OVer 95% of my last ten punts have been crap

[sir wanksalot]

I've been punting for years but I find it so difficult to find anyone that delivers on either looks or service.

I think the current offering makes it easier to quit punting more than ever.

[NuruGuru]

I'm relatively new to punting and I've not been ecstatic with what's been on offer. Not quite lived up to the hype I had in my mind about it...

Hope it gets better for u though!

[Hertsgent]

I knew my maths A level would come in handy one day - surely it is either 90% or 100% 

I always give 110% to every punt myself 

[chrishornx]

I knew my maths A level would come in handy one day - surely it is either 90% or 100% 

I always give 110% to every punt myself 

you are correct it is either 100% or 90% (or less)

[sir wanksalot]

you are correct it is either 100% or 90% (or less)

Quoting "95" for dramatic effect

[Marquis]

Quoting "95" for dramatic effect

Unless it's like the football betting odds, where they say things like "Todgecaster United are 5 to 1 to score two and a half goals or more in this weekend's big local derby against Todgecaster City."

[Deepstroker]

I think thats why i havent got my dick wet in a prossie for quite some time. I just ot fed up of the same old routine and paying through the nose for it. Well all is said and done, a shag is a shag,,you can find some great enthusiastic cheaper punts but the market seems full of prima donnas who think they are all worth upward of £100 an hour and we have been moulded to believe that £100 an hour is now "cheap". How can that be so? The national minimum wage is now 7.50 an hour so based on that, a tart charging £100 ph is receiving a 1200% uplift.

I would venture to suggest that if someone is earning £15 ph, they are on an average or a little above average wage.

Thats an uplift of 566% if a tart is charging 100ph.

I guess a lot of girls have been tempted to sell their arse because they have networks that feed them info or they hear that a girl can make £150 ph..its tempting so they get into it but they know they really dont want to do it. They hate and despise the punters and only suffer them for the money. Can you really expect great service in such circumstances?

Back in my punting heyday i was an infrequent punter then but most of the ladies i saw gave really good services at fair rates and not a whiff of attitude or disdain.

Sadly many have moved on and have been replaced by a selection of haughty prima donnas or worse, fakes, crack heads and bait/switch merchants.

[opal]

Quite a lot of negative reports on here. Are we getting fussier, are the girls giving a worse service or do we just like to complain?

[sir wanksalot]

Quite a lot of negative reports on here. Are we getting fussier, are the girls giving a worse service or do we just like to complain?

The girls are giving a worse service. Or to be more precise, there is a lack of quality girls on the scene

[akka76]

I mostly don't bother. After every punt i have in Europe I am leaving feeling pissed off. There are always a few gripes that are not up to spec. I don't even find that British girls are any better or worse that the EE tarts. Brits raised on this Girl Power bullshit think you should be grateful for fucking them... well maybe if I were not paying for it... So I tend to agree with the OP. I has to be something very special to get my interest. I guess I would suit the Kitty and Co type of brothel in Brum now. Used to have the member card there and for 25 notes could get a suck and fuck. Well for that money its meaningless if they are shit, and on more than one occasion I have zipped up, gone down stairs again, and got a different girl instead. Wish there was a similar place in Bath or Bristol

[Treehouse]

I wonder if its not partly due to the rise of reviews changing our expectations. Pre Internet days we didnt know that everyone else is getting great service.

Oddly i tend to find independents rarley give a great service.

Perhaps parlour owners have a quiet words with grumpy looking girls to remind them of the realities of the job?

[Laid_back_bloke]

I'm in Blackpool. Town can be so hit/miss. Even nearby Preston isn't much better.
I really get what the OP is getting at though. On far too many occasions I've tootled home thinking, that was just a shag.
Is it down to price. I have on occasion raised the amount I was really prepared to pay for a punt. Even with that. Some are a bit better, most are not..

Saying that, there is a local Thai girl that out performs for £50/£90 (30/60 min). So it is possible to get it right.
I'm not the type of guy who likes the same girl time & time again, so getting a regular good standard at a reasonable price is a nightmare. Why good reviews on here are a real help, well for me anyway.

[sir wanksalot]

I don't think it's down to the rise of reviews that make me compare my visits with others.

I've been punting for nearly 20 years but it's only in the last few years I feel the quality and variety of ladies working in the scene has nose-dived.

Like someone already mentioned I was even considering upping my minimum to £ 80 for 30 mins with Rebecca (ex-Liberty @ WFB) at the top of my hit list but people say she's very unreliable and will cancel at the drop of a hat if a better offer comes along.

My recent trend is to go for older ladies believing (stupidly) that they may not be as mercenary as some of the younger girls but that hasn't really worked out either and has also prompted me to realise that I'd rather risk having a crap punt from a girl I really fancy than a crap punt from an older lady who may be ok but isn't that stunning

[Rack Admirer]

I don't think it's down to the rise of reviews that make me compare my visits with others.

