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Author Topic: Price Increases, what's your views ??  (Read 1820 times)

Offline Rod trotter

So you would pay cos you want to??

Can you see how hypocritcal that is Anth?

I rest my case :hi:
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Offline Looking4fun

Yes, but I would moan like hell about it :)

Probably one of the reasons why she chose to run off in the first place I guess, as I did that last time. It is just the case that I am not no Denyason with money to flash around willy-nilly trying to impress.  I am frugal with everything in life as a punt takes a lot out of my monthly income.

Plus to compound this I foolishly believed the hype a couple of months back and paid £150 for an hour thinking it would be better punt to cheer me up after a few disasters before it. And it was a completely bland mediocre punt. So price does not mean more equals getting better service.

I took a good month out from the forums so missed it all so I cannot. But my understanding was Summer was on Allures books?

But I can say it seems Ruby and Scarlett have done this in the last week .

*Edit* I will just say, it does seem to the be from the topic so far that I am the only one with any issue with the prospect of the regions general price increases taking place. So will shut up to see if anyone else agrees with me on this. As I am kind of surprised I am the only one perturbed by this prospect to be honest.

Anth summer never worked for allure she used to work in Stockton , ruby & Scarlett are coming to the north east because they know they'll get more business in the Newcastle area,
I'm not saying I'm over the moon about prices going up, far from it but you'll never stop punters punting, you can't call a strike mate

Offline Looking4fun

Hey again everyone!
I have noticed a recent thread regarding myself and @xScarlettx and our decision to join premium escorts. Someone said this is due to premium escorts prices. Can I just say this is not true. I actually charge £10 more indie. I chose to work with @juney at premium-escorts purely for the fact that we did want to continue working for an agency and June was extremely friendly, professional and caring. If I didn't want to work for an agency or was worried about prices then I'd just stay indie. My prices will be LOWER when I start at premium on the 20th. Sorry for the little rant but just wanted to defend myself, my friend and a fab agency xxx
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Offline AnthG

So you would pay cos you want to??

Can you see how hypocritcal that is Anth?

I rest my case :hi:
Ok one more post :)

It is more so just a case of you picked the one sole girl that breaks any and all rules for me. For any other girl, literally, I would refuse. You just picked the one, and only one, in my entire punting career that breaks any and all personal rules.

Like you said yourself in another topic, at Christmas time that particular girl messed me over more than most punters ever could have been by a WG. And it's a case of, if she came back to work tomorrow. I would rebook in an instant in full knowledge of this and not care. If any other girl did to me what she did. I would have been seething mad furious.

So I don't think its hypocritical. Just completely sad-bastardy on my behalf as I kind of have an Achilles heel when it comes to that one girl which I fully admit to :)

Plus to say one final time. All I am saying is have a brief stint of not booking to show as punters we are not happy.

The junior doctors are having regular one-day strikes as they do not want to accept lower wages. The doctors are not quitting as doctors. They are just saying, one day per month we won't come into work solely to show we are not happy.

If every punter in the North East section of UKP said right for one week we all agree we won't book these overpriced girls. A message would be given to them that we are not happy. Yes the individual girls would just say "fine that week I will go on holiday". But the agencies won't, it will hit the agencies and they will see we aren't happy and maybe put it back.

Maybe its a completely mad fucking idea from me. I do not know. Possibly tomorrow I will look back at my post and cringe. But its an idea to try and tackle the issue of punters being stiffed. The whole way brainstorming works is ideas are suggested until a good one comes along. This is mine. Maybe someone else can think of something else better.

Oh forget to mention the extra money premium charges goes to the girls mate, this was confirmed by 2 of the ladies I've seen, that's why she's attracting new & established ladies to the agency

Hey again everyone!
I have noticed a recent thread regarding myself and @xScarlettx and our decision to join premium escorts. Someone said this is due to premium escorts prices. Can I just say this is not true. I actually charge £10 more indie. I chose to work with @juney at premium-escorts purely for the fact that we did want to continue working for an agency and June was extremely friendly, professional and caring. If I didn't want to work for an agency or was worried about prices then I'd just stay indie. My prices will be LOWER when I start at premium on the 20th. Sorry for the little rant but just wanted to defend myself, my friend and a fab agency xxx
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Also with regards to this. And to say, I do not know if this is true. I am just saying what I have just been told by PM by someone just now in response to this topic. And also to say, I am just raising this as it goes against the whole excuse/justification of the price increases. But it seems the same amount goes to the girl out of the £50 at Allure as what goes out of the £60 from Premium. It seems Allure chose to drop their cut of the money they get to compete as opposed to (my fears) of them possibly upping their overall prices to compete. If that's true, I have to admit that is pretty good. And hope Amour do the same too (they likely will, or should if they don't). So no justification in terms of the girls for the price increases at the agencies!
« Last Edit: April 12, 2016, 09:19:02 PM by AnthG »

Offline Rod trotter

That's my feel for it as well Tiger, I did once pay £ 130, but whilst she was good, wasn't better than £ 100 girl, so never went back. So like you I have got a ceiling of £ 60 / 30 mins & £ 120 / hr which I just won't go over.


