Cost of punting increasing... justified or not?

[Slaveofnature]

Dear Estella/Diana,
It is clear from your current marketing/offering that you are a niche SP playing to the "courtesan" fanciers with perhaps some other kinks in the mix.  Sadly, unless you've been seen under any different profiles or monikers, we only have 3 2018 reviews to "know" your past performance and services by when you were a 100ph girl.
As you well know there are hundreds and thousands of SPs doing business in London and country-wide (well) below your hourly price point, countless many out of this crowd have been found and reported here as being good performers (if not exceptional) demonstrating commitment, consistency, engagement, skill and enthusiasm.  They come from all walks of the trade with all kinds of looks and many do well enough to buy a home (or more than one), pay for schooling and studies, raise kids, buy cars, afford luxury clothes and goods, etc.

Your dismissal of the expectation at my arbitrary 100 ph price point speaks to your own (increased since 2018) sense of worth and contempt for us punters who have to earn the money conventionally.   Many (perhaps most) of us here have to work 3+ hours for our hour of indulgence at 100, your fee puts us out for a day's graft before tax.

Of course you're free to (claim to) spend as much as you wish on the paraphernalia of your style of trade but it is not necessary to earn a very good living and achieve many things that many of us are still struggling to manage with our real life commitments and punting desires.

Your choice of living and working in different cities is not a necessity, it's a business and market driven choice.  How many of your clients would stop seeing you if you didn't wear the fine lingerie you're splashing out on (and perhaps they are too both fiscally and fluidly)?  It seems odd that you spend so much on everything except drinks, is the expectation that your clients would also furnish the fine libations?

Excellent post. Would be good if there was an uptick option.  You'd be getting one from me.

[alabama1]

In my experience, the biggest turn on / adrenalin  rush for them is when you hand them the fee.

[JontyR]

Not your experience though is it. That's your perception. Or experience by proxy.

[alabama1]

That is what they have told me in person, face to face 

[Stevelondon]

In my experience, the biggest turn on / adrenalin  rush for them is when you hand them the fee.

Yes I too have experienced a SP who has began shaking and moaning uncontrollably when I’ve put £150 in her hand. 

[Stevelondon]

You are showing a total lack of understanding of the way women think, the sexier they feel in themselves the sexier they will be with you, hence them buying lingerie they feel best in.

Absolutely spot on. In civvie street it’s the same.
Happy wife, happy life.

[expeller]

Just my two cents, hope you don't mind... 
I work in London but live in Manchester.

So, I charge £250 per hour- this is what I need to spend before I see anyone to be presentable, give you a great time ect

£800 rent per week in zone 1
£200 train fare per month
£400 advertising per month
£400-£600 per lingerie set (Bordelle/ Birdette ect)
£250 per month make up, nails, waxing, hair
£70 Wine, champagne, beer for clients
Plus £600 a month for my bills in Manchester

I know its slightly different for me because I travel down from the North but escorting for *escorts themselves* is expensive. I could spend a lot less but you would be in a crumbier apartment, I'd be in bog standard lingerie with crappy Aliexpress sex toys and the service would be meh.

Plus- CORONOAVIRUS  As an escort I am taking a HUGE risk by working. I know that you are too, but you don't *have* to see escorts, many escorts have had to keep working despite the risks because a year without an income is impossible. I'm sorry to butt in, I just wanted to give you my viewpoint.

Happy punting 

Diana Bentham xx

That said Estella/Diana is also advertising on Ace Massage at  £180 an hour External Link/Members Only

[mills_and_bhuna]

Excellent post. Would be good if there was an uptick option.  You'd be getting one from me.

just goes to show.
Different strokes.
I thought it was poorly thought out.
An attempt at explaining the economics of prostitution by someone who has never been a prostitute.
I thought Dr. Freeman's reply summed up perfectly the holes in his argument.

[LLPunting]

just goes to show.
Different strokes.
I thought it was poorly thought out.
An attempt at explaining the economics of prostitution by someone who has never been a prostitute.
I thought Dr. Freeman's reply summed up perfectly the holes in his argument.

You clearly didn't understand the argument and the point of this thread.  I was interpreting her "economics" of her version of trade vis-a-vis the many service providers reviewed and discussed on UKP at a lower price point whom many of us have gained some insight into their prospering despite their less grand accoutrements. 

