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Online RedKettle

Punting with a Romanian wg is always a gamble.

Few things to watch out for....

Depending on what floats your boat my fellow punters

1. When a WG advertises every service under the sun (usually only offer 3 of them)
2. When their profile name has "Pornstar" they offer the complete opposite of a pornstar  :D
3. Back to point 1 - they have to plaster anal anal anal all over the profile but they don't actually offer anal  :diablo:
4. When you ask if they charge extra for any services?  The auto reply of "all inclusive"
5. You turn up to the house/hotel and they tell you the girl you have requested is busy and they try offer you their "fat ugly friend" WALK OUT!
6. If you are asking for additional services, when you try to talk to the WG and she says "no English" I would call the reception and make her speak to the WG and make sure what ever extra you are paying for is honoured.

Not saying romainians WG are bad I've seen some gems in the past and they professional and fun.

2/10 isn't a good ratio but there some gems out there.

You have been a member since January and this is your first post!

Just a suggestion but if you put up some reviews of those experiences with Romanian that might be more helpful.

Offline Brazilian Martian

+1  :hi:

Because they claim to be WGs does not mean they are offering quality services . A large % are here to extort money from you and avoid sexual contact ! As long as WGs have existed there has always been some of them trying to rob the punter . Romanians just have a much higher % within this category of WG  :scare:
It would be better for contributors to classify the WG either Pro. or Robber when reviewing Romanians  :bomb:

 :lol: brother some of them even claim to be Brasilian and SPANISH because they have that dirty off yellow colour to their skin  :sarcastic:

Offline peter purves

+1  :hi:

Because they claim to be WGs does not mean they are offering quality services . A large % are here to extort money from you and avoid sexual contact ! As long as WGs have existed there has always been some of them trying to rob the punter . Romanians just have a much higher % within this category of WG :scare:
It would be better for contributors to classify the WG either Pro. or Robber when reviewing Romanians  :bomb:


Hmmm!!

This is a very difficult one to establish...even if in the main they have a 'bad' reputation on this site.

Personally, I think the negativity is derived from the perception of the country which existed here even before the WGs. Some countries have more of a bad press than others.

I know some Romanians are want to blame their bad perceptions on the Romani (ie Gypsy) - even though both are born in Romania
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Personally, I think the negativity is derived from the perception of the country which existed here even before the WGs. Some countries have more of a bad press than others.

No its not. Its because they (almost) universally are shit.

In 2014 in Newcastle, two Romanian girls came here to work. They were two cousins and the first Romanians in Newcastle. They were great, everyone loved them and many were saying "my god these Romanian girls are fit as and great".

Then the rest of the wave come, of pure unadulterated shit. And now its "stay far away from these Romanian girls".

The reason why Romanians are regarded so bad is because nearly everyone of them do not want to be here doing this job and it shows as abundantly clear in every part of their being. Their body language. Their services they offer. And everything.
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Offline GreyDave

 :hi: The Bait and switch profiles I and others have fallen for are mostly Roms the service is shit the last one I did changed as soon as the cash had been exchanged and put out side door I only got my helmet end in and she stopped me, going "Oh too deep Baby" Christ my cocks less than 4 inch ( 8.5 cm agh shit we are out of the eu now ) and when I thought I would hold her jugs (which were smaller than promised ) it was don't touch I am sensitive.. :diablo: :diablo: I wish they would just pack up and stop their trade the flats in hemel hempstead are over run with these Tarts ( correct word cause they are shite Whores :mad: :mad:) As you can tell today I wasted time trying to see one I have not done a review as profile disappeared as I returned home from Hemel Hempstead ...HP4 postcode
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Its your £100 to risk as you wish withs roms you certainly do ?

