Natalya_ Bayswater

[WAP]

See, it's already begun. You are now fighting a battle for her and she did not even have to say a word. All she did was fuck you good. My issue is not punters reviewing her.  I have not said anything about a punter getting a neg experience and still rating it positive. My issue is her telling punters to review her. That leads to punters not reviewing for the benefit of punters but for the sole benefit of the WG with perhaps them going into the WGs good books. How can you trust a review of a WG that is known to tell punters to review her? Odds are the punter is not going to review her unfavourably, what if she promises extras for review? An unsupecting punter will not know this. You may be transparent enough to admit to her telling punters to review but do you reckon every other punter is transparent in why they review or what took place?

There are plenty of WGs that have many positive reviews and are "forum darlings", I have no issue with them. My issue is that she seems to be trying to force it by telling punters to review her. It's not solely about her, it's the bigger picture of if multiple WGs take her approach then the reviews will lose credibility in the long run. Everything will become smoke and mirrors. If she is a good provider that is fine, her telling punters to review her on here is an issue. She has no business trying to use the site to her benefit, she is not a punter. This is the insidious infiltration I am talking about.

When I write a review I assume that she’s going to read it anyway. Reviews here aren’t for the benefit of SPs they are for the benefit of punters. An SP might ask me to review her but it won’t influence me. It’s a business transaction. Cash for sexual pleasure and company. If an escort is a positive then she gets a positive and there’s no incentive she can offer me to improve upon that. If an escort is a negative she’s a negative and there’s no incentive that she can possibly offer me either. In other words it’s all about the service that she offers me. Reviews here seem consistently good and I’d like to sample her wares.

Tr eat her well Lads

[WAP]

 
She monitors the forum
 
If a punter wants to see her again it will influence what he writes in the review

Which is why I generally take care not to have my reviews traced by an SP. I change my number every month. One of the costs is that my fellow punters generally don’t see a recent review from me. I made an exception recently for an escort that was only staying in UK for a month.

[Payyourwaymate]

Totally disagree with this but you're entitled to your opinion - because that's all it is - opinion as you've not seen her.

I'm going by fact.

I know I wrote my review like I have done all my others before her, and like all the others I will do after her, for my own benefit and for the benefit of the punters of this forum - You can challenge that all you wish to.

I've read some of your reviews. I have no issues with them. However, you think your profession of your adoration for this WG in the review that you wrote was of benefit to the members of this site? You've got me scratching my head now, that review was the most fluffy review I have ever seen you write.

You're missing my point, I never said she was a bad provider. I think it's fine if she is a good provider. My issue is her trying to build influence with of members of this site and the site in general indirectly.

[WAP]

(Joke Review)

Wow! Just WOW! Best punt ever! I met Natalya and she’s the most beautiful woman I’ve seen! She told me that I’m really handsome. I took a shower and came out and asked her for a towel. She said that her washing machine was broken and gave me a towel that smelt a bit like oyster. I think it might have been from cooking Chinese food. What happened in the room is private but I can say that told me that small is beautiful and that my dick is actually the perfect match for her and that she loves me and I think that I love her too! We didn’t actually have sex or even kiss because we agreed that we should both wait until the time is right and get to know each other better as our connnection is really deep it’s like a meeting of two souls and so we spent the hour talking and cuddling instead. She told me that I’m her twin soul. She’s so intelligent and speaks English and Mandarin! She’s agreed to be my girlfriend but her mum has cancer in Russia and health care must be paid for privately and she’s doing this job just to pay for her treatment. I’ve agreed to visit her once a week at least and pay her something extra to cover the cost of her mums medicine! I can’t wait to see her again! Treat her well. She’s really special.  ❤️💖💕♥️

[Alburn]

Recently saw Natalya at the Bayswater hotel. I’ll put up a proper review soon but wanted to say that I understand why some are so smitten with her. She’s good looking, but not amazing. Her lips are pumped up too big and don’t look great. She does a great OWO but sex was a bit passive. And she clearly likes to waste a lot of time talking about her Mandarin skills. Overall a nice person but not worth the £250/hour.

[asianguy251]

Recently saw Natalya at the Bayswater hotel. I’ll put up a proper review soon but wanted to say that I understand why some are so smitten with her. She’s good looking, but not amazing. Her lips are pumped up too big and don’t look great. She does a great OWO but sex was a bit passive. And she clearly likes to waste a lot of time talking about her Mandarin skills. Overall a nice person but not worth the £250/hour.

Like I said before she is very good looking (but there are much better looking girls) and  very passionate and got this ability to make you believe she likes you.  It does not surprise me that many punters like Nuru guru think they're in love with her.