[Payyourwaymate]

Absolutely spot on. In civvie street it’s the same.
Happy wife, happy life.

You subscribe to that mantra? It will only lead to a life of misery and maybe an early death.

[mills_and_bhuna]

You clearly didn't understand the argument and the point of this thread.  I was interpreting her "economics" of her version of trade vis-a-vis the many service providers reviewed and discussed on UKP at a lower price point whom many of us have gained some insight into their prospering despite their less grand accoutrements.

stop being a condescending asshat.
I'm quite capable of understanding English.
If you had made it a humorous general open letter I wouldn't have bothered commenting.
As it was it was targeted at a specific post by a specific poster.
If you were telling me how to run my business and pointing to other similar businesses I'd be inclined to laugh at your presumptuousness.
All she did was lay out her expenses necessary to do business as she likes to conduct it.
And provided she gives a good service and her clients are happy who am I to judge?

[Cryton123]

The amount you pay is governed by whether you want your dick, or your ego, massaged.

I think that’s the key to all this disagreement. The fragile male ego.

Reading through these comments, certain punters sound like they’re speaking with damaged egos. They’re being forced to pay for sex, so they become bitter towards the escorts charging them.  I doubt they realise it but having to pay to fuck hot women (as most of us have to do) hurts their male pride 

[JontyR]

That is what they have told me in person, face to face 

And, pray, how many have said this? And how did it come up? I have never encountered such a conversation in three separate punting lives.

If you ask...does getting paid turn you on...then you may well get the answer you want to hear. That's what you get for your money.

[luv2kiss54]

Its a seller's market for sure and has been for a while, escorts know they can ask these ridiculous rates and there are certainly enough punters who pay it. im fast being priced out of the game as i tend to equate the fee to my own earnings. For me to pay a days wages for half hour of action is not going to happen, i just wouldn't enjoy it knowing how hard i have to work for my money. Even though i have a nice bundle saved during lockdown i dont feel the urge to pay over the odds and will stick to my limits. The Diane/Estelle rates are a different world and i cant personally understand why anyone would pay those rates even for a one off, absolutely crazy, but good luck to her if it works for her and her rich guests.

[Estella]

Dear Estella/Diana,
It is clear from your current marketing/offering that you are a niche SP playing to the "courtesan" fanciers with perhaps some other kinks in the mix.  Sadly, unless you've been seen under any different profiles or monikers, we only have 3 2018 reviews to "know" your past performance and services by when you were a 100ph girl.
As you well know there are hundreds and thousands of SPs doing business in London and country-wide (well) below your hourly price point, countless many out of this crowd have been found and reported here as being good performers (if not exceptional) demonstrating commitment, consistency, engagement, skill and enthusiasm.  They come from all walks of the trade with all kinds of looks and many do well enough to buy a home (or more than one), pay for schooling and studies, raise kids, buy cars, afford luxury clothes and goods, etc.

Your dismissal of the expectation at my arbitrary 100 ph price point speaks to your own (increased since 2018) sense of worth and contempt for us punters who have to earn the money conventionally.   Many (perhaps most) of us here have to work 3+ hours for our hour of indulgence at 100, your fee puts us out for a day's graft before tax.

Of course you're free to (claim to) spend as much as you wish on the paraphernalia of your style of trade but it is not necessary to earn a very good living and achieve many things that many of us are still struggling to manage with our real life commitments and punting desires.

Your choice of living and working in different cities is not a necessity, it's a business and market driven choice.  How many of your clients would stop seeing you if you didn't wear the fine lingerie you're splashing out on (and perhaps they are too both fiscally and fluidly)?  It seems odd that you spend so much on everything except drinks, is the expectation that your clients would also furnish the fine libations?

This may shock you but a lot clients turn up with a bottle of wine or champagne of their own volition. I know, it's batshit CRAZY! He must be a simp or a beta or an idiot, right? I mean what kind of man wants to treat the woman he's about to fuck to a present?

God knows what you'll say when you find out that some clients.. are you ready for it ... TIP ME! I can't quite believe it myself!

Or that when I couldn't work for 6 months because of Covid my loyal regulars messaged me saying they knew how hard it was and put money into my bank account as a gift for bills and petrol.

Why?

Because they're good men. They're decent, caring punters who don't give a crap about what's 'beta' or 'alpha'. They see me as a person and not just a fuck.

