European Punting Trip

[bigpoppapomp]

I am looking to have a trip away in November for four nights to pursue a mix of tourist activities and punting so was after suggestions on places to consider going to. Not a fan of the FKK scene so not sure Berlin would be for me so have been looking at Budapest, Warsaw, Bucharest. Sofia or St Petersburg.

Do you guys have any thoughts on the above or other suggested places to consider?

[hungupdown]

Not tried any of those places, yet.

Favorite city is Lisbon. Interesting with plenty to do and see, spend an afternoon tasting Port, but compact so not too much travelling. Most is do-able by foot, but has extensive subway & tram network.
Good food and accommodation can be very cheap. I got a good deal in November 14.

WGs are maybe 80% Portuguese, a few young Russians, some Asian. Quite a few of the foreign WGs were travelling around, so maybe there just a few months at a time.

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[Marmalade]

Some great looking links for Lisbon there, duly noted with thanks.


 

[bigpoppapomp]

Cheers hung, what sort of price are you looking at on average for the independent girls, say for 30mins and 60mins? Around 60 and 100 euros?

[Jerboa]

I am looking to have a trip away in November for four nights to pursue a mix of tourist activities and punting so was after suggestions on places to consider going to. Not a fan of the FKK scene so not sure Berlin would be for me so have been looking at Budapest, Warsaw, Bucharest. Sofia or St Petersburg.

Do you guys have any thoughts on the above or other suggested places to consider?

Ok so what sort of punting are you looking for? You've tried a fkk and didn't like it yes?

[bigpoppapomp]

Not tried fkk but the concept of it and quality of girls I have seen on sites puts me off. Looking for somewhere I can try different types of girls, likely independents unless I find a reasonably priced agency. Mainly just looking for enthusiastic punts over gfe

[adindas]

Not tried fkk but the concept of it and quality of girls I have seen on sites puts me off.

Regarding the quality of the girls what put you off not attractive ?? If you can not find what you are looking for in FKK I doubt if you could find it in ordinary escorts agency or brothels. Unless of course you are into very high class escorts / courtesans, and therefore are willing to pay a few grands for having sex with them. Keep in mind there are a lot of FKKs.

Also just be aware, Most of FKK girls are not available on websites so what you see on there are just advertisements, samples, etc As freelancers they come and go quite often.

[bigpoppapomp]

I can see what you mean Adi, for me it's more about the concept putting me off, don't really want another guy's arse in my eye line etc..  In terms of indies, I saw a stunner in Madrid and it was around 80 euros so would rather do that on three different nights than visit a FKK

[jonn]

Watching this thread with interest  I too am looking for similar in europe - I enjoy the Asia bar based punt and having read about it the FKK's they do not appeal to me. I am thinking of Warsaw so I too would be interested in any experiences tvm

[Jerboa]

Not tried fkk but the concept of it and quality of girls I have seen on sites puts me off. Looking for somewhere I can try different types of girls, likely independents unless I find a reasonably priced agency. Mainly just looking for enthusiastic punts over gfe

Ok so you've judged something without ever visiting?
Most fkk girls are good looking, many stunning, but you rarely see genuine or clear photos to compare.

[Steely Dan]

I agree.  You are dismissing FKK unfairly.  And Berlin (Koln, Frankfurt where-ever) has lots more to offer.  So you are outvoted bigpooperpopper you need to go to Germany after all.  You can appeal this decision but court is busy so we cant hear your appeal for a year or so.  Meanwhile you might as well go for it.

[Jerboa]

I agree.  You are dismissing FKK unfairly.  And Berlin (Koln, Frankfurt where-ever) has lots more to offer.  So you are outvoted bigpooperpopper you need to go to Germany after all.  You can appeal this decision but court is busy so we cant hear your appeal for a year or so.  Meanwhile you might as well go for it.

I guess it's up to him, I understand to many punters, especially the guys who punt like they're Jason Bourne back in the UK, that going to a big brothel where they are together with other punters could feel daunting at first, can't say it bothered me much, as I was to busy staring at hot naked chicks. 

[bigpoppapomp]

I guess it's up to him, I understand to many punters, especially the guys who punt like they're Jason Bourne back in the UK, that going to a big brothel where they are together with other punters could feel daunting at first, can't say it bothered me much, as I was to busy staring at hot naked chicks. 

So if I was to give FKK a shot, where would you recommend, ideally somewhere where I can have an alternative to FKK as well if I didn't enjoy the experience?

[Ben4454]

I guess it's up to him, I understand to many punters, especially the guys who punt like they're Jason Bourne back in the UK, that going to a big brothel where they are together with other punters could feel daunting at first, can't say it bothered me much, as I was to busy staring at hot naked chicks. 

