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Ok you've had your 30 seconds of fame so lets now address the profile:

1. Bad intro
The first thing a client will see is your main picture then your opening paragraph. Your opening paragraph is the most important part of your profile. What you put here should be words that compliment your picture or sell whatever idea of you or your service that you want to appeal most to a potential client. If a guy looks at your Intro in it's present form the first thing they will see is some generic babble about a profile picture update? I'm sorry but that needs to go else where. Use the first paragraph to sell yourself. Think of the first paragraph as the 'Why should I give you this job' type question. If you don't sell yourself in those opening first lines the client will very likely move on.

2. Don't advertise others
Just by putting CarlyG's name in your opening you have immediately distracted the focus away from yourself. Since the opening is already poor there is a possibility clients might start looking up who CarlyG is instead. She is not the queen of everything and if you read around a few punting forums you will find she is actually quite disliked. Having CarlyG's name in there doesn't give you extra 'cred', it actually takes it away from you.

3. Too much text
The 'About Me' text is disjointed and doesn't flow. 'I am a genuine...' ?? Also having everything in bold doesn't make pleasant reading and is especially annoying when you start to get preachy which we will come on to.
The 'Try a sensual girlfriend experience' bit doesn't need you to list all your services again. However the extras do need to be made very clear and separate from the body of the text.
'Dress Code' - You can cut this right down and leave out the fake tan bit. If I see the words 'fake tan' or 'caked in make up' they create negative connotations and i'm going to start having doubts. Don't put negatives in your profile, stay positive.

4. Too many FAQ's
Q Will I do Bareback A. No I want to live -  This is too much, a simple 'No' or 'No, please do not ask' is fine, don't get all high and mighty, guys hate this.
Q Do you enjoy your job? - This is not necessary, they will be able to tell whether you do when they see you and besides no one ever answers 'No' so the question is pointless.
Q Do you swallow. A Thanks. But no thanks - Again you don't have to be smarmy with the answer, just answer 'No' or ensure in your profile text you clearly state you only provide the services shown with the exception of A and B which are C extra.
Q. Will you do watersports or hardsports?    A. No- I don't think this is very clean. - Again, don't preach your personal opinion of a service, some clients like somethings and some don't, it's not for you to slap your personal opinion on it, that's a massive turn off.
Q. Do you need a driver?    A. No. I have a car. Why would I pay for your fuel as well as mine??! - You are coming over as hostile and clients do not need to read this as drivers don't concern them.
Q. What shall I bring with me?  - Remove the bit about gifts, if someone wants to give you a gift they will give you one.
Q. Do you work on your own?    - Not necessary you can include note about your independence in your profile text.
Q. Pornstar experience?    A. Lol no- all the fake moaning.... - Keep personal negative opinions out of it, instead turn it into a positive that you provide the best most sensual GFE... etc
Q. I have an appointment with you at 5pm... - Not needed, include in your text to please turn up on time at the time stated.
Q. Roleplay Please?    A. I am not into the fantasy of being a 12 year old school girl. I used to offer roleplay but got asked for things I thought to be strange- so it is now off limits. Sorry - Keep personal opinions out of it.

Q. How many times can I cum?    A. I give up how many times can you cum? - Now this is confusing as your website states:
Quote from: Louise's Website
£70 for half an hour all inclusive- Full Unrushed GFE once
£100 for 45 minutess all inclusive- Full Unrushed GFE twice
£130 for an hour all inclusive - Full Unrushed GFE as many times as you like
Get this sorted asap, you have a cum once/cum twice policy on there. You need to be uniform with both your website and your AW profile or your are just inviting confusion.

Q. We are a new agency recruiting....    A. No. Why would I want to pay you commission for something I can do all by myself??? - Clients don't need to read this, your battles with agencies are not their concern.
Q. What will you be wearing?    - Not necessary if already covered in profile text
Q. Do you have a boyfriend?    A. And why would this be your business? - Unnecessary question and even more unnecesary reply, the B word shouldn't even be in there, this is clients fantasy time.
Q. Where are you based?    - Could be included briefly in main profile text.
Q. Can I text you for a booking?    A. Yes providing you give me a brief intro of who you are, You must get straight to the point in a polite manner. Otherwise I will be inclined to ignore you. Simply because "hi are you avail? doesn't really do it for me! - Be specific, with what you want them to text you if you accept bookings this way i.e. requested date\time\duration
Q. Asian men?    - Duplicate question, you've already covered this in the 'I see all ages and races bit in the main text'

There are too many FAQ's, your FAQ should be no more than about 6 or 7 questions or it's not going to be read and if it's read the reader will come away thinking you are bossy, preachy or very hard work.

5. Tabs
There are too many, how much attention span do you think most men have when horny?
Drop the Feedback's tab. The Expectations can be condensed in your main page. Incentives tab can go, instead use the pricing on your main page to keep it clear, simple and consistent.

6. AW Pics
Smile or put on a sexy pout but do anything except a generic 'facebook bathroom mirror pose', use your body more. Sell some sexy. There's a thread on here about sexy poses, have a read through.


