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[Jimmyredcab]

Well I eventually got round to seeing this young lady and was pleased I persevered in my attempts to contact her, she displays her number but rarely answers the phone, you tend to get voicemail and then her message box is full.
She works from budget hotels in the Edmonton area, this one had plenty of parking at £1 for 2 hours, she told me it was free so make sure you have some change.
She is exactly like her photos and reminded me of the sort of girl you would see working in Barclays bank, looks like butter wouldn't melt in her mouth, also she is quite well spoken.
It took her 5 minutes to relax but she soon started to behave like a long lost girlfriend, although some of her services are "at discretion" she did everything I wanted and more.
At no time did I feel rushed, in fact the only "clock" was on my wrist so everything was at my pace. English girls of this quality are quite rare especially at a very sensible rate of £100 an hour, you can find far cheaper Eastern European girls in North London but I have read some real horror stories on here lately, not worth the risk in my opinion.
To sum her up, pretty face, perfect body and a terrific attitude ------- a real gem.

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[yumyum3]

Glad you had a good one, Jim. Good rates - the £50 for half hour would be ideal for me 

[Jimmyredcab]

Glad you had a good one, Jim. Good rates - the £50 for half hour would be ideal for me 

She did admit that the £50 service is more of a cum once quickie, I advised her to increase the rate slightly and offer a more unrushed service.
It is rare for 30 minutes to be half of the one hour rate. 

[skittish]

Nice one Jimmy wish you had PM'd me first I would have took Steve's 150/1 odds and paid for your punt 

Do you think she'll be a long-termer or should we get in quick any feelings?

[Jimmyredcab]

Do you think she'll be a long-termer or should we get in quick any feelings?

I don't think she will be retiring any time soon, she appears to like the work -------------- and the money.   

[bestbefore]

I saw her last week and thought she was great. really difficult to get hold of and even when I had prebooked and confirmed by text on the day, with her acknowledging, she was still shopping at the time of the meet and we started 15 minutes late. A little distant at first but then as soon as you hit the bed a different girl emerges. Very sensual and responsive. And a superb body. Pretty girl as well - as her photographs.
She is a bit of a wild child. Strange backstory. In the 60's she would have been a hippy! She clearly enjoys sex though - I think she will dip in and out of the sex industry. So catch her if you can, its worth persevering to meet her.

[Steve2]

She did admit that the £50 service is more of a cum once quickie, I advised her to increase the rate slightly and offer a more unrushed service.
It is rare for 30 minutes to be half of the one hour rate.

At last Jim . Congratulations on a good punt

I'm not sure about advising her to put up her rates though. 

[Jimmyredcab]

I'm not sure about advising her to put up her rates though. 

I only did that when she made it clear that the 30 minute service would be more like a "quickie".

Far better to charge the going rate of £60-£70 and give an unrushed service.

[Steve2]

So the 30 mins wasn't going to be 30 mins?

Or was she going to limit the services on offer?

[Jimmyredcab]

So the 30 mins wasn't going to be 30 mins?

Or was she going to limit the services on offer?

She wasn't specific but it seemed pretty clear to me that for a full on girlfriend experience you would do better to have the one hour service -------- and I am normally a 30 minute punter.
Maybe someone will give us a report of the shorter service.

[Steve2]

I am normally a 30 minute punter too so it'd be a NO from me if she didn't offer the same service in 30 mins

Did you last the full hr Jim?

[supastarjay]

I am normally a 30 minute punter too so it'd be a NO from me if she didn't offer the same service in 30 mins

well if she started going on about things 'at discretion' thats probably what she meant 

[MrIncognito]

Well I eventually got round to seeing this young lady and was pleased I persevered in my attempts to contact her, she displays her number but rarely answers the phone, you tend to get voicemail and then her message box is full.

She looks and sounds really good, how many attempts did you have to make to contact her before you managed to book her?

[Jimmyredcab]

She looks and sounds really good, how many attempts did you have to make to contact her before you managed to book her?

Not that many, but don't expect an instant response. 

[Jimmyredcab]

Did you last the full hr Jim?

Many guys claim they can fuck for an hour solid but there are a lot of liars in this business.

I simply pace myself and leave the main event for the final 15 minutes.

