Noob here, wondering about "flat sharers"

[Kwrt]

Alright lads, I've got a weird one for you. Long story short; I have pretty bad social anxiety(diagnosed) so something like seeing a WG is pretty out there for me, to give some contrast going to a pub is something I find near impossible to do. I'm confident that I can meet with a WG and as nervous as I may be, it would be manageable(i'd explain it's my first time and all that). The problem comes in when they share a place with other girls and other punters are about. I spent a long time searching for WG's I'm interested in and messaged quite a few, and all confirmed that they were sharing a flat with others.

So I have two questions:
1) When they say "share a flat" is it sometimes a case of one flat having one room, but it's occupied by different girls on different days/hours? Or is it almost always multiple bedrooms? If it's the latter, how often is it that punters bump into each other?
2)Any tips on finding a WG who is 100% independent AND doesn't flat share? I'd just prefer it to be as private as possible.

I know it seems like I'm worrying about specifics too much, i'm quite young and inexperienced so forgive the ignorance 

[ClarkeOfTheCourse]

Sometimes girls will share a building. If there is a shared bathroom then girls will be wise enough to tell you to wait until the bathroom is free before going in.

Technically this is classed as a brothel if more than one girl works at once, but as a customer you are not at risk legally, only the person renting out the premises.

[sloopjohnb]

2)Any tips on finding a WG who is 100% independent AND doesn't flat share? I'd just prefer it to be as private as possible.

Read the reviews here of WGs ghat you're interested in. Often there will be comments about their premises that will help you.

FWIW, in my not-very-vast experience of punting, I haven't yet seen a girl who worked from shared premises, nor would I visit one if I thought she did.

[fredpunter]

I've visited shared premises many times and only once encountered another punter (we both arrived at exactly the same time - girl had double booked - I was offered a scabby substitute so walked) as the girls do their best to ensure you don't. There was a group who worked in southfields and later wimbledon who used to insist you took your shoes off and left them by the front door so I have seen other punters shoes on occasion if that's an issue.

[Kwrt]

Read the reviews here of WGs ghat you're interested in. Often there will be comments about their premises that will help you.

I've been doing that and still there's mentions of flat mates or hints to "If you've been in the area before, you know the place" or something like that, as if there's other girls in that same house.

Perhaps it's my budget? I'm looking in the 80 -130 p/h range.

[sloopjohnb]

I've been doing that and still there's mentions of flat mates or hints to "If you've been in the area before, you know the place" or something like that, as if there's other girls in that same house.

Perhaps it's my budget? I'm looking in the 80 -130 p/h range.

There you go then: avoid those.

It's not your budget, at least not at the £130/h end

[Kwrt]

There you go then: avoid those.

It's not your budget, at least not at the £130/h end

Well I'd be happy to increase my budget if it means I get the luxury of an actual private meet. What's a reasonable hourly price range I should be looking at for that?

[BarryProudfoot]

Alright lads, I've got a weird one for you. Long story short; I have pretty bad social anxiety(diagnosed) so something like seeing a WG is pretty out there for me, to give some contrast going to a pub is something I find near impossible to do. I'm confident that I can meet with a WG and as nervous as I may be, it would be manageable(i'd explain it's my first time and all that). The problem comes in when they share a place with other girls and other punters are about. I spent a long time searching for WG's I'm interested in and messaged quite a few, and all confirmed that they were sharing a flat with others.

So I have two questions:
1) When they say "share a flat" is it sometimes a case of one flat having one room, but it's occupied by different girls on different days/hours? Or is it almost always multiple bedrooms? If it's the latter, how often is it that punters bump into each other?
2)Any tips on finding a WG who is 100% independent AND doesn't flat share? I'd just prefer it to be as private as possible.

I know it seems like I'm worrying about specifics too much, i'm quite young and inexperienced so forgive the ignorance 

I'm in a similar situation and totally get where you're coming from. I can't get my head around going to a random address and meeting with a fit babestation looking girl who's going to make me feel like Gaz from Geordie shore It's frustrating to be held back by this, when so many others on here do it like it's a walk in the park

[sloopjohnb]

Well I'd be happy to increase my budget if it means I get the luxury of an actual private meet. What's a reasonable hourly price range I should be looking at for that?

