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tonyofstoney

Maybe I'm missing out on some parallel world here, but how can you have a 'valued friend' of someone you met up with once, whom you paid to fuck, and then you keep emailing because you've convinced yourself it's more than mere commerce?

We chat, we share views, experiences, confidences, we meet up from time to time...just like any other friends really.  And let's face it, I can discuss things with them I can hardly chat about at work or with the wife!  Okay, initially I paid these ladies to entertain me, then we developed a 'relationship'.  Is that really so different from picking up a girl in a bar, ending up in her bed, and maybe you call her again, maybe you try to forget she ever existed?  After all, as Chairman Mao might have put it, many marriages start with the first random fuck.

(Actually, in the case of one of my friends, we became chatty on another forum before I met her for the first time.)

tonyofstoney

I think Linc may have a point. Are these friendly hookers not just looking for repeat business?

No, I don't think they are.  I haven't seen some of them in that way for quite a while, but our friendships have blossomed in that time.

tonyofstoney

very well said. I think some of these "we're all mates, the WGs see me as a trusted confidante, they're my best mate and we're always having a laugh" types are bloody deluded, and usually don't have any actual friends so convince themselves that the person they've paid money to spend time with really likes them. Naaaaive.

Well, you're entitled to yoiur view Linc, I think I know my friends rather better than you do, and if their friendship is delusory I still rather enjoy it.   :)

Offline itsmekurt

... if their friendship is delusory I still rather enjoy it.   :)

Like I said before, good for you. Either way, I can't see any harm in it. :drinks:

Offline Linc09

Like I said before, good for you. Either way, I can't see any harm in it. :drinks:

Me neither, not my role to judge, each to their own Tony/Kurt.

We chat, we share views, experiences, confidences, we meet up from time to time...just like any other friends really.  And let's face it, I can discuss things with them I can hardly chat about at work or with the wife!  Okay, initially I paid these ladies to entertain me, then we developed a 'relationship'.  Is that really so different from picking up a girl in a bar, ending up in her bed, and maybe you call her again, maybe you try to forget she ever existed?  After all, as Chairman Mao might have put it, many marriages start with the first random fuck.

(Actually, in the case of one of my friends, we became chatty on another forum before I met her for the first time.)

But it's not 'just like any other friends, really'. With any other friends, you can introduce them to your mates, your family, your colleagues, your kids, with a legitimate explanation about how you know them. You're simply not able to do that with someone you've paid to fuck i.e. a PROSTITUTE because no matter how liberal and understanding you think your friends and family are, they're just not going to be OK about it. Which is why you know you can't and won't do it. Charlie Sheen could just about get away with it. For the rest of us, it's totally out of the question.

Of course, I get that you can have a 'relationship' with someone who's isolated from the rest of your life, and that particular plane can allow you to discuss stuff that maybe can't or won't get talked about anywhere else. But if you think paying a prostitute for sex is the same as picking up a girl in a bar, I think you're not understanding some very core basics about prostitution.



tonyofstoney

if you think paying a prostitute for sex is the same as picking up a girl in a bar, I think you're not understanding some very core basics about prostitution.


Well, we'll have to agree to differ on the main point, but to some extent it's two sides of the same coin.  An hour with a prostitue including, if you're a get-straight-in-there-and-shag-it merchant, say £120.  Picking up an unknown girl in a bar, maybe three vodka-tonics (each), entry to a club and a few more drinks, a taxi back to her place, possibly a takeaway kebab on the way, okay, a couple of hours action between her snoring drunkenly beside you, then getting back home or to work or whatever in the morning, not to mention having to so all that boring social interaction thing - £???
« Last Edit: November 24, 2010, 09:41:01 PM by tonyofstoney »

Offline Linc09

Well, we'll have to agree to differ on the main point, but to some extent it's two sides of the same coin.  An hour with a prostitue including, if you're a get-straight-in-there-and-shag-it merchant, say £120.  Picking up an unknown girl in a bar, maybe three vodka-tonics (each), entry to a club and a few more drinks, a taxi back to her place, possibly a takeaway kebab on the way, okay, a couple of hours action between her snoring drunkenly beside you, then getting back home or to work or whatever in the morning, not to mention having to so all that boring social interaction thing - £???

haha when you put it like that....

Offline itsmekurt

Picking up an unknown girl in a bar, maybe three vodka-tonics (each), entry to a club and a few more drinks, a taxi back to her place, possibly a takeaway kebab on the way, okay, a couple of hours action between her snoring drunkenly beside you, then getting back home or to work or whatever in the morning, not to mention having to so all that boring social interaction thing - £???
That’s really happened? I was going to say that perhaps you have been doing something wrong, but on reflection I’ll say that you seem to have been doing everything wrong. Oh, and I think you may have forgotten to include the cost of sorting out a dose of Chlamydia.

tonyofstoney

That’s really happened? I was going to say that perhaps you have been doing something wrong, but on reflection I’ll say that you seem to have been doing everything wrong. Oh, and I think you may have forgotten to include the cost of sorting out a dose of Chlamydia.