I have to agree. I think I was uncomfortable for about 1 second before i saw the first batch of hot chicks walk past in Artemis. Then it was a blast.

[Jerboa]

So if I was to give FKK a shot, where would you recommend, ideally somewhere where I can have an alternative to FKK as well if I didn't enjoy the experience?

Artemis Berlin, plenty of other options in the city, with any fkk you can leave and return later with no extra to pay.

[bigpoppapomp]

Cheers, any other countries aside from Germany where FKK is present as been to Berlin before so would ideally like to visit somewhere new though I did love Berlin a lot

[Jerboa]

Cheers, any other countries aside from Germany where FKK is present as been to Berlin before so would ideally like to visit somewhere new though I did love Berlin a lot

Other German cities to consider are Cologne, Düsseldorf and Frankfurt.

[Marmalade]

Do you guys have any thoughts on the above or other suggested places to consider?

People on here have many thoughts as they have been punting for a while. Do you have any 'thoughts' perhaps yourself? Or any past experiences to disabuse us of the idea that you might well be an inquisitive -- excuse the phrase -- fucking wanker?

How is it you make lots of 'enquiry' posts but never actually fucking see a bloody prostitute. Just here for the chat are you? Best of luck not getting any jizz on your school trousers. Oooops, doubtless you're a 'genuine punter' and being a gentleman don't want to give away details of fetid cunts where you've stuffed big poxy prick?

[bigpoppapomp]

Excellent marmalade, I have seen girls in the uk, in the east of England, happy to post links to their AW profiles but haven't reviewed as had nothing different to add to their past reviews.

Can understand your doubts but find the tone of your post a tad rude in truth

I have settled on a choice between Berlin, Budapest or Warsaw. Still think Atremis is a bit steep if I am correct in thinking that you pay €80 entry and then pay per punt, sounds like it could rack up a bit but may be wrong

[dsr]

I have to agree. I think I was uncomfortable for about 1 second before i saw the first batch of hot chicks walk past in Artemis. Then it was a blast.

What this guy says.  You stop giving a shit very, very quickly.  Plus if you really don't fancy that go to a German brothel.  No worrying about other guys, girls come to you.  You don't like what you see, then leave.

[Bionic]

So if I was to give FKK a shot, where would you recommend, ideally somewhere where I can have an alternative to FKK as well if I didn't enjoy the experience?

I'd highly recommend Frankfurt for FKK and escorts. I can still remember my first visit to The Palace many moons ago. Walking up to the glass doors on a Friday afternoon with an excited nervous feeling and then being asked by the receptionist, "Is this your first visit?" Then getting the newbie tour of lockers and safety boxes. Walking into the main area where there was around 40 naked girls is truly some spectacle and you feel like a kid in a sweet shop. Best night there was a Xmas party with easily 100 girls. I've also been to Mainhattan, Sharks and Oase, which are all easy to get to from central Frankfurt, but I've always stayed local. Also been to Villa Vertigo near Düsseldorf and Artemis in Berlin. An FKK offers so much options. Go early, enjoy sauna, steam room, massage, even sunbathe in some places, drink and eat and if nothing appeals, leave and then return later in the day after shift change.

[CityTillIDie]

People on here have many thoughts as they have been punting for a while. Do you have any 'thoughts' perhaps yourself? Or any past experiences to disabuse us of the idea that you might well be an inquisitive -- excuse the phrase -- fucking wanker?

How is it you make lots of 'enquiry' posts but never actually fucking see a bloody prostitute. Just here for the chat are you? Best of luck not getting any jizz on your school trousers. Oooops, doubtless you're a 'genuine punter' and being a gentleman don't want to give away details of fetid cunts where you've stuffed big poxy prick?

This is unnecessary IMO.

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[Marmalade]

This is unnecessary IMO.

CTID

Then ignore it.     I keep my own opinion.

[oring123]

Like every thing you dont know if you like it before you try it .
Then second time will be better .thats life.

[Gspotter]

Berlin is more than FKKs, there are good brothels and escorts working on their own.

I was in Lisbon a year ago, there were decent punting options.

If I had to choose, I'd go for Budapest or Bucharest. Both former E. European but less popular with tourists than Prague or St Petersburg. Hence punting prices are relatively inexpensive and there are many attractive girls.
Language can be a problem but I got by with looking at the local websites and using Google translate. I'd then send a text and ask if they spoke some English before making a booking.