I meant there's nothing wrong with your budget, at least in the £100-£130 range.

I'm not in London much, so can't recommend anyone current, but in the past have seen Naughty Natt External Link/Members Only, who works out of a small apartment. She's taking time off to study atm though

[LanceVance]

I have never had to think about this myself, but I have seen WGs who have their own place including an ensuite bathroom and others who share, it is a mixed bag really.

What I will say is that I have never seen another punter in a shared flat. The closest I've come to that happening is hearing their footsteps on the other side of the door when they meet their WG or being made to wait a little before I can leave the room as they are still on the move. WGs will always try to make sure that punters never see each other.

[Kwrt]

I meant there's nothing wrong with your budget, at least in the £100-£130 range.

Oh right, well at least I'm on the right track there.

I'm not in London much, so can't recommend anyone current, but in the past have seen Naughty Natt External Link/Members Only, who works out of a small apartment. She's taking time off to study atm though

I've added her to my hotlist for future reference, thanks. There's a lot of WG's in London so I'm just going to assume I had some bad luck with the ones I messaged. I'll widen my search a bit and not be so fussy, then at least I'll get the ball rolling.

What I will say is that I have never seen another punter in a shared flat.

This is interesting, I thought it would at least be a little common. Like 3/10 chance, which would be too high for me lol.

[Mr Farkyhars]

Technically this is classed as a brothel if more than one girl works at once, but as a customer you are not at risk legally, only the person renting out the premises

FWIW I think more than one girl working at any time classifies premises as a brothel

[Kwrt]

FWIW I think more than one girl working at any time classifies premises as a brothel

So how do regular punters distinguish whether or not they're about to travel to a brother, or a girls genuinely private apartment? Do most not care?

[Huggy bear]

Dude for you it seems is best to an outcall to your place
Plenty agency will do for about 100 notes

[Mr Farkyhars]

So how do regular punters distinguish whether or not they're about to travel to a brother, or a girls genuinely private apartment? Do most not care?

I think, because (outside of trafficking/controlling-for-gain issues) punters have nothing to fear, that most do not care.

[fredpunter]

I expect a lot of girls feel safer if they're not completely alone with a stranger ... and I'm beginning to think I'd feel safer if I wasn't alone with the op

[Steely Dan]

Just pick a top girl.  The board darlings such as Ellie Rose, Michelle Independent and Horny Sexy Girl and all the rest (see the 'List of' links below) are well rated for a reason.

[LanceVance]

I think, because (outside of trafficking/controlling-for-gain issues) punters have nothing to fear, that most do not care.

+1

[pewpewpew]

I'm in a similar situation and totally get where you're coming from. I can't get my head around going to a random address and meeting with a fit babestation looking girl who's going to make me feel like Gaz from Geordie shore It's frustrating to be held back by this, when so many others on here do it like it's a walk in the park

I was the same the first time and I'm sure many others on here were as well. Just have to man up and get the first one out of the way and you'll see it's a lot easier than you'd think

[pewpewpew]

Also about the whole brothel thing. Isn't it illegal to use a brothel?

[P. Lonker]

It is not illegal to use a brothel, it is illegal to run a brothel. However, it is illegal to use a brothel or to pay for sex if the Girl is under 18 or is being trafficked, how the punter would ever know about the latter is beyond be! The law is very much a grey area, and need sorting.

[mrhappypants]

Kwrt, we have an epidemic of zero review fantacists posing unlikely sob stories to get attention on the London board.  In the unlikely event your query is legitimate I suggest you post links to girls you have considered, if only to prove you are not just sitting at your keyboard having a wank.

I should also say that I am particularly concerned about the nature of your query - most girls work with others is because of the dangers they face in the job.

[Kwrt]

Kwrt, we have an epidemic of zero review fantacists posing unlikely sob stories to get attention on the London board.  In the unlikely event your query is legitimate I suggest you post links to girls you have considered, if only to prove you are not just sitting at your keyboard having a wank.

Fair enough. The funny thing is I knew about the complaints of sob stories and intentionally made sure to make my question as non-sobby as possible lol - I left some stuff out or else I knew for sure that i'd be dismissed as a time waster. Here are some examples:

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That last one is especially disappointing for me, if she was private then she would 100% be the first WG I see.
It's not an exhaustive list, but what you're not seeing is the other 10 or so that I got excited about only to read about on here and find comments saying something to the effect of "If you've been in the area, you know where the place is" or seeing other flat mates they may be interested in on future visits etc etc.