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:hi: The Bait and switch profiles I and others have fallen for are mostly Roms the service is shit the last one I did changed as soon as the cash had been exchanged and put out side door I only got my helmet end in and she stopped me, going "Oh too deep Baby" Christ my cocks less than 4 inch ( 8.5 cm agh shit we are out of the eu now ) and when I thought I would hold her jugs (which were smaller than promised ) it was don't touch I am sensitive.. :diablo: :diablo: I wish they would just pack up and stop their trade the flats in hemel hempstead are over run with these Tarts ( correct word cause they are shite Whores :mad: :mad:) As you can tell today I wasted time trying to see one I have not done a review as profile disappeared as I returned home from Hemel Hempstead ...HP4 postcode

any links?  Hemel is my home town, so need to know what to avoid. I have three from hemel on my hotlist, none romanion though

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Personally, I think the negativity is derived from the perception of the country which existed here even before the WGs. Some countries have more of a bad press than others.
Yes, what a thoughtful and intelligent way of putting it. Punters aren't really being scammed, baited and switched, offered poor service and lied too. They only think that's what's happened to them because of their comprehensive understanding of Romanian history and more relatively recently, how the Ceaușescu's behaved. :rolleyes:
Anth summed up your woolly-headed (or possibly pimping  :bomb:) post up with pin-point brevity:
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No its not. Its because they (almost) universally are shit.

Offline Brazilian Martian

Yes, what a thoughtful and intelligent way of putting it. Punters aren't really being scammed, baited and switched, offered poor service and lied too. They only think that's what's happened to them because of their comprehensive understanding of Romanian history and more relatively recently, how the Ceaușescu's behaved. :rolleyes:
Anth summed up your woolly-headed (or possibly pimping  :bomb:) post up with pin-point brevity:

 :sarcastic: :sarcastic: :sarcastic:

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Yes, what a thoughtful and intelligent way of putting it. Punters aren't really being scammed, baited and switched, offered poor service and lied too. They only think that's what's happened to them because of their comprehensive understanding of Romanian history and more relatively recently, how the Ceaușescu's behaved. :rolleyes:
Anth summed up your woolly-headed (or possibly pimping  :bomb:) post up with pin-point brevity:

Yumyum3

Have to say I found your response quite humorous, even if it is a gross distortion of what I was suggesting.

As for AnthG response I am not sure he summed it up accurately as you suggest.

No its not. Its because they (almost) universally are shit.

...This is an oxymoron - even though I understand the point AnthG is trying to convey here.

I guess I was more thinking along this level...


Stereotypes & Stereotyping - Lawrence Blum

"Stereotypes are false or misleading generalizations about groups held in a manner that renders them largely, though not entirely, immune to counterevidence.
In doing so, stereotypes powerfully shape the stereotyper's perception of stereotyped groups, seeing the stereotypic characteristics when they are not present, failing to see the contrary of those characteristics when they are, and generally homogenizing the group. A stereotyper associates a certain characteristic with the stereotyped group--for example Blacks with being athletic - but may do so with a form of cognitive investment in that association that does not rise to the level of a belief in the generalization that Blacks are athletic.

The cognitive distortions involved in stereotyping lead to various forms of moral distortion, to which moral philosophers have paid inadequate attention. Some moral distortions are common to all stereotypes-moral distancing, failing to see members of the stereotyped group as individuals, and failing to see diversity within that. group."





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Well done
(To avoid and douth for you )
Most Romanian wg give a shite service !!

(Clear to understand ??)

Offline Azucar D Artagnan



Personally, I think the negativity is derived from the perception of the country which existed here even before the WGs. Some countries have more of a bad press than others.

I know some Romanians are want to blame their bad perceptions on the Romani (ie Gypsy) - even though both are born in Romania

Wake up and smell the coffee . Romanians & Modovians have a higher number of poor services providers or thieves amongst their numbers  :dash: :dash: :dash:

Several years ago I used to socialize in the under ground Romanian restaurant and club near St Pauls . Some of them are great people and very sociable and convivial  . Several Romanian WGs used to drink there whilst waiting to take their next Escort booking and Sergei never showed his face there . The WGs normally were out going and you could have a good dance and laugh with them . The most annoying thing was their mobiles constantly ringing . But a majority of  these Romanian whores are going to skank your money and leave you feeling  :mad: where as you are supposed to feel  :yahoo:

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Wake up and smell the coffee . Romanians & Modovians have a higher number of poor services providers or thieves amongst their numbers  :dash: :dash: :dash:

Several years ago I used to socialize in the under ground Romanian restaurant and club near St Pauls . Some of them are great people and very sociable and convivial  . Several Romanian WGs used to drink there whilst waiting to take their next Escort booking and Sergei never showed his face there . The WGs normally were out going and you could have a good dance and laugh with them . The most annoying thing was their mobiles constantly ringing . But a majority of  these Romanian whores are going to skank your money and leave you feeling  :mad: where as you are supposed to feel  :yahoo:

Cheers,

I am not doubting your experiences. There are some following your lead who would suggest that Romanians probably have the highest amount of thieves generally let alone the WGs.

