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Author Topic: Why the negativity with Romanian WGs?  (Read 5048 times)

Offline Sonny Crockett

Well, it's simple Jim...don't punt with the Negative or unreviewed ones...punt with the Positives...the odds will be on your side then!!  :dash:

If we were to follow your logic...not punting with any nationality that had got numerous negatives on here...I doubt there would be any nationalities left to punt with!

It's the individual, not her nationality, that matters. I met quite a few flaky Brit girls in my first few years punting, it won't stop me from punting with recommended Brit girls in the future.

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Offline Jimmyredcab

Well, it's simple Jim...don't punt with the Negative or unreviewed ones...punt with the Positives...the odds will be on your side then!!  :dash:


Far, far safer to simply avoid ALL Romanians ------------------- the vast majority of UKP members already do that.

Kissing is an essential for me, Romanians are known to avoid that service ------------ probably because they earn such a low rate after Sergei has taken his share.

I wish you well with your Romanian punts -------------- not for me though, not in this life anyway.   :hi:

I wish you well with your Romanian punts -------------- not for me though, not in this life anyway.   :hi:

Very nice of you !

Do you fear the afterlife ?

Online Marmalade

Well, it's simple Jim...don't punt with the Negative or unreviewed ones...punt with the Positives...the odds will be on your side then!! 
No they won't. Because most of the "good reviews" of Romanians are from people with limited experience or else they don't mark anything a negative unless they are hung drawn and quartered. I've met a few Romas that were "ok" at least for a punt or two but it bore no relation to reading Roma reviews. Chance is as good or better, and the odds are stacked against the truly discriminating punter (as opposed those that just claim to be discriminating and 'doing their research').

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It's the individual, not her nationality, that matters. I met quite a few flaky Brit girls in my first few years punting, it won't stop me from punting with recommended Brit girls in the future.
Yes, it is the individual, and more Romanian individuals are criminals -- or at least lacking the decency of attitude that a sensible punter expects and seeks. [/color]That is a fact. Your bit about 'flaky Brits' is inconsequential fallacy. It's like saying, "I've been in quite a few West End restaurant toilets that stink, therefore public latrines don't stink." It is unrelated. It is calling attention to something else when you run out of steam to support your argument. A rd herring of a particular kind. How many threads do you see saying, "What's with the negativity with British WGs? You should stick to Romas!" None.

It's simple statistics: it's nothing against Romanians as a race. If they were brought up in the same sort of society as we have been, they would probably have the same low crime statistics, lying statistics, and prostitute attitudes.


Romanians EIGHT times as likely to be jailed here as Britons.
That is not racism, it's just a statistic.

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"The Met’s figures show the 27,725 arrests of ­Romanian suspects were in connection with 142 rapes, 10 murders, 666 sex crimes, 303 robberies, 1,370 burglaries and 2,902 offences of violence. The 34,905 arrests in London among Polish citizens in London were for suspected involvement in 84 murders, 129 rapes, 866 sex assaults, 480 robberies, 2,094 burglaries and nearly 7,500 violent crimes. Lithuania was in third place on the list with more than 18,500 arrests, followed by Nigeria on 15,600, India with 15,200 and Jamaica with 14,072. Data recently showed the number of Romanians in UK jails had grown by nearly 40 per cent from 454 in September 2011 to 624 last year. British taxpayers are already paying more than £100million a year to fund an estimated 2,400 Eastern Europeans ­currently in our jails, at a rate of £42,000 per prisoner. Fraudsters from Romania, a former hardline Communist state, are responsible for 92 per cent of all crime at cashpoints in Britain, according to police."

It is important not to judge all Romanians as the same. But if you are looking for a general statistic, then Romanian prostitutes in general, coming from a country where crime in the subculture is relatively normalised, don't think twice about giving poor service. They often have good looks but shit service or can throw a tantrum on the slightest thing, especially if you're not a fluffy that does as he's told! There are a very large number of rip-off Polish prossies as well, and a lot of criminality associated with Polish immigrants, BUT as a percentage of the number of Poles over here it is MUCH lower. Verb. Saps.
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Online Marmalade

Far, far safer to simply avoid ALL Romanians ------------------- the vast majority of UKP members already do that.
Indeed. In fact the whole thread is little more than cheerleading for Romanians and unworthy of UKP in my opinion  :hi:  but people are free to say what they think (even when they don't think).  :scare:

Well, when I started this string I hadn't expected to be referred to as "gormless", a "Sergei" pimp or any of the other insults that have flown my way.

I haven't written reviews on Romanian girls for two reasons, my punting history of late has not been with Romanian girls except for Nikky at 3 Lisle Street in London. This has not been for any nefarious reason other than not having punted with them. Writing reviews of girls from a couple of years back wouldn't really help anyone, given that the majority of my punts are in the  Soho walk-ups and that the turnover of girls can be quite high. Secondly any positive reviews I would post of a Romanian girl would now be denounced. Similarly any negative review would be seen as hypocrisy.

