My Banning - My side of this for people to decide

[The Outsider]

I haven't read the lengthy posts, but back to the initial reason for the banning and alleged offence, did he suppress an upcoming negative review?
Unless I'm mistaken the defense I see is that the other punter is a malicious banned member.

It doesn't seem to me that he did actually suppress the review.  However, he did suggest that he had, giving Mia scope to have a go at him. 

[Diamonddog]

Unban Good contributor / Not conclusive he actually did anything other than give the wrong advice

The only positive I can see in this whole sorry mess,is that Anth didn't get to see Suicide Squad

Lucky escape Shit film

[daviemac]

I haven't read the lengthy posts, but back to the initial reason for the banning and alleged offence, did he suppress an upcoming negative review?
Unless I'm mistaken his defense is that the other punter is a malicious banned member.

I have read it all and my take is that he told mia he'd suppressed a neg review for vicky to score brownie points. In fact he told the punter involved (who was subsequently banned) to leave a neg if it was justified then told vicky he couldn't defend any neg review as it would be seen as white knighting.

Apart from getting too involved with prossies the only thing I can see he's done wrong is claim to have done something he hasn't.

In my opinion, looking at the post he hasn't tried to suppress anything.

[stevedave]

I haven't read the lengthy posts, but back to the initial reason for the banning and alleged offence, did he suppress an upcoming negative review?
Unless I'm mistaken his defense is that the other punter is a malicious banned member.

It's tricky to see where the truth ends and the bullshit begins.

On the one hand, he's openly admitted he told Mia/Madison or whatever she's called, that he stopped Vicky getting a neg review. But he has stated here that he didn't do that...and the guy (who judging by the PM trail was a troll asshole anyway) got banned. So, in effect he did stop a neg review, by effectively getting the guy banned. But in none of the screen shots does he or anyone else actually say "don't post a negative review".

I'd say, erring on the side of caution, to let Anth stay as a result of this. With the caveat that if he gets involved in any more NE shit stirring, that's it, end of chat.

But, your decision will be final.

[OldAdmin]

I wonder how he feels about Mia now, on top of the past issues between them she's now got him temp banning for a PM he sent her back in September (which I thought was recent).

[Looking4fun]

I haven't read all of it but I would say give anthg a second chance maybe take away the use of personal messages on here & uke,this seems to be why he's got himself into this mess.

[mh]

Unless I'm mistaken his defense is that the other punter is a malicious banned member.

No, I think his defence is that he really didn't do the review suppression at all, but may have implied to the girl (I lose track of which one) that he did:

she was terrified of this guy as he had assaulted her and due to me reporting him to Admin he got banned so kind of in some senses saved her from a negative review. In all honesty all I can think now is I was trying to sound tough to Mia in retrospect. Or it was just me posting in a way that is not what is what I mean because that is not what actually happened.

It would be a shame if AnthG was banned permanently for this but Anth you're showing some very self-harming tendencies by getting so involved in what should be a simple "pay - have sex - move on" scenario.

[Shearer1955]

Anth may very well being factual with much if not all of what he says but what the fuck is he doing becoming "friends" with a working girl - sorry but he should be admonished for that alone - this was all guaranteed to end with repercussions which leaves a bad taste - lift the ban after 2 weeks to allow a bit of soul searching by anth & hopefully things can move on - if anyone wants to see this girl then let them make their own decisions.

What do we all learn from this - an escort is paid to provide a service so do not mistake it for anything else ever!!

[Tiger63]

Not one call for a banning shows what a respected....if not a little odd.....poster Anth is.

I say we keep him

[FLYING BLUE]

I have read it all and my take is that he told mia he'd suppressed a neg review for vicky to score brownie points. In fact he told the punter involved (who was subsequently banned) to leave a neg if it was justified then told vicky he couldn't defend any neg review as it would be seen as white knighting.

Apart from getting too involved with prossies the only thing I can see he's done wrong is claim to have done something he hasn't.

In my opinion, looking at the post he hasn't tried to suppress anything.

Agreed +1

[the game]

I haven't read all of it but I would say give anthg a second chance maybe take away the use of personal messages on here & uke,this seems to be why he's got himself into this mess.