I should also say that I am particularly concerned about the nature of your query - most girls work with others is because of the dangers they face in the job.

I expect a lot of girls feel safer if they're not completely alone with a stranger ... and I'm beginning to think I'd feel safer if I wasn't alone with the op

This is something I considered too, and one of the reasons I've posted on here asking for advice. If I was a WG and I was being questioned on if I work alone or live privately, then I'll be instantly suspicious because of the risks involved in the job. ESPECIALLY if the client is painting himself as timid, shy, inexperienced young guy. The more paranoid ones would think I'm trying to lure them into a false sense of security.

So look, I've wasted enough peoples time with this.
In summary, you can see I'm in a catch-22. I'm truly in my early 20's with social anxiety as a big issues for me. With all this said, I am confident that if I found a WG I liked the look of, was in my price range, and was simply independent and had their own place where I didn't have to worry about other punters and girls, then I'll be golden.

I'm going to push my luck here and even go as far as to admit, just for those who may find it interesting, that this is one of the ways I'm trying to fix my anxiety. It's through repeated exposure outside of your comfort zone that we are able to lessen anxiety.

[BarryProudfoot]

Fair enough. The funny thing is I knew about the complaints of sob stories and intentionally made sure to make my question as non-sobby as possible lol - I left some stuff out or else I knew for sure that i'd be dismissed as a time waster. Here are some examples:

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That last one is especially disappointing for me, if she was private then she would 100% be the first WG I see.
It's not an exhaustive list, but what you're not seeing is the other 10 or so that I got excited about only to read about on here and find comments saying something to the effect of "If you've been in the area, you know where the place is" or seeing other flat mates they may be interested in on future visits etc etc.

This is something I considered too, and one of the reasons I've posted on here asking for advice. If I was a WG and I was being questioned on if I work alone or live privately, then I'll be instantly suspicious because of the risks involved in the job. ESPECIALLY if the client is painting himself as timid, shy, inexperienced young guy. The more paranoid ones would think I'm trying to lure them into a false sense of security.

So look, I've wasted enough peoples time with this.
In summary, you can see I'm in a catch-22. I'm truly in my early 20's with social anxiety as a big issues for me. With all this said, I am confident that if I found a WG I liked the look of, was in my price range, and was simply independent and had their own place where I didn't have to worry about other punters and girls, then I'll be golden.

I'm going to push my luck here and even go as far as to admit, just for those who may find it interesting, that this is one of the ways I'm trying to fix my anxiety. It's through repeated exposure outside of your comfort zone that we are able to lessen anxiety.

If you want to improve how to deal/cope with your social anxiety (everyone has it to some degree) I suggest you first take up a hobby where you will be around other like minded people. Start talking to people (strangers) Stop watching porn and bashing the bishop and you'll see an improvement in your confidence and self esteem within six months.     

[water bottle]

This is what I want you to do bro!

Lift up ya skirt, grab a hold of ya balls and then run out to the street and shout out "ima gonna go bang a brass and eat her pootang"

Dude, we're all gonna be dead in a hundred years or so, fuck worrying about whether Sergei is listening to ya tapping the poon just get stuck in and enjoy it! FFS!!!!

Good luck son, don't forgot to munch on the bunghole too.

[fredpunter]

Or in English... get yourself to phoenix parties

[fisherofsouls]

I've visited shared premises many times and only once encountered another punter (we both arrived at exactly the same time - girl had double booked - I was offered a scabby substitute so walked) as the girls do their best to ensure you don't. There was a group who worked in southfields and later wimbledon who used to insist you took your shoes off and left them by the front door so I have seen other punters shoes on occasion if that's an issue.
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Ha ha yes, that takes me right back ]

[Kwrt]

This is what I want you to do bro!

Lift up ya skirt, grab a hold of ya balls and then run out to the street and shout out "ima gonna go bang a brass and eat her pootang"

Dude, we're all gonna be dead in a hundred years or so, fuck worrying about whether Sergei is listening to ya tapping the poon just get stuck in and enjoy it! FFS!!!!

Good luck son, don't forgot to munch on the bunghole too.