The men on here who talk about escorts like they're a piece of crap presume that *every* punter treats escorts like crap.

THEY DON'T.

YOU ARE THE MINORITY.

You bully other punters on this forum into feeling like inferior or lesser men. You swing your dick on this forum like you own it, poking fun at other members, belittling them, making passive aggressive remarks -  because you're *embarrassed * that there are real men who actually know how to treat a woman.

And TRUST ME, when a client makes the effort and treats me with respect I will suck his cock 10 times harder than for an arrogant man like you EVERY SINGLE TIME.

[Bonker]

40-15

[Payyourwaymate]

This may shock you but a lot clients turn up with a bottle of wine or champagne of their own volition. I know, it's batshit CRAZY! He must be a simp or a beta or an idiot, right? I mean what kind of man wants to treat the woman he's about to fuck to a present?

God knows what you'll say when you find out that some clients.. are you ready for it ... TIP ME! I can't quite believe it myself!

Or that when I couldn't work for 6 months because of Covid my loyal regulars messaged me saying they knew how hard it was and put money into my bank account as a gift for bills and petrol.

Why?

Because they're good men. They're decent, caring punters who don't give a crap about what's 'beta' or 'alpha'. They see me as a person and not just a fuck.

The men on here who talk about escorts like they're a piece of crap presume that *every* punter treats escorts like crap.

THEY DON'T.

YOU ARE THE MINORITY.

You bully other punters on this forum into feeling like inferior or lesser men. You swing your dick on this forum like you own it, poking fun at other members, belittling them, making passive aggressive remarks -  because you're *embarrassed * that there are real men who actually know how to treat a woman.

And TRUST ME, when a client makes the effort and treats me with respect I will suck his cock 10 times harder than for an arrogant man like you EVERY SINGLE TIME.

What on earth are you on about?

You are not a man, how do you know what makes a man? Fucking hell  .

I did not have a problem with your previous posts but save that bullshit somewhere else please.

[daviemac]

This may shock you

This may shock you but we have rules on here and they are strictly enforced. One of those rules refers to service providers and the conditions of their membership.

Escorts who put forward a reasoned rebuttal or point of view get to stay, those, like yourself, who rant about punters get banned.

2 Service Providers
This site allows service providers to be members, but zero-tolerance for touting, flirting, attention-seeking and negative attitude towards punters. Service providers must respect the ethos of the site. This site is not a chat platform between clients and service providers, nor is it a support site for service providers. All service providers / non-punters must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=252680.0

[LLPunting]

This may shock you but a lot clients turn up with a bottle of wine or champagne of their own volition. I know, it's batshit CRAZY! He must be a simp or a beta or an idiot, right? I mean what kind of man wants to treat the woman he's about to fuck to a present?

God knows what you'll say when you find out that some clients.. are you ready for it ... TIP ME! I can't quite believe it myself!

Or that when I couldn't work for 6 months because of Covid my loyal regulars messaged me saying they knew how hard it was and put money into my bank account as a gift for bills and petrol.

Why?

Because they're good men. They're decent, caring punters who don't give a crap about what's 'beta' or 'alpha'. They see me as a person and not just a fuck.

The men on here who talk about escorts like they're a piece of crap presume that *every* punter treats escorts like crap.

THEY DON'T.

YOU ARE THE MINORITY.

You bully other punters on this forum into feeling like inferior or lesser men. You swing your dick on this forum like you own it, poking fun at other members, belittling them, making passive aggressive remarks -  because you're *embarrassed * that there are real men who actually know how to treat a woman.

And TRUST ME, when a client makes the effort and treats me with respect I will suck his cock 10 times harder than for an arrogant man like you EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Dear Estella,
What you're describing has nothing to do with rewarding the compassion or caring of a man, it has EVERYTHING to do with what you will do when a man spends more on you than you ask, which is already high for many men on this London forum (and perhaps elsewhere) who describe their encounters here.  Your values may well be tuned to the higher net worth individuals in the punting community but think on this, they are still punters paying women for sex, regardless if they're nice about it or not.  If you were a mistress, "kept woman" or "other woman" you wouldn't be here.  Now if any of us were dating you and happened to shower you with affection, caring and love what would you say then, how would your lover be a lesser or better men than the ones you charge for sex, how would he not be due at least the same sexual prowess and performance that your bestow on paying customers?

