How would you like AdultWork to change for the better?

[Sex Bob-omb]

So this thread
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=89074.0
by The_Don about false verification pics got me thinking about how AW could be improved for the punter (I'm sure it could be for the WGs too).

Off the top of my head these are my ideas.  What would you change?

1. They must display a verification picture
2. They must update the verification picture at least every 2 years
3. They are allowed to look nice in a verification picture!
4. Remove likes / dislikes and replace with included / extra / not offered
5. Update feedback to always ask punter if services were included or extra as the WG has advertised
6. Add an anonymous report button for confirmed bookings (but not linked to feedback) to report B&S or other scams

[Midlane]

If there was any way to improve comms, I'd be all for it.

Like, a phone number has to be listed, or if they choose not to list one, they can be reported / given feedback for lack of responses to emails.

[Jimmyredcab]

You clearly don't understand the concept of Adultwork ------------- it is run by businessmen who are only interested in maximum profits, they don't care about punters ------------ and why should they when there is no credible competition.   

[Sex Bob-omb]

You clearly don't understand the concept of Adultwork -------------

I do

it is run by businessmen who are only interested in maximum profits, they don't care about punters ------------ and why should they when there is no credible competition.   

I'm sure this is true but maybe shortsighted on their part.  Business that treat paying customers (both punters & WGs) like shite will often see their profits going in the wrong direction.

My question wasn't "from a punters POV should it change", as the answer is pretty obviously yes.
Nor was it "will it change"

I was asking what punters would like to see change.

[Fagin Again]

You clearly don't understand the concept of Adultwork ------------- it is run by businessmen who are only interested in maximum profits, they don't care about punters ------------ and why should they when there is no credible competition.   

Quite so.

If you're in effect a monopoly, as Adult Work is – like Amazon, eBay and Google – there's no necessity to bother with good customer service,  though the other three companies have a brand to protect, so they make a bit of an effort.  If being big in prostitution got you a shirt sponsorship with Manchester Utd, Adult Work might try harder.

If you ever have the misfortune to contact their Customer Services team, you'll encounter just about the worst and most uninterested customer service on the internet.  And that's saying something.  Doubtless they despise us, and laugh all the way to the bank with their shedloads of money.  They have no interest in "putting anything back", as the saying goes.

The Adult Work concept and the site design are, of course, excellent.  Far better than the rival site I will call Peanut (because when I first wrote the full name it was censored out), which was set up several years earlier. 

That's why Adult Work ran away with all the prizes.  It's just a pity they're so s****y.  Which rhymes.

[Sir Lance-a-lot]

One very quick and easy change would be to add fingering to the preferences list.  Given the amount of much less common stuff on there, why is fingering missing?

[jcdmj12]

One very quick and easy change would be to add fingering to the preferences list.  Given the amount of much less common stuff on there, why is fingering missing?

Adding not looking like the punter is a piece of shit you found on your shoe would be good for Romanian SPs too.

[RudiUK]

+1 on fingering as a like/dislike

Email response stats

Multiple email templates for those of us trying to make bookings via smartphone (I know you can copy paste but a template would be really handy)

[claretandblue]

It should be easier to flag/report fake profiles,other than that I like the site

[sealion]

Let the Punters see the notes (all of them) that the girls have put about him on the site, so he has the opportunity to challenge if required.

[bristolqwerty]

Any Romanian giving the "death stare" in her profile picture is clearly labelled as "disinterested in sex" and not hot, sexy, your dream girl, a one of experience, someone you'll return to again and again......

[Sonny Crockett]

All AW profiles must have a phone number displayed.

[bristolqwerty]

By  suggesting other escorts similar to your previous conquests - like shopping on Amazon - If I punted an Asian lady in Paddington, they show me others working in the area....maybe with similar likes lists..... others who bought this also viewed.... kind of thing.

[SaneOnes]

1. Set the highest per hour rate to no more than £150 if A-level is not on offer.
2. Get rid of the, utterly pointless, Q&A section and have a dislikes' list instead.
3. Disallow prossies to use the term PSE if A-level is not on offer.

[maxxblue]

It should be easier to flag/report fake profiles,other than that I like the site

I think it is remarkably easy to report fake profiles - and they usually take such profiles down within a matter of hours, in my experience. I wonder how you are reporting fake profiles, C&B?

[Nagilum]

They need to allow negatives to be left for girls who do not confirm bookings. It's entirely one sided as they can negative you but not vice versa.

[Marmalade]

Actually shit though it is, AW does implement very frequent improvements.