Nonetheless what caught my attention was your initial comments:


As long as WGs have existed there has always been some of them trying to rob the punter . Romanians just have a much higher % within this category of WG  :scare:
It would be better for contributors to classify the WG either Pro. or Robber when reviewing Romanians  :bomb:

To which I responded

Hmmm!!

This is a very difficult one to establish...even if in the main they have a 'bad' reputation on this site.

On a different point are there many Moldovans working in London, and if so are they perceived in the same way as Romanians in the punting industry?

It would be also interesting to observe the perceptions of Romaninan WGs in other countries as a source of comparison.

Then one could have differences like Romanians, Romanis and ethnic Hungarians.

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Pp thanks for your views

Bit bear this inomd
They are your vieed only
Mody romainian do not exdpevt
Rrpeat customers
So have no need to give a
Good servicr

Offline HappyandLucky

Pp thanks for your views

Bit bear this inomd
They are your vieed only
Mody romainian do not exdpevt
Rrpeat customers
So have no need to give a
Good servicr
Have you been on the beers  :P

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No screen broken on phone sorry !

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As for AnthG response I am not sure he summed it up accurately as you suggest.

...This is an oxymoron - even though I understand the point AnthG is trying to convey here.

I said it in this fashion so people don't get confused. With Romanians it seems quite possibly there will be a good one with a ratio of 1 in every 100. So one good girl out exists out of a hundred bad.

A girl from any other region, and more importantly British girls. I think the good to bad would be 80 good for every 20 bad.

So you have your £100, you want a good punt. Would you rather stick it on a gamble with 1:100 odds. Or 80:20 odds?
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Offline Jimmyredcab

I am amazed this thread has gone into 7 pages.     :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

"Most" Romanians are lowlife skanks ----------------- that is not my opinion, it is a FACT ----------- just read the hundreds of negative reviews on here.     :hi:

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When people ask these questions i always ask home many Romanians are on the prossie black list, nobody has answered yet as doen't suit their agenda of promoting English prossies.

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I have I also posted this a while back.
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=48791.0

More to the point, as I have said before there are very few White Romanians on the game they are mainly Gypsies.

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I have I also posted this a while back.
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=48791.0

More to the point, as I have said before there are very few White Romanians on the game they are mainly Gypsies.

Is this so Ali Katt? Can you elaborate any further? Cheers!
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Offline pisceanuk

I agree most Romanian girls were a rip offs - dont kiss, bad attitude, once they collect money they won't be nice to you, but I found few British and pole girls also as rip offs.

There are couple of Romanian girls I really liked and were adorable and have been regular to them.

I found Hungarian girls mostly biased against non whites.


I am amazed this thread has gone into 7 pages.     :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

"Most" Romanians are lowlife skanks ----------------- that is not my opinion, it is a FACT ----------- just read the hundreds of negative reviews on here.     :hi:

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Is this so Ali Katt? Can you elaborate any further? Cheers!
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Offline Azucar D Artagnan


On a different point are there many Moldovans working in London, and if so are they perceived in the same way as Romanians in the punting industry?

It would be also interesting to observe the perceptions of Romaninan WGs in other countries as a source of comparison.

Then one could have differences like Romanians, Romanis and ethnic Hungarians.

Moldovian = Romanian with less money  :lol:

Read ISG which is fully International and look at the Spain and FKK sections . Exactly the  same feed back with the exception that in the Clubs that they operate in Germany and Spain they are restricted in their skanking activities by being thrown out of that establishment if they upset the clientele too much  .

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Thats right in Germany if they give bad service they are gone .

Offline polariod

 :scare: I've been fooled by some chick thinking she was Brazilian....

I see the name Bruna...... Damn they need to fix the mobile phone app lol
She was a decent punt though.

Offline peter purves

Discuss at length here: linky

Cheers Ali Katt,

For me there is no such thing as a 'White Romanian'. For me they are all 'White', even the darkest Gypsy, I would class as such because they are part of the melting pot of Romania over the millenia.