P.S.  Not everyone who punts drinks alcohol.  Not everyone enjoys haute cuisine.  Not everyone thinks spending twice as much on some pretty frillies than they are on the lady who's about to wear them is a great way to have a sexy time or in your case tipping more to ensure a good service.   

[Estella]

"Not everyone thinks spending twice as much on some pretty frillies than they are on the lady who's about to wear them"

You don't need to ban me.


I'm well and truly done

[Ali Katt]

£75 in 2000 would be equivalent of around £125 nowadays based on historic rate of inflation. Add to that the internet was in its infancy in 2000 so less access to the market for both providers and customers and I’d say prices are probably about equivalent to then. Yes, easier access to internet for providers could mean more WG’s so costs should lower, but due to sites like this, punters are more aware and demanding and therefore quality of providers should have improved.

I wasn’t punting back then, so this is purely based on how I would view any business market over that timescale.

This. In 2000 minimum wage was around £3-4, now it is around £9. It does *feel* like you are paying more and getting less for everyday items though: clothing, food, toiletries. The only thing which seems drastically cheaper is entry level technology, now you can buy an entry level laptop for around £300 new, back in 2000 you were looking at £1200-£1500.

[Ali Katt]

I personally don't drink alcohol with escorts. I don't think I ever have and never will. Nothing against any one who does, I just have a better time if I am sober, based on civvy interactions.

[daviemac]

The very best escorts don't want or need to be bribed with tips and gifts in order for them to provide a good service, they do so for all their clients for the fee they charge.

[alabama1]

"Not everyone thinks spending twice as much on some pretty frillies than they are on the lady who's about to wear them"

You don't need to ban me.


I'm well and truly done

Now you know how we feel 

[DrGFreeman]

This may shock you but a lot clients turn up with a bottle of wine or champagne of their own volition. I know, it's batshit CRAZY! He must be a simp or a beta or an idiot, right? I mean what kind of man wants to treat the woman he's about to fuck to a present?
God knows what you'll say when you find out that some clients.. are you ready for it ... TIP ME! I can't quite believe it myself!
Or that when I couldn't work for 6 months because of Covid my loyal regulars messaged me saying they knew how hard it was and put money into my bank account as a gift for bills and petrol.
..
And TRUST ME, when a client makes the effort and treats me with respect I will suck his cock 10 times harder than for an arrogant man like you EVERY SINGLE TIME.

so a 'real man' is a punter to turns up with champagne, tips and gives you extra cash ?
your worth as a person is not determined by how much money people give you

[Payyourwaymate]

so a 'real man' is a punter to turns up with champagne, tips and gives you extra cash ?
your worth as a person is not determined by how much money people give you

It seems in her head a REAL man is one which puts her in a beneficial situation and men that act as caring atm dispensers. She claims she'll suck such a mans dick 10 times harder. How will we measure this?  . She does not seem to be all there...I hope she uses her earnings to pay for some therapy to heal, you know...from the arrogant men that she seems to despise on this forum that she chose to join.

[Barnaby Bear]

Justification... it's an interesting concept.

It works both ways.  Some of the service providers provide a very high end service (or at least what is marketted as a high end service).  It's a businesss model that requires investment and a return on that investment is naturally expected.  Nice things costs money and the client will have to pay for that if they want to engage with the service provider on those terms.  Therefore the high price point is fully justified.  It has to be, these service providers are not running a charity.  A profit is not only expected but demanded.

Conversely of course, the client may not care one jot for "high end services" - ultimately it's paid for sex at the end, dress it up which ever way you like, at its most base level the net result with some £40 burned out broken hooker is exactly the same as it would be with an £1k per night 'courtesan'.  To that end a higher price point may not be justified at all.

It's a simple case of supply and demand.  If the service provider charges too a high a fee, then they will not get much business.  If the client is unwilling to pay a higher fee, then he will have to suffice with the Tesco Value range of service providers.  It is fully justified both ways to my mind.

[Payyourwaymate]

Justification... it's an interesting concept.

It works both ways.  Some of the service providers provide a very high end service (or at least what is marketted as a high end service).  It's a businesss model that requires investment and a return on that investment is naturally expected.  Nice things costs money and the client will have to pay for that if they want to engage with the service provider on those terms.  Therefore the high price point is fully justified.  It has to be, these service providers are not running a charity.  A profit is not only expected but demanded.

