Lucia_ or x Sensual Carmen x - South Kensington

[tocomocho]

I think there is something strange with this girl.

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She have change the name on adultwork for "x Sensual Carmen x".

Try to meet with her, she told me to meet up a South Kensinton station (with lot of people, not the best place to see a person you don't know) , I arrived at the station and she sent me a text telling me she was coming 5min late, after waiting for 30min and whatching all the people in the station every minute to try to identify her, she sent me a text telling me that she is back home because she was at the station and didn't see me...

Time waster and possible fake profile.

[vw]

Imagine you had a lucky escape

£400 per hour for a barebacker with no feedback.

thank the punting gods she fucked you about !

[tantric talents]

Amended profile now sounds like a different girl!
Even £250 with no Owo or cim etc sounds like a joke!
Perhaps she's a party girl and was high on something when she wrote this   

[Tony17]

I should have written a review on this, but I can confirm that Carmen is an genuine, amazing girl. It's been a few weeks since I saw her, but she was absolutely lovely. Great body, extremely pretty and very sweet. I'm thinking of going back in May, it's just the price is a bit steep.

[PLeisure]

I should have written a review on this

So do it - Nothing's stopping you...... 

[tocomocho]

Not very polite and professional girl, she came late, i waited for 30 min and finally didn't turn up, and instead of apologise and tell me to arrange another meeting she said i wasted her time... I travelled 45min, and wait for her at the station for 30min...

[Tony17]

Life got in the way, but I just wrote one on Amazing Lidia. I'll try and review Carmen soon.

[Cunning Punt]

£400 per hour for a barebacker with no feedback.

How do you work out she is a barebacker? I would doubt it, given she doesn't even seem to do OWO.
She has a couple of previous positive feedback on here, plus other posts, and a lot on AW.

She seems to be an actual escort.
As mentioned, she is down from £400 to £250ph but still way too expensive and her conduct with the OP was rather pathetic - who demands they meet an unknown punter at a busy London station FFS?

[tocomocho]

How do you work out she is a barebacker? I would doubt it, given she doesn't even seem to do OWO.
She has a couple of previous positive feedback on here, plus other posts, and a lot on AW.

She seems to be an actual escort.
As mentioned, she is down from £400 to £250ph but still way too expensive and her conduct with the OP was rather pathetic - who demands they meet an unknown punter at a busy London station FFS?

She said she wanted to meet at the station for her safety, and when she was coming she also said wasn't bringing her phone, it makes no sense at all...

[Tony17]

I did find that a bit strange actually, she did the same for me and didn't bring her phone. Which made it quite annoying as there's multiple entrances to SE tube station. I don't know why she doesn't bring her phone, as she's probably lost so much business from lost punters who haven't been able to find her.

[PLeisure]

I did find that a bit strange actually, she did the same for me and didn't bring her phone. Which made it quite annoying as there's multiple entrances to SE tube station. I don't know why she doesn't bring her phone, as she's probably lost so much business from lost punters who haven't been able to find her.

Bizarre. So how does she recognise her 'man'? Or she waits for you to approach her.

cheers for the review, btw 

[earlgreyman]

Her methods sound real dodgy, but I guess there's a certain (weird) logic to them if you think about it.

My guess is that she doesn't bring her phone so she can spy on her would-be punter without getting spotted/caught out by him non-stop ringing/answering the phone to find out where she is. This is probably the way she vets her clients from a safe distance in a busy and safe area before she approaches. She obviously a very cautious lady. Understandable, i guess, but a little neurotic.

Interesting to hear about this one. I for one shall be crossing her off my HL.

[Cunning Punt]

Her methods sound real dodgy, but I guess there's a certain (weird) logic to them if you think about it.

My guess is that she doesn't bring her phone so she can spy on her would-be punter without getting spotted/caught out by him non-stop ringing/answering the phone to find out where she is. This is probably the way she vets her clients from a safe distance in a busy and safe area before she approaches. She obviously a very cautious lady. Understandable, i guess, but a little neurotic.

Interesting to hear about this one. I for one shall be crossing her off my HL.

Not sure how she could be sure for absolute certainty about what the client looks like if she doesn't have phone. If she doesn't like the look of the person she assumes is the punter, then she could just leave and give the sort of bullshit she gave the OP, which means a wasted journey and that's what might have happened.