Haha, I like your philosophy. It really is crazy that a person can worry about something so minuscule when they consider where they are in the grande scheme of things and as you say, soon to be dead. It's a strange disposition.

[TheCape]

If you want to improve how to deal/cope with your social anxiety (everyone has it to some degree) I suggest you first take up a hobby where you will be around other like minded people. Start talking to people (strangers) Stop watching porn and bashing the bishop and you'll see an improvement in your confidence and self esteem within six months. 

While I agree that most people have anxieties to some degree, I would encourage you to see WG's to help you wish this!!  I was shy/timid and almost scared of my own shadow in my 20's. I seen that many WG's, I'm a lot lot more confident in many areas of my life as a result. I've had some great sessions with highly regarded 'legends' of the punting world and I'm sure I'm as confident or more so than 90% of posters on here with any girl you'd put me in front of.

[BarryProudfoot]

While I agree that most people have anxieties to some degree, I would encourage you to see WG's to help you wish this!!  I was shy/timid and almost scared of my own shadow in my 20's. I seen that many WG's, I'm a lot lot more confident in many areas of my life as a result. I've had some great sessions with highly regarded 'legends' of the punting world and I'm sure I'm as confident or more so than 90% of posters on here with any girl you'd put me in front of.

The op states he has been diagnosed with social anxiety (depression?) Going to see a WG would probably help, but at the same time it's not a solution to the problem long term. By your own admission you've seen many WG's, thats allot of money. My suggestion to the op to help reduce/manage his social anxiety was to take up a (cheaper) hobby where he is forced to be around people. Go into a coffee shop (for example) and chat up the skirt behind the counter. Go into the newsagent and chat to the geezer behind the counter. Quit watching porn and knocking one out. These are "free" options that force the op to work on himself and will help reduce/manage his social anxiety. Then, and only then would I suggest him going to see a WG.

Here is a video that explains when you don't have to work for something it kills your motivation
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Jump over here to see the effects of knocking porn on the head has had
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=82996.0

And I must say your first review of External Link/Members Only is right up my street when it comes to the babestation look I like

 

   

[Kwrt]

Here is a video that explains when you don't have to work for something it kills your motivation
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Good video, thanks for sharing that. Had a couple of revelations from watching it!

These are "free" options that force the op to work on himself and will help reduce/manage his social anxiety. Then, and only then would I suggest him going to see a WG.

What you've laid out is sensible and probably one of the healthier pathways to going about this. However, there's parts to my predicament i've intentionally left out to simplify things and I have good reason to be doing it the way I've set out to do it.  I'm not going into this as some kind of long term investment into meeting WG's, nor am I suggesting it's an instant fix to social anxiety(no depression btw). It's just the one of many things I'm doing to either desensitise myself to certain situations or to gain momentum in some form to help with further desensitisation through exposure.

Anyway if anyone is reading this thread with a similar issue to me, I got a PM and another post which stated in all their years and countless meets with WG's they've never bumped into a single other punter. It must be an unwritten rule for the women to make sure it's avoided, as they must know that it's awkward. Thanks to those two I'd say a lot of my anxiety surrounding that issue is gone, but of course I'd still prefer what I initially was looking for.

[mrhappypants]

I am calling FANTASCIST.

[BarryProudfoot]

Good video, thanks for sharing that. Had a couple of revelations from watching it!

What you've laid out is sensible and probably one of the healthier pathways to going about this. However, there's parts to my predicament i've intentionally left out to simplify things and I have good reason to be doing it the way I've set out to do it.  I'm not going into this as some kind of long term investment into meeting WG's, nor am I suggesting it's an instant fix to social anxiety(no depression btw). It's just the one of many things I'm doing to either desensitise myself to certain situations or to gain momentum in some form to help with further desensitisation through exposure.

Anyway if anyone is reading this thread with a similar issue to me, I got a PM and another post which stated in all their years and countless meets with WG's they've never bumped into a single other punter. It must be an unwritten rule for the women to make sure it's avoided, as they must know that it's awkward. Thanks to those two I'd say a lot of my anxiety surrounding that issue is gone, but of course I'd still prefer what I initially was looking for.

It seems the only thing left for you to do tomorrow is pick a girl, make the appointment and go. I for one will be very interested in how it all went