Yes, it was expensive, but Chlamydia's a lovely girl.   :D     :P

Offline itsmekurt

Yes, it was expensive, but Chlamydia's a lovely girl.   :D     :P

Oh, good old Clammy Chlamy, you should have told me before.



What a doll!



Well, we'll have to agree to differ on the main point, but to some extent it's two sides of the same coin.  An hour with a prostitue including, if you're a get-straight-in-there-and-shag-it merchant, say £120.  Picking up an unknown girl in a bar, maybe three vodka-tonics (each), entry to a club and a few more drinks, a taxi back to her place, possibly a takeaway kebab on the way, okay, a couple of hours action between her snoring drunkenly beside you, then getting back home or to work or whatever in the morning, not to mention having to so all that boring social interaction thing - £???

Sorry, I don't see that it's two sides of the same coin at all. One of the girls is a prostitute. Yes, that's right. A prostitute. She's taking her knickers down because you've paid her to. That's it. No other reason. And two hours later, she might do the same thing with some other guy who's also paid her to.

The other is someone who's taking you home because she likes you enough to want to do it for free. The fact that you spent money on vodka and taxis has no relevance at all.

Guys who mix the two up and think it's all basically the same thing, because the net financial outlay may be the same and because they ended up getting their dick wet anyway, are living under a very severe delusion.

And the 'boring social interaction thing'.... if you're a functioning adult who has adult (i.e real) relationships with other people (like your mates, your wife, your family, your co-workers and so on) the 'social interaction' bit is the bit you'd mostly enjoy. Wouldn't you?
Then again, if you sit at a computer all day long and make 'friends' that way,  I suppose real life could quickly end up looking like hard work.




tonyofstoney

Sorry, I don't see that it's two sides of the same coin at all. One of the girls is a prostitute. Yes, that's right. A prostitute. She's taking her knickers down because you've paid her to. That's it. No other reason. And two hours later, she might do the same thing with some other guy who's also paid her to.

The other is someone who's taking you home because she likes you enough to want to do it for free. The fact that you spent money on vodka and taxis has no relevance at all.

Guys who mix the two up and think it's all basically the same thing, because the net financial outlay may be the same and because they ended up getting their dick wet anyway, are living under a very severe delusion.

And the 'boring social interaction thing'.... if you're a functioning adult who has adult (i.e real) relationships with other people (like your mates, your wife, your family, your co-workers and so on) the 'social interaction' bit is the bit you'd mostly enjoy. Wouldn't you?
Then again, if you sit at a computer all day long and make 'friends' that way,  I suppose real life could quickly end up looking like hard work.





I would fully respond Nutjob, but the nurses are here now to give me my injections before I go away for a nice game of chess with Julius Caesar and Satan.

Offline Simple

Although I'll share some idle small talk with a prossie during the down times I have absolutely no interest in getting to know a prossie as I'd take anything she said with a grain of salt and I'm looking not really to make new 'friends' as the ones I have now are a hassle and I severely doubt many prossies are themselves, or at least with the likes of me...

Even though I don't consider myself the "get-straight-in-there-and-shag-it" sort of punter I'm under no illusion that punting is anymore then what should be a straightforward and simple buisness transaction of exchanging sex and some pleasantries for money, if she wasn't somehow making money from me she wouldn't give me the time of day...

Basically I don't get overly familar or attached and only wish to make contact when I'm arranging a booking, I find it much simpler this way...
« Last Edit: November 25, 2010, 05:07:07 PM by Simple »

Offline itsmekurt

Although I'll share some idle small talk with a prossie during the down times I have absolutely no interest in getting to know a prossie as I'd take anything she said with a grain of salt and I'm looking not really to make new 'friends' as the ones I have now are a hassle and I severely doubt many prossies are themselves, or at least with the likes of me...

Even though I don't consider myself the "get-straight-in-there-and-shag-it" sort of punter I'm under no illusion that punting is anymore then what should be a straightforward and simple buisness transaction of exchanging sex and some pleasantries for money, if she wasn't somehow making money from me she wouldn't give me the time of day...

Basically I don't get overly familar or attached and only wish to make contact when I'm arranging a booking, I find it much simpler this way...

Well Simple, we are entirely of one mind. Like you, ‘I have absolutely no interest in getting to know a prossie as I'd take anything she said with a grain of salt’. Their motivation is simply to make as much money out of their vaginas as they possibly can, and my motivation in that context is to have a good shag when I feel like it. For me, that’s the basis for a satisfactory commercial transaction. I like the female body, but a prostitutes mind, such as it is, is of no interest to me at all.

