fetish side of it as their is quite a large fetish group for medical accessories such as stomas, artificial limbs, feeding tubes etc.

She should use it as her USP as she will appeal to those with the medical fetish and should also advertise on fetish sites

[Simmo87]

If shes happy to escort with a stoma or stomach pouch, she should do it. Simples

[Marmalade]

You posted about catwalk modelling

Maybe irony is lost in monkeys.

Similarly if she has zero intelligence she could apply to be astronaut. She won't stand a chance at that either. 

[Scotpunter]

Although our AW profile is our 'shop front' where we put our best points we do also need to mention anything that a client may find unsettling or a turn off.  A stoma is not something that is known to be sexy or a 'turn on' so it does need to be mentioned on the main profile text. Not in the FAQs as many don't read them.
She will probably get bookings as some won't be bothered by it and some will go for the fetish side of it as their is quite a large fetish group for medical accessories such as stomas, artificial limbs, feeding tubes etc.

She should use it as her USP as she will appeal to those with the medical fetish and should also advertise on fetish sites

That is the most sensible approach I'd say. I have to admit as shallow as it may sound, but no I wouldn't pay to sleep with a woman with a stoma bag.

[Turtle Z]

Then you're being obtuse. "Fat ugly prossies with medical bits hanging off them have a right to be prossies too." Yeah sure they do:  BUT THE MAJORITY OF PUNTERS PAY TO FUCK WOMEN WHO ARE PHYSICAL ATTRACTIVE WITH THEIR CLOTHES OFF. Not their 'inner beauty' or 'human rights to be considered a beautiful person.'

What a load of shite. Maybe she just doesn't get it though I'm sure in your head it was an amusing sarcasm. But then, I don't get it either and I'm not being obtuse; I just think you've drawn a fucking stupid parallel between the girl concerned trying to also get work as a catwalk model, which clearly she wouldn't do. However, what is also clear is that she may get limited work as an escort so long as she declares the problem. You, however, seem to be suggesting that any girl with a disability has no right to  provide sexual services; another dumb, elitist and bigoted observation. 
 Who the fuck said the potential WG concerned was  fat or ugly and what if she was? Yet more body politic creeping in from you. It's stating the bleeding obvious to tell us what the 'majority' of punters pay for but so fucking what! What has that got to do with this thread! It was a reasonably intelligent discussion before you and Bangers started posting your usual petty shite.

[cueball]

reading tz's op... for me, it would be a no. I've nothing against the notion if she's happy and her punters are happy no probs.....

But....

If I read it right, she's planning to hide it under a Basque? She'd be better off being on the level and stating it, finding during a punt would be far worse than knowing it was there beforehand.

[NigelF]

I'm surprised so many people have ruled out this unseen/theoretical girl. When I analyse looks I'm primarily concerned with face, size, tits and arse. The bag would obviously still be a big factor but if she was good looking then I could overlook it quite easily, particularly if she had a stunning face. However if she was pricey then the bag might tip her into the no pile.

[chickster]

Nowhere in the original posting was it suggested she was offering stoma sex. Quite the opposite as she was planning to wear a basque/corset.

There's no need to offer limited services such as HJ or BJ as she still has a normal vagina and anus.

It's most likely she is thinking about escorting for the same reasons other women do, rather than trying to cater for a niche market!

She should definitely "declare" it though as stomas can make unexpected wind related sounds or the bag could split and the secret would then be revealed to a more pissed off punter than not!

[madmania]

I'm in a unique position to answer this as I have a colostomy myself (2 in fact),  have hooked up with girls with colostomies and briefly dated one as well through a Crohns youth support group.

For me the colostomy has never been an issue in sex. As long as the girl isn't grossed out, it plays no part or has any effect on the sex or intimacy. Likewise, I had no issue with the girls who had one - was far more attracted to their personality and faces/tits/bums etc.

As such when I saw this post I wanted to say sure go for it, wouldn't bother me.

However, as much as I feel hypocritical saying it I very very much doubt I would see a WG with a colostomy or pouch of any kind.

When we punt we are buying the illusion of the "perfect" girl. And ultimately stomas are a disfigurement and are not sexy. Whilst the stoma still doesn't bother me per se, I can't imagine I would ever pick to see the girl over any normal SP without one and I imagine this might be the same for a lot of others. There is a difference between dating, relationships and civvies who come with good and bad, warts and all; and punting where you only want the best, even if it's just for the hour.

Dani raised a good point about using it as a USP to those with a medical fetish but that would actually worry me. You should never EVER penetrate the colostomy itself and whilst the thought will make most of us shiver, I know this is something that does happen and I would fear that a sick individual would take advantage and cause permanent damage to this girl.

