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Author Topic: at discretion  (Read 3567 times)

why on earth wg's use the term 'at discretion' on certain services 
my point is either say yes or clearly say no, as an example if you call a wg who has discretion on OW, over the phone they'll say yes but once you're there then it all becomes at discretion again  :dash:

Offline k

Ruling out the possibility of there being something unacceptable about you, as I'm sure you wouldn't be posting here if there were any doubt in your mind, the main contender would be that the person who wrote the profile, and the person you spoke to on the phone, are/is not the same person who opened the door to you when you arrived.

Ravanelli

Yes, and the worse one is anal at discretion, they'll nearly always say you're too big or as happened to me recently, she is too sore from all the bum fun she'd had with previous punters. Often those 'discretionary' items exist as extras if at all but I've not once paid for extras. I have a view that if a girl charges for extra services then she doesn't really enjoy it so there's not much point. Anal is the perfect  example, it's not particularly my thing but its nice when its on the occasional menu. IMHO, the girls who enjoy it do it without extra charge and its not discretionary. I think the one caveat is OWO which won't make a great deal of difference to the WG but you could argue that she was charging for extra risk. A tactic sometimes adopted for bareback but then I wouldn't go near anyone that does bareback anyway. I mentioned to a WG quite recently that I wouldn't pay extra for anal and explained why and got a ranting abusive email back saying she was here for money and did I think she was gonna let some bloke fuck her arse for free, she does it for money not for fun, perhaps making my point entirely. I do try and find girls who enjoy what they do, makes for a happier punt all round.

Ravanelli

Ruling out the possibility of there being something unacceptable about you, as I'm sure you wouldn't be posting here if there were any doubt in your mind, the main contender would be that the person who wrote the profile, and the person you spoke to on the phone, are/is not the same person who opened the door to you when you arrived.

Good point, I wonder how many punters are honest about their own status. I'm sure there's the odd one with a water allergy who hasn't showered for 4 weeks.

Offline AnthG

The general rule I follow. And the one many others here follow from remembering the topics this has been discussed in the past.

Is if it only has a service at discretion. Then she does not do it at all and its simply a hook to get people in.

Its only when she lists in her enjoys list the non at discretion along with it do you stand a chance.

e.g on the search there are two options for OWO.

Oral without (at discretion)
Oral without Protection

Of course you also get the problems of profiles not even being written by her.

Ravanelli

I find its often in their likes list but with a separate note in the text regarding it being at their discretion.

Online NIK

It's understandable that if someone's hygiene isn't what it should be, or they have a twelve inch cock, then certain services might be refused, but as often as not it's a cop out.  :cool:

Offline mh

The general rule I follow. And the one many others here follow from remembering the topics this has been discussed in the past.

Is if it only has a service at discretion. Then she does not do it at all and its simply a hook to get people in.


I've not found this to be the case at all. I am fairly sure that in all of the meetings I've had where something (typically OWO, CIM, Anal) is listed as "at discretion", but has been agreed during the booking process then it has been available and enjoyed during the punt.

Offline Sarahs Back

Adultwork should change the enjoys list
 
Something like this

Dizzy cum slut.....

These are the things I will do with you... (it's stupid to say enjoy)

Then next to the list there should be a Section to write the word extra and how much and to the side it should have notes box, which guys (that have used the booking form) can say if they was aloud or not and reason given


Also it should give you a section next to service where you can explain what your discretion is
For instance I won't do cum in mouth but I do cum over mouth, so I ticked the box and noted it in my profile but not everyone will see it



Offline Dani

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For me at discretion for OWO has always meant as long as when you use the shower you also use the gels and/or soaps provided but that also means I would not give you oral at all if you dont, as I will not put my head anywhere that stinks.  Or obviously visual signs of an STI in which case you will be told to leave anyway
For FK or DFK it means as long as you use the moushwash I provide to which there is no excuse as it is in individual sealed tubs (so no other man has put his mouth on it) and is alochol free (for those who use the alcohol excuse) and if not no mouth contact at all.

It does seem however that alot of women are using it to mean, depends if I fancy you or not, which is wrong.  They cant use the old his cock smelt if they are willing to do oral with a condom as the area still smells with or without.  Again for the old, it looked like an STI as surely you would not do anything with someone with a visable STI.

I do however have it stated clearly on my profile as to why these services would be at discretion and if punters are happy to wash and use mouthwash then their is never a problem.  I do not use shower time as part of their time.

I do think if you have something at discretion you should explain clearly what 'discretion' means. What rules it out.  As for the your cock is too big for anal then they need to say the maximum size they can take so that there is no confusion.  After all they must know as they can take a quick look at yours and know it is too big so they know what they can and cannot accomodate.

I always thought it was the equivalent of "sorry i've got a headache. I i can see Cassie's and others point about hygiene and STI's after all you want to keep yourself healthy and well.

Q. How have you guys dealt with it when services have been confirmed on the phone and then declined at the meet?
I know a lot of you walk away and it's been discussed before, but in reality how easy is that to do for most of you?
what do you say?