Conversely of course, the client may not care one jot for "high end services" - ultimately it's paid for sex at the end, dress it up which ever way you like, at its most base level the net result with some £40 burned out broken hooker is exactly the same as it would be with an £1k per night 'courtesan'.  To that end a higher price point may not be justified at all.

It's a simple case of supply and demand.  If the service provider charges too a high a fee, then they will not get much business.  If the client is unwilling to pay a higher fee, then he will have to suffice with the Tesco Value range of service providers.  It is fully justified both ways to my mind.

Not sure how it can be justified when there are plenty of reviews on this site where people paid a lot of money and got shit in return and people that paid small amounts and felt satisfied. The evidence alone provided in the review sections breaks down your whole argument. The average price for indie WGs has gone towards £200 and upwards for the hour with extras and still the service which is not up to par. What is the difference now between overcharging brits and P&D providers? The living quarters where they work? The fact that they may have a better command of english? It's just WGs overstating what they think their services are worth and trying to make more money in an unfavourable situation for punters, it's price gouging at the end of the day. It's understandable but hard to justify from a punting standpoint. A textbook stringent economic analysis of demand and supply in relation to making a profit or justifying costs does not always work in the real world unfortunately.

[LLPunting]

Justification... it's an interesting concept.

It works both ways.  Some of the service providers provide a very high end service (or at least what is marketted as a high end service).  It's a businesss model that requires investment and a return on that investment is naturally expected.  Nice things costs money and the client will have to pay for that if they want to engage with the service provider on those terms.  Therefore the high price point is fully justified.  It has to be, these service providers are not running a charity.  A profit is not only expected but demanded.

Conversely of course, the client may not care one jot for "high end services" - ultimately it's paid for sex at the end, dress it up which ever way you like, at its most base level the net result with some £40 burned out broken hooker is exactly the same as it would be with an £1k per night 'courtesan'.  To that end a higher price point may not be justified at all.

It's a simple case of supply and demand.  If the service provider charges too a high a fee, then they will not get much business.  If the client is unwilling to pay a higher fee, then he will have to suffice with the Tesco Value range of service providers.  It is fully justified both ways to my mind.

The tenor of the question posed for this thread is "is the rising cost of the same services (seemingly with reduced quality judging by the aggregate of reporting and commentary this past few years) justified".  As you say different market strata different prices but that's not what was being challenged.  Estella pitched in with her upmarket proposition but in the context of this thread she wasn't justifying the cost increase of her sexual performance just the increased charge for moving from her previous "downmarket" offering to her higher class new one.  She was re-branding and given her later responses the only thing that would've gotten better sex from her would've been paying even more than her higher ticket prices.  As most of us know, re-branding is usually less about substance and all about revised (mis-)perception of ostensibly the same quality of offer.  E.g. Same gin different bottle, same build quality more contemporary styling and colour options, etc.

[Barnaby Bear]

The tenor of the question posed for this thread is "is the rising cost of the same services (seemingly with reduced quality judging by the aggregate of reporting and commentary this past few years) justified".  As you say different market strata different prices but that's not what was being challenged.  Estella pitched in with her upmarket proposition but in the context of this thread she wasn't justifying the cost increase of her sexual performance just the increased charge for moving from her previous "downmarket" offering to her higher class new one.  She was re-branding and given her later responses the only thing that would've gotten better sex from her would've been paying even more than her higher ticket prices.  As most of us know, re-branding is usually less about substance and all about revised (mis-)perception of ostensibly the same quality of offer.  E.g. Same gin different bottle, same build quality more contemporary styling and colour options, etc.

I think that question has already been answered in the previous responses, and the answer was generally in the negative... as it is bound to be.  The thread seems to develop into other areas of justification and that is what I was responding to within the framework of increasing price points.

However, I accept that it is (and always will be) a case of rebranding the same product.  The price will increase as long as people are prepared to pay it. 

[southcoastpunter]

if you ask the buyers of any service if price rises are justified, the majority will probably say "no". if you ask the sellers, the majority will probbaly say "yes". so its hardly surprising that if you ask punters whether WG prices rises are justified, the majority say "no".

[filthy.john]

The current rates are absolutely fucking mental...

External Link/Members Only - stated age 44, not what I would call 'attractive' (accept that is subjective though), and overweight: !140 ph!!!!