[Marmalade]

Google translate is great for punting abroad. I also add Chrome to my smartphone -- instant translation of foreign prossie directories. 

[Jerboa]

Berlin is more than FKKs, there are good brothels and escorts working on their own.

I was in Lisbon a year ago, there were decent punting options.

If I had to choose, I'd go for Budapest or Bucharest. Both former E. European but less popular with tourists than Prague or St Petersburg. Hence punting prices are relatively inexpensive and there are many attractive girls.
Language can be a problem but I got by with looking at the local websites and using Google translate. I'd then send a text and ask if they spoke some English before making a booking.

I wouldn't recommend Budapest solely for punting, I visited in December, and you need to speak some Hungarian to punt there, as many girls on Roszlanyok just hang up when you speak english, and some of the girls who do speak english are tourist hustlers who will quote you high prices in Euros, tell you on the phone the service is for a hour, then once cash handed over it magically becomes a 10 minute service.

Maybe you had a better experience than me GSpotter, would you care to post your experiences in Budapest here? 

[Marmalade]

It's really up to the individual punter isn't it, though the more reports the merrier. For a newbie traveller-punter, Germany is a no-brainer. There are few places  in the world where you can have such hassle-free, straightforward, no strings or cons (on the whole) for easy paid sex. I imagine you need to be pretty dedicated to get a really good paid shag in France at a good price just now. Italy can be fun but can also be pretty hard work. Greece is hooching but far too dark and dangerous sounding for the uninitiated and Greek language and letters can again be offputting to a newbie. English might not be spoken that much in Germany but there is generally the feeling that it is 'civilised' in much the same sense as in Britain. I've tried Poland but don't know Eastern Europe very well. My feeling is that with such countries you need time to acclimatise and think a bit like a local, suss out the scene on the ground. Various countries have their aficionados but their wondrous exploits, genuine as they may be, seem only rarely confirmed by other punters. My own objection to Europe sometimes is the cost of hotels. I don't mind roughing it a bit for good pussy and all in all my expenses work out the same or better by spending enough on airfare to get to a developing country and then pay peanuts for hotels n hoors. 

[adindas]

My own objection to Europe sometimes is the cost of hotels. I don't mind roughing it a bit for good pussy and all in all my expenses work out the same or better by spending enough on airfare to get to a developing country and then pay peanuts for hotels n hoors. 

I fully agree with this. I sometimes getting return ticket to Cologne for £20. But I will normally pay the hotel around EUR 60 - EUR100 depending on the day, dates ....

Punting in developing countries in Asia or North Americe, you might get a bargain Hotel but at the same time the flight to get there is not as cheap than unting in Europe. Not to mention the time spend on the flight is also significant.

[webpunter]

For November - then i'd be steering towards either Berlin [Artemis] or Barcelona
If Jenna is to be back @ Artemis this would be a draw.  Otherwise Barcelona - only coz a cool place.  And more chance of a civvy shag as an added bonus.  Well maybe a short term friends-with-benefits arrangements.  Cheaper than Berlin all ways
Marbella / PuertoB / Fuengirola [Estark] are all within relatively easy reach of each other.  Not sure tho how busy / selection of burds out of season when quieter
Budapest ain't a bad call
France is shite.  Italy is hit & miss - i'd give it a miss

[Jerboa]

I fully agree with this. I sometimes getting return ticket to Cologne for £20. But I will normally pay the hotel around EUR 60 - EUR100 depending on the day, dates ....

Punting in developing countries in Asia or North Americe, you might get a bargain Hotel but at the same time the flight to get there is not as cheap than unting in Europe. Not to mention the time spend on the flight is also significant.

Or stay in a hostel, done it before, especially if it only to get 6 hrs kip, and spending rest of time in a club.

[adindas]

Or stay in a hostel, done it before, especially if it only to get 6 hrs kip, and spending rest of time in a club.

Indeed, staying in a bed in hostel's dormitory will be a solution. It is around £13 - £25. I did it before when I was a student. Also there are a lot of hostels in Germany.

I am getting old now and I am start snoring when sleeping, especially after having a few beers. I got experience before when I was sleeping in a dormitory, people throwing items to me tissues, papers during the night to keep me awake, because I keep making snooring noise disturbing them lol ..

I have stayed in a private room in a hostel. But it is still around EUR 50 in NRW area. In Berlin could as low as EUR 40.

[Gspotter]

I wouldn't recommend Budapest solely for punting, I visited in December, and you need to speak some Hungarian to punt there, as many girls on Roszlanyok just hang up when you speak english, and some of the girls who do speak english are tourist hustlers who will quote you high prices in Euros, tell you on the phone the service is for a hour, then once cash handed over it magically becomes a 10 minute service.