So all in all, if she wants to do it go for it but she should be fully aware of the risks and that it will put off basically everyone without a medical fetish. I am in the most understanding position possible when it comes to all things stoma and even I am realistic that I just don't see myself going with someone with a pouch.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

"When we punt we are buying the illusion of the "perfect" girl."


LOL! arent we just!, but in my 10 plus years of punting i ain't found one anywhere, i have found a lot of disillusionment though!.


I think that as long as this lady makes it known then it's up to the punters concerned it would not bother me in fact I'd be impressed with her for escorting with this type of disability and making the best of whatever else she has to offer and all else being OK why shouldn't she?.

I can't see it as a fetish and for gods sake's don't think of shagging this opening! I bet some would though!.

[NigelF]

When we punt we are buying the illusion of the "perfect" girl.

I've never come across the "perfect" girl, certainly not one who's an escort. Some are obviously very good looking but I find it hard to believe that you punt exclusively with absolute stunners. I think you're making a really big deal out of the bag. As I and indeed yourself have said, factors such as face and tits are usually most important. If given the choice of having what would be the most facially attractive escort I've ever been with (who has a bag) vs a girl with the looks of my "typical" good/positive punt, I'd choose the looker with the bag every day of the week.

I'm not trying to pick on just you though, it's just I thought your post encapsulated a lot of other people's comments. Obviously you're perfectly entitled to your opinion nor am I bothered that you hold it, it's just that I simply find it difficult to understand because I don't hold such a view.

[WhattheFlip]

It's a hard(sports) one, that's for sure! I'd like to say I wouldn't give a crap but that's a lie. I don't want to dump on this girl, or poo-poo her ideas, so I'm gonna say no more. Don't want to be accused of talking shite. Faeces.

[Marmalade]

It is good that there are some people on the thread with a sense of reality. I see the white knights gnashing their teeth and throwing accusations – rather like the 'peace-loving' Hillary Clinton supporters who initiated violence against Trump supporters: head-in-the-cloud fuckwits, sorry if that offends you. I am simply stating the obvious. As someone with more than half a brain commented, it wouldn't be a problem for any decent individual in a relationship with the girl, but to suggest she is something other than a fairground attraction as a WG is both ridiculous and misleading.

There will always be niche markets for old prossies, fat prossies, ugly prossies, one-legged prossies ... and prossies with a colostomy bag. If she is as drop dead gorgeous in other respects as in mikexxlong's photo and with an amazing attitude well good luck to her -- she may get a few more, but that is unlikely, isn't it?? It might even be a special fantasy for hardsports enthusiasts, even if she is not willing to shit on their faces from her stomach.

[peewee]

It wouldn't bother me as I have one as well.

The only way to find out would be to test the market and be honest in any profile.

Whenever I make a booking I always let the lady know that I have a colostomy and ask if it would be a problem. I have not had many refusals.

What does annoy me is when they do not reply at all. A polite no would be sufficient.

[Horizontal pleasures]

It wouldn't bother me as I have one as well.

The only way to find out would be to test the market and be honest in any profile.

Whenever I make a booking I always let the lady know that I have a colostomy and ask if it would be a problem. I have not had many refusals.

What does annoy me is when they do not reply at all. A polite no would be sufficient.

You are not alone, I have no colostomy and it does annoy me when they do not reply at all. A polite no would be sufficient.

[Punter115]

I don't have one ...thank goodness and I personally would not be interested in punting someone with a bag, no matter how attractive and sexy she is ....definitely not for me!

[Turtle Z]

It is good that there are some people on the thread with a sense of reality. I see the white knights gnashing their teeth and throwing accusations – rather like the 'peace-loving' Hillary Clinton supporters who initiated violence against Trump supporters: head-in-the-cloud fuckwits, sorry if that offends you. I am simply stating the obvious. As someone with more than half a brain commented, it wouldn't be a problem for any decent individual in a relationship with the girl, but to suggest she is something other than a fairground attraction as a WG is both ridiculous and misleading.

There will always be niche markets for old prossies, fat prossies, ugly prossies, one-legged prossies ... and prossies with a colostomy bag. If she is as drop dead gorgeous in other respects as in mikexxlong's photo and with an amazing attitude well good luck to her -- she may get a few more, but that is unlikely, isn't it?? It might even be a special fantasy for hardsports enthusiasts, even if she is not willing to shit on their faces from her stomach.

At times you do seem to struggle to piece together a coherent thread in your posts. I've not seen anyone on this thread who doesn't have a 'sense of reality' or balance, apart from you, when you suggested that she has no business working due to her disability. Everyone so far completely accepts that she'll have nothing but an extremely limited market. You however, compare her potential for gaining work as a prossie as having the same chance of achieving work as a catwalk model. I'm sure you thought it was a brilliant observation and that we're all lucky to be exposed to your superior intellect and cutting edge wit but it was a stupid observation with no parallel.