This.i just couldnt pay more tbh
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Offline sqlbatsman

Sounds to me like Anth is talking on behalf of us the punters, but for some reason everyone just wants to shoot him down and support the price increases  :unknown:

If you think someone is great quality today at £60 (and they were only charging £50 last week) and if they increase the price to £70/hh in 4 months time and other girls follows suit, is it correct that there will all still be guys here defending that £70/hh rate is reasonable?

You are still getting the same excellent service you were getting, but paying £20 more for it than you did 8 months ago. Provided you have a punting budget, lets say £300 a month for example, your 6 half hour punts every month with your favourite girl has just been reduced to 4 half hour punts. So you the punter have had to forcefully reduce your punts, but the girl is still making the same dough, maybe more. Something not quite right about that, not sure how people think that it is acceptable.

I'm of-course talking to those on a punting budget (majority), not the ones with deep pockets who have no need for a budget (small minority).

I suppose it's a case of supply and demand ,,, if,the price hikes up punters will opt for another agency who hasn't moved there price ,,, 

When you look at the bigger picture  if agency's move there price up ,, and the lack of customers is reflected in,this  surelly most punters will go to the ones that offer value for money

I am lucky in that all those who I personally consider to be the must see girls at the moment are all at £50/£100.

Francesca - Amour
Jenny/kiara  Same price Agency or Independent
Amelia - Amour
Mia - Independent
Keeva - Independent


I pushed the boat out for Ruby and don't regret a penny of it. Terrific, but her indie prices would have been a put off in the future considering the above so glad her agency prices will be less.

I guess the main agency prices of £50/100 have been in effect for for a good many years so if £60/120 does become the norm I won't complain. But would need to be something special to tempt me above that, at least on a regular basis.

Offline Looking4fun

I've said this a few times already on other threads, I go for the girl don't care what agency she works for or wether shes indie, I also pay the price that I'm comfortable with
My most expensive solo booking was Jade heart £130 for a brilliant hour

Offline Mansell

Interesting replies so far.

As L4F says above I also go for the specific girl and will book whichever way I have to so I can see her, ie Aw or Agency.
My most expensive was also Jade Heart and whilst she was good, as I said I didn't rate her above the £ 100 girls at the time so didn't go back. But as Anth has said each to our own personal preference.

One aspect of this is working premises and it does seem to be difficult to get and afford good premises these days, certainly the cost of rent in general has gone up over the last 10 years, so has this been the driving force behind girls charging more ? I think it has been a contributing factor, you see them struggling to find somewhere to work as indie, which is why the likes of Diamonds is so popular for the newer girls. Have a read on UKE, there have been quiet a lot of NE girls trying to get premises to be able to go indie, but struggling to find them.

It might be worth paying a bit more to make sure we keep the good girls? Mind I do wish a certain punter hadn't moaned quiet so much about £ 5   :dash: :dash: :dash: we could have had a 10% increase to £ 55, not 20% to £ 60


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Offline AnthG

Mind I do wish a certain punter hadn't moaned quiet so much about £ 5   :dash: :dash: :dash: we could have had a 10% increase to £ 55, not 20% to £ 60

+100

And we missed the perfect chance of coming off as fucking hero's to the girls from it. :)

As seriously think of it. The booking rate is £55. But if you went to the cash machine in a dash and could only get £60 and just went to the punt with it. You could then possibly twist it as some smooth talking and say to the girl something like. "Wow, You are so pretty, I will tell you what, here is £60 instead".

Girl is like to herself "Oh that is so nice, he has paid me more than my rate as I am so pretty. I will give him 100% effort in this booking as a result of that. He is so nice for that"

It is the little things in life that work. And that £5 was the best bargaining chip we ever had of securing a good punt from making it be a little subtle compliment to the girl by claiming you are paying that extra just to her. And not because that is what the cash machine just gave out and we didn't have time to get change.