I've been punting for nearly 20 years but it's only in the last few years I feel the quality and variety of ladies working in the scene has nose-dived.

Like someone already mentioned I was even considering upping my minimum to £ 80 for 30 mins with Rebecca (ex-Liberty @ WFB) at the top of my hit list but people say she's very unreliable and will cancel at the drop of a hat if a better offer comes along.

My recent trend is to go for older ladies believing (stupidly) that they may not be as mercenary as some of the younger girls but that hasn't really worked out either and has also prompted me to realise that I'd rather risk having a crap punt from a girl I really fancy than a crap punt from an older lady who may be ok but isn't that stunning

'tis a grim time to be a punter. So strange how it's all gone downhill

[opal]

I don't think it's down to the rise of reviews that make me compare my visits with others.

I've been punting for nearly 20 years but it's only in the last few years I feel the quality and variety of ladies working in the scene has nose-dived.

Like someone already mentioned I was even considering upping my minimum to £ 80 for 30 mins with Rebecca (ex-Liberty @ WFB) at the top of my hit list but people say she's very unreliable and will cancel at the drop of a hat if a better offer comes along.

My recent trend is to go for older ladies believing (stupidly) that they may not be as mercenary as some of the younger girls but that hasn't really worked out either and has also prompted me to realise that I'd rather risk having a crap punt from a girl I really fancy than a crap punt from an older lady who may be ok but isn't that stunning

Ive been punting well over 20 years and I think its actually myself that has changed more than the quality of the girls. I've always been fussy but am far more so now. Ive had some poor punts in the past but in hindsight it was as much my fault in my choice of girl and I would rarely have a poor punt now because Ive learnt from past experiences and I also would now look for a regular girl wheras many years ago it was more about variety for me.

Looking at my AW hotlist there are quite a number of girls who have been well reported and highly recommended on here in addition to those ive seen before and would see again so I dont see a lack of girls, Its just im  not as willing to travel to Manchester these days.

[Robert44]

Blimey this is a cheery thread, if I felt like this I would knock it on the head to.

Maybe you should take up a different hobby?

[Blackie]

Agree with OP
my own opinion is the pre Internet it was a certain type of person who would punt and prior to adult work it was perhaps something like an exclusive society. Since aw and the commercialisation of whoreing the ladies don't get fussy blokes, therefore the standards don't need to be as high. Also before it was word of mouth and now it's all over t'internet, free advertising mean easy pickings for novice punters and whores who are out to make a quick buck.

Besides OP, when you were 20yrs younger you were 20 times more attractive to the ladies you saw. That's 20 more reasons for them to make sure you come back. 

[opal]

Besides OP, when you were 20yrs younger you were 20 times more attractive to the ladies you saw. That's 20 more reasons for them to make sure you come back. 

You make a good point. I dont find majority of women my age attractive and neither does it seem Sir W does either, yet we expect to recieve a fantastic service of young women who may find us unattractive or far less attractive than we used to be.

I actually think we are lucky to be able to have sex with women less than half our age and still think theres a good choice out there if you do your research and are prepared to travel to see an exceptional girl. Ive just done a AW search and there were over 2500 girls advertising in the North West and I know im fussy but surely we can all find something decent out there.

[Rack Admirer]

Agree with OP
my own opinion is the pre Internet it was a certain type of person who would punt and prior to adult work it was perhaps something like an exclusive society. Since aw and the commercialisation of whoreing the ladies don't get fussy blokes, therefore the standards don't need to be as high. Also before it was word of mouth and now it's all over t'internet, free advertising mean easy pickings for novice punters and whores who are out to make a quick buck.

Some good points here. I think you may have hit the nail on the head.

There is definitely a different vibe now. Girls not going the extra mile and wanting to develop a following (apart from a few exceptions).

There was a post somewhere on this board saying punters should be much more choosy and refuse to pay high prices, etc. The poster was shouted down but maybe he had a point?

[VOLPONE]

my own opinion is the pre Internet it was a certain type of person who would punt and prior to adult work it was perhaps something like an exclusive society. Since aw and the commercialisation of whoreing the ladies don't get fussy blokes, therefore the standards don't need to be as high. Also before it was word of mouth and now it's all over t'internet, free advertising mean easy pickings for novice punters and whores who are out to make a quick buck.

Besides OP, when you were 20yrs younger you were 20 times more attractive to the ladies you saw. That's 20 more reasons for them to make sure you come back. 

Interesting. I'd say the opposite really.I don't think the type of person who punts is any different now to what it was e.g. I think you'll find there were bored husbands not getting enough of what they want at home or just wanting variety in the pre internet /AW age too !