By all accounts AnthG did not initiate either of the PM chats between himself and Mia or the other punter

[the game]

I wonder how he feels about Mia now, on top of the past issues between them she's now got him temp banning for a PM he sent her back in September (which I thought was recent).

She comes across as a sly piece of work. Why hold onto a PM for so long 

[Looking4fun]

By all accounts AnthG did not initiate either of the PM chats between himself and Mia or the other punter

Agreed but if he didn't reply to them he wouldn't be in this mess now.

[regular_guy]

seems like OP is guilty of replying a little too often i.e. each and every time.  best to just leave some of the messages and then this sticky situation wouldn't occur.

don't think Ant has done anything majorly wrong to warrant a full banning order

[the game]

Agreed but if he didn't reply to them he wouldn't be in this mess now.

True

[the game]

seems like OP is guilty of replying a little too often i.e. each and every time.  best to just leave some of the messages and then this sticky situation wouldn't occur.

don't think Ant has done anything majorly wrong to warrant a full banning order

I agree. Ironically the one time he did not reply, Mia reported him and got him banned.

[Kev3773]

Anth has been an idiot I'm sure he'll agree. Hopefully he will think long and hard maybe have a little break from here and perhaps escorting. He may then come back and get back to what its all about ie enjoying brief encounters with great lasses 

[BethanyDiamond]

Surely the time to report Anth was four months ago?

More drama in the north east. I know it's a man's forum but come on people. Yes he has blinkers on with Vicki but he did tell the guy to give a negative review if he wanted. The guy is harmless .

Please admin unban him. It is xmas after all xxx

[Hank Moody]

FFS,  what a car crash of a thread.  Punting is supposed to be fun.  You pay your money, you fuck, you go home. None of this shit should ever happen.

+1

[smiths]

I haven't read the lengthy posts, but back to the initial reason for the banning and alleged offence, did he suppress an upcoming negative review?
Unless I'm mistaken his defense is that the other punter is a malicious banned member.

From what I have read no he didn't but he may of told a WG he did for whatever reason, and there was another punter who may be a malicious person involved in PM exchanges. My view is Anth was suckered in BUT why he is getting suckered in after being on here for so long so easily. I don't get myself in such a scenario in the first place and in my opinion its not hard to avoid it. As long as you just punt and fuck off, and DONT want WGs to be friends or have a relationship with you this shit can be avoided, and of course as long as you don't tell a WG your real details.

So overall he has been a bit stupid in my book but if you allowed him to stay he may well learn from it and take the advice some of us have given to him, anyway I hope he would. And this post assumes there aren't any other bombshells I am not aware of to come.

[itsjustme]

Imagine you had just had a wank that night 

[Hank Moody]

The whole drama takes a bit of untangling but if I'm reading it right Anth didn't actually persuade anyone to change a review. He always comes across as a likeable guy but sometimes one who gets too involved and possibly sometimes too eager to please where WGs are concerned. The suggestion that he would try and get a review changed might just be an example of that - trying to say the right thing to an SP for brownie points?  It doesn't seem as if he did actually do that anyway, even if it was just because the poster got banned before he was able to review.

I wouldn't want to see Anth banned personally because he seems genuine and can make some good contributions but I have to agree that it would be best if he had a rethink about how he punts, how involved he gets and even if punting is the best option rather than SA or PoF. It might make his own life a lot more enjoyable and less stressful.

Posts giving details of private disputes or bust-ups might be entertaining to read sometimes but they do bring unnecessary drama to the site and can often spill over when other punters get dragged in which is a shame.

[James999]

Please admin unban him. It is xmas after all xxx

Assuming you're a pro$$ie why not give anth a free christmas ride to cheer him up, (That's if you're not a munter of course) 

[Slaine]

Not one call for a banning shows what a respected....if not a little odd.....poster Anth is.

I say we keep him

+1


He's a 1 man soap opera that fella but also very decent of Admin to let him put his case across

[James999]

Not one call for a banning shows what a respected....if not a little odd..,

That's a fucking big assumption, I don't want him banned but lets not start to make him into the second fucking messiah 

[Tiger63]

That's a fucking big assumption, I don't want him banned but lets not start to make him into the second fucking messiah 

Eh?

