Lisainwonderland

[Jimmyredcab]

Putting the punter 1st???????????????????

Great call Jim . NOT

I put myself first.     

[Steve2]

But now she has priced herself out of your market at £120/hr

Smart move

You will probably get an honorary membership to SAAFE for services to girls with dusty phones

[Jimmyredcab]

But now she has priced herself out of your market at £120/hr

Smart move

Don't you mean your market. ????

I have paid £100 for 30 minutes quite a few times at The London Retreat.

[Steve2]

As usual Jim you are talking bollocks. You keep saying that £100/hr is the market price.

Now you say you pay £100/ half hr at the London Retreat. Is that because they provide specialist domination services for wayward cabbies?

I think it is time to get into the real world Jim

[Jimmyredcab]

I think it is time to get into the real world Jim

No mate, you are the one who needs to get real.

£50 for 30 minutes with a pretty young English girl is a ridiculous rate, it is all about supply and demand, she would just attract the cheap charlies who want to drag out 30 minutes into 45 minutes.

[James999]

I get the feeling Jimmy will shortly have moderator status on SAFE or Pro$$ienet at this rate, advising pro$$ies to put up their rates and worried about bookings running over time 

[CatBBW]

I read it that Jimmy advised her to put up the half hour rate and offer a more relaxed service, it's not his fault she's also put up her hourly rate too...?

Praps she's working from more expensive hotels now, or lives a little further away and needs to cover her travel costs

[Jimmyredcab]

I read it that Jimmy advised her to put up the half hour rate and offer a more relaxed service, it's not his fault she's also put up her hourly rate too...?

Exactly, 100% spot on. 

I was concerned when she indicated that the 30 minute service was more of a "quickie".

Far better to charge a more realistic rate for 30 minutes.

[Daffodil]

Exactly, 100% spot on. 

I was concerned when she indicated that the 30 minute service was more of a "quickie".

Far better to charge a more realistic rate for 30 minutes.

It is bonkers to advise a prossie to put up her rates.

Jimmy, the basis of your argument is that she implied her 30 minute service was rushed, but you had no experience of it. It may have been perfectly good.

[Jimmyredcab]

It is bonkers to advise a prossie to put up her rates.

Not when the price increase does not apply to me.   

[Daffodil]

Not when the price increase does not apply to me.   

But, as has been said, it's hardly 'putting the punter first'.

[Jimmyredcab]

But, as has been said, it's hardly 'putting the punter first'.

I am now just an ordinary member on here and as I replied earlier, I put myself first.

She is a nice girl who is new to the business and a bit green, I simply gave her the benefit of my 30+ years experience.

Even at her new prices she is still great value. 

[Daffodil]

I learnt my lesson last year.

Now if I offer to do a good report on a girl I ask her to guarantee any price rise does not apply to me.

Of course this agreement would not be legally enforceable.   

So here's the bottom line, Jimmy is writing reviews in return for favours ('putting himself first').

A clear conflict of interests and something that Nik was heavily criticised for when he considered having prossie advertising on the forum.

Sorry Jim, but I would have to take any of your reviews with a pinch of salt in the future. I just don't know what your motivation is for writing them 

[bestbefore]

So here's the bottom line, Jimmy is writing reviews in return for favours ('putting himself first').

A clear conflict of interests and something that Nik was heavily criticised for when he considered having prossie advertising on the forum.

Sorry Jim, but I would have to take any of your reviews with a pinch of salt in the future. I just don't know what your motivation is for writing them 

Agreed. Jimmy is totally discredited on this forum. Advising escorts to put their price up, giving them a good review, but then keeping the old deal with the same girl in return. Putting himself first as he puts it.

Makes you doubt all his reviews eh??

Not to mention his aggressive and patronising comments on the contributions of new members to this forum.

[Daffodil]

Agreed. Jimmy is totally discredited on this forum. Advising escorts to put their price up, giving them a good review, but then keeping the old deal with the same girl in return. Putting himself first as he puts it.

Makes you doubt all his reviews eh??

Not to mention his aggressive and patronising comments on the contributions of new members to this forum.

Well I wouldn't go that far.

But if you openly admit to receiving favours for posting positive reviews, those reviews must lose some of their worth. Even when you're as experienced and respected as JRC.

[Jimmyredcab]

Well I wouldn't go that far.

But if you openly admit to receiving favours for posting positive reviews, those reviews must lose some of their worth. Even when you're as experienced and respected as JRC.

Totally wrong, but then you quite often are.

My reviews are 100% accurate ------------- I do very few anyway.

Last summer I saw a girl in Chiswick called "Delicious Delight", I gave her an excellent review and within a few weeks her rates had gone from £100 an hour to £150 an hour ----------------- so I had shot myself in the foot, I now take precautions to stop that happening again.
If anyone thinks my reports need to be taken with a pinch of salt then that is their choice, I can't say I am bothered one way or the other.   

[Jimmyredcab]

Agreed. Jimmy is totally discredited on this forum. Advising escorts to put their price up, giving them a good review, but then keeping the old deal with the same girl in return. Putting himself first as he puts it.