The aim is to keep clients interested reading your profile while also conveying to them the key information you need them to know. I looked at your profile and I thought yes she's kind of cute. Then I read your profile and by the time I was finished I was completely put off - and the worst part is I actually like reading.

Offline skittish

Half a days shoot for 250 which is very reasonable for the amount of photos I get at the end.

Make sure you get written permission from the 'photographer' (not CG) for unrestricted self promotion usage.
Also be aware that the photographer will always own the copyright and can use the images for 'any' purpose. Which also means you will have no control of the images of you and CG if the photographer gives her permission to use them.

This may not be an issue but if you wasn't already aware of this it should be considered carefully.

Offline skittish

Bang on S2D if I was an escort I'd pay you to write my profile :thumbsup:

Offline Louise 100% British

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Girly squeal, double exclamation mark!!

YAWN!! Thus is a (punters') forum, I'm a punter and I was expressing my opinion...Miss, I accept that you did not ostensibly start this thread to talk specifically (or ask for tips) about your AW profile or general working practices; however you very quickly were happy to invite comment about, and to engage in conversation along those lines, and have done so throughout the remainder of this thread, be it about your photos, working-name, etc.
 Hmmm...

I never said it wasn't a punters forum- I simply came on here to get some advice. Which you did not give, due to you completely misreading my original post. Like I said I was asking for advertising advice , I.E directories. I knew it was a punters forum, I did say I have tried the escorts forum.
It is my choice about what I charge, like I stated, I am £80 down when I go to London, plus I have my flat in Reading specifically for incalls plus my house to pay for. I am not being insulting to punters saying my rates are fair. It is a fact. You didn't offer any advice, you basically blew me out and said I should drop my rates because of competition. £70 for 30 minutes ALL INCLUSIVE is an average price.


Welcome to London...this is not Reading.  Yes you are very pretty, and yes you have a very nice figure...perhaps that may make you stand out in Reading, it doesn't in London. Your comment "... my prices are all inclusive. Which sort of makes me the same as the 100ph girls..." is both naive, and insulting to a potential punter, and I've already given my thoughts about the way you worded that comment .  There are many girls in this city who are as pretty or prettier than yourself; there are many who have a figure as attractive or more attractive than yours, and they will offer themselves and the same services as yourself for less than £130 p/hr (sometimes considerably less)...When I suggested that I thought you should "think about reviewing your prices" (not that your prices were to [sic] high), it was not to be insulting...I was instead trying to diplomatically point out that you may be facing more stiff competition than perhaps you have been used to.  It is irrelevant what you think your services worth, it is what the market dictates they are worth...I have no desire to see you fail, nor would I take any particular pleasure should that happen...

I never said I was prettier than anywhere else. I don't even use the word sexy or attractive in my profile????
So why you are assuming I think I am better than anyone else is beyond me?!!
I don't feel the need to change my rates, I was £150 an hour when I first started, I have dropped them. £100 would be a significent drop in my wages. Therefore I am not going to change them. I am not going to go outside of my area to earn less, thats a fools game.
 


Pacificist, I am very happy that you had a good punt, and that Louise enjoyed your visit...however it is not simply a case of Louise or EEs at £60 p/h...there is a middle ground, you know... and there many guys like myself who take advantage of and enjoy that middle ground with some very skilled WGs...Louise is potentially excluding herself from that middle ground...

Anyways, my apologies for interrupting this mutual masturbation and ego-stroking session...carry on

How am I excluding myself from this middle ground?? Someone who wants to see me can still see me for £70 and still get a cum twice service if required!! my 45 minutes service is 100. Not a lot of difference really.
I thought I was allowed to post what I have been posting. I haven't been touting in the slightest. I just stuck up for myself when it came to rates!

Offline Louise 100% British

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Ok you've had your 30 seconds of fame so lets now address the profile:

1. Bad intro
The first thing a client will see is your main picture then your opening paragraph. Your opening paragraph is the most important part of your profile. What you put here should be words that compliment your picture or sell whatever idea of you or your service that you want to appeal most to a potential client. If a guy looks at your Intro in it's present form the first thing they will see is some generic babble about a profile picture update? I'm sorry but that needs to go else where. Use the first paragraph to sell yourself. Think of the first paragraph as the 'Why should I give you this job' type question. If you don't sell yourself in those opening first lines the client will very likely move on.



4. Too many FAQ's

I have already changed my faq's when you posted this.

Noted and I will see what I can do with the rest!

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Offline Ludwig


I didn't misread your original post...my first post was in response to your SECOND post:

However I have a place on Edgware road, do you believe that this is a good place for London?

This was not a question about advertising your wares in London; it was a request for tips on how to run your escorting business... - oh Christ, I just can't be arsed...look, if you think my original comment about your prices was in some way an attack on you, your posting and your rates, so be it...


Offline skittish

When I view a profile I usually do it in this order,

View main images
View likes
Check location
View prices
Check a phone number is present
Read FAQ's (I have often made up my mind by this point)

If still interested I read the blurb to see if services offered are consistent with enjoys list.
Check images are not stolen.
If it all adds phone for appointment or further info.
I don't really care for tabs or blogs (I'm lazy) Everything I need to know should be in a succinct intro.