External Link/Members Only - where to even begin with this whale-like 24 year old... again £140ph.

External Link/Members Only - Romanian outcall, no UKP reviews... £150ph!

External Link/Members Only - Mike Tyson wannabee/look-alike advertising bareback - £180ph

WTAF?????

[Ali Katt]

The current rates are absolutely fucking mental...

External Link/Members Only - stated age 44, not what I would call 'attractive' (accept that is subjective though), and overweight: !140 ph!!!!

External Link/Members Only - where to even begin with this whale-like 24 year old... again £140ph.

External Link/Members Only - Romanian outcall, no UKP reviews... £150ph!

External Link/Members Only - Mike Tyson wannabee/look-alike advertising bareback - £180ph

WTAF?????

I've seen the top one, was £100 an hour when I saw her 3 years ago.

[ilovekungfu]

I've seen a few anecdotal comments from WGs on Twitter etc. that they are getting booked quite quickly so I don't think its out of the question that prices are being adjusted upwards to compensate for higher demand.

Not really surprising after the best part of a year off for most people. In time prices may regress to the mean depending on whether or not there are simply less WGs around compared to last year.

[Metalgear2018]

I think for the risk these women take and the type of people they encounter they don't get paid enough. These risks can range from std, violence, and criminal convictions.

[daviemac]

I think for the risk these women take and the type of people they encounter they don't get paid enough. These risks can range from std, violence, and criminal convictions.

Yes, and punters can be robbed, beaten up, have a pimp sit on their chest and threaten then with a lamp just because the dared complain and that is not even mentioning the diabolical service some provide, the bait and switch and all things of that nature.

It's risky on both sides.

[lamboman]

These risks can range from std, violence, and criminal convictions.

As they also do for clients.

[filthy.john]

I've seen a few anecdotal comments from WGs on Twitter etc. that they are getting booked quite quickly so I don't think its out of the question that prices are being adjusted upwards to compensate for higher demand.

Not really surprising after the best part of a year off for most people. In time prices may regress to the mean depending on whether or not there are simply less WGs around compared to last year.

Unlikely... never known prices to go backwards... known them to stop artificially low for a long long time - the race to the bottom in Sheffield once upon a time for example - £25 in Fantasia and First Class for years for a 15-30 min pump and dump. But once the price has gine up to a level it stays there. It becomes the norm. It aint going back down, trust me.

[Neo]

Yes, and punters can be robbed, beaten up, have a pimp sit on their chest and threaten then with a lamp just because the dared complain and that is not even mentioning the diabolical service some provide, the bait and switch and all things of that nature.

It's risky on both sides.

You raise a good point, that lamp story is it one thats personally to you?

[alabama1]

I think for the risk these women take and the type of people they encounter they don't get paid enough. These risks can range from std, violence, and criminal convictions.

I can't believe I've just read that on here. Out of interest,  how much do you think they should be paid 

[Payyourwaymate]

I think for the risk these women take and the type of people they encounter they don't get paid enough. These risks can range from std, violence, and criminal convictions.

bruh?

[daviemac]

You raise a good point, that lamp story is it one thats personally to you?

No it just happened in the NE. Search 'the chest sitter'. 

[petermisc]

Unlikely... never known prices to go backwards... known them to stop artificially low for a long long time - the race to the bottom in Sheffield once upon a time for example - £25 in Fantasia and First Class for years for a 15-30 min pump and dump. But once the price has gine up to a level it stays there. It becomes the norm. It aint going back down, trust me.

While I agree with most of what you say, there have been price drops recently in some parts of the country.  VS ads for £20-30 for a quick Rom p&d in Brum, for example.  Whereas some of the prices I am seeing on LEG in London are quite eye-watering, to me at least.  While some prices, such as the London Asian agencies, have not risen for probably a decade or more.

My take on what is happening is that existing WGs are largely keeping their prices stable, with only moderate price increases in some cases (£100ph to £110, for example) - they don't want to lose their existing clients.  Those catering to the lower end of the market (Roms, Brazilians, etc) are even reducing their prices.  It is the girls who are new to the game that are charging the inflated prices.  Yes, they may drop their prices if they don't get the custom, however the fact that they aren't dropping prices suggests that they are getting the custom.  There is a lot of spare money saved during the lockdowns, now sloshing around in peoples' pockets asking to be spent.  Unfortunately, as you say, these prices look like becoming the new normal, as newcomers look at what others are charging, and price themselves to match.