But now it's like,

Punter: "You are so pretty I will pay you £60"
Girl: "Well saying this is my fucking rate, you had better do or you're out the bloody door"
« Last Edit: April 12, 2016, 11:42:11 PM by AnthG »

Interesting views and comments so far considering I had only made an observation on a ladies positive review that she had just increased her rate by 20% to £60 per half hour. Thanks to Mansell for opening this thread, far better we discuss the issue as a separate topic rather than on the review that had been posted.

Can I also say to AnthG, you are not alone in fearing that the current trend of the increase in rates in the North East becoming the norm, it was really the reason I made the observation last night. It wasn't a criticism of the lady concerned in the review but was just the continuation of Agencies and Independents increasing their rates with no additional benefit to us guys so far this year. Just a case of this is our new rate, pay it and get the same service, or elect not too, and go elsewhere or without.

I actually think that some of AnthG's suggestions have some merit, we are all in the same boat and can work together rather than try and score points off each other, and for us just to continue booking the ladies who have increased their rates is just blind acceptance of their price hike. Of the Agencies, I personally only use Amour and Allure simply because Diamonds, Premium and Gracies charge more, but that is my choice. If everyone did that then the girls at the latter three Agencies would be asking questions of their representatives and we might see their rates fall, but it won't happen and the greater prospect and fear would be that Amour and Allure increase their rates.

Something in this hobby of ours that I have learnt and from comments other guys have experienced too is that 'price doesn't mean or guarantee quality' and I like a lot of guys will visit the lady of my choice,we all have different preferences and tastes and fortunately the North East does provide an excellent selection. Personally I'm not too bothered where the extra money goes too when these rates go up, be it to the girl, the agency, the landlord or their pimp, the simple fact that matters to me is I'M PAYING MORE. I made that observation last night as I thought it a pity that one of the most popular escorts in the North East had raised her rate, 'cheap as chips' was her expression to me, but she does have a tremendous following and I'm sure many other escorts view her popularity with envy but also see her maybe as a market leader and will in turn be tempted to increase their prices too.

With a substantial client base that particular young lady may well reap the benefits of her increase in rate, or be afforded the luxury of working less hours but retain the same level of income, but my concern is that others will see that and think they can charge the same. I was recently in dialogue with a lady at Diamonds who had just increased her rate from £50 to £60 and I pointed out that as she worked just 4 hrs a day, if she found herself without a booking for more than a 45 minute period in the day and that inactivity was attributed to her increased rate, then she would have been better off maintaining her rate at £50 and being busy throughout the period of time she was working that day. My maths fell on stony ground with her, we didn't meet, but she can't of been busy that day as she was sending me emails at regular intervals throughout a period of an hour, so logic doesn't work with the ladies..

So just in case anyone is in any doubt, my flag is nailed to that mast that says opposed to these increases. What about an Agency though who may currently charge £60 per half hour who decide that they have some exceptional ladies or very popular ladies and decide to form a two tier structure, you know a Basic and a VIP service and so they introduce a £70 rate or more. We have already shown our acceptance of their £60 rate by continuing to use them so why not £70 or more, it would give their girls in the Basic category something to aim for, and maybe improve their service. But where do we draw the line? Would we still support an Agency with such a policy? They would promote their innovation which in truth would be nothing more than a means of increasing their prices further.

In my observation on the ladies review last night I did comment that I would go and see my MD about my getting a 20% increase for doing the same job and only working the same hours as I had done this last year. He suggested I go back to my desk keep my head down and lie low, I said that would now cost me £60 a half hour, don't know why but he didn't see the funny side.

Offline Rod trotter


So you guys are on strike then  :hi:

Good luck
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Offline sqlbatsman

One aspect of this is working premises and it does seem to be difficult to get and afford good premises these days, certainly the cost of rent in general has gone up over the last 10 years, so has this been the driving force behind girls charging more ? I think it has been a contributing factor, you see them struggling to find somewhere to work as indie, which is why the likes of Diamonds is so popular for the newer girls. Have a read on UKE, there have been quiet a lot of NE girls trying to get premises to be able to go indie, but struggling to find them.

Interesting point, as pretty sure if I was a landlord (I'm not b.t.w.) for a premises used by these girls, then I would want to hike up my rent 20-30% or maybe even more. Why would I not want to profit from them, especially if they are popular. It is following the ethos of a capitalistic economy, you rub my back and I rub yours.

Unfortunately though, while the landlord and the girl (& even the pimp/agency) profit as a result of this, it is us the poor punters that end up on the losing side.  :(

I understand some will see the girls as irreplaceable and totally worth the new price. But don't mention this here in the forum or to them. Protest in any small way you can. Only this will show that price increases are not taken lightly by the punters. If not anything this will make them think 100 times next time they want to hike up the prices. But the fact that we just accept and move on, will only give them leverage to do this again in near future.

