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Offline jventure

Greetings from across the pond gents!

Next month I embark on a 25-day trip to Europe, and I'm hoping to punt my way across the continent while taking in the sights and the culture. I am going to be spending five days each in London, Paris, Amsterdam, Berlin, and Rome... and I need some advice. I have kind of a lot of questions so I apologize in advance for the long post.

I'll be in London first. Looking around online I thought I had it figured out right up until I saw one asian agency warning people about scammers... then I started googling scams and while I don't feel that I'm entirely back to square one, I'm definitely a lot less confident than I was. If you lads could set me right on my trip to London, I'd appreciate it. Advice on what to do in other cities is appreciated but by no means expected; I'll include my plans for the other cities at the end of my post.

So... a few things.

First question - all of this is legal, right?

Next question - should I get a phone specifically for my trip to Europe and use that? Can you get burner phones easily in England? I'd prefer not to leave a trail so to speak, and from what I've read you need a phone to confirm appointments.

I'm a bit of a "top shelf" kind of guy and really want the girls I meet up with to be 9+. I also have a bit of an Asian fetish and was planning to do at least a couple nights along those lines. I also really like A-Level experiences and would generally prefer to do that, although I might dabble a little elsewhere based on some of what I've read.

I guess the next question I would ask is about the agencies I've already talked to. The first is http://www.divaescort.com/ and I had a couple of good email exchanges with them. Are they reputable? I sort of get a mixed vibe from the googling I've done. The two specific girls I've talked to them about are

https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-paddington-parker/
https://www.divaescort.com/girls/blonde-bayswater-mallory/

but I can't seem to find any reviews. I don't want to walk into a disaster as this really is sort of a once in a lifetime opportunity for me.

Next I'm considering the different asian agencies. Some of them just seem too good to be true.

Does anyone know anything about this agency? http://www.asianmodelslondon.co.uk/escort/runa

A reverse image search on the girl I linked turned nothing up I think because of the water mark.

Are there any particular London asian agencies that are highly reputable?

OK that does it for the agency questions. Here's a few random extra questions about London:

Does anyone know how to find an Irish girl? I didn't have much luck googling and I have a feeling I don't even know the right sites that "people in the know" go to. America is really, really different from the UK.

Should I set up an evening with House of Divine? Am I going to have better or worse odds there than with an agency? Any other similar places I should consider?

Should I consider cheap quick punts with Soho walk-ups? I know before I listed some pretty specific needs, but honestly I'm a "can go four times a day" kind of guy as long as I spread it out a little. I was thinking some daytime jaunts there might be fun but I'm not clear if it's worth the money vis-a-vis other experiences I could get.

Are there independents I should be considering? Is there a good way to find them? It seems more hit-or-miss from the little bit of searching that I did, and they seem much lower on average appearance. But again, I might be just totally looking in the wrong places.

Last, is there anything I forgot to ask? Anything I should know? I want to make this trip as memorable as I can and I'm ready to drop plenty of quid to make that happen.

Bonus: My plans for other cities... any and all advice is appreciated...

Paris: Considering avoiding as apparently there is now a 1500 EUR fine for soliciting? Or is there a good and safe way to punt there?

Amsterdam: Just gonna hit the red light district. I've read some articles saying be careful to negotiate everything before agreeing, but other than that it seems straightforward. I've also heard there are brothels there but not sure why I would prefer that?

Berlin: Was going to hit up FKK Artemis. I also saw in the news that they got raided hardcore over some shady stuff so not sure that's the best plan. I'm definitely not doing the "all you can fuck" places because I heard the girls there are really terrible. I also understand that there are a ton of streetwalkers; I may be missing something on the agency front as what little I saw seemed really subpar compared to what seems to be offered elsewhere... but Berlin has a reputation as the "sex capital of Europe?" What am I missing?

Rome: No idea where to start. There are a couple sites recycling the same girls but their prices seem irrationally high. Advice appreciated.

Super super bonus: What's a good pub friendly to Arsenal that I can go to to watch their match against Leicester City? I was hoping to see the Gunners in person but I'm not dropping 750 pounds for shit seats in the visitor section and catching a train to Leicester City to make that happen.

Thank you any and everyone who responds in advance; I'll check in and respond to your responses as best I can.





Greetings from across the pond gents!