While I don't have may posts or reviews on this site, it doesn't mean that I have not done my research. That is how I have come to judge each and every girl on her own merits, not on her nationality, not on services she may or may not offer, not on her looks or anything else for that matter.

I respect that everyone has a view and that view may be different to mine, after all how we choose to spend our money is down to the individual. I thank you all for your comments good and bad.

Offline AnthG

Yes, some Romanians are crap, Sergei has many in his portfolio, but some are good providers and among some of the best-lookers on the UK market at certain price-points...you need to sort and choose using reliable recommendations on here...but that's the same with every nationality.

The correct statement to make would be "Nearly all" not "some".

There are good Romanian girls out there, but they are rarer than hens teeth. The chances are that for the new Romanian profile that pops up on Adultwork who looks gorgeous. It will be a crap punt and a complete waste of money.

You may as well buy 50 lotto tickets with your £100 than book this girl as you will have better chances of striking lucky than by booking that Romanian girl.

There may be some fantastic brilliant one in a million girl who is a Romanian start working sometime. But unfortunately for her it is a case of she will need to wait longer, and put more effort in to becoming recognised by the masses due to all the dredge who has come before her ruining peoples perceptions of Romanians.

If a girl is good she will soon get known as such. Especially when there are crazy fools constantly booking Romanians thinking to themselves "this next one will be good"

The sensible thing she could do is come onto the forums like Michelle Independent did (who I know is Polish but the point still stands) and impress people and entice punters like this. It will take longer for her, but she will get recognised out from the crowed.

People saying in this topic the chances of getting a shit punt with a Romanian is the same as with any other girl from any other country either are being deliberately stupid. Or live in cuckoo land.

Offline AnthG

While I don't have may posts or reviews on this site, it doesn't mean that I have not done my research. That is how I have come to judge each and every girl on her own merits, not on her nationality, not on services she may or may not offer, not on her looks or anything else for that matter.

So the ultimate question is, how do you judge a girls merits then?

All you have before booking a girl is an adultwork profile. With some text she has created for herself in it. And some photos for herself. Then there is a possible feedback score on AW she has acquired. Or there are possibly reviews or comments for her on UKP.

Or is there anything else you are using?

Online vt

It is important not to judge all Romanians as the same.

At least we agree on that point!  :)

Online Marmalade

At least we agree on that point!
Here's one I respect:

Radu Lupu. One of the world's greatest pianists.

Here's another:

George Emil Palade. He won the Nobel Prize for laying the foundations of molecular cell biology.

Offline Sonny Crockett

There are WGs of other nationalities that give poor service and fuck punters about with bullshit, as well as treat them with contempt. I know, as that has happened to me.
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Offline AnthG

There are WGs of other nationalities that give poor service and fuck punters about with bullshit, as well as treat them with contempt. I know, as that has happened to me.

Yeah but the point of this topic is, does she do this to everyone, or were you just unfortunate to have received this.

Looking at your past negatives. the foreign girls you have given negs to have all received good reviews from others at other times.

A bad Romanian will give a shit service to anyone no matter what. And the only possible way anyone will think a punt with them was good is they are deluded and too easy to please, or very inexperienced and have not seen a good girl yet to compare them with.

Offline EricJ

Just had a shit punt with a Ukrainian girl tonight. but for £60 for 30min was not too bad. here is her adultwork page https://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=3440721 . She does not look like the girl in the pick. I should have walked instead of wasting £60.

It's not just Romanians that will give you a shit punt. I believe all Eastern Europeans give crap service. So I believe its just better to stick with the  British girls rather than risk mental abuse.

Just had a shit punt with a Ukrainian girl tonight. but for £60 for 30min was not too bad. here is her adultwork page https://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=3440721 . She does not look like the girl in the pick. I should have walked instead of wasting £60.

It's not just Romanians that will give you a shit punt. I believe all Eastern Europeans give crap service. So I believe its just better to stick with the  British girls rather than risk mental abuse.
How many WG's have you met?  :unknown:

Offline Arley Hall

I think we can probably all agree that there are an lot of Romanians on AW that we wouldn't consider booking. It's pretty obvious from their faked feedback and the language "they" use in their profiles that they're untrustworthy and not likely to deliver. Maybe the differences of opinion on this topic comes from the fact that some of us are discounting those girls because we just assume that nobody with their head screwed on would book them anyway. That's certainly the case for me. I'm forming a judgement of Romanian girls which is based on the ones that I consider "serious" - not the ones that are clearly a joke. For what it's worth, my experience of these "serious" girls so far has been that they're quite pleasant and civilised - but they're neither spectacularly good or spectacularly bad as escorts. They're on a bell curve, and I haven't yet seen the two extremes (the bell-ends if you like!) It may well be that the bell curve for Polish girls (for example) would peak at a higher level of performance - and of course the Polish girls (for example) don't seem to have such a long tail of "joke" profiles.