So not really understandable. Sounds a bit of a timewaster to me.

[tocomocho]

Not sure how she could be sure for absolute certainty about what the client looks like if she doesn't have phone. If she doesn't like the look of the person she assumes is the punter, then she could just leave and give the sort of bullshit she gave the OP, which means a wasted journey and that's what might have happened.

So not really understandable. Sounds a bit of a timewaster to me.

I sent her a pic before the meeting. But in this case what really annoy me is that that I accepted all her strange requirements to meet and i travelled 45min and another 45min return and waited for her 30min inside the station with a lot of people, i wasted 2 hours, and the girl instead of apologise and try to arrange another meeting, she told me i wasted her time and blocked me on whatsapp...

[Cunning Punt]

Yes, I knew how you recognised her, but was wondering about the other way round.

I sent her a pic before the meeting

Really? That answers it. The information about her MO is gradually ekeing out.

Not sure I would send an escort my picture. 

Did she request this of you then so she could recognise you, or did you offer to do this?

[tocomocho]

Yes, I knew how you recognised her, but was wondering about the other way round.

Really? That answers it. The information about her MO is gradually ekeing out.

Not sure I would send an escort my picture. 

Did she request this of you then so she could recognise you, or did you offer to do this?

I didn't offer her my pic, she requested it because i didn't have any feedback on adultwork.

[Ectoplasm19]

I spoke to her on the Phone yesterday she seemed pretty legit to me.

[Lucia_]

Sorry I know you guys hate girls posting on here, but I feel like I have to step in and explain myself. If anyone that I meet from Adultwork were to rape, rob or attack me, I could report them to the police and they would be able to track them down from their Adultwork account. If the punter doesn't have one, I would ask for a face picture, so that if I did have to report them to the police, they could be easily identified. Also I hope that this method would deter those kinds of people from meeting me, for fear of getting caught. My second requirement is to meet them inside South Kensington tube station (which is my nearest tube station). This is because I know that there is CCTV inside the tube station, and also on the route to mine, which would provide evidence that I'd met the punter if I had to report them to the police. The reason why I don't take my phone with me, is because I've been mugged in broad daylight by someone that I met off Adultwork before. Although my phone's relatively new, its been playing up and for some reason my iCloud won't back up any more, so I can't afford to lose it as I'll loose all my contacts along with it. I always notify the punter of this before meeting them, and arrange a specific place to meet them inside the station, by one of the exits. I also offer to give directions on how to get to that specific exit if they are unsure, so that everything is very clear. Before setting off, I also provide the punter with a description of what I'm wearing, so that they can easily recognise me. I get a lot of no shows, so if they haven't turned up within 10/15 minutes I'll leave. With regards to my previous negative comments, I can assure you that I was there so I can't understand where the confusion came from, as I feel that I made things very clear and easy to understand. I've never turned down a client, as I feel that there is always a certain quality that I attractive about someone, so this isn't so that I can check the guy out beforehand    The only thing that puts me off is when they smell bad My username used to be Lucia_ as I set up my account in a bit of a rush. I was inexperienced and didn't know what to write in my profile description, but now I've rewritten it, got a better username, and updated my pics in the hope to give it a bit of a facelift. I hope this helps! 

[Lucia_]

oh and I definitely do not do bareback!

[tocomocho]

Sorry I know you guys hate girls posting on here, but I feel like I have to step in and explain myself. If anyone that I meet from Adultwork were to rape, rob or attack me, I could report them to the police and they would be able to track them down from their Adultwork account. If the punter doesn't have one, I would ask for a face picture, so that if I did have to report them to the police, they could be easily identified. Also I hope that this method would deter those kinds of people from meeting me, for fear of getting caught. My second requirement is to meet them inside South Kensington tube station (which is my nearest tube station). This is because I know that there is CCTV inside the tube station, and also on the route to mine, which would provide evidence that I'd met the punter if I had to report them to the police. The reason why I don't take my phone with me, is because I've been mugged in broad daylight by someone that I met off Adultwork before. Although my phone's relatively new, its been playing up and for some reason my iCloud won't back up any more, so I can't afford to lose it as I'll loose all my contacts along with it. I always notify the punter of this before meeting them, and arrange a specific place to meet them inside the station, by one of the exits. I also offer to give directions on how to get to that specific exit if they are unsure, so that everything is very clear. Before setting off, I also provide the punter with a description of what I'm wearing, so that they can easily recognise me. I get a lot of no shows, so if they haven't turned up within 10/15 minutes I'll leave. With regards to my previous negative comments, I can assure you that I was there so I can't understand where the confusion came from, as I feel that I made things very clear and easy to understand. I've never turned down a client, as I feel that there is always a certain quality that I attractive about someone, so this isn't so that I can check the guy out beforehand    The only thing that puts me off is when they smell bad My username used to be Lucia_ as I set up my account in a bit of a rush. I was inexperienced and didn't know what to write in my profile description, but now I've rewritten it, got a better username, and updated my pics in the hope to give it a bit of a facelift. I hope this helps! 