Perhaps and equally as important Romania is identifies itself as a White population/country and even those that may not be deemed as 'White' would classify themselves as being such.

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I agree most Romanian girls were a rip offs - dont kiss, bad attitude, once they collect money they won't be nice to you, but I found few British and pole girls also as rip offs.

There are couple of Romanian girls I really liked and were adorable and have been regular to them.

I found Hungarian girls mostly biased against non whites.

A bit of a mix bag then  :)

What caught my eye was the above that out of the EE WGs Hungarians are 'mostly biased'
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Moldovian = Romanian with less money  :lol:

Read ISG which is fully International and look at the Spain and FKK sections . Exactly the  same feed back with the exception that in the Clubs that they operate in Germany and Spain they are restricted in their skanking activities by being thrown out of that establishment if they upset the clientele too much  .

Cheers Azucar,

What is the ISG?
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Cheers Azucar,

What is the ISG?

International sex guide it's a website

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International sex guide it's a website

Cheers mate, will take a look now  : :thumbsup:
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Cheers Ali Katt,

For me there is no such thing as a 'White Romanian'. For me they are all 'White', even the darkest Gypsy, I would class as such because they are part of the melting pot of Romania over the millenia.

Perhaps and equally as important Romania is identifies itself as a White population/country and even those that may not be deemed as 'White' would classify themselves as being such.
I understand your logic, but it is a bit like saying someone like Beyonce is a white American or Rita Ora is White British.

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I understand your logic, but it is a bit like saying someone like Beyonce is a white American or Rita Ora is White British.


...I am not sure I quite understand this bit Ali Katt, cheers!
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...I am not sure I quite understand this bit Ali Katt, cheers!
Both are mixed race and not white. Both England and America have become melting pots of ethnicity. I class Romani gypsies as mixed race.

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Both are mixed race and not white. Both England and America have become melting pots of ethnicity. I class Romani gypsies as mixed race.

This anthropological studies is becoming very tricky  :drinks:

I would classify Beyonce as Black for a number of reasons:

1. The US standard of race (ie what is a Black person)
2. Both parents are Black (ie they are not White)
3. She looks 'Black'

[This does not mean to say that she does not have any White blood within her, but rather her phyenotype (ie outward appearance) is predominantly Black.]

I think I grasped that you believe the Romanis are mixed. Here I would agree with you, since they have their origins from India. However, having being in Romania for over a 1,000 years this is why I suggested they are 'White' because they would have mixed with the other 'White' groups there.
When you compare a Romani to an Indian even though there can be similarities I see them being somewhat different, since they have been away from the Indian sub-continent for a thousand years.

Hope you can follow this  :wackogirl:

I think we just have different definitions on terminology. Though I clearly understand what you mean by the term a 'White Romanian'.

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If you had actually been there you would know that Romanians are as white as Italians or Bulgarians. Their language is a cross between Slavonic and italian; in fact my gf who is Italian can understand them as her local dialect is quite similar.

There is a confusion here; some Romanians are Roma - or gypsies - most are not; just as some Irish are tinkers - or gypsies - and most are not. The Roma are heavily persecuted in Romania.  I don't think many of the Romanian girls over here are Roma.

There are quite a few well-rated Romanians - Sexy Janet GFE - recently commented on by Roth and me is one. There are a lot who have been trafficked  and are nit working willingly- crime is big in Romania, but no worse than Bulgaria.

As to colour in the U. S. that is a joke. Anyone who is not 100% white is regarded as black. A little thought (in short supply over there) would indicate this makes no sense. It is just as logical to suggest that anyone who is not 100% black is white.


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Off the point a little it does not matter where or what colour tje skin of so called Romanian wg
Shit dervice is shit service the world over
Few of said wgs are up for regular repeat vists so moto
 Cum baby fuck .fuck off applies.

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There are quite a few well-rated Romanians.

That is like saying some pit bulls won't bite you.   :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Personally I don't want to take the risk.     :hi: :hi: :hi:

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How about put you dick in a  door and slam it
Should be ok ??
And pay £100

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...Romanians are as white as Italians or Bulgarians...