When I look at this thread title, I think, either a) treat it as a fucking joke and suggest things like unlimited free sex for every thousand logons or b) make suggestions that could work within their business model.

It is useless in my opinion to say what we would 'like' as if it were a service run for punters out of goodwill. It's a business, quite a successful one and more useful than its competitors, and it is not exactly being run by beginners or at a level that can be done on zero income. The search facility is one of the most sophisticated of any website I can think of. They read UKP. Rather than us (as non-technical experts) telling them what to do, it is probably more effective just to carry on doing what we do, kicking up at stuff that annoys us, writing factual reviews and that sort of thing. Like 'suggestions' made on how to 'improve' UKP, someone (ie admin, who is probably thinking about them full time) will have thought of most of them already and the most useful thing is often feedback on that person's ideas.

Take Romanians, which we have bellyached about for fuck knows how long. It was not obvious how to bloody get rid of them in searches (although it is more 'obvious' now someone has done it). A business has to observe some level of fairness and legality, even if it is through hoops and mirrors. So they eventually brought in a list of all nationalities with the user-option to include or exclude any single one. Nothing racist, nothing anti-gypo (and not even perfect, but a damn sight closer than before if you want to avoid the RoRos.)

The main thing I'd like them to do is pay some attention to stuff that was useful but no longer works (at least on some platforms). They used to be open to requests, criticisms and suggestions: nowadays you're likely to get a stroppy answer. For instance, notifications. I used to get notification emails when a new girl meeting my criteria started work in my area. Now its gone -- or rather it's not gone, it's still on offer, my notification request preferences are still there, they just no longer work.

There's other features I'd like but then working out how they could implement them without biting the hand and fanny that feeds them is too much like hard work -- their work, not mine!

[Golovkin]

For me when a member is verified it should display their actual age and sex at birth! It seems ridiculous that some service providers are men posing as women. The age thing is easy to do I can't believe you can change or stay the same age for 10 years.

[george r]

phone number shown and option to stay logged in would be handy ?

[Marmalade]

for instance...

1. They must display a verification picture

Or what? delete all the girls that don't? Some of the students we've had in Edinburgh have been among the best indie shags I've had in the UK and none of them showed a clear face picture much less paraded a public v-picture. Like most suggestions, with respect, following them would cut down the market merely to get rid of bad apples, which the punter can usually do himself with a bit of work. (see the UKP wiki help guide on analysing a profile)

2. They must update the verification picture at least every 2 years

ditto. Some of them have to borrow a fucking camera even to get a picture up.

3. They are allowed to look nice in a verification picture!

Nice. But the main reason AW probably do it is to make it easier to trace Romanian criminals, in which case, closer to passport photo the better.

6. Add an anonymous report button for confirmed bookings (but not linked to feedback) to report B&S or other scams

Mmmm I can see competing pimps and crackheads loving that one - just anonymously report every decent girl that they lose bookings too.
You do realise how criminal gangs work on AW do you? Or not?

a phone number has to be listed, or if they choose not to list one, they can be reported / given feedback for lack of responses to emails.

ditto my previous comment about phones. I can sympathise with Londoners who want these things just to filter down the mass of less-usable profiles, but less populated areas just want prossies, even ones that don't have phone numbers up.

You clearly don't understand the concept of Adultwork ------------- it is run by businessmen who are only interested in maximum profits, they don't care about punters ------------ and why should they when there is no credible competition.   

A man who has been around long enough to notice. In fact if AW didn't run some sort of business model it could be a lot worse. Like the old peanut site. They make profits from prossies -- they are not run by prossies.

If you ever have the misfortune to contact their Customer Services team, you'll encounter just about the worst and most uninterested customer service on the internet.  And that's saying something.  Doubtless they despise us, and laugh all the way to the bank with their shedloads of money.  They have no interest in "putting anything back", as the saying goes.

Someone with common sense. I don't know that they laugh at us though. I know they've made demands to UKP Admin and he's told them to fuck off, as he knows the legal and technical side as well they do, or, in most cases, better.

One very quick and easy change would be to add fingering to the preferences list.  Given the amount of much less common stuff on there, why is fingering missing?

I'd like that too, but it would be 'at discretion.' Have you ever noticed how women case your fingernails the way we case their tits? They're thinking (consciously or subconsciously) would I let that sharp, badly trimmed, grubby nail, that he has probably forgotten to wash after wiping his arse just now, inside my 'princess' fannyhole?