[Madone1]

Fuck that was long winded sat on the toilet at work reading that has resulted in some serious pins and needles.

AnthG has made a real tit of himself here and made the cardinal sin of getting involved in prossies personal bullshit and has shown us all how much of a mess you can getting to involved with some of these manipulative girls. But he has made some good contributions to the forum over the years so I think he should get one last chance.

[OscarC]

Fuck that was long winded sat on the toilet at work reading that has resulted in some serious pins and needles.

AnthG has made a real tit of himself here and made the cardinal sin of getting involved in prossies personal bullshit and has shown us all how much of a mess you can getting to involved with some of these manipulative girls. But he has made some good contributions to the forum over the years so I think he should get one last chance.

Yeah I agree, good summary of the situation.

[Cuntminion]

Ant some tips

Ant why you let some randomer bait you in pm with one post is beyond me, just tell them to fuck off

Don't get so involved

Instantly assume the sp finds you repulsive , I do I'm never offended if I get called such then


Finally did you ever get to see suicide squad I got a uv download code if you want it?

[Placebo88]

Assuming you're a pro$$ie why not give anth a free christmas ride to cheer him up, (That's if you're not a munter of course) 

Give him a free punt after reading this lot ? No chance , unless she wants him to propose to her .

You reckon Vicky was behind this cheche troll on UKE , playing him ? You said you thought it was female .

If his story is accurate then he broke no site rules , only changed the story to look good to a prossie . He should not be banned . He is a liability to himself , not UKP . Removing his PM facility on both sites is an idea .

[Third Man]

i think hanging is too good for him! seriously Id rather see him unbanned, and hopefully take onboard members views. He  has been a valued ukp member, but his objectivity has disappeared of late. bring back the original Anth.

[jarrovian]

Just got back on here, good god what a palaver. Un ban him but maybe limit him to 100 words a post, he makes it so hard to follow

[foreverchanges]

I think he should serve a minimum 3 month ban and during that period he should perhaps experience what it was like for the majority of us before online punting forums ie book lass, have punt, hopefully leave with smile on face,look forward to next punt, end of.

It might do him a world of good....then again

[Moresomes]

I'm for unbanning Anth. As far as I can see, he's only guilty of going all mushy over a prossy, and he's not the first or last to do that.

Got to admit that I skimmed through his War and peace post of last night to get at the bullet points.
I don't think I'll live long enough to read it word for word.

[squeezebox]

On balance, I'd like to see Anthg unbanned, including any PM privileges.

His own history of thread content over time, has been useful and informative, but also a living example of how EAS can affect a punters' thinking, with lessons learned...etc

If I were Anthg, I'd take some responsibility for the outcome, draw a line and begin with a new approach.

[Toon73]

Huge amount of info to absorb, but in the short time i been on here Anth G seems to contribute hugely to the site , a very experienced member , yes he may have faults (like we all do) may have a few arguments/ disagreements with other established members , he may have done/said a few stupid things ,

BUT he is part of this crazy bunch  almost punting "family" for what its worth
It's a yes from me 

[PlasticGeordie]

I think he should serve a minimum 3 month ban and during that period he should perhaps experience what it was like for the majority of us before online punting forums ie book lass, have punt, hopefully leave with smile on face,look forward to next punt, end of.

It might do him a world of good....then again

Spot on. Having seen Madison some while back, I know I would believe her in her comments on this situation.

[AnthG]

I wonder how he feels about Mia now, on top of the past issues between them she's now got him temp banning for a PM he sent her back in September (which I thought was recent).

I actually seen this post at work and waited to get home to specifically respond to this by Admin. And will do by justifying it first. Back in 2011, those at the forum then will remember, I actually was in the TeenKylie sympathiser camp. In that I didn't think she was malicious or sinister, just very stupid.

Then 2012, Shadylady made my life a total misery. She for example hacked my account on another punting forum, changed my password and started posted a load of crazy rubbish in my name. She did a whole load else to cause me a load of stress in this time. So it's not the case of if you do something to me I then think you are scum. As even with this I did not think she was sinister, just someone with an overactive sense of humour and someone who took a joke far too far. I thought she was ok in my eyes. As people will remember at the time then too.