There is a confusion here; some Romanians are Roma - or gypsies - most are not; just as some Irish are tinkers - or gypsies - and most are not. The Roma are heavily persecuted in Romania.  I don't think many of the Romanian girls over here are Roma...


I agree with this assessment!

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If you had actually been there you would know that Romanians are as white as Italians or Bulgarians. Their language is a cross between Slavonic and italian; in fact my gf who is Italian can understand them as her local dialect is quite similar.
Yes, but it depends on their ethnicity. In the same way Indian people have lived in England for 100s of years, but nobody would call them White English.

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There is a confusion here; some Romanians are Roma - or gypsies - most are not; just as some Irish are tinkers - or gypsies - and most are not. The Roma are heavily persecuted in Romania.  I don't think many of the Romanian girls over here are Roma.
To be honest Roma are heavily persecuted in Romania for a reason. Much like Somalians, Syrians and Gypsies are here, a few bad apples doesn't wash with me, don't forget in London they have to put up pickpocketing signs in Romanian.

Most prossies in England who claim to be Romanian are part white Romanian and Roma at best, like Alexandra Stan. Don't forget we don't get the best a country has to offer we get the cast-offs. We may get some stunning Polish women, but they are only considered average in Poland.   



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Most prossies in England who claim to be Romanian are part white Romanian and Roma at best


...I agree and hence my original position that they are all 'White'. It is Romanians who makes a distinction between Romanians and Romas, the outside world tends not to as we can see from Oring123 post. Then again most of the EE countries which have a Roma population also make such distinctions- it's not just Romanians

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...I agree and hence my original position that they are all 'White'. It is Romanians who makes a distinction between Romanians and Romas, the outside world tends not to as we see from Oring123 post. Then again most of the EE nations not just Romania also make such a distinction too..
I don't think we will agree on this. If they are part white and part Roma, they are mixed race, much like if someone is part white and part Indian. I think most people will make the distinction if they are aware, for example a Chinese person wouldn't think Idris Elba is British or Sadiq Khan is from London. Likewise if I was born in Pakistan I wouldn't call myself a white pakistani what an insult to the native people.

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I don't think we will agree on this. If they are part white and part Roma, they are mixed race, much like if someone is part white and part Indian. I think most people will make the distinction if they are aware, for example a Chinese person wouldn't think Idris Elba is British or Sadiq Khan is from London. Likewise if I was born in Pakistan I wouldn't call myself a white pakistani what an insult to the native people.

No I do not think we will but we can still discuss amicably  :drinks:

For me the problem is the term mixed. All humans are 'mixed'. Then you have the caveat biologically there is no such thing as 'race' and the list goes on.

This is why we are finding it difficult to come to a consensus.

 
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No I do not think we will but we can still discuss amicably  :drinks:

For me the problem is the term mixed. All humans are 'mixed'. Then you have the caveat biologically there is no such thing as 'race' and the list goes on.

This is why we are finding it difficult to come to a consensus.
I think measuring "race" by ethnicity is more accurate. The classic scale of Mongoloid, Negroid and Caucasoid is a useful indicator though.

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Off the point a little it does not matter where or what colour the skin of so called Romanian wg
Shit service is shit service the world over
Few of said wgs are up for regular repeat visits so for most they say ,
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does colour of skin affect service ?
i think not !
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I think measuring "race" by ethnicity is more accurate. The classic scale of Mongoloid, Negroid and Caucasoid is a useful indicator though.

I thought you were from this school of thought but those terms are now considered outdated in the world of academia
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does colour of skin affect service ?
i think not !

...Conversely and at the same time you believe country of origin ie Romania does affect service?
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It should not but it does. Some WGs are more nastier to non whites and less so to white punters.

does colour of skin affect service ?
i think not !

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It should not but it does. Some WGs are more nastier to non whites and less so to white punters.

heard that a few times for punters on the forum.

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Hello all, long time lurker first time poster.

Just thought I'd chip in as I have had an experience with a Romanian here in London (Unique Julie, or Joana19 as she was for me - she has quit it seems and gone back to Romania).

She was generally very nice and pleasant, sex was good ans she seemed enthusiastic enough throughout - even to the point of going overtime of the (two) hour long sessions we had.
Obviously I may have been very lucky here, but my only experience with them has been positive - maybe I need to try another to see?