[Jimmyredcab]

well if she started going on about things 'at discretion' thats probably what she meant 

Many girls say "at discretion" when they have no intention of offering a certain service.

That is not the case with this girl.

Do you expect girls to do DFK with a guy who stinks.   

[MKDons]

Agree with Jim overall - great looking girl, great attitude, v good service & vfm.

Only challenge is getting past reception at the Travel Lodge hotel when she works there (all last week & this week) - you need a key to actually to actually gain access to the main hotel. She mentions parking in ASDA although I parked in the local paid car park (as did Jim by the sounds of it).

[Jimmyredcab]

Agree with Jim overall - great looking girl, great attitude, v good service & vfm.

Only challenge is getting past reception at the Travel Lodge hotel when she works there

It will be ever harder now you have named the hotel.     

[bigone]

I advised her to increase the rate slightly
 

[tda666]

Thanks for the report. I will stick her straight in my hotlist and hopefully be in her area sometime soon.

[MKDons]

It will be ever harder now you have named the hotel.     

"Chill Winston chill"

1. She has already been thrown out of the hotel once before!*?
2. In a 15-square foot reception where you are in full view of reception the only unopen door is to the toilet!*?
3. I have advised her on other hotels to look at & what to look for e.g. easy access past reception for customers (rather than having the hoody come down to open the door!*?)

I can't see it getting any harder & more difficult to punt there & fellow punters have the right to know - naming the hotel in this instance & given the context is no big deal in my humble opinion.

[Jimmyredcab]

"Chill Winston chill"

1. She has already been thrown out of the hotel once before!*?
2. In a 15-square foot reception where you are in full view of reception the only unopen door is to the toilet!*?
3. I have advised her on other hotels to look at & what to look for e.g. easy access past reception for customers (rather than having the hoody come down to open the door!*?)

I can't see it getting any harder & more difficult to punt there & fellow punters have the right to know - naming the hotel in this instance & given the context is no big deal in my humble opinion.

It is unlikely the Travelodge staff read UKPunting however it is possible some of her rivals or their pimps do, they may be tempted to inform the hotel.
Regarding parking in Asda car park, it is not free, you take a ticket on entry which has to be paid before you leave.

[bestbefore]

"Chill Winston chill"



I can't see it getting any harder & more difficult to punt there & fellow punters have the right to know - naming the hotel in this instance & given the context is no big deal in my humble opinion.

Naming any hotel is NOT a good idea, as many other threads on this confirm. This forum is open to police, local authority licensing officers, rival hotel groups, etc etc. remember that police infiltrated many movements. Which website do you suppose a young vice squad officer looking to make some quick arrests to further his career would register with first!

Please never name hotels and exercise extreme caution on this site. It is open to anyone - even maybe our wives!

[MKDons]

Thanks for all the feedback.

Jim at no point did I mention that ASDA car parking was free - I didn't even use it as I parked in the adjacent paid car park re my post?

[Jimmyredcab]

Thanks for all the feedback.

Jim at no point did I mention that ASDA car parking was free - I didn't even use it as I parked in the adjacent paid car park re my post?

You suggested that I probably used the same paid car park as you.
I am only pointing out that there is not a free car park in that complex, could pose a problem if you have no change. 

[Whore Of Babylon]

Many girls say "at discretion" when they have no intention of offering a certain service.

That is not the case with this girl.

Do you expect girls to do DFK with a guy who stinks.   

Great you hear you had a good punt Jimmy.
I think a some good prossies use "at discretion" properly. Which as you say is to weed out the few stinky punters, pretty reasonable really.

[Matium]

Which website do you suppose a young vice squad officer looking to make some quick arrests to further his career would register with first!

Prostitution is legal in Britain.

[workinallweek]

nice one jim

[bestbefore]

Prostitution is legal in Britain.

Running a brothel is NOT legal.

Several brothels were raided in North London this week. If the police believed a prostitution ring was operating from a hotel they might take action.

My point was that naming a hotel where prostitution was taking place was NOT cool. There may be police, local councillors, licensing officers and suspicious wives logging in to this site.

[Jimmyredcab]

Running a brothel is NOT legal.

Several brothels were raided in North London this week. If the police believed a prostitution ring was operating from a hotel they might take action.