That's fine, but when someone is going to meeting you and accept all your requirements but for some reason he can't find you at the station (with 200 persons), you shouldn't tell him he wasted your time, because that guy is travelling further than you, and at least you should try to resolve the issue with respect.

[Cunning Punt]

Taking security measures are all very well and up to an escort, but as this a punters' forum, I feel obliged to give some advice to fellow punters.

As a general principle, for the safety and privacy of punters, I would strongly advise them NEVER to send an escort their picture - unless they are ready to seriously risk them and their 'hobby' to be exposed.

If an escort is alternatively prepared to accept bookings via AW, then I would suggest punters do that - it's not hard to set up an account and get a bit of feedback.
 
However, Lucia's MO creates the problem that the OP has stated ie looking for a needle in haystack:

That's fine, but when someone is going to meeting you and accept all your requirements but for some reason he can't find you at the station (with 200 persons), you shouldn't tell him he wasted your time, because that guy is travelling further than you, and at least you should try to resolve the issue with respect.

I think escorts often fail to appreciate that many punters do a couple of hours total travelling and an incomplete meeting is costly in time and expense.

If the OP is willing, Lucia, I suggest you offer him a heavily discounted future meeting - and sort out a method of meeting that's more failsafe.

[Lucia_]

In response to tochomocho:

You haven't included the reason why you couldn't find me, which was because you turned up half an hour late. It was unlikely that I would have waited there for you for that long. Let's be fair, South Kensington is a small station - 200 people is an exaggeration. I gave you directions to exactly where I would be standing, and description of what I was wearing. You also know I what I look like from my pictures on Adultwork, so surely if you had have been there when I was, it wouldn't have been that difficult to spot me. I'm sorry that you travelled so far, but you have to take into account that if you turn up that late, especially without giving me any notice, then I might not always be able to accommodate as I may have other bookings. If you'd have let me know that you were running late beforehand, I would have happily rescheduled, but you didn't, which put me off. You then went on to accuse me of wasting your time, to which I responded that you had actually wasted my time, which I still think is a fair statement, as I waited at the station for nothing.

[Lucia_]

 think escorts often fail to appreciate that many punters do a couple of hours total travelling and an incomplete meeting is costly in time and expense.

If the OP is willing, Lucia, I suggest you offer him a heavily discounted future meeting - and sort out a method of meeting that's more failsafe.

I'd consider that if we were both there and he genuinely couldn't find me, but that wasn't the case. Please see my above reply, where I have explained the whole situation.

[tocomocho]

In response to tochomocho:

You haven't included the reason why you couldn't find me, which was because you turned up half an hour late. It was unlikely that I would have waited there for you for that long. Let's be fair, South Kensington is a small station - 200 people is an exaggeration. I gave you directions to exactly where I would be standing, and description of what I was wearing. You also know I what I look like from my pictures on Adultwork, so surely if you had have been there when I was, it wouldn't have been that difficult to spot me. I'm sorry that you travelled so far, but you have to take into account that if you turn up that late, especially without giving me any notice, then I might not always be able to accommodate as I may have other bookings. If you'd have let me know that you were running late beforehand, I would have happily rescheduled, but you didn't, which put me off. You then went on to accuse me of wasting your time, to which I responded that you had actually wasted my time, which I still think is a fair statement, as I waited at the station for nothing.

I didn't arrive late, actually you told me you were coming 10 min late and I told you no problem. When you left I told you to arrange another meeting and you reply NO, because I wasted your time...

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[Lucia_]

If you want to lie that's up to you. I won't post pics of the text evidence on here, as I respect your privacy, but you're quite welcome to if you're so sure that that's the case.