[NuruGuru]

Like I said before she is very good looking (but there are much better looking girls) and  very passionate and got this ability to make you believe she likes you.  It does not surprise me that many punters like Nuru guru think they're in love with her.

Who are you to assume I think I'm "in love" with her?

I just think she's a good SP - and one of the better ones I've seen in the years of doing this.

Reason why I felt I got my VFM is because I overstayed 4 hours with her. Wasn't charged a penny extra.

When you meet and SP and overstay that long, I think it's good service and a positive attitude towards her job.

[asianguy251]

Who are you to assume I think I'm "in love" with her?

I just think she's a good SP - and one of the better ones I've seen in the years of doing this.

Reason why I felt I got my VFM is because I overstayed 4 hours with her. Wasn't charged a penny extra.

When you meet and SP and overstay that long, I think it's good service and a positive attitude towards her job.

I'm sorry I was just making fun of the situation.  That is a pretty long overstay.

[NuruGuru]

That is a pretty long overstay.

Yes. So you can understand why I feel my VFM is something I've considered really good compared to the many I've had over the years.

[Payyourwaymate]

Who are you to assume I think I'm "in love" with her?

I just think she's a good SP - and one of the better ones I've seen in the years of doing this.

Reason why I felt I got my VFM is because I overstayed 4 hours with her. Wasn't charged a penny extra.

When you meet and SP and overstay that long, I think it's good service and a positive attitude towards her job.

4 hours? That was never mentioned in your review. See, this is why you should not fight WGs battles.Now people will see her will expect that. Others will wonder what else is going on glowing reviews are being written that is not being mentioned. This WG is a member of this site right? Perhaps she can shed light herself instead of watching all the potential infighting amongst members. I don't really want to see you fighting on her behalf so much,  you're better than this.

[NuruGuru]

4 hours? That was never mentioned in your review. See, this is why you should not fight WGs battles.Now people will see her will expect that. Others will wonder what else is going on glowing reviews are being written that is not being mentioned. This WG is a member of this site right? Perhaps she can shed light herself instead of watching all the potential infighting amongst members. I don't really want to see you fighting on her behalf so much,  you're better than this.

I didn't want to mention it, but when I start getting accused of being fluffy or writing "love letters" then of course I'm going to defend my words.

I mentioned in my review that I overstayed a considerable amount of time - although I didn't feel the need to justify the length.

I've reviewed many on here a lot over the years - with no disputes and reviews have always been credible and backed up by others.

I don't want my integrity of reviews questioned further - I have no reason to lie or tout an SP.

My review of this particular one, is because I think (for me) she well way above and beyond (and if she could do that with me, she's very likely to be great for other customers too!)

I'm sure she's free to comment as she pleases. I'm going to end my contrib to this thread here as I've not really got much to add to it at this point.

As OP said, treat her well 

[LLPunting]

Totally disagree with this but you're entitled to your opinion - because that's all it is - opinion as you've not seen her.

I'm going by fact.

I know I wrote my review like I have done all my others before her, and like all the others I will do after her, for my own benefit and for the benefit of the punters of this forum - You can challenge that all you wish t

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NG why are you being overly defensive about your review?  The "truths" of the SP's reviews are not the only thing in question.  Here're some facts for you:
- Of all the positives you've dropped in 2 years the one you dropped for this SP was within a week, not the couple or several or months for the others, one of which was for a regular you valued.  You changed your MO for her.
- She was first mentioned here Sept 22 a week after she dropped anchor.  You, yourself, thought she had been poorly reviewed previously but never linked them under whichever AW ID they may've been and sadly no further mention in your review, so we're none the wiser to that truth.
- Apparently she's also on SA.
- JS was the first review more than a month after she'd been trading her "excellence that won't go unsung".
- in the next 2 weeks a couple more reviews and JS saw her again and she mentioned UKPers calling and visiting, all revealing UKP 
- Suddenly a clamour, some trusted sources but also a number of rarely voiced opinions.
- Still no review from KT, did JS spot him in the lobby?

So whilst the reviews for this SP may well be "honest" many have materialised much sooner after visits unlike so many reviewer MOs about waiting weeks and months or never to protect their anonymity.  So why change their behaviours now?  Why this SP?  Why is this SP, who will surely id every single reviewer (regardless if they change their number) so trustworthy?  She likely also knows about CE, perhaps from the blabbing of a simp UKPer.