So that is the benchmark of who I think is ok. If you asked anyone else, they would, and did, say I was mad as the above two were the scum of the earth in their eyes. But I thought they were ok. I am the softest touch going and infamously have been ridiculed for almost seeing good in everyone. So when I say this I hope the above puts this in context.

As Maddison on the otherhand. I honestly put her in the same category as Lou4fun and TightYoungEbony. She is twisted, sinister and completely malicious. Of the 6 years I have been punting and on the forums she is the only girl in the north east I feel that way towards.

Crazily I felt that way before I sent her that PM in September. I only helped her out at that time as she had made claims so bad that another working girl had done towards her and I felt sorry for her. And was asked to help her. But on further investigation and hearing the whole story I found that was all lies and total drama exaggerations too as that other girl didn't do anything close to what was claimed about her. Even to the extent that I actually felt more sorry towards the other girl for her being treat like dirt due to Maddison's lies and total off the scale exaggerations about her.

That is how I feel about this girl. I have also sent you the PM of what she has done to another punter. I believe all of it. I also have a load of people say hearsay stuff to me of stuff she has done when they have crossed her. But have no proof each time but they know it was her.

[walking dead]

Not sure a meeting some time ago can  give you an indication of how believable someone is !

[PlasticGeordie]

Not sure a meeting some time ago can  give you an indication of how believable someone is !

My impressions of her as an honest and genuine person.

[walking dead]

My impressions of her as an honest and genuine person.

That's all they are, impressions.  She might be,  I have no idea.
Not sure I would class any escorts I meet as honest , not that they don't come across as so, it's just difficult to gauge that from one or two meetings.  At least for me

[mysterious-madison-x]

Crazily I felt that way before I sent her that PM in September. I only helped her out at that time as she had made claims so bad that another working girl had done towards her and I felt sorry for her. And was asked to help her. But on further investigation and hearing the whole story I found that was all lies and total drama exaggerations too as that other girl didn't do anything close to what was claimed about her. Even to the extent that I actually felt more sorry towards the other girl for her being treat like dirt due to Maddison's lies and total off the scale exaggerations about her.

please note this to this quote all evidence was put forward by working girls and SS of her talking about my personal life as well as sending the photo of myself with my bump and the photo of my baby scan before the passing of my unborn child. this was taken from my personal social accounts when i had not been working. this has all been coved and had evidence from more then one souse on this matter. i asked for the feed to be removed as it was a very upsetting moment in mylife so we can not go back to it but i find a few people will rember the amout of evidnace that came forward.  the fact you are now going back to this to make out that i lied about true sold facts that was posted as well as her giving my real name to a working girl and that was also posted in evidence is boggling to me that you are trying to change fats that where put out thire if it wasnt true why did the girl in question not ocme to defend her self ?? . i have asked you to show me this evidnce of outting a client multible times now and i have had nothing i have also said i will be happy to take my self to the police station.

this is starting to get a little dragged on my and a bit personal. i didnt want you banned. you have explained your reason for why you said and what you meant in that inbox.
like i said we dont like one another but bringing up events that had been coved with raw facts in the past isnt going to help anyone i want this to be resolved also. i have not name called or been nasty i have kept carlm and pin pointed facts and asked for evidence yet still got none. i am also trying to sort this out your not the only one upset by all this.
x x xx

[Looking4fun]

Struggling to get my head around why Mia & anthg have been exchanging messsges to support each other when it's pretty obvious they don't like each other.

Mia you say you didn't want anthg banned,so what was the reason for sending admin a 2 month old pm?

[daviemac]

Struggling to get my head around why Mia & anthg have been exchanging messsges to support each other when it's pretty obvious they don't like each other.

Mia you say you didn't want anthg banned,so what was the reason for sending admin a 2 month old pm?

Have to agree L4F, why would Mia keep that pm for so long unless it was to use against him at some stage. What would be the point of sending it to Admin if not to get him banned.   

[Darlobloke]

My 2 penneth is as follows.

There is anths story and maddison / mias story. Somewhere in the middle is probably the truth.