One popular girl recently reduced her prices to 50/100 from 60/120. I'm guessing it was due to lack of custom and not out of her genuine care for the punters wellbeing  :unknown:


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Offline AnthG

So you guys are on strike then  :hi:

Good luck

I am genuinely curious. Do you have any ideas of what punters could do to try to tackle the standard price for a punt increasing in the region?

Offline Tiger63

Does anyone know if any of TTs Hebburn friends also had a price increase ?

Offline AnthG

What about an Agency though who may currently charge £60 per half hour who decide that they have some exceptional ladies or very popular ladies and decide to form a two tier structure, you know a Basic and a VIP service and so they introduce a £70 rate or more. We have already shown our acceptance of their £60 rate by continuing to use them so why not £70 or more, it would give their girls in the Basic category something to aim for, and maybe improve their service. But where do we draw the line? Would we still support an Agency with such a policy? They would promote their innovation which in truth would be nothing more than a means of increasing their prices further.

But do you honestly think any working girl in the lower category would start thinking to herself "oh I better up my game here".

No what will happen is she will be utterly convinced she is just as good as those other girls. She will think she is being victimized for some obscure reason nothing to do with her booking performance and she will start getting all catty and all hell will break loose from the in-fighting that will erupt.

It is truly the case of Punters losing a tenner is considered 'just fine'. But try having an agency take an extra tenner off a WG, any WG, it would make the six o'clock news the bitch fighting that would erupt would be so bad. And I think everyone knows this would happen.

One aspect of this is working premises and it does seem to be difficult to get and afford good premises these days, certainly the cost of rent in general has gone up over the last 10 years, so has this been the driving force behind girls charging more ? I think it has been a contributing factor, you see them struggling to find somewhere to work as indie, which is why the likes of Diamonds is so popular for the newer girls. Have a read on UKE, there have been quiet a lot of NE girls trying to get premises to be able to go indie, but struggling to find them.

Come on, if this was all due to their rent increasing on their incall flat that is thus being passed onto us then why is it also a case do those girls who have all upped their rates also have upped their outcall rates by the same percentage too? Petrol money has gone done quite considerably in the last year not gone up!

And plus rent increasing? Seriously! So this means £10 more per punt gets passed on to the punters. How much extra rent are these girls paying? As do the math. If these girls just see (what they all claim) 3 punter per day for working 3 days per week. That is £360 per month extra they are earning.

If your landlord suddenly said "right that's it, start of next month I am putting your rent up by £360 per month extra" any person on this planet would say, "aye right then, I am leaving then, bye, good luck finding someone to rent this place".

Plus while I am on it. I do not believe the whole "I chose to join Juney as she is so nice and friendly, kind and supportive and it just happened to be the case of she runs the most expensive agency in Newcastle" blurb that every girl seems to want to give over why they joined Premium. As if that is the case, why didn't you all join her when she jointly run Allure? According to L4F in this topic none of the girls on Premium switched from Allure. So they have all joined fresh when she setup this agency and didn't join her at Allure.

That response is literally like you do in job interviews when the interviewer says "so why did you leave your last job" or "what interests you in joining us". You give some blurb that you think the interviewer wants to hear and not the real reasons of "because of the money" and "I left because I was about to be sacked". 

Look my stance is, Premium seems like a very nice agency. I also love the layout of their website, and the photos on it are superb too. Its easily my favourite layout of the big four. And also from seeing her posts and chatting with her briefly, June does seem quite a nice person. But it would be nice if the prices could go down to £50/£100 like the other agencies in the region. As she has gained the startup rep she needed and got girls to join. There is no need to keep them at the 'startup rate'

And while on the subject. Diamonds, those girls who get to choose their rates. Choose them at £50/£100 as you for definite are not paying higher rent than those girls on £50/£100 which given "rent increases" is being given as the sole justification now for these price increases, that clearly doesn't apply to Diamonds.

Does anyone know if any of TTs Hebburn friends also had a price increase ?

Dionne has went up by a fiver to £55 for 30 and £105 for an hour. (But even with this has it down that 'X £50 FOR 30 MINS, LIMITED TIME ONLY!! **'

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« Last Edit: April 13, 2016, 08:46:48 AM by AnthG »


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Offline baresi

Anth have you got a wall chart with all the agencies listed in different colours and the girls who work for them with their rota's and prices, obviously with some sort of cross referencing system whereby you can see who they used to work and what they used to charge ?