[tocomocho]

I didn't arrive late, actually you told me you were coming 10 min late and I told you no problem. When you left I told you to arrange another meeting and you reply NO, because I wasted your time...

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[tocomocho]

If you want to lie that's up to you. I won't post pics of the text evidence on here, as I respect your privacy, but you're quite welcome to if you're so sure that that's the case.

Lie? the screenshot is quite clear. You can post my messages here, i don't mind.

[Lucia_]

Lie? the screenshot is quite clear. You can post my messages here, i don't mind.

I apologise, I thought that it was someone else posting, but I've just checked my messages and I've got you confused with someone else. I got to the station for 5 past, waited there 10/15 minutes and couldn't see you, so I went back home. You then asked to meet me in a more secluded area. I can see why this could have been for practical purposes, but I refused as I wouldn't have felt safe in doing so.

[Lucia_]

I admit in hindsight that it could have been a misunderstanding, but the fact that I went to the station and couldn't see you when you claimed to be there, at a specific place, suggested to me that you either wasn't person in the pictures you sent me or was just a time waster, so you can see why I would have refused to meet you again.

[Cunning Punt]

I'd consider that if we were both there and he genuinely couldn't find me, but that wasn't the case. Please see my above reply, where I have explained the whole situation.

Well, I did read your post and the OP's and the whole situation wasn't explained; it was for a different punter - as you yourself now admit.

I apologise, I thought that it was someone else posting, but I've just checked my messages and I've got you confused with someone else. I got to the station for 5 past, waited there 10/15 minutes and couldn't see you, so I went back home. You then asked to meet me in a more secluded area. I can see why this could have been for practical purposes, but I refused as I wouldn't have felt safe in doing so.

Before posting on here and trying to argue with a genuine punter who has clearly explained the situation, I suggest you are sure of your facts. 

I'd consider that if we were both there and he genuinely couldn't find me, but that wasn't the case.

Well, now you've admitted it was, we'll watch this space. Though, if you stick rigidly to your MO, I can see the exact same thing happening again.

[PLeisure]

Taking into account the WG's reasoning for not being contactable once in the public space, this is a sloppy way to conduct business. Ridiculous 

[nikmeister]

Been following this post closely since Carmen was recently added to my HL but a few things she doesn't do (i.e. OWO, DFK etc ) had her moved down my who to go to next.

Since this review was posted and also the one by Tony17 who was clearly diagnosed with a case of fluffiness, i have been put off Carmen slightly, only thing making me doubt myself is her looks/pics on AW. Having gone through everything said by tocomocho and Lucia_ (aka Carmen) i cannot help but conclude that whatever happened a reply better than "No i am not wasting my time again" would have calm'd the situation.

I completely agree with Cunning, seeing that you (Lucia_) have your incidence mixed up with thinking toco was some other punter (clearly makes me beg to think this is an ongoing issue of you not being able to find punters in the station and them leaving having spent hours to travel). A heavy discounted rate for a future meet and most definitely a better way of meeting.

I think enough has been said/clarified to an extent no more arguing needs to take place and just a solution, we all make mistakes sometimes more than others 

PS: To tackle WGs asking me for my pics, i just have one face pic of mine on my AW which hides enough so im not recognized by close ones but yet shows enough that if you have a pic of mine next to my face you can clearly distinguish it is me. If they are happy to accept that, then it is good if not, i am not risking my livelihood for a few hours of sex.

[nikmeister]

Taking into account the WG's reasoning for not being contactable once in the public space, this is a sloppy way to conduct business. Ridiculous 

P my man, took the words right outta my mouth... 

[Lucia_]

Yes, let's just agree to disagree. Just to clarify, I do offer DFK.

[earlgreyman]

In response to Lucia: you say you've been mugged in broad-daylight before in South Ken by a punter?

Why use an expensive smart phone when meeting clients? If you're adamant to use your iPhone (yes i've seen it in your pics), why not make sure it's insured. If your icloud isn't working properly,  take it straight to the Apple Store Genius bar immediately, they'll be able to figure out the problem (for free). If you have a mac or pc, you can easily back up your device to your computer without the need for icloud. I do understand it's a hassle and that you're fearful of your safety, hence why having a phone on you at all times is far more important. Also, the find my iPhone app is handy should someone nick your phone, because you can trace it and erase it. Android phones have similar apps too.