The fact that you have now thrown around the tired old white knight accusation just proves that you have given up trying to justify the shit you posted. To describe any WG with a disability as a 'fairground attraction' is just fucking dumb but then no one actually did suggest she'd have anything other than a limited market so maybe you need to review this whole thread again to see where it was suggested otherwise. 

[Bangers and Gash]

It wouldn't bother me as I have one as well.

How do you know this particular pro$$ie will see punters who have a bag? Afterall, there's plenty of ebony chicks out there who bar black dudes.

 

[madmania]

I've never come across the "perfect" girl, certainly not one who's an escort. Some are obviously very good looking but I find it hard to believe that you punt exclusively with absolute stunners. I think you're making a really big deal out of the bag. As I and indeed yourself have said, factors such as face and tits are usually most important. If given the choice of having what would be the most facially attractive escort I've ever been with (who has a bag) vs a girl with the looks of my "typical" good/positive punt, I'd choose the looker with the bag every day of the week.

I'm not trying to pick on just you though, it's just I thought your post encapsulated a lot of other people's comments. Obviously you're perfectly entitled to your opinion nor am I bothered that you hold it, it's just that I simply find it difficult to understand because I don't hold such a view.

You're right, I haven't ever punted a "perfect" girl - but 8 and 9/10 certainly not a rare occurance. Another issue with that is that one persons 10 is another persons 7. I think the old adage that with a partner you look for someone who excels in areas which are are your weaknesses e.g. A fat guy often particularly values skinniness as a trait etc.

For me, who deals with medical problems for hours a day and has been doing so since he was a kid, might even put more importance than most on a WG being without medical issue. Perhaps it is just the idea that a good looking girl without any problems medically could be really attracted to me. Even though ofc they are acting, I like being able to pretend for an hour that they're not.

Back to what I said above, I don't have a problem with a bag and wouldn't reject a sp for having one, but in a world where there's 50 quality girls available for you to pick from, I really can't imagine that a girl with a colostomy would be top of the pile for me

Oh and for people talking about hard sports, just a reminder that if you shit in a bag, it bypasses your rectum and anal sphincter so you can't "shit on demand". She'd have to have a scenario where the bag (which she had zero control over) worked after her last punter, keep it in the bag until the hard sports punter and then empty it onto/into them. I can't imagine the lucky timing being something she could ever realistically rely on. Oh and people with colostomies often have low residue diets, further reducing the appeal to a hard sports punter (and making it even less likely that she'd have shit available for him in the first place).

[5th Musketeer]

When we punt we are buying the illusion of the "perfect" girl.

The "perfect" [working] girl to me is one who, having met me, gives me a good service of exactly what I want and is good VFM.

[madmania]

The "perfect" [working] girl to me is one who, having met me, gives me a good service of exactly what I want and is good VFM.

For me that's the definition of a good punt (and is of itself more important than looks).

However perfect, for me, involves the girl giving me this great service at a nice price who also happens to be fucking stunning 

[NigelF]

You're right, I haven't ever punted a "perfect" girl - but 8 and 9/10 certainly not a rare occurance. Another issue with that is that one persons 10 is another persons 7. I think the old adage that with a partner you look for someone who excels in areas which are are your weaknesses e.g. A fat guy often particularly values skinniness as a trait etc.

For me, who deals with medical problems for hours a day and has been doing so since he was a kid, might even put more importance than most on a WG being without medical issue. Perhaps it is just the idea that a good looking girl without any problems medically could be really attracted to me. Even though ofc they are acting, I like being able to pretend for an hour that they're not.

Back to what I said above, I don't have a problem with a bag and wouldn't reject a sp for having one, but in a world where there's 50 quality girls available for you to pick from, I really can't imagine that a girl with a colostomy would be top of the pile for me

Oh and for people talking about hard sports, just a reminder that if you shit in a bag, it bypasses your rectum and anal sphincter so you can't "shit on demand". She'd have to have a scenario where the bag (which she had zero control over) worked after her last punter, keep it in the bag until the hard sports punter and then empty it onto/into them. I can't imagine the lucky timing being something she could ever realistically rely on. Oh and people with colostomies often have low residue diets, further reducing the appeal to a hard sports punter (and making it even less likely that she'd have shit available for him in the first place).

I think I have a better understanding know. I pretty much agree as well. We can't tell exactly from the profile or even reviews on here how good looking they're going to be and since we would expect them to mention the bag on their profile, they do have a right job on their hands to jump to the top of the list. For some reason I was getting carried away with the thought of this imaginary girl being a 10/10, when actually that's very unlikely, just as it is for any other escort.

As you also say, the quality of the service is usually more important anyway.