Adding not looking like the punter is a piece of shit you found on your shoe would be good for Romanian SPs too.

Multiple email templates for those of us trying to make bookings via smartphone (I know you can copy paste but a template would be really handy)

Nice, but you can get that as a separate app of course.

All AW profiles must have a phone number displayed.

Even for prostitutes who are so fucking clueless as to lose their phone regularly, run out of money (after boozing all night) so can't top the thing up, or else just can't figure how to have a prossie phone that their pimp or bf won't find and monitor ... As I've said to London punters, in some areas we just want a reasonable number of prossies: phone numbers are an added extra when we can get them, or when you have so many to choose from.

By  suggesting other escorts similar to your previous conquests - like shopping on Amazon - If I punted an Asian lady in Paddington, they show me others working in the area....maybe with similar likes lists..... others who bought this also viewed.... kind of thing.

Easy for HP who has 'specialist' taste but I think the rest of us, at least me, have well-defined tastes that AW is not likely to guess with any precision. But who knows. Maybe they could. "Customers who like tight 18-21yr old fannies, well-oiled bumholes, with freshly listerined gobs and no teeth when she deep-throats also liked...must do Japanese rope bondage and ballerina role-play" hmmmm, yeah.... 

Hey just my thoughts. Excuse multiple replies. 

[claretandblue]

I think it is remarkably easy to report fake profiles - and they usually take such profiles down within a matter of hours, in my experience. I wonder how you are reporting fake profiles, C&B?

I must be blind then!let me know how you do it 

[Jimmyredcab]

It should be easier to flag/report fake profiles,other than that I like the site

Some parts of Adultwork are excellent ------------ like the search facility ----------especially now that you can filter out scumbag Romanians.     

In general it is a minefield, I am sick of "headless" photos ----------- especially when I have paid to view a private gallery. 

[NIK]

Close it down.

[Jimmyredcab]

Close it down.

That will not happen, they are earning £thousands week after week -------------- of course one day a better option may come along, some on here may remember "Friends Reunited" which was popular in it's day.   

[Mr Garmin]

Perhaps a price high/low filter like eBay. While we all know that price has no relationship with quality it may focus the mind of providers if they know that they will end up at the top or bottom of a list. It certainly works in other industries with companies competing to be at the top of a search. 

[sealion]

Perhaps a price high/low filter like eBay. While we all know that price has no relationship with quality it may focus the mind of providers if they know that they will end up at the top or bottom of a list. It certainly works in other industries with companies competing to be at the top of a search.

They already have this feature, you can tell the search to rank by price instead of by date the profile was last updated.

[Mr Garmin]

Oh yes - my mistake, getting over a heavy night.

[Marmalade]

Perhaps a price high/low filter like eBay. While we all know that price has no relationship with quality it may focus the mind of providers if they know that they will end up at the top or bottom of a list. It certainly works in other industries with companies competing to be at the top of a search.

You can do that on the "rates and availability" tab when you search.

[maxxblue]

I must be blind then!let me know how you do it 

No problem.

1. Click on the profile.

2. Scroll to the bottom of the page, and click on the link at the bottom left labelled 'Authentic member?'.

3. Scroll to the bottom of the page, and click on the link at the bottom near centre labelled 'If you believe that XXX is in breach of our Terms of Use, then please report them to us here' - a dialogue box will appear with a number of options.

4. Click on 'Fake profiles' (or other, as necessary) and give reason - I usually copy the Tineye link to prove that photos are fake.

5. Click on 'submit report'.

I've used this numerous times, and as far as I can remember, AW have never failed to remove the profile I have reported within a day. 

[Fagin Again]

They [that is, Adult Work] read UKP.

I didn't know that, so I will amplify comments I made on the previous page, and end with a positive suggestion.

AW is a spectacularly successful business.  They had a great idea, implemented it with skill and flair, and left the only real rival at that time – the site I have to call Peanut, because its real name is automatically censored out – far behind.   Adult Work must have made its creators rich beyond the dreams of avarice.  So, hats off to you, mes amis...!

However, as I implied earlier, AW's customer service is beyond a joke.  As bad as bad can be – grudging, uninterested, unhelpful.  I write this not so much from my own experience, but from that of several girls who have told me of theirs.  (Allow me to be fluffy for a moment!)  Small breaches by genuine and honest girls can be punished by expulsion from the site, with AW, needless to say, helping themselves to their Private Gallery "credits", sometimes hundreds of pounds.  Which is theft.  This is in addition, of course, to the staggeringly generous 30% that AW already takes from Private Gallery earnings.