Maybe you had a better experience than me GSpotter, would you care to post your experiences in Budapest here? 

I had 3 punts in Budapest and two of the girls spoke good English. The third didn't but the service from all three was good.

I used a couple of Hungarian websites and Google translate to find the girls. It was a year ago and I can't remember which website I used but the profiles indicated whether they spoke English or not. One tip in a foreign country is to avoid websites in English that are catering for tourists and seek out the local ones. No different than the UK, tourists might Google 'escort London' and find the higher end agencies rather than be aware of aw. And just like the UK, many countries have their equivalent of ukp which is worth seeking out for unbiased information.
After making my choices, I contacted them through a mix of texts and calling. This depends on the country, in Budapest they prefer you to call and talk to you before deciding whether to accept. The ones I saw were all local girls working out of their apartments in residential areas rather than the city centre.

I haven't been in Bucharest for 5 years so I can't comment on whether things have changed. Back then, there were plenty of WGs at very reasonable prices and lots of parlours offering massage and extra services.

[Jerboa]

I had 3 punts in Budapest and two of the girls spoke good English. The third didn't but the service from all three was good.

I used a couple of Hungarian websites and Google translate to find the girls. It was a year ago and I can't remember which website I used but the profiles indicated whether they spoke English or not. One tip in a foreign country is to avoid websites in English that are catering for tourists and seek out the local ones. No different than the UK, tourists might Google 'escort London' and find the higher end agencies rather than be aware of aw. And just like the UK, many countries have their equivalent of ukp which is worth seeking out for unbiased information.
After making my choices, I contacted them through a mix of texts and calling. This depends on the country, in Budapest they prefer you to call and talk to you before deciding whether to accept. The ones I saw were all local girls working out of their apartments in residential areas rather than the city centre.

I haven't been in Bucharest for 5 years so I can't comment on whether things have changed. Back then, there were plenty of WGs at very reasonable prices and lots of parlours offering massage and extra services.

Ok glad you had three good punts, yes I did my research and used the equivalent of AW Rosslanyok, but I found from ringing numerous ladies with a Hungarian SIM, as soon as I asked if they spoke English, they hung up, maybe Hungarians hate English, in most other punting countries ladies at least attempt to communicate.
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[FkkSaunaClubsBlog]

I have stayed in a private room in a hostel. But it is still around EUR 50 in NRW area. In Berlin could as low as EUR 40.

And even lower, private room in Sleep Cheap Hostel was only €31 and not far from Artemis.

[Gspotter]

And even lower, private room in Sleep Cheap Hostel was only €31 and not far from Artemis.

That puts the difference between East and West in perspective. In Budapest and Bucharest i was staying at really nice 4* hotels in the city centre for about £50.

[adindas]

And even lower, private room in Sleep Cheap Hostel was only €31 and not far from Artemis.

I just check the Sleep Cheap Hostel over a week time span. Indeed it varies from £32.20 to £38.64.
However their room is 4 beds private room. This sort of room is intended for a group of 4 people wanting to stick together in one room, not really designed for a single traveller.

Of course a single traveller could still book it but not worthy. You avoid this sort of room as you pay a single private room in a hostel, but the environment / decoration in the room is not for a single room, you will still see bunks of 4 sets single beds or two double decks beds. The only different is you are the only occupant in the room. To make your money worthy you will be looking for a private room similar to the room in a hotel, e.g with single or double beds.

If you look at Trivago, Booking.com, hotel.de you sometimes could still find a pension for EUR30 pn, but you have got to be lucky to get it as it is not necessary fits to the dates you are staying in Berlin.

[bigpoppapomp]

Cheers for the suggestions, in the end I have settled for a trip to Budapest on my own as well as a lads trip to Prague where I will try to sneak off for a punt on the quiet.

Can speak some Hungarian so punting won't be a problem in that respect.

[Jerboa]

Cheers for the suggestions, in the end I have settled for a trip to Budapest on my own as well as a lads trip to Prague where I will try to sneak off for a punt on the quiet.

Can speak some Hungarian so punting won't be a problem in that respect.

Well if you speak some Hungarian would be interesting to hear how you get on, when you going?

[Steve2]

And even lower, private room in Sleep Cheap Hostel was only €31 and not far from Artemis.

Why even stay in a hostel when you can get a 3 * hotel on Kurfustendamm for £34/night

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[bigpoppapomp]

Well if you speak some Hungarian would be interesting to hear how you get on, when you going?

Will definitely report with links, Prague is October and Budapest is Novemeber