I see no point in railing against these prices, it is market forces in action.  Things are unlikely to change until EE girls have unrestricted access to the UK again.

[Vice Admiral]

It is the girls who are new to the game that are charging the inflated prices.  Yes, they may drop their prices if they don't get the custom, however the fact that they aren't dropping prices suggests that they are getting the custom.  There is a lot of spare money saved during the lockdowns, now sloshing around in peoples' pockets asking to be spent.  Unfortunately, as you say, these prices look like becoming the new normal, as newcomers look at what others are charging, and price themselves to match.  I see no point in railing against these prices, it is market forces in action.

A persuasive analysis.

Around 2005, £60 for half-an-hour was a fairly common price on Adult Work for an attractive English girl.

Gradually £70 and then £80 became pretty standard, but these increases were in line with inflation, as £90 would be today – since the Bank of England Inflation calculator tells us that £60 in 2005 was worth £91-62 in 2020. 

However figures such as £100, £120 (or even more) for half-an-hour, which are now quite common prices, especially for new entrants, are well above inflation.

I suspect that Bank of England inflation data isn't regularly studied in Hookersville – but it would appear that its inhabitants do, as you suggest, follow Margaret Thatcher's dictum that "you can't buck the market".

[dynatron]

at the end of the day working girls will charge whatever they think they can get away with just like any other business i suppose

[abbie]

Just my two cents, hope you don't mind... 
I work in London but live in Manchester.

So, I charge £250 per hour- this is what I need to spend before I see anyone to be presentable, give you a great time ect

£800 rent per week in zone 1
£200 train fare per month
£400 advertising per month
£400-£600 per lingerie set (Bordelle/ Birdette ect)
£250 per month make up, nails, waxing, hair
£70 Wine, champagne, beer for clients
Plus £600 a month for my bills in Manchester

I know its slightly different for me because I travel down from the North but escorting for *escorts themselves* is expensive. I could spend a lot less but you would be in a crumbier apartment, I'd be in bog standard lingerie with crappy Aliexpress sex toys and the service would be meh.

Plus- CORONOAVIRUS  As an escort I am taking a HUGE risk by working. I know that you are too, but you don't *have* to see escorts, many escorts have had to keep working despite the risks because a year without an income is impossible. I'm sorry to butt in, I just wanted to give you my viewpoint.

Happy punting 

Diana Bentham xx

Lol, funny thing I ever read. It is not the prices I laughing at because as an escort you can set whatever prices you want if the punter chooses to pay that, then it is on them. What I laughing at, is when you said as an escort "we have to keep working despite the risks".  No one told you to keep working you chose to be an escort because you consider it easy money. You can literally make a grand in a day depending on how many clients you see so don't act like anyone is forcing you.

[abbie]

Thank you for this - my biggest surprise is the £400 Advertisement Fee... Is that how much it costs to advertise on AW?

That not strictly true, I once spoke to an escort and I said to her it must cost a lot to advertise and she smiled I said not at much as you think. She said paid about 50-60 pounds a month.

[JontyR]

That not strictly true, I once spoke to an escort and I said to her it must cost a lot to advertise and she smiled I said not at much as you think. She said paid about 50-60 pounds a month.

Like anything you can pay as much as you want. It costs a lot less to advertise on More4 in the middle of the night than it does to sponsor Corrie.

You can literally make a grand in a day depending on how many clients you see so don't act like anyone is forcing you.

They aren't going to make anything judging by your punting / review record.

[abbie]

They aren't going to make anything judging by your punting / review record.

If you say so

[daviemac]

Lol, funny thing I ever read. It is not the prices I laughing at because as an escort you can set whatever prices you want if the punter chooses to pay that, then it is on them. What I laughing at, is when you said as an escort "we have to keep working despite the risks".  No one told you to keep working you chose to be an escort because you consider it easy money. You can literally make a grand in a day depending on how many clients you see so don't act like anyone is forcing you.

That not strictly true, I once spoke to an escort and I said to her it must cost a lot to advertise and she smiled I said not at much as you think. She said paid about 50-60 pounds a month.

Have you ever read the rules of this site by any chance, you've been here getting on for 6 years and made zero useful contributions. This is a situation that needs to change.

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