We are questioning motivation.  All power to the girl if she's twisted so many (not all) around her finger, let's all hope that whatever she's doing for them she's offering to everyone for however long she can keep it up.  That's exactly what she's hoping we'll believe to keep her paying cock-traffic high.  All power to the punters who can continue to enjoy the web she's weaved.

We all know that there are UKPers vocal and silent who harass SPs about reviews, bargaining for services, threatening negs and whatever other means they employ to try to secure what they want from an SP.  When you mix this with this SP's practices it becomes murkier still.  Perhaps she's hedged against trolling by recruiting so many knights, perhaps she silences all her would be naysayers (truth-tellers included) with the risk of them being unmasked here or elsewhere with truths or lies.

Whilst this kind of risk for us exists with any SP, the fact she's manipulating her reputation on here means she's a greater risk.  Look at the chap who complained about being screened because of his nationality.  He may well enjoy a fabulous time with her but will he only get her "standard" winning service or will she pull out a few more stops?  How "free" is he to make his review if she knows what he looks like and perhaps gleans other detail about him?   She will know who "he" is; the punting number he was using, what he looks like, perhaps his AWID and his UKP id.

Ultimately if she's a genuine trooper then we all win in the short term but PYWM's points are all VERY valid and a cautionary reminder that UKP continues to be exploited and undermined which is not a win for those here collaborating for our independent benefit.

Edit for most recent posts:
4 hour overstay - watch out for EAS.
We aren't having a pop at you but you are very much taking it that way.  Which isn't a good sign.[/list]

[JackSaint]

I was the third reviewer, called it like I found it, as usual, she was outstanding, I've been back since and the reviews on here certainly gave her traction. I hadn't mentioned UKP or the fact I would review her, the result of my review were discussed on the second visit when she told me there had been a lot of UKP members who mentioned it, and she then started monitoring the forum.

I saw an Indian guy in the lobby, was messing around asking if it was KT.

Her AW reviews have built very steadily, we all know how valid they can be but her UKP ones are consistently good, imo she is a genuine good SP.

NG was perhaps misguided to mention a 4 hour overstay, some things should remain in the room and it's surprising because although I've never been rushed out she is certainly a busy girl, I punt during the day, maybe he was last of the night.

Maybe we are over analysing the whole situation.

[Benroberts35]

Hi everyone, Natalya here, I didn’t intend to post at all and don’t expect to become embroiled in any controversy but thought it was time to express myself.
First of all I would like to say that nobody should be skeptical about my positive reviews because I love what I do and always put passion in my job with every client, I’m always trying to give the best service possible for everyone. And yes I do monitor the forum because I know that a lot of punters are aware of it and it really has an impact on the business.
Second of all, about the 4h overstay, yes that’s true. He was my last booking of the day and we got on so well that we kept talking and time flew. That’s the case in those circumstances with others too if I have a very good connection and I feel comfortable with the person. Again, I love what I do and I like spending time with nice people so when I meet someone I get along very well with (assuming I have no bookings afterwards), yes I forget about time.

[Geko12]

The review NG left was fluffy AF but i can understand why hes so defensive and fluffy, he overstayed for 4 hours which is unusual, who knows what they did, so who can really blame him, just because he stayed for that long doesnt mean everyone will and everyone shouldnt be in a rush to book her because i highly doubt she will let everyone stay for that long. 250 GBP is a lot of money, but if she makes you believe she is your girlfriend like what she has done to a few punters, then go for it.

[LLPunting]

I was the third reviewer, called it like I found it, as usual, she was outstanding, I've been back since and the reviews on here certainly gave her traction. I hadn't mentioned UKP or the fact I would review her, the result of my review were discussed on the second visit when she told me there had been a lot of UKP members who mentioned it, and she then started monitoring the forum.

I saw an Indian guy in the lobby, was messing around asking if it was KT.

Her AW reviews have built very steadily, we all know how valid they can be but her UKP ones are consistently good, imo she is a genuine good SP.

NG was perhaps misguided to mention a 4 hour overstay, some things should remain in the room and it's surprising because although I've never been rushed out she is certainly a busy girl, I punt during the day, maybe he was last of the night.

Maybe we are over analysing the whole situation.

Thanks JS, check the dates, despite UKP listing it third you have the earliest posting date, unless I'm going totally mad.  I just checked again.   

I was also ribbing KT but given his interest and expected enthusiasm I am surprised our KourosMan hasn't posted his emojis yet.

[JackSaint]

Thanks JS, check the dates, despite UKP listing it third you have the earliest posting date, unless I'm going totally mad.  I just checked again.   

I was also ribbing KT but given his interest and expected enthusiasm I am surprised our KourosMan hasn't posted his emojis yet.