Greetings and welcome to UKP forum.

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I'll be in London first. Looking around online I thought I had it figured out right up until I saw one asian agency warning people about scammers... then I started googling scams and while I don't feel that I'm entirely back to square one, I'm definitely a lot less confident than I was.

First question - all of this is legal, right?

Yes it's legal to pay money for sex in the UK. It's illegal to own a brothel but not illegal to visit one. It's illegal to see prossies who are trafficked and it's illegal to kerb crawl on the street.

There are scammers out there who take your money and run, but those are rare. A good place to start is https://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/New_to_Punting and you can look up Independent girls on adultwork.com. When you see a girl you're interested in, search this forum with the adultwork profile name or number. Check reviews here - don't trust reviews on adultwork as they're usually bullshit there.

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Next question - should I get a phone specifically for my trip to Europe and use that?

Depends how worried you are about Google, Facebook, and your wife spying on you. Just get a cheap pay as you go phone for calling WGs.

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Should I set up an evening with House of Divine? ... Should I consider cheap quick punts with Soho walk-ups?

Read the London board under Regional punting. There's a whole thread about the Soho walkups. In general, HOD has had a lot of positive feedback so it's your call.

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Last, is there anything I forgot to ask? Anything I should know? I want to make this trip as memorable as I can and I'm ready to drop plenty of quid to make that happen.

Whatever services you're looking for (Asian, Irish, blonde, etc) can be searched on adultwork. If you're planning to punt in London, you should have no trouble finding whatever it is you're looking for.

One final thing - post a review here when you've punted!
« Last Edit: July 16, 2016, 12:37:52 AM by poseidon »

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"Does anyone know how to find an Irish girl? I didn't have much luck googling and I have a feeling I don't even know the right sites that "people in the know" go to. America is really, really different from the UK.


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Offline Steely Dan

First question - all of this is legal, right?
For you yes. As long as they are over age not trafficked etc.  Read the wiki.
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Next question - should I get a phone specifically for my trip to Europe and use that? Can you get burner phones easily in England? I'd prefer not to leave a trail so to speak, and from what I've read you need a phone to confirm appointments.
Yes. The name of our country is the United Kingdom.  If you can't learn the name of our country, stay in Yankee-land or Dixie.
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I'm a bit of a "top shelf" kind of guy and really want the girls I meet up with to be 9+. I also have a bit of an Asian fetish and was planning to do at least a couple nights along those lines. I also really like A-Level experiences and would generally prefer to do that, although I might dabble a little elsewhere based on some of what I've read.

I guess the next question I would ask is about the agencies I've already talked to. The first is http://www.divaescort.com/ and I had a couple of good email exchanges with them. Are they reputable? I sort of get a mixed vibe from the googling I've done.
Agencies have their place.  But they are like McDonalds.  No food poisoning. Safe.  It was dinner.  But with a bit of planning (as you are doing) doing better is easy.
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The two specific girls I've talked to them about are

https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-paddington-parker/
https://www.divaescort.com/girls/blonde-bayswater-mallory/

but I can't seem to find any reviews. I don't want to walk into a disaster as this really is sort of a once in a lifetime opportunity for me.
Weird.  Great looking pics.  No real guys have seen them.  Can't think of why.  Pics can't lie, can they? Shall we believe the pics or the lack of reviews?
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Next I'm considering the different asian agencies. Some of them just seem too good to be true.

Does anyone know anything about this agency? http://www.asianmodelslondon.co.uk/escort/runa

A reverse image search on the girl I linked turned nothing up I think because of the water mark.

Are there any particular London asian agencies that are highly reputable?
I confess I like Invasion. YMMV.  Did you see the Wiki page on agencies?
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OK that does it for the agency questions. Here's a few random extra questions about London:

Does anyone know how to find an Irish girl? I didn't have much luck googling and I have a feeling I don't even know the right sites that "people in the know" go to. America is really, really different from the UK.
There are a fair few in Ireland. In the UK, look in Adultwork (Oh you do know the name of our country)
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Should I set up an evening with House of Divine? Am I going to have better or worse odds there than with an agency? Any other similar places I should consider?
Just an agency that has in calls so is technically a brothel. Nothing special.  No need to avoid.  Not a bucket list place. Now TPC is a bucket list place!
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Should I consider cheap quick punts with Soho walk-ups? I know before I listed some pretty specific needs, but honestly I'm a "can go four times a day" kind of guy as long as I spread it out a little. I was thinking some daytime jaunts there might be fun but I'm not clear if it's worth the money vis-a-vis other experiences I could get.
Not sure what you like.  If you want an experience then sure why not? The walk up thread is what, 500 pages long?  Many guys like this. If you want variety then perhaps. 