If I was you I would re-read what Sucky2Dollar wrote about FAQ's and consider addressing those, I believe your intro has improved, I don't really remember the original though.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2012, 01:18:58 AM by skittish »

Offline hunnieme

Profile is much improved this morning, glad you got rid of the preachy FAQ . Two points to add, I'd advise you to get your £100 for 45 minutes price in there somewhere-this will help you appeal to the "middle ground" . Also, does the word "available" really need to be abbreviated ??

Offline Louise 100% British

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Profile is much improved this morning, glad you got rid of the preachy FAQ . Two points to add, I'd advise you to get your £100 for 45 minutes price in there somewhere-this will help you appeal to the "middle ground" . Also, does the word "available" really need to be abbreviated ??

So- you think it is easier to read?
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Offline Louise 100% British

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So- you think it is easier to read?
I spent ages putting everything into bold lol!
yes the avail thing wa because I was on normal internet explorer...and never spell it right!
Better to abbreviate than to spell it wrong.
And yes I stuck the 45 minute thing in there to.

Offline James999

. I am on aw and am busy enough on that....

The harsh reality you are clearly doing something wrong, as your profile shows you have been around for nearly 3 years and during that time a good pro$$ie will have built up a good regular client base and AW would add the additional booking withouit the need to advertise elsewhere   :hi:

A few decent pictures on your profile may be a start though  :wackogirl:

Offline Louise 100% British

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The harsh reality you are clearly doing something wrong, as your profile shows you have been around for nearly 3 years and during that time a good pro$$ie will have built up a good regular client base and AW would add the additional booking withouit the need to advertise elsewhere   :hi:

Nope- look at the views on my profile. You can see it was inactive!
Whislt I was pregnant I didn't work!
I do have a very regular client base, but I can't have all my eggs in one basket- I have been renting my incall place for a while now,
so it will be time to move on soon!
There is nothing wrong with trying to work other areas a few days a week. Limited availability in a town is a good thing!

Offline Louise 100% British

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And I wasn't saying I was quiet.
I am not quiet. Touch wood.
I was curious about London is all  :)

Offline James999

Well you seem to "know all the answers" so why ask us, and why arn't you busy  :sarcastic:

Girls generally "tour when they can't get work  :hi:

Offline Louise 100% British

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Well you seem to "know all the answers" so why ask us, and why arn't you busy  :sarcastic:

Girls generally "tour when they can't get work  :hi:

I am not paticularly touring- I am going to be regular in London. I have found a flat there to work from on Edgware road.
I find if I am in Reading, I tend to finish work early- and don't tend to take the late night bookings, because I go home early.
However, when I am elsewhere I work later- if that makes sence.
I just assumed that since London is such a big place that there must be other advertising places other than adultwork.
I was asking for a view for advertising, but everyone started commenting on how to improve my profile, and I have taken all advice and altered it.

Offline James999


I just assumed that since London is such a big place that there must be other advertising places

« Last Edit: December 01, 2012, 10:33:26 AM by James999 »

Offline hunnieme

Yes it's much better although I would take the advice on the tone of your answers to the FAQs . One thing I really like on your profile is the idea of an overnighter in the day ! A simple idea but one I'd never seen on a profile before, so good for you on that , and for the changes you've made .

Pacificist, I am very happy that you had a good punt, and that Louise enjoyed your visit...however it is not simply a case of Louise or EEs at £60 p/h...there is a middle ground, you know... and there many guys like myself who take advantage of and enjoy that middle ground with some very skilled WGs...Louise is potentially excluding herself from that middle ground...

I agree there is a spectrum. There are girls at 60 p/h, 100p/h, 130p/h, 150p/h, 200p/h etc. I'm not foolish enough to suggest price indicates a good service either way, as we all know we can have a shit time at 200p/h and might have a good time at 60. Personally, as i've said i think 130 is good for London as i still see a lot of girls at the 150p/h side and she undercuts them stright away. Does a 100p/h girl therefore undercut her? Perhaps. It's all relative. Different people have different budgets. I agree with your point that London has a lot of competition but i think a girl like Louise who works hard will make herself stand out.

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Yes it's much better although I would take the advice on the tone of your answers to the FAQs . One thing I really like on your profile is the idea of an overnighter in the day ! A simple idea but one I'd never seen on a profile before, so good for you on that , and for the changes you've made .

I have amended it again.
Yes, the overnighters work well as some men think that an overnighter is paying to watch a girl sleep, so I have been reading on here!


Offline James999

Right, whats the reward for all this advice, free Blowies ?  :hi:

Offline Jimmyredcab

Well you seem to "know all the answers" so why ask us, and why arn't you busy  :sarcastic:

Girls generally "tour when they can't get work  :hi:

Agree totally, only desperados need to tour.    :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Offline finn5555

Agree totally, only desperados need to tour.    :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Very true if a pro$$ie is good then she won't need to go hunting new gullible punters

Offline hunnieme

I really don't agree with this generalisation . There are a couple of girls on my hotlist that are fit as you like that are constantly touring and have tons of good feedback . Maybe they just live in sleepy villages and would rather tour than move ?


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