It could also be that there are genuine regional differences. If a Romanian girl turns up in my neck of the woods in Sussex it's often the case that she's got a hotel room at Gatwick or is in a clean, modern flat in Crawley - so I don't recognise the 'six-girls-in-a-shithole-with-Sergei' scenario that others have experienced.
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Offline EricJ

How many WG's have you met?  :unknown:

so far i have meet 13. 9 were ok and 4 being complete shit.

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Here's one I respect:

Here's another I...ahem...totally respect... :cool:



Tatiana...she came into the room dancing to the music on the radio...snogged me...then set about comprehensively and energetically fucking me for the next 45 mins...the reverse cowgirl was a highlight...all smiles, seductive looks and funny banter until I unloaded deep inside her with her ankles up by my ears...read more in my review...

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=79006.0

This is what you're missing out on when you dismiss Romanians wholesale!!   ;)

I can't wait 'til she returns.  :)

Offline Arley Hall

Here's another I...ahem...totally respect... :cool:

If she does return, I may well have to go and pay my respects!
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so far i have meet 13. 9 were ok and 4 being complete shit.
I look forward to reading the reviews especially of good Brits  :hi:

Online vt

If she does return, I may well have to go and pay my respects!

You obviously love lowlife scum from the criminal underclass of Eastern Europe too...you are clearly a lost cause who can't be trusted!!  ;)   :lol:

Offline LookNoHands

I've met a few Romanian gems, the only girls I have ever gone back to for more...  but I have also experienced Romanian bait & switch games, promises by phone that never materialise in person and girls who change their mind once the money is handed over...   I'd go with 1 in 10 as the proportion of good quality with rotten.

I mainly wanted to add one thing - that in my experience many of the Romanian girls (that I met) are not completely in on the scams... they are happy to do a simple bj & fuck but are not aware that they have profiles listing 'receiving hardsports' rimming giving' or 'fisting' and many other quite unusual services... in fact if you see these on a girl who is only costing 100 per hour they are red flags! These girls have often never seen their profiles, they did not create it and they did not answer the text messages or calls - its their manager who says 'Yes, yes, yes' to every enquiry and the first the girl knows about your bizarre request if when you turn up at the door.

BUT before anyone jumps on this with a different experience - YES I have also met girls who were completely aware they are running a scam and laughed it all off when challenged.

Girls with lots of reviews are generally a safer bet, but as it has been said before here reviewers may be naive or generous that makes it somewhat unreliable, but on AW you can click on the reviewers feedback and see if you'd trust his opinion. A guy leaving a review who has 30-40 feedback from girls he has met will show you the kind of girl he meets - in fact he may have given feedback on girls you know. You can judge the reliability of his feedback by that - a guy whose feedback also include expensive UK escorts is more trustworthy re. Romanians than those half a dozen  feedbacks from guys with no feedback (who are probably fake profiles by Sergei) who seem to ONLY meet the same Romanian girls at one location over and over.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2016, 11:06:08 PM by LookNoHands »

Offline Arley Hall

You obviously love lowlife scum from the criminal underclass of Eastern Europe too...you are clearly a lost cause who can't be trusted!!  ;)   :lol:

Yep - I'd sell my own grandmother for a taste of Roma pussy!
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You obviously love lowlife scum from the criminal underclass of Eastern Europe too...you are clearly a lost cause who can't be trusted!!  ;)   :lol:

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Offline ramrodronnie

Well, it's simple Jim...don't punt with the Negative or unreviewed ones...punt with the Positives...the odds will be on your side then!!  :dash:

If we were to follow your logic...not punting with any nationality that had got numerous negatives on here...I doubt there would be any nationalities left to punt with!

It's the individual, not her nationality, that matters. I met quite a few flaky Brit girls in my first few years punting, it won't stop me from punting with recommended Brit girls in the future.


Totally agree vt.  :thumbsup:
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Offline ramrodronnie

Far, far safer to simply avoid ALL Romanians ------------------- the vast majority of UKP members already do that.

Kissing is an essential for me, Romanians are known to avoid that service ------------ probably because they earn such a low rate after Sergei has taken his share.

I wish you well with your Romanian punts -------------- not for me though, not in this life anyway.   :hi:


You are wrong, wrong, wrong Jimmy. Read the comments about reading Reviews, then make your mind up from those. The overwhelming majority of punts I've had have been Romanians. But I've well and truly checked them out first.
I really don't get your logic, or prejudice. As I've said many times, there are good and bad in all nationalities, including Brits mate.
Do your research first mate if your afraid of TOFTT.

You really don't realise just how wrong you are,. You seem to see the bad ones, don't read the Reviews. And then call them all lying, cheating skanks.
Again as I've said many times before, there are good and bad in all nationalities. It's really unfair to tar all Romanian WGs with the same brush mate. I know from many experiences.
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