I do think, it is wise to meet in a public place, especially if you're unsure about your clientele and are lacking in security at your apartment. Why not get a small security camera outside your property? Also notify a friend/colleague when you're with a client. Seems you have those judging from your links on your AW page. Better still, meet at a hotel lobby instead of a busy, tourist filled station.

Your phone is your point of contact for your business, it's also your life line. Meeting without a phone - to me, it just seems an odd M.O considering all your other security measures.

When i punt, I usually take a punting phone with me, this assures that if I do get into a dodgy situation (which luckily so far hasn't happened), I won't lose my £700+ phone, but I'm still able to contact the lady I'm meeting or call the police. Likewise, i think you could do this: buy a cheap Pay&Go burner phone is £20ish at Argos + credit.

Like anyone else, you as a WG have a right to defend yourself even on a 'punters' site, but like others have said, make sure you're correct on the facts, else you will be stood corrected and will quickly put would-be punters off, which I know you don't want to do.

Good luck.

[vw]

Taking into account the WG's reasoning for not being contactable once in the public space, this is a sloppy way to conduct business. Ridiculous 

Yes an absolute spastic, shocked she can dress herself !

Some people are incapable !

Would avoid as i think someone this thick is incapable of giving consent !

[Sonny Crockett]

I think there is something strange with this girl.

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She have change the name on adultwork for "x Sensual Carmen x".

Try to meet with her, she told me to meet up a South Kensinton station (with lot of people, not the best place to see a person you don't know) , I arrived at the station and she sent me a text telling me she was coming 5min late, after waiting for 30min and whatching all the people in the station every minute to try to identify her, she sent me a text telling me that she is back home because she was at the station and didn't see me...

Time waster and possible fake profile.

Sorry to hear about your experience. Deffo a timewaster.

[James999]

Sorry I know you guys hate girls posting on here,

Who told you that?

[Sonny Crockett]

In response to Lucia: you say you've been mugged in broad-daylight before in South Ken by a punter?

Why use an expensive smart phone when meeting clients? If you're adamant to use your iPhone (yes i've seen it in your pics), why not make sure it's insured. If your icloud isn't working properly,  take it straight to the Apple Store Genius bar immediately, they'll be able to figure out the problem (for free). If you have a mac or pc, you can easily back up your device to your computer without the need for icloud. I do understand it's a hassle and that you're fearful of your safety, hence why having a phone on you at all times is far more important. Also, the find my iPhone app is handy should someone nick your phone, because you can trace it and erase it. Android phones have similar apps too.

I do think, it is wise to meet in a public place, especially if you're unsure about your clientele and are lacking in security at your apartment. Why not get a small security camera outside your property? Also notify a friend/colleague when you're with a client. Seems you have those judging from your links on your AW page. Better still, meet at a hotel lobby instead of a busy, tourist filled station.

Your phone is your point of contact for your business, it's also your life line. Meeting without a phone - to me, it just seems an odd M.O considering all your other security measures.

When i punt, I usually take a punting phone with me, this assures that if I do get into a dodgy situation (which luckily so far hasn't happened), I won't lose my £700+ phone, but I'm still able to contact the lady I'm meeting or call the police. Likewise, i think you could do this: buy a cheap Pay&Go burner phone is £20ish at Argos + credit.

Like anyone else, you as a WG have a right to defend yourself even on a 'punters' site, but like others have said, make sure you're correct on the facts, else you will be stood corrected and will quickly put would-be punters off, which I know you don't want to do.

Good luck.

Very unlikely she would ever honour doing the booking on a discount should it ever come to that.

[James999]

Why use an expensive smart phone when meeting clients? If you're adamant to use your iPhone (yes i've seen it in your pics), why not make sure it's insured. If your icloud isn't working properly,  take it straight to the Apple Store Genius bar immediately, they'll be able to figure out the problem (for free).