My point was that naming a hotel where prostitution was taking place was NOT cool. There may be police, local councillors, licensing officers and suspicious wives logging in to this site.

One girl working from a hotel room would not be doing anything against the law, I don't know why brothels have even been mentioned.

The problem is that it would probably not be tolerated should the hotel management be made aware of what is happening.

[Steve2]

One girl working from a hotel room would not be doing anything against the law.

I think she would

As the hotel probably has a bar it is licensed premises

IF the hotel management knew the girl was a prostitute then the shit could hit the fan and if there was another prostitute working from the same hotel, even if not at the same time, I think it could be classed as a brothel

Where is Silverado when you need him?

[Jimmyredcab]

One girl working from a hotel room would not be doing anything against the law.

I think she would

As the hotel probably has a bar it is licensed premises

IF the hotel management knew the girl was a prostitute then the shit could hit the fan

Steve, sorry mate you are talking absolute cobblers.

No Travelodge has a bar, at least the 5 or 6 that I have stayed in.   

[bestbefore]

Steve, sorry mate you are talking absolute cobblers.

No Travelodge has a bar, at least the 5 or 6 that I have stayed in.   

Of course T......... have liquor licenses. They even mention it on their websites. Most of their business comes from conferences, stag and hen parties. No hotel would get built unless planning consent included licensing.

The point Was that the name of the hotel should never have been mentioned on this site.

All hotel chains would do searches on the web for mention of their brand and the last thing they want is prostitution taking place on their premises being in the public domain.

Or local council, officials, councillors, licensing officers etc etc.

[lovingfacials]

On a side note you would be pissed as I was once when staying in a mid priced hotel chain in London right by Euston Station (with my family) when it was SOOOOO obvious the clinet next door was a hooker, the comings (no pun) and goings was so fucking annoying.

 As was the noises!

We asked to move rooms and they moved us and I am sure would of cleared her out in a hearbeat.............the wife was moaning at me and I was playing the fool saying I dont know what was happening next door, but secertly thinking 'been there'!

I dont think imho it is cool to name the hotels being used, and I knoe if I had suggested to the reception desk my opinion of what was happening PLOD may of been called

[lovingfacials]

On a side note you would be pissed as I was once when staying in a mid priced hotel chain in London right by Euston Station (with my family) when it was SOOOOO obvious the clinet next door was a hooker, the comings (no pun) and goings was so fucking annoying.

 As was the noises!

We asked to move rooms and they moved us and I am sure would of cleared her out in a hearbeat.............the wife was moaning at me and I was playing the fool saying I dont know what was happening next door, but secertly thinking 'been there'!

I dont think imho it is cool to name the hotels being used, and I knoe if I had suggested to the reception desk my opinion of what was happening PLOD may of been called as main stream hotel chains dont want that type of client/reputation

[Steve2]

Steve, sorry mate you are talking absolute cobblers.

No Travelodge has a bar, at least the 5 or 6 that I have stayed in.   

With the greatest respect, you are talking bollocks, no offense meant.

I think you have led a sheltered life JIM

Most Travelodges have a bar

[Jimmyredcab]

Most Travelodges have a bar

Well not the one in Edmonton, or Barking, or Glastonbury, or Sheffield.

Have any of you guys ever used a Travelodge, they don't even have a phone in the room let alone a bar on the premises. 

[Jimmyredcab]

On checking the Travelodge website it appears that SOME of their hotels have a bar ----- however the one in question doesn't.

I still can't see that she is doing anything against the law even if it against the rules of the hotel.

I am sure our resident legal expert Silverado could clarify one way or the other.

[Steve2]

Well not the one in Edmonton, or Barking, or Glastonbury, or Sheffield.

Have any of you guys ever used a Travelodge, they don't even have a phone in the room let alone a bar on the premises. 

I have stayed in several that do have a bar

The 2 at Kings Cross, Euston rd and Watford all have bars 

[Steve2]

On checking the Travelodge website it appears that SOME of their hotels have a bar ----- however the one in question doesn't.

I still can't see that she is doing anything against the law even if it against the rules of the hotel.

I am sure our resident legal expert Silverado could clarify one way or the other.

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Police investigating after prostitutes are caught selling sex for £60-a-night at Travelodge. If it was legal they why were police involved?