Makes you doubt all his reviews eh??

Not to mention his aggressive and patronising comments on the contributions of new members to this forum.

Mr 29 posts, if you have a problem with my style of posting I suggest you make a formal complaint to the site owner Adam.   

[sumofallparts]

This is a bit of a mess.

I don't think Jim was deliberately trying to piss everyone off. I saw a girl last week, similarly "green" and i told her to up her prices too. I didn't have a deal with her and I didn't post about it - but sometimes you do meet nice girls, who by charging too little will meet some real scumbags - so you try and give a bit of friendly advice.

There seems to be a lot of tension on here these days. Let's get back to the main reason for being here and stop all this aggro!

[Steve2]

Mr 29 posts, if you have a problem with my style of posting I suggest you make a formal complaint to the site owner Adam.   

Mr 9009 posts, what is your problem?

You have been caught out talking bollocks. No offense meant

[bestbefore]

I saw a girl last week, similarly "green" and i told her to up her prices too. I didn't have a deal with her and I didn't post about it - but sometimes you do meet nice girls, who by charging too little will meet some real scumbags - so you try and give a bit of friendly advice.

There seems to be a lot of tension on here these days. Let's get back to the main reason for being here and stop all this aggro!

I really don't think that if you charge too little you meet scumbags. That is a wild and inaccurate generalisation. One of my best punts ever is just £60 an hour, and I am certainly no scumbag and she told me she has never had any problems whatsoever with difficult clients.

However 'green' a girl is, there is no reason to advise her to put her prices up. You would never go into a car showroom and suggest they charge you more for a car. Just do the maths on how much a wg earns.

If this is supposed to be a forum for punters to help each other then to suggest to a girl she should charge more is doing none of us any favours. We should be encouraging them to charge LESS!

There would be no tension on this forum if contributors treated each other with respect. The contributor who we are discussing has responded to my (and many many others)  posts aggressively, insultingly and patronisingly.

[Jimmyredcab]

Mr 9009 posts, what is your problem?

You have been caught out talking bollocks. No offense meant

Looks like I have another stalker, it happens every now and again, all part of the game I suppose. 

[Jimmyredcab]

There would be no tension on this forum if contributors treated each other with respect. The contributor who we are discussing has responded to my (and many many others)  posts aggressively, insultingly and patronisingly.

If you consider a post is insulting there is a button on the right marked ----- report to moderator, there are no moderators but that will go directly to the site owner.

[yumyum3]

I really don't think that if you charge too little you meet scumbags. That is a wild and inaccurate generalisation. One of my best punts ever is just £60 an hour, and I am certainly no scumbag and she told me she has never had any problems whatsoever with difficult clients.

However 'green' a girl is, there is no reason to advise her to put her prices up. You would never go into a car showroom and suggest they charge you more for a car. Just do the maths on how much a wg earns.

If this is supposed to be a forum for punters to help each other then to suggest to a girl she should charge more is doing none of us any favours. We should be encouraging them to charge LESS!

Good post. Nice to have another new (ish) member here with something to say. 

[Jimmyredcab]

This is a bit of a mess.

I don't think Jim was deliberately trying to piss everyone off. I saw a girl last week, similarly "green" and i told her to up her prices too. I didn't have a deal with her and I didn't post about it - but sometimes you do meet nice girls, who by charging too little will meet some real scumbags - so you try and give a bit of friendly advice.

There seems to be a lot of tension on here these days. Let's get back to the main reason for being here and stop all this aggro!

Let's get something clear.
I did not offer a good review in return for "favours" in the form of extra time or a discount.

All I asked was an assurance that if her business improved I could still see her at her original rates.

Maybe in future I should not file positive reviews, it seems that I have everything to lose and nothing to gain.   

[sumofallparts]

Somehow i seems to be a villain here? Few digs at me - when i was trying to smooth the waters and liked this place when there was less tension.

Maybe I should not try to help and leave people to publicly bitch about each other.

Sadly the moderation seems non existent on here. This place has changed.

[Jimmyredcab]

Somehow i seems to be a villain here? Few digs at me - when i was trying to smooth the waters and liked this place when there was less tension.

Maybe I should not try to help and leave people to publicly bitch about each other.

Sadly the moderation seems non existent on here. This place has changed.

If you prefer excessive moderation I can recommend a forum called %%%.   

[Horizontal pleasures]

Many guys claim they can fuck for an hour solid but there are a lot of liars in this business.

I simply pace myself and leave the main event for the final 15 minutes.

I like to punt for an hour but like to snuggle and snog and suck and be sucked before the main event. This is a nice report about a fine looking lady, thanks mister redcab

[Horizontal pleasures]

It is indeed a shame she now charges more, strange that one of 'us' gave that advice.

[Jimmyredcab]

I like to punt for an hour but like to snuggle and snog and suck and be sucked before the main event. This is a nice report about a fine looking lady, thanks mister redcab

Maybe a bit too slim for your taste.   