Aha, I see, thanks, the bloke in reception didn't reek of cheap cologne so can't have been our king of the jungle 

[Geko12]

And yes I do monitor the forum because I know that a lot of punters are aware of it and it really has an impact on the business.


Thanks for your comment Natalya. When such instances occur and when a escort and a punter get along, we often forget (myself included), that this is a business transaction, your here to make money and were here to fulfil our sexual desires, end of the day it is a service/ business transaction, nothing more. In turn this can make us write love letters/ fluffy reviews.

[asianguy251]

And yes I do monitor the forum because I know that a lot of punters are aware of it and it really has an impact on the business.


Thanks for your comment Natalya. When such instances occur and when a escort and a punter get along, we often forget (myself included), that this is a business transaction, your here to make money and were here to fulfil our sexual desires, end of the day it is a service/ business transaction, nothing more. In turn this can make us write love letters/ fluffy reviews.

Yes it can. I'm sure Natalya appreciates NuruGuru's beautifully poetic review.

[LLPunting]

Hi everyone, Natalya here, I didn’t intend to post at all and don’t expect to become embroiled in any controversy but thought it was time to express myself.
First of all I would like to say that nobody should be skeptical about my positive reviews because I love what I do and always put passion in my job with every client, I’m always trying to give the best service possible for everyone. And yes I do monitor the forum because I know that a lot of punters are aware of it and it really has an impact on the business.
Second of all, about the 4h overstay, yes that’s true. He was my last booking of the day and we got on so well that we kept talking and time flew. That’s the case in those circumstances with others too if I have a very good connection and I feel comfortable with the person. Again, I love what I do and I like spending time with nice people so when I meet someone I get along very well with (assuming I have no bookings afterwards), yes I forget about time.

Welcome.

Do you scan UKP between punts or are you being notified by punters? 

Hopefully you will post more often with viewpoints on topics rather than in defence of your reviews and with less thinly-veiled self-promotion.   Please don't ask for reviews, let your performance speak for itself through those punters who choose to review without prompting or promise of reward.
If we can trust you to focus on delivering a great experience within the bounds of a booking, regardless of race, colour or creed, then you'll have to trust that your continued, consistent performance will be reviewed as time passes.

GL 

[LLPunting]

And yes I do monitor the forum because I know that a lot of punters are aware of it and it really has an impact on the business.


Thanks for your comment Natalya. When such instances occur and when a escort and a punter get along, we often forget (myself included), that this is a business transaction, your here to make money and were here to fulfil our sexual desires, end of the day it is a service/ business transaction, nothing more. In turn this can make us write love letters/ fluffy reviews.

How I'd love to have been on here so many years earlier and for my darlings of yesteryear to come on here gushing about how they'd cooked for me, sang to me, talked of dreams and philosophy and come running to me after every shift for free, unbridled, tender, honest lovemaking in a bubble of humanity before returning to their working beds the next day.

If only there were a good-natured punter review site for the ladies to post discrete reminiscences?
- NG, a surprisingly spry and bendy elder gent, loving, respectful and has a good line on French cheeses. 
- JS, those tattoos, that body, what he can do with 2 chairs, va-va-voom! 
- LLP, was expecting someone taller and better looking but all that typing has given him great finger endurance.

[Geko12]

Recently saw Natalya at the Bayswater hotel. I’ll put up a proper review soon but wanted to say that I understand why some are so smitten with her. She’s good looking, but not amazing. Her lips are pumped up too big and don’t look great. She does a great OWO but sex was a bit passive. And she clearly likes to waste a lot of time talking about her Mandarin skills. Overall a nice person but not worth the £250/hour.

Will be an interesting review, 250ph to discuss mandarin  , should have talked about it after your booking 

[asianguy251]

Will be an interesting review, 250ph to discuss mandarin  , should have talked about it after your booking 

That's a good tip. Leave all the chit chat until the action is over.  You might have another 4 hours to discuss things.

[Payyourwaymate]

Welcome.

Do you scan UKP between punts or are you being notified by punters? 

Hopefully you will post more often with viewpoints on topics rather than in defence of your reviews and with less thinly-veiled self-promotion.   Please don't ask for reviews, let your performance speak for itself through those punters who choose to review without prompting or promise of reward.
If we can trust you to focus on delivering a great experience within the bounds of a booking, regardless of race, colour or creed, then you'll have to trust that your continued, consistent performance will be reviewed as time passes.

GL 

You worded that in a much nicer tone than what I was going to say. I'll keep my words to myself  .