Perhaps the phone's not legit, and as such she can't register it, insure it or risk taking it into a store, sounds like the most logical reasoning behind her paranoia srrounding the phone 

[Bangers and Gash]

Sorry I know you guys hate girls posting on here, but I feel like I have to step in and explain myself. If anyone that I meet from Adultwork were to rape, rob or attack me, I could report them to the police and they would be able to track them down from their Adultwork account. If the punter doesn't have one, I would ask for a face picture, so that if I did have to report them to the police, they could be easily identified. Also I hope that this method would deter those kinds of people from meeting me, for fear of getting caught. My second requirement is to meet them inside South Kensington tube station (which is my nearest tube station). This is because I know that there is CCTV inside the tube station, and also on the route to mine, which would provide evidence that I'd met the punter if I had to report them to the police. The reason why I don't take my phone with me, is because I've been mugged in broad daylight by someone that I met off Adultwork before. Although my phone's relatively new, its been playing up and for some reason my iCloud won't back up any more, so I can't afford to lose it as I'll loose all my contacts along with it. I always notify the punter of this before meeting them, and arrange a specific place to meet them inside the station, by one of the exits. I also offer to give directions on how to get to that specific exit if they are unsure, so that everything is very clear. Before setting off, I also provide the punter with a description of what I'm wearing, so that they can easily recognise me. I get a lot of no shows, so if they haven't turned up within 10/15 minutes I'll leave. With regards to my previous negative comments, I can assure you that I was there so I can't understand where the confusion came from, as I feel that I made things very clear and easy to understand. I've never turned down a client, as I feel that there is always a certain quality that I attractive about someone, so this isn't so that I can check the guy out beforehand.  The only thing that puts me off is when they smell bad My username used to be Lucia_ as I set up my account in a bit of a rush. I was inexperienced and didn't know what to write in my profile description, but now I've rewritten it, got a better username, and updated my pics in the hope to give it a bit of a facelift. I hope this helps!

In all honesty, it's sounds like you're in the wrong business, love. Maybe a change of career might help your psychosis. Employers like Costa Coffee and Subway have a high turnover of staff, so you should be able to gain employment there, get your foot on the ladder whilst looking for something with better prospects, more long term.

All the best - B&G   

[Bigus Dickus]

Sounds like she had tried to front it out and blame the OP on her not turning up until he provided the text evidence. She's then tried to say she thought he was someone else and it was all a big mistake. Fucking jury's out on that one! 

[James999]

And she's started whinging to Admin that VW is rude about her 

[Bangers and Gash]

The OP had a lucky escape. This pro$$ie does duo's with a self confessed barebacker!

[vw]

And she's started whinging to Admin that VW is rude about her 

Wasting admins time 3 reports not just me.

Seems time wasting is her thing !

[James999]

She certainly seems to have issues 

I had a look at her profile earlier, fucking hell doesn't she / her pimp go on, loads of pointless shit there, clearly dancing around her issues 

[Bangers and Gash]

... clearly dancing around her issues 

There'll be no dancing with those manky trotters. 

[jimmycallum]

Honestly WGs giving their two cents on UKpunting is never a good idea.
All of the above male punters have put up logical arguments and i still dont think she "gets it". I hope this has put off other WGs coming on UK Punting, Carmen has done herself no favours.
If she really wants to continue being a WG, I advise her to take some time away and get an education/common sense. At 18 years old she clearly lacks the maturity to take abuse or put up a logical argument. 

[Sonny Crockett]

Honestly WGs giving their two cents on UKpunting is never a good idea.
All of the above male punters have put up logical arguments and i still dont think she "gets it". I hope this has put off other WGs coming on UK Punting, Carmen has done herself no favours.
If she really wants to continue being a WG, I advise her to take some time away and get an education/common sense. At 18 years old she clearly lacks the maturity to take abuse or put up a logical argument.

I agree with this.

[Cunning Punt]

Bearing in mind the rest of the crap she's come up with, can one be absolutely certain that it was a AW punter that mugged her or just some random mugger who spotted her nice phone?

Who told you that?

I think she got the general idea from reading this forum. 
WGs commenting on here is fine, but the reality is that 95% of the time they speak shite and get in slagging matches with genuine, reasonable punters for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

Er, rather like this one has!

It just backfires. Jimmy C put it perfectly: 

Honestly WGs giving their two cents on UKpunting is never a good idea.
All of the above male punters have put up logical arguments and i still dont think she "gets it". I hope this has put off other WGs coming on UK Punting, Carmen has done herself no favours.
]If she really wants to continue being a WG, I advise her to take some time away and get an education/common sense. At 18 years old she clearly lacks the maturity to take abuse or put up a logical argument.

Absolutely spot on.