It was nothing like an 'exclusive society'. Twenty five years ago in the Manchester Evening News every day there was a full page of adverts for brothels pretty much throughout Greater Manchester ( but never Stockport).There were about 60 brothels and most of them advertised in the paper every day.
I'd say punters are more fussy these days as they have the opportunity to read reviews and know what's available elsewhere in terms of services and standards. In the old days you were much more likely to come across mediocrity - especially in the case of those punters who were reluctant to 'walk' when the goods offered over the phone turned out to bear little resemblance to  the reality which walked into the room.

As for being more attractive to the ladies 20 years ago .......well let's just say provided you are clean and polite the only thing they are interested in is the contents of your wallet. T'was ever thus. Of course the good ones may be decent actresses and convince you otherwise ( nowt like a bit of flattery) but remember it's all about the £££££'s for a service provider.

[opal]

Interesting. I'd say the opposite really.I don't think the type of person who punts is any different now to what it was e.g. I think you'll find there were bored husbands not getting enough of what they want at home or just wanting variety in the pre internet /AW age too !

It was nothing like an 'exclusive society'. Twenty five years ago in the Manchester Evening News every day there was a full page of adverts for brothels pretty much throughout Greater Manchester ( but never Stockport).There were about 60 brothels and most of them advertised in the paper every day.
I'd say punters are more fussy these days as they have the opportunity to read reviews and know what's available elsewhere in terms of services and standards. In the old days you were much more likely to come across mediocrity - especially in the case of those punters who were reluctant to 'walk' when the goods offered over the phone turned out to bear little resemblance to  the reality which walked into the room.

100% with you there Volpone. Pre internet in the early 90's we relied on telephone descriptions which were wildly inaccurate to say the least. It was as you say the MEN or contact magazines we relied upon.
Punters today never had it so good. Prices have also come down in real terms and with parlour websites, adultwork and forums like this....... without them we would have a ten fold increase in negative reviews.

[sir wanksalot]

You make a good point. I dont find majority of women my age attractive and neither does it seem Sir W does either, yet we expect to recieve a fantastic service of young women who may find us unattractive or far less attractive than we used to be.

I actually think we are lucky to be able to have sex with women less than half our age and still think theres a good choice out there if you do your research and are prepared to travel to see an exceptional girl. Ive just done a AW search and there were over 2500 girls advertising in the North West and I know im fussy but surely we can all find something decent out there.

It's more a question of quality rather than quantity (and personal preferences of course).

Let's take your example of 2500 girls on AW in the North West to choose from. My selection criteria on AW is "Female/Escort/Can Accommodate/North West/Exclude Romanians/Exclude Bareback/Logged in within the last week.

The criteria brings up 554 profiles.

I normally don't search by within the whole of the North West as Cumbria and Liverpool are too far for me so I normally search within Greater Manchester. I also choose not to visit the really expensive girls so limit my 30 mins to £ 80. This brings me about 181 profiles of which only half have any decent feedback, the rest are new to the scene and could be considered risky until more feedback has been established.

I get what you're saying but I remember being able to choose from 5-10 top quality girls who worked from parlours in the Manchester area PLUS being able to choose from some independents who advertised in the MEN.

I'm not saying there aren't any decent ladies left but they are few and far between

[opal]

It's more a question of quality rather than quantity (and personal preferences of course).

Let's take your example of 2500 girls on AW in the North West to choose from. My selection criteria on AW is "Female/Escort/Can Accommodate/North West/Exclude Romanians/Exclude Bareback/Logged in within the last week.

The criteria brings up 554 profiles.

I normally don't search by within the whole of the North West as Cumbria and Liverpool are too far for me so I normally search within Greater Manchester. I also choose not to visit the really expensive girls so limit my 30 mins to £ 80. This brings me about 181 profiles of which only half have any decent feedback, the rest are new to the scene and could be considered risky until more feedback has been established.

I get what you're saying but I remember being able to choose from 5-10 top quality girls who worked from parlours in the Manchester area PLUS being able to choose from some independents who advertised in the MEN.

I'm not saying there aren't any decent ladies left but they are few and far between

I do agree that we all whittle down the 2500 girls by our personal preferences. My own AW hotlist is only about 20 or 30 girls and like yourself Im not willing to travel far.
I also didnt include the parlour scene in the 2500 girls which would be thousands more girls. I agree that there used to be more top rated parlour girls at the likes of WFB and SS but this was perhaps before Adultwork started around 2005 when the scene was dominated by parlours.

Maybe youre right that there are fewer top girls around. Girls do come and go and I do have to search harder to find something that interests me, but in my case thats partly because I dont like parlours anymore and only search for independants. Its also because I think seasoned punters become fussier and with age and personally I dont have the urge I used to.

[akka76]

Prossies don't have to be good these days though. With the internet, free more or less, they can get a pipeline of customers all day long all the time, they are not so reliant on regulars (more fool them). For the most they really don't care if you come back or not, which in my recollection is different to even simple 10-15 years ago. Hookers actually wanted you to some back because they needed you to. Now, well for each slot there is 10 bookings with the hottest no doubt