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Are there independents I should be considering? Is there a good way to find them? It seems more hit-or-miss from the little bit of searching that I did, and they seem much lower on average appearance. But again, I might be just totally looking in the wrong places.
95% of the reviews on UKP are independents. To find them read reviews on UKP.  Any with 3+ reviews here (950 girls or so) are a safe bet. Some have 50+ reviews.  very safe bet.  But every guy is different, it is never sure.  But for me a named independent with 3+ reviews is safer than 'Candy from BlandCity Escorts' who the pimp tells me 'is adventurous'. Really, read all of KDD's or Ellie Rose's adventures or any of the Adele's or Hazel's mentioned on this site first.
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Last, is there anything I forgot to ask? Anything I should know? I want to make this trip as memorable as I can and I'm ready to drop plenty of quid to make that happen.
We still dont know what you want other than sex with whores.
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Bonus: My plans for other cities... any and all advice is appreciated...

Paris: Considering avoiding as apparently there is now a 1500 EUR fine for soliciting? Or is there a good and safe way to punt there?

Amsterdam: Just gonna hit the red light district. I've read some articles saying be careful to negotiate everything before agreeing, but other than that it seems straightforward. I've also heard there are brothels there but not sure why I would prefer that?
Move on.  It was good in the 80s.  it is not the 80s
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Berlin: Was going to hit up FKK Artemis. I also saw in the news that they got raided hardcore over some shady stuff so not sure that's the best plan. I'm definitely not doing the "all you can fuck" places because I heard the girls there are really terrible. I also understand that there are a ton of streetwalkers; I may be missing something on the agency front as what little I saw seemed really subpar compared to what seems to be offered elsewhere... but Berlin has a reputation as the "sex capital of Europe?" What am I missing?
Artemis is great.  Not shady in my experience.  Were the sources that said it was bad 'pro-punter' or 'sex is a sin' sites?  It terms of Annie Porshe and other sites, what do you like?  If you want 21 year old playboy models only then avoid.  But many punters like it very much.  We dont know what you like.
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Rome: No idea where to start. There are a couple sites recycling the same girls but their prices seem irrationally high. Advice appreciated.

Super super bonus: What's a good pub friendly to Arsenal that I can go to to watch their match against Leicester City? I was hoping to see the Gunners in person but I'm not dropping 750 pounds for shit seats in the visitor section and catching a train to Leicester City to make that happen.

Thank you any and everyone who responds in advance; I'll check in and respond to your responses as best I can.

Look here for all the London escorts
https://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/London
It terms of what you want, why not have a dom spank your ass? (I know one will tie you and kick you in the balls)Book a FFFM foursome? Do a sex party? Or just book a girl bigger or smaller, older or younger than your norm?
« Last Edit: July 16, 2016, 01:09:26 AM by Steely Dan »

If your mobile phone is open to use different company sim cards, then you can buy a "pay as u go" sim card for £1.

You can purchase these in may stores and there is no registration for these, so it will leave no paper trail  :thumbsup:

Then simple top up the card with credit and you can text or call the Escorts with it.

Berlin: Was going to hit up FKK Artemis. I also saw in the news that they got raided hardcore over some shady stuff so not sure that's the best plan. I'm definitely not doing the "all you can fuck" places because I heard the girls there are really terrible. I also understand that there are a ton of streetwalkers; I may be missing something on the agency front as what little I saw seemed really subpar compared to what seems to be offered elsewhere... but Berlin has a reputation as the "sex capital of Europe?" What am I missing?

Berlin is very tolerant about sex, but you cannot interpret that to being a punting capital.

Artemis has recovered from the raid. Go to Artemis after 7pm because more girls will be working. Do not bother with the streetwalkers. If you go to the Int'l Sex Guide web site, there is more info on Artemis and Berlin.

Have fun!