Offline chesterlad

60 for 30 mins - 120 for 60 mins - seems about the going rate, obviously a few will be higher some will be lower - but this seems about average.
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Offline AnthG

Anth have you got a wall chart with all the agencies listed in different colours and the girls who work for them with their rota's and prices, obviously with some sort of cross referencing system whereby you can see who they used to work and what they used to charge ?

No I just have a very good memory.

Like I said in my post above I still remember to this day the first VHS that implemented the RRP price increases for them almost 30 years later and all the furor it caused at the time.

I still remember this ad campaign on it from the time too

https://youtu.be/HAvzrnyyHEQ

Offline Looking4fun

Anthg if you can't afford to punt, don't do it mate.
Continually rabbitting on about prices isn't going to change them, you were quite happy to pay the price for Vicky who you believed to be in her 20's,  so one rule for you & Vicky & one for all the wg's & punters
Do you realise how hypocritical your being ffs

Offline rugger35

After a couple of crap punts and being mucked about by an agency I am paying I bit more for my next punt but at least it's with a lass I know will produce the goods.

Offline AnthG

Anthg if you can't afford to punt, don't do it mate.
Continually rabbitting on about prices isn't going to change them, you were quite happy to pay the price for Vicky who you believed to be in her 20's,  so one rule for you & Vicky & one for all the wg's & punters
Do you realise how hypocritical your being ffs

But did you see my post on UKE - this is getting confusing jumping between the forums by the way.

I wasn't happy and paid the reduced rate as soon as possible. I also told her I would see her once per month due to her prices as opposed to once per fortnight.

So it is not the case like you suggest I was happily handing over the money with a smile on my face for paying more. I liked that particular girl so I paid it as I had no choice to. But I did what I could subtly suggest it should be lower - which she then dropped.

I am also again not calling for a boycott of any girls charging too much. As this topic was kind of aimed at the agency's anyway too. Which I also said I wasn't calling for a full on boycott of them either.

I truly do find it odd why people are jumping on this one small issue to purposefully try and ruin the whole argument of why the standard price for the region going up would be bad.

you were quite happy to pay the price for Vicky who you believed to be in her 20's

Also from this it seems to be you are intimating you knew she was actually in her 30s? If so this would be news to me, big style, as she told me repeatedly she was 26 and her 27th birthday was February just gone (2016). So my question is if so. How do you know this for one, and how old was she for two? And for third do you know this for definite or is it just a rumour.  I really am extremely curious on this if she really was in her 30s and by how much in her 30s if so. Really curious.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2016, 11:12:05 AM by AnthG »


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Offline Mansell

+100

And we missed the perfect chance of coming off as fucking hero's to the girls from it. :)

As seriously think of it. The booking rate is £55. But if you went to the cash machine in a dash and could only get £60 and just went to the punt with it. You could then possibly twist it as some smooth talking and say to the girl something like. "Wow, You are so pretty, I will tell you what, here is £60 instead".

Girl is like to herself "Oh that is so nice, he has paid me more than my rate as I am so pretty. I will give him 100% effort in this booking as a result of that. He is so nice for that"

It is the little things in life that work. And that £5 was the best bargaining chip we ever had of securing a good punt from making it be a little subtle compliment to the girl by claiming you are paying that extra just to her. And not because that is what the cash machine just gave out and we didn't have time to get change.

But now it's like,

Punter: "You are so pretty I will pay you £60"
Girl: "Well saying this is my fucking rate, you had better do or you're out the bloody door"

Great post Anth, exactly right and what I was thinking. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Mind the rest of the time you use 1000 words when 50 would do  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Offline Mansell

Interesting point, as pretty sure if I was a landlord (I'm not b.t.w.) for a premises used by these girls, then I would want to hike up my rent 20-30% or maybe even more. Why would I not want to profit from them, especially if they are popular. It is following the ethos of a capitalistic economy, you rub my back and I rub yours.

Unfortunately though, while the landlord and the girl (& even the pimp/agency) profit as a result of this, it is us the poor punters that end up on the losing side.  :(

I understand some will see the girls as irreplaceable and totally worth the new price. But don't mention this here in the forum or to them. Protest in any small way you can. Only this will show that price increases are not taken lightly by the punters. If not anything this will make them think 100 times next time they want to hike up the prices. But the fact that we just accept and move on, will only give them leverage to do this again in near future.

One popular girl recently reduced her prices to 50/100 from 60/120. I'm guessing it was due to lack of custom and not out of her genuine care for the punters wellbeing  :unknown:

You make good points, but what I was really talking about was the change in flat rental over the last 10 years whilst the WG's rate has stayed at 50/100. Eventually something has to give and maybe we have reached that time. I haven't seen any brand new BMW's parked outside WG's flats ??




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