I would say unban Anth as he is a regular contributor, however keep the ban in place for a month for his own sanity/ safety. I think this is a guy that spends a lot of time with WGs for whatever reason he chooses. He has clearly got too close in his head to some girls and things turned sour which is sad to hear.

At the end of the day a punt is a punt. Pay up, have some fun and go home.  If you enjoyed it go back but don't go beyond those boundaries. Discretion from both punter and WG is absolutely crucial in this hobby. By letting yourself get close to a WG you are asking for trouble, at the end of the day it is a business transaction and in the majority of cases the WGs motivation is money. I'm sorry to hear you were fleeced for some cash and hope it wasn't significant

Unban him in January, let the man have Xmas to recalibrate his thoughts and I do hope he learns from this unfortunate set of circumstances. Maybe stop seeing the same girl over and over to stop your propensity to get EAS. Only have comes with WGS regarding punting related matters. Simples.

Get over it. Enjoy Xmas and return in the new year.

Good luck chief.

[mysterious-madison-x]

Struggling to get my head around why Mia & anthg have been exchanging messsges to support each other when it's pretty obvious they don't like each other.

Mia you say you didn't want anthg banned,so what was the reason for sending admin a 2 month old pm?

i couldn't log in my old account so used amazing arias at the time when i came back waited a while for admin to sort it out and i got everything back. then i was looking on here as i like to see what girls do in booking as us all girls do. it gives you ideas like my goodie bags i had for london as there was a lot of clients down there post about how items where not at hand. then i noticed admin pined about clients changing the outcome out other clients reviews. and in that emal i got from anth that came back to me when admin gave me everything back it says he changed the outcome of a review. he never stated what was going on and wasnt worded that way. i clicked the report button last night because it might have been something helpful towards admin. id didnt think anth would get banned and his reasons about how vivky was treated are understanding but was not explain in that email to me.
i have said everything i can i have asked for evidence of me outing a client and had nothing. like i said i would hand my self over if i had mistreated anyone in the way being said as it sonds like harassment and i am willing to do so to prove i have not done anything.
me and anth dont get on but when i see him post things on uk e it gets me so upset as he clearly is heart broken and a few kind words to let him know that things are going to be ok in 3 emails in 4 months since te date he said i was hounding him isnt really hounding someone when you see the messages yourself and i will be happy to provid them for people to see. it brakes my heart seeing how much he takes this punting world and tryed to do nothing but comfort him.
i have a lot of clients i have been away with and been to the house if i was going to out someone wouldnt these clients the ones who have known me for years and i know so much about whouldnt they click on to how i am being show in this post.
i am no longer going to be on uke and ukp and keep to adult work only. you try to be nice and it back fires. i wish you all the best anth in your punting life and please take care. call me all the names under the sun but i know when i have not done somthing i have stood my groud well with facts and had nothing in return.
good byee uk p <3

[Bangers and Gash]

good byee uk p <3

You forgot to add the word.. 'forever'

 

[Looking4fun]

Mia you should consider a profession in politics as you've done your best to avoid the question & then re-post your version of accounts.
As we all know you can't trust politicians & after that reply,Youve helped make my mind up.

[Darlobloke]

You forgot to add the word.. 'forever'

 

Love what you did with the quote!

[daftlad123]

I dont post very often but heres my take.

Friends with escorts just doesnt work..to us lads it becomes all about being friends and getting to know them..maybe help them out thinking you will mean something to them or get a bit more for nothing...to them its just about what they can get out of you.they may like you personally but will still take the money and extras anytime they can and thats it..its purely business.we spend money with them for pleasure,they take money from us to live.i nearly got stung last year and its an easy trap to fall into..easier than you think especially if they spot a vunerable weakness if your heads down or you have other problems or issues.

Like the lads have said...meet them,let them do what theyre paid to do then go.keep it like that you dont get drawn in.i tend to only see a girl either once or once every few months for that reason.

Anth you seem very deep and maybe think too much before disecting what you think and getting yourself a bit muddled in the process..is this lifestyle really for you?my advice would be to take a break for a month or so from the forums and actual punting..maybe even let the ban stay in place till end of jan to give you enforced time out and after a few weeks you may be able to make clearer decisions.