Do you feel bad if she then changes her mind and offers you services e.g. OWO or CIM? after all none of us want to  be involved in coercion and none of us want a shit halfhearted service.

HMD   

Offline tightfoot69

at discretion really means ' i will do it if i find you a hunk'. i thought everyone knew that.


I disagree after all a girl isn't going to be attracted to most of her clients that'll want OWO or CIM i've always taken it as cleanliness (highly professional) and mood (sometimes questionable when seeking to provide a service)

HMD 

Offline zootalors

at discretion really means ' i will do it if i find you a hunk'. i thought everyone knew that.

Ah,that  explains it then .A woman I used to see regularly in the 90`s,and got on very well with, now offers OWO(at discretion) so I gave her a call,she remembered me straight away.I didn`t mention her AW page,but when I asked if she does OWO she said"Oh  no,I never do that` :(

Fuck her,plenty do  :lol:



Again with the lying :) Some of the guys might be able to me more about this. Were there less services on offer in the 90's because sites like Adultwork and Eastern European migration hadn't fully kicked in?

HMD 

Offline ncarter

The phrase 'at discretion' reminds me of when in my student days I had moved into the house I was in during my 2nd and 3rd years which happened to be in the Red Light District of the town (I was far too innocent those days, and whilst I had a curiosity about what was going on, lacked the nerves and courage :rolleyes:..) Anyway, one night (late evening) think the first night back, I was sat unpacking my stuff in the room when I heard an argument on the street "It's not my fault that no-one will sleep with me" shouted between what I assume was a WG and her pimp. Definitely not a case of discretion.

As another quick story, was walking home late one night and passed 2 Working Grannys eating chips when 1 asked if I was looking for business  :vomit: Nearly made me join the priesthood on the spot.

Offline zootalors


Again with the lying :) Some of the guys might be able to me more about this. Were there less services on offer in the 90's because sites like Adultwork and Eastern European migration hadn't fully kicked in?

HMD
In the 90`s I found it harder to get OWO than it was to win the lottery.Of the 43 girls I saw only 5 did it and only 2 to completion.Since 2001..every girl I`ve seen(40 +) has done it,and only a few haven`t gone all the way.I was born 10 years too early .


Offline Ali Katt

I think if a punter has an Sti he shouldn't be punting, ditto goes for if the WG has one, she shouldn't work. Likewise if a punter sees a WG and he has warts, he should be refused a punt, covered or otherwise but how many would actually refuse?

If I am looking for anal; I will see an escort who is known to provide this service, either with evidence of it in her feedback\reports and\or a profile text saying she offers it, if it is size specific or extra, I won't bother. So far I haven't been refused, when I've looked for it.

Offline Dani

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I think if a punter has an Sti he shouldn't be punting, ditto goes for if the WG has one, she shouldn't work. Likewise if a punter sees a WG and he has warts, he should be refused a punt, covered or otherwise but how many would actually refuse?


I would and I have.  I have actually had one guy say 'oh those, they are normal I have had them ages' when they were obviously genital warts and he was covered in them.  He was told to leave as I do with anyone who has a visible STI as I will not touch them even with a condom.
It can be awkward and sometimes they get nasty but I would prefer a to deal with an angry client than have to touch someone with an STI

Offline mh

at discretion really means ' i will do it if i find you a hunk'. i thought everyone knew that.
Ha ha, no, seriously,  I really don't think I ever got "at discretion" services because I was considered a hunk. I'm clean, polite, not a hunk!

Offline Ali Katt

I would and I have.  I have actually had one guy say 'oh those, they are normal I have had them ages' when they were obviously genital warts and he was covered in them.  He was told to leave as I do with anyone who has a visible STI as I will not touch them even with a condom.
It can be awkward and sometimes they get nasty but I would prefer a to deal with an angry client than have to touch someone with an STI
Very sensible. We often talk of bad WGs, but punters like that are literally a fucking disgrace. I don't even punt if I have a cold.

Offline ncarter

Very sensible. We often talk of bad WGs, but punters like that are literally a fucking disgrace. I don't even punt if I have a cold.
+1 It's idiots like this who ruin things for the rest. Where an STI is visible /symptoms are clearly noticeable, there should be no excuses for not getting it treated.

Offline Louise 100% British

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I had someone who had paid for rimming and said he was freshly showered.
He bent over and there was visible shit all over his arsehole :(
Turned my stomach.  :vomit:

I did refund him for the rimming- and carried on with the booking after he went for another shower.

Technically though I could have terminated the apppointment, but we were both as embarassed.
Just glad I didn;t put my head down there.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2012, 09:43:38 PM by Louise »

Offline Whore Of Babylon

+1 It's idiots like this who ruin things for the rest. Where an STI is visible /symptoms are clearly noticeable, there should be no excuses for not getting it treated.
Absolutely. You wouldn't believe the amount of men I've seen with warts on their on cocks and still try to get me to suck them without.
There's no excuse, you don't even have to go to your doctor, you can pop into any walk-in clinic anonymously.
I've seen an escort or two with a bad case of BV (fishy cunt smell)  :vomit:  So both sides of the camp need a clean up!


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