Offline jventure

Thank you everyone for your replies. I will definitely write up the results of what I do in here. And sorry for conflating England with the UK.

Offline jventure

Maybe I'm stupid but I cannot figure out how to enter search terms into adult work.

Offline Steely Dan

Maybe I'm stupid but I cannot figure out how to enter search terms into adult work.
You don't put in any terms.  On the search menu you tick boxes and things. Like Age, location, dress size and so on.  All 4 tabs operate together. 
https://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/AdultWork
https://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/New_to_Punting#How_do_I_find_a_girl_on_AW.3F
« Last Edit: July 19, 2016, 12:39:28 AM by Steely Dan »

Offline Dicky

Greetings from across the pond gents!

Next month I embark on a 25-day trip to Europe, and I'm hoping to punt my way across the continent while taking in the sights and the culture. I am going to be spending five days each in London, Paris, Amsterdam, Berlin, and Rome... and I need some advice. I have kind of a lot of questions so I apologize in advance for the long post.

I'll be in London first. Looking around online I thought I had it figured out right up until I saw one asian agency warning people about scammers... then I started googling scams and while I don't feel that I'm entirely back to square one, I'm definitely a lot less confident than I was. If you lads could set me right on my trip to London, I'd appreciate it. Advice on what to do in other cities is appreciated but by no means expected; I'll include my plans for the other cities at the end of my post.

So... a few things.

First question - all of this is legal, right?

Next question - should I get a phone specifically for my trip to Europe and use that? Can you get burner phones easily in England? I'd prefer not to leave a trail so to speak, and from what I've read you need a phone to confirm appointments.

I'm a bit of a "top shelf" kind of guy and really want the girls I meet up with to be 9+. I also have a bit of an Asian fetish and was planning to do at least a couple nights along those lines. I also really like A-Level experiences and would generally prefer to do that, although I might dabble a little elsewhere based on some of what I've read.

I guess the next question I would ask is about the agencies I've already talked to. The first is http://www.divaescort.com/ and I had a couple of good email exchanges with them. Are they reputable? I sort of get a mixed vibe from the googling I've done. The two specific girls I've talked to them about are

https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-paddington-parker/
https://www.divaescort.com/girls/blonde-bayswater-mallory/

but I can't seem to find any reviews. I don't want to walk into a disaster as this really is sort of a once in a lifetime opportunity for me.

Next I'm considering the different asian agencies. Some of them just seem too good to be true.

Does anyone know anything about this agency? http://www.asianmodelslondon.co.uk/escort/runa

A reverse image search on the girl I linked turned nothing up I think because of the water mark.

Are there any particular London asian agencies that are highly reputable?

OK that does it for the agency questions. Here's a few random extra questions about London:

Does anyone know how to find an Irish girl? I didn't have much luck googling and I have a feeling I don't even know the right sites that "people in the know" go to. America is really, really different from the UK.

Should I set up an evening with House of Divine? Am I going to have better or worse odds there than with an agency? Any other similar places I should consider?

Should I consider cheap quick punts with Soho walk-ups? I know before I listed some pretty specific needs, but honestly I'm a "can go four times a day" kind of guy as long as I spread it out a little. I was thinking some daytime jaunts there might be fun but I'm not clear if it's worth the money vis-a-vis other experiences I could get.

Are there independents I should be considering? Is there a good way to find them? It seems more hit-or-miss from the little bit of searching that I did, and they seem much lower on average appearance. But again, I might be just totally looking in the wrong places.

Last, is there anything I forgot to ask? Anything I should know? I want to make this trip as memorable as I can and I'm ready to drop plenty of quid to make that happen.

Bonus: My plans for other cities... any and all advice is appreciated...

Paris: Considering avoiding as apparently there is now a 1500 EUR fine for soliciting? Or is there a good and safe way to punt there?

Amsterdam: Just gonna hit the red light district. I've read some articles saying be careful to negotiate everything before agreeing, but other than that it seems straightforward. I've also heard there are brothels there but not sure why I would prefer that?

Berlin: Was going to hit up FKK Artemis. I also saw in the news that they got raided hardcore over some shady stuff so not sure that's the best plan. I'm definitely not doing the "all you can fuck" places because I heard the girls there are really terrible. I also understand that there are a ton of streetwalkers; I may be missing something on the agency front as what little I saw seemed really subpar compared to what seems to be offered elsewhere... but Berlin has a reputation as the "sex capital of Europe?" What am I missing?