[Horizontal pleasures]

my preferences are not exclusive:
Link to this Profile Page using External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

[random]

Well I wouldn't go that far.

But if you openly admit to receiving favours for posting positive reviews, those reviews must lose some of their worth. Even when you're as experienced and respected as JRC.

If you saw her before the price rise and are a regular you could try for the same deal since you are aware of this now. Or maybe you could let her know she's being exploited by someone who keeps blabbing about this deal he has with her. He gets a discount but what does she get out of it? Nothing.

Oops actually meant to quote Bestbefore

[Jimmyredcab]

If you saw her before the price rise and are a regular you could try for the same deal since you are aware of this now. Or maybe you could let her know she's being exploited by someone who keeps blabbing about this deal he has with her. He gets a discount but what does she get out of it? Nothing.

What does she get out of it. ???????

By the looks of this thread, bundles of free advertising.   

[random]

Anyone here could have done that and as others have mentioned I don't think your reviews would be taken seriously in future anyway. She was brought up on here by somone else and others mentioned theyd seen her and how good she was. Maybe she'd do a discount for an AW field report or something if she's doing that sort of thing. 

[romster1]

Has anyone else seen her recently? I can't seem to find any field report about her which gives idea about her do's and dont's???

[Jimmyredcab]

Anyone here could have done that and as others have mentioned I don't think your reviews would be taken seriously in future anyway. She was brought up on here by somone else and others mentioned theyd seen her and how good she was. Maybe she'd do a discount for an AW field report or something if she's doing that sort of thing.

I have not asked for a discount, just requested that any future meetings would be at her original rate.   

I could not care less if you take my reviews seriously or not -------------one girl in the past told me that after I did a report on %%% her phone was red hot for days.

A good review from someone like myself is worth 100 reviews from someone like you who is totally unknown. 

[Tony Montana]

I have not asked for a discount, just requested that any future meetings would be at her original rate.   

So, you "requested" a discount of her current rates then.   

I could not care less if you take my reviews seriously or not -------------one girl in the past told me that after I did a report on %%% her phone was red hot for days.

   

    ... of course you never know if they are telling the truth, Pro$$ies are expert liars. 
   

A good review from someone like myself is worth 100 reviews from someone like you who is totally unknown. 

You think?

[Jimmyredcab]

So, you "requested" a discount of her current rates then.   

 

You can call it a discount if it makes you happy, I like to make people happy.   

[Essex3]

Link to this Profile Page using External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only -

[bigone]

200 pounds a hour i bet jimmys still on the old rates

[tom269u001]

£200 per hour - stupid cow!

[skittish]

Her original profile still live so maybe this second one is a fake, doesn't look like it's written by the same person. Different likes ie Anal, different phone number and different prices. Of course that could be the plan but I'm more than a little sceptical.

[HotSausage]

Her original profile still live so maybe this second one is a fake, doesn't look like it's written by the same person.

It does include a photo that I don't recall ever seeing on her original site though.

[skittish]

It does include a photo that I don't recall ever seeing on her original site though.

I did notice that but I haven't regularly checked the original profile so wasn't sure whether it had been on that one in the past. If you're right and it hasn't then it would appear she is being a chancer with a two tier pricing structure.

[Jimmyredcab]

I can't offer an explanation. My first thoughts were that someone had stolen her photos but that new profile contains a previously unseen photo. The phone number is different but that means very little.
I saw her on Monday and advised her to get a private gallery at £1 to cover some of her daily costs, she is still pretty green to this business.

[Jimmyredcab]

I did notice that but I haven't regularly checked the original profile so wasn't sure whether it had been on that one in the past. If you're right and it hasn't then it would appear she is being a chancer with a two tier pricing structure.

That does appear to be the case.   

I sent her a message asking if she was aware of the second profile, she read it and did not reply. 

[Jimmyredcab]

It looks like that stupid second profile has been taken down, no idea if she took it down or someone reported her to Adultwork. 

[DH]

Putting aside all the flaming in this thread, I made arrangements to see Lisa this weekend. I had her in my list long before this review at that time she did not had any, she is close by in my area and I'll take the chance to see her.

[Hetfield]

I had a booking to see Lisa months ago (towards the end of January I think it was) when her profile was still very new and she was charging £40 ph/h. Sadly I couldn't keep the meeting, and had to cancel (gave her 24hrs notice). Shame she's put her prices up as much as she has; I'd have gone along at £40/£50 a half hour, but not at £70. She's just "not that special" to me at that price. For that money, I'd be going back to Michelle in Chingford; closer, private residence, and (IMO) much, much hotter girl. I don't believe in paying a premium just because the girl is English; I believe in paying a premium for hotness. (and better service, but since I haven't sampled Lisa, I can't compare their service)

[Mr Choosey]

Hetfield. Would you mind posting the Chingford escorts AW profile for me please. Thanks

[HotSausage]

I visited Lisa a couple of weeks ago. She's certainly drop-dead gorgeous, but took little interest in proceedings, and seemed to be watching or listening to the TV throughout. I also got much less than the hour I'd paid for. One to avoid IMO.