[Joe Blob]

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Police investigating after prostitutes are caught selling sex for £60-a-night at Travelodge. If it was legal they why were police involved?

Because the hotel called them. If the police are investigating, as opposed to just having helped the hotel boot them, it would probably be into whether any of them were trafficked/working against their will, or whether anyone could be done for 'controlling.' 

I guess it's also possible someone could be done for running a brothel, even though the premises weren't theirs, the hotel certainly couldn't be prosecuted.  But if just one indie works from a hotel, I can't see how she's doing anything illegal.

[carlisle78]

"the police are investigating" is just Daily Mail lazy arse journalism code for "I saw a copper at the hotel but couldn't be arsed to check the facts but I'll say it anyway."

[Jimmyredcab]

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Police investigating after prostitutes are caught selling sex for £60-a-night at Travelodge. If it was legal they why were police involved?

Simple answer, the police have an obligation to investigate to see if there had been any illegal activity, this is why they got involved ---      The Sun uncovered the story after sending reporters to the hotel - none of whom took up the offers of sex.

A budget hotel can't be expected to monitor everyone who enters and leaves the hotel.   

[Whore Of Babylon]

Because the hotel called them. If the police are investigating, as opposed to just having helped the hotel boot them, it would probably be into whether any of them were trafficked/working against their will, or whether anyone could be done for 'controlling.' 

I guess it's also possible someone could be done for running a brothel, even though the premises weren't theirs, the hotel certainly couldn't be prosecuted.  But if just one indie works from a hotel, I can't see how she's doing anything illegal.

Even if two indies were working from an Hotel, they couldn't be prosecuted. Officially the person who runs the Brothel is the only person who can be prosecuted. Not the SPs working in it.
So the Hotel is 'at fault' but nobody would really take an Hotel to task unless they were definitely aware and managing girls. The hotel can kick the girls out. But not sure if they officially have to refund room cost etc....
The police probably can make a fuss, intimidate the girl, ask for details etc...    but there's not really anything they could charge her with.

[k]

From what I remember reading about in the old days hotels appeared (on the surface at least) to be more worried then about falling foul of fire regulations than anything else - having more people in the room than which had been officially booked in. 

[Joe Blob]

Even if two indies were working from an Hotel, they couldn't be prosecuted. Officially the person who runs the Brothel is the only person who can be prosecuted. Not the SPs working in it.
So the Hotel is 'at fault' but nobody would really take an Hotel to task unless they were definitely aware and managing girls. The hotel can kick the girls out. But not sure if they officially have to refund room cost etc....
The police probably can make a fuss, intimidate the girl, ask for details etc...    but there's not really anything they could charge her with.

Two indies couldn't, but two working together, booking two rooms (or one) at the same time, possibly could. The quote from the Mail had the hotel saying they wouldn't take bookings from this company again, suggesting that one source was booking rooms for several girls.  If you can be done for running a brothel in a rented flat, why not a rented hotel room?

[bestbefore]

I advised her to increase the rate slightly

Brilliiant! Some ******* advised an escort to raise her rates

guess what!

She has, so now we all have to pay more because of some thoughtless suggestion.

Do you guys go into John Lewis and suggest they charge more for their stuff?

Please, if you have a few brain cells, NEVER suggest to an escort they put their prices up. Or surprise, surprise, they will. Do the maths. They earn enough and don't trouble the Inland Rev too much either.

Doubtless from this esteemed (LOL!) contributor there will be the usual offensive, negative and unhelpful response, which I and I suggest others who get similar responses, will and should ignore.

[Jimmyredcab]

Doubtless from this esteemed (LOL!) contributor there will be the usual offensive, negative and unhelpful response, which I and I suggest others who get similar responses, will and should ignore.

Listen Mr 28 posts.
Any price increase will not affect me so why should I care. 

[Jimmyredcab]

Brilliiant! Some ******* advised an escort to raise her rates

Nice bit of selective editing by the way.
This was the full post -----

She did admit that the £50 service is more of a cum once quickie, I advised her to increase the rate slightly and offer a more unrushed service.
It is rare for 30 minutes to be half of the one hour rate.

[Steve2]

Listen Mr 28 posts.
Any price increase will not affect me so why should I care. 

Putting the punter 1st???????????????????

Great call Jim . NOT