Offline softlad

I'm fairly sure that I would have been one of them. I have seen the same prostitute more than once only on two occasions, and one of those was purely by accident (same girl working at another parlour under a different name). There was one other that I did want to meet again, but she just vanished. :(


Don't you just hate it when that happens ?  :(

Offline Linc09


Don't you just hate it when that happens ?  :(

Recently happened to me for first time, veeeery annoying

Although I'll share some idle small talk with a prossie during the down times I have absolutely no interest in getting to know a prossie as I'd take anything she said with a grain of salt and I'm looking not really to make new 'friends' as the ones I have now are a hassle and I severely doubt many prossies are themselves, or at least with the likes of me...

Even though I don't consider myself the "get-straight-in-there-and-shag-it" sort of punter I'm under no illusion that punting is anymore then what should be a straightforward and simple buisness transaction of exchanging sex and some pleasantries for money, if she wasn't somehow making money from me she wouldn't give me the time of day...

Basically I don't get overly familar or attached and only wish to make contact when I'm arranging a booking, I find it much simpler this way...

I think you're bang-on with this post, and I agree that you can have a perfectly pleasant and civilised time with a prostitute while at the same time, keeping it utterly shallow. Even with those girls I've seen dozens of times, It's never for one second crossed my mind that I'd want to be friends with them. And I don't understand these guys who think it's either possible or desirable.

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Even though I don't consider myself the "get-straight-in-there-and-shag-it" sort of punter I'm under no illusion that punting is anymore then what should be a straightforward and simple buisness transaction of exchanging sex and some pleasantries for money, if she wasn't somehow making money from me she wouldn't give me the time of day...

Absolutely brilliant post, as I have said numerous times most of these ladies would not wee on you to put out a fire --------- unless they were being paid, some guys are sadly deluded.

Offline Wayang

I find that a depressingly simplistic view and I suspect it reflects your attitude to punting - ie, an occasion to unload your sacs in some skinny bimbo.
I am the last to be fluffie and realise that money is the motivation of most women in turning  to prostitution.  But prostitutes are people and should be treated as part of the human race - not as social outcasts as you imply.
Go find 'em, (don't) feed 'em, fuck 'em and forget 'em but accept that some of us at least like to know the name of the WG we are fucking.

I find that a depressingly simplistic view and I suspect it reflects your attitude to punting - ie, an occasion to unload your sacs in some skinny bimbo.
I am the last to be fluffie and realise that money is the motivation of most women in turning  to prostitution.  But prostitutes are people and should be treated as part of the human race - not as social outcasts as you imply.
Go find 'em, (don't) feed 'em, fuck 'em and forget 'em but accept that some of us at least like to know the name of the WG we are fucking.

Why does it have to be one thing or the other? It's entirely possible to have a respectful but emotionally shallow experience with a prostitute. Just because you don't want to be mates with her doesn't mean you'd treat her disrespectfully.

Online Jimmyredcab


Go find 'em, (don't) feed 'em, fuck 'em and forget 'em but accept that some of us at least like to know the name of the WG we are fucking.

So you really think you know their name ?? Possible, but highly unlikely in my experience, 99.9% of prostitutes do not use their real name ---------- and if they do tell you their "real name" there is a pretty good chance that they are telling more lies.
You may call me a cynic, I like to think I am a realist.  ;)

Online Jimmyredcab

I find that a depressingly simplistic view and I suspect it reflects your attitude to punting - ie, an occasion to unload your sacs in some skinny bimbo.

By skinny bimbo I assume you mean young, slim and attractive girls ---------- I admit that is my preference.  ;)

Offline Mellow

So you really think you know their name ?? Possible, but highly unlikely in my experience, 99.9% of prostitutes do not use their real name ---------- and if they do tell you their "real name" there is a pretty good chance that they are telling more lies.
You may call me a cynic, I like to think I am a realist.  ;)
Of the hundreds of wgs I've known, only one was close enough to me to be truthful. She had different levels of closeness towards clients, mostly depending on how many times she had serviced him. She gave out her fake name, then her fake fake name, then her sisters name, then her mother's name. The only name that was private was the one that her mum and dad call her by.

Offline Simple

Even though I don't view the prossies I see as fuck puppets or the likes and I usually maintain pleasent and civil conversation, albeit as superficial as Paris Hilton, I am fully aware the simple fact that prostitution is the ladies in question occupation (or vocation) and if we weren't engaged in or arranging a business transaction of paid sex she more than likely wouldn't even ackowledge my existence in civvy streets, or to slightly paraphrase JRC's sentiments piss on me if I was on fire...

I consider punting something of a paid for fantasy where you are supposedly desireable and ladies can achieve orgasms within mere moments, what I personally want out of punting is to spend some raunchy time with a lovely and decent prossie and then leave entering back into the 'real world' with a smile on my face and filthy memories that hopefully last...

Call me a cynic, but I believe if the money where removed from the equation most (if not all) prossies simply wouldn't wanna know and quite frankly I have no interest whatsoever in prying into a ladie's private life, or trying to weasel my way into it...


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