Rome: No idea where to start. There are a couple sites recycling the same girls but their prices seem irrationally high. Advice appreciated.

Super super bonus: What's a good pub friendly to Arsenal that I can go to to watch their match against Leicester City? I was hoping to see the Gunners in person but I'm not dropping 750 pounds for shit seats in the visitor section and catching a train to Leicester City to make that happen.

Thank you any and everyone who responds in advance; I'll check in and respond to your responses as best I can.

Hi buddy, as a fellow American, the best piece of advice I can give you is: read the reviews section here. Pick the best reviewed girls here and you will not go wrong.

The other piece of advice is wrt the girls whose links you have posted. The Easter European girls are heavily photoshopped in the links, to the extent that it will be a complete lottery. Also they have not been reviewed here, meaning there is a big chance you will get a shit but expensive punt.

The asian girl is lovely and I am 101% sure it will be a scam. You dont get Japanese or South Koreans whoring in London (unlike the almost exclusively South Korean scene stateside). What you will get is a selection of very good in service but not as much lookswise Thai girls. The good sites to book thai girls are 007 Escorts and Aisha Invasian.

Seeing as you said you prefer 9s, you might not find Soho walkups to be of any use (disclaimer, I have never gone that way). Read the London reviews section here and you will find the top girls of London.

House of Divine: used to be really good till about 5 years back. Now all you will get is tired looking old girls (mostly the same from 5-10 yrs back).  And no, technically it is still a brothel as there might be 2 or more girls operating.

Amsterdam: the red light area is probably a bucket list thing but it is pretty crappy service. You might actually find 9s there (most probly Romanians) who will give you the shittiest service of your life (my one and only experience was when I was 21 and the gorgeous Romanian girl admonished me for touching her boobs during cowgirl saying, 'dont touch me, I am not your girlfriend)!

Germany: Artemis need be the only place you go to. It is very good. You can read up the international section here for some very detailed accounts.

Have fun! Be prepared to walk a lot or take public transport (unless you're from the East Coast in which case it will be a breeze). Your dollars will go a lot further now...and dont worry about calling it England...it wont be United Kingdom for very long, lol.  :drinks:

Offline mrhappypants

I think Dicky gives sensible advice.

A couple of additions.  No one has actually said it but it is probably worth pointing out that, in effect, this site operates symbiotically with Adultwork. Adultwork is THE place to go to for listing but the reviews are meaningless.  By contrast, while you need to read carefully and be mindful of the biasis of the reviewer, the reviews on here are highly informative. 

Second, covered service is, I think, very much OUT of fashion in London.  If you prefer covered service (condom for oral) you are going to find it much easier to get good looking bargains on AW.

Third, the English, Asian, Indian, Latin and black providers in London all charge at a premium compared to Poles and Hungarians.  $ for $, you will get better value with Poles or Hungarians.  In my view the Asian market is really poor both Indian subcontinent and Thai/ Japan/ Korean/ Chinese etc

Fourth, I think you are going to find it difficult to plan much in advance using the above so I would look at some of the top end agencies; Hamiltons, Maxes.  This option depends on the size of your budget and your appetite for risk.  You won't get great value but you are maybe more likely to book your 9.  Have this and HoD as a back up if more speculative plans fall through.

Finally, If you can leave an overview of what punting is like and how best to get paid sex where you are from on the international board you will have made a positive contribution to UKP.  I had a singularly unsuccessful (in terms of punts) trip to Australia two years ago.  Dispatches from the former colonies :D  are welcome.

Dave

Offline jventure

Wow I super appreciate both of the last two responses; you've given me a lot to think about.

As far as punting in the US goes, I could use some advice on that myself as I've largely avoided it due to the legal issues. Aside from one time in Vegas and a couple AMPs, I have nothing to offer. If someone could introduce me to the right people I'd start providing reviews but I'm too leery of LE over here to gamble.

Offline Dicky

Yes you're right...the US is very restrictive legally and hence quite expensive for the amount of money paid. In the US, Tinder or Seeking Arrangement is a much better bet..but takes up so much time that I just punt only when I am this side of the pond.




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