Yes, of course AW needs to run a tight ship, and get rid of fakes, frauds, cheats and career criminals.  But when people are genuinely struggling with complicated procedures and technology – or other problems – helpfulness and (even) a little bit of flexibility would be the mark of a decent organisation.  Instead the "customers" get (at best) e-mails with links in them, which generally involve them going round in circles and tearing their hair out.

But then, as I implied earlier, AW doubtless see its customers as low life – that is, common prostitutes and pointless perverts – who deserve nothing, and plenty of it.

If, however, I'm maligning AW, and they really would like to do better, then all they have to do is hire one intelligent, helpful and friendly (!) customer services assistant at £20,000 per annum (a drop in the ocean for AW), who is mandated to take a bit of time and trouble to help genuine customers.

[Jimmyredcab]

No problem.

1. Click on the profile.

2. Scroll to the bottom of the page, and click on the link at the bottom left labelled 'Authentic member?'.

3. Scroll to the bottom of the page, and click on the link at the bottom near centre labelled 'If you believe that XXX is in breach of our Terms of Use, then please report them to us here' - a dialogue box will appear with a number of options.

4. Click on 'Fake profiles' (or other, as necessary) and give reason - I usually copy the Tineye link to prove that photos are fake.

5. Click on 'submit report'.

I've used this numerous times, and as far as I can remember, AW have never failed to remove the profile I have reported within a day. 

Let's not forget, when Adultwork remove a profile they will confiscate any credits that have been built up ------- so it is in their interests to do so, anyway Sergei will just set up another one.   

[Squire Haggard]

If all the AW girls are forced to show a verification pic, there will be many that wont want do do this. They will not want friends and family to know what they are up to. This will result in us having less girls to choose from.

How many of us would still post on this site if we had to show a photo of ourselves?  it'll work the same way with the AW girls.

[Jimmyredcab]

If all the AW girls are forced to show a verification pic, there will be many that wont want do do this. They will not want friends and family to know what they are up to. This will result in us having less girls to choose from.

How many of us would still post on this site if we had to show a photo of ourselves? it'll work the same way with the AW girls.

WE ARE THE BUYERS NOT THE SELLERS.      

Would you buy a pair of shoes for £120 without seeing a picture of them first.     

[Squire Haggard]

WE ARE THE BUYERS NOT THE SELLERS.      

Would you buy a pair of shoes for £120 without seeing a picture of them first.     

No, but I've had AW girls without seeing a verification photo. There were the usual photos of them on the site, with their faces hidden,  as usual. You dont have to look at the fire when you're poking the grate. 

[Golovkin]

I think the whole idea of forcing sp to have face picture that everybody can view. Isn't going to work the numbers would dramatically reduce on aw. Most girls will never show their face at the end of the day you don't have to see them if they don't have a picture showing their face. Also once you see their face if you don't like what you see you can leave. Nobody is forcing you to stay if they have a face like a slapped arse.

[HappyandLucky]

Have a policy that when anyone adds a profile with "courtesan" included it gets automatically deleted 

[Jimmyredcab]

Most girls will never show their face at the end of the day you don't have to see them if they don't have a picture showing their face.

This is one of the many reasons that I rarely punt now, I am sick of searching Aduktwork day after day and seeing hundreds of Romanian skanks or headless photos.     

[Jimmyredcab]

Nobody is forcing you to stay if they have a face like a slapped arse.

True, that is all very well if the pro$$ie is a reasonable distance away but sometimes I will have to travel for an hour to get there ------------ and an hour back, that is two hours totally wasted.   

[Huawei]

Remove the first entry from various 'groups of three' in the likes list. For example:

Rimming
Rimming (giving)
Rimming (receiving)

WTF is the point of first of these 3 options? 

Same applies to fisting, BDSM, spanking, domination, humiliation and maybe others that I've missed.

OTOH, anal play doesn't define giving or receiving FFS 

[HappyandLucky]

True, that is all very well if the pro$$ie is a reasonable distance away but sometimes I will have to travel for an hour to get there ------------ and an hour back, that is two hours totally wasted.   

Surely JRC, when the meter is off you take the direct route. Apols in advance Sunday wine I couldn't stop myself. 

[Sonny Crockett]

That we are able to give a rating once a booking has gone past. That is regardless of whether the WG acknowledges the booking or not. Then the punter can give a negative rating if the WG wasted his time or gave poor service, or a positive for excellent service. At present the punter can only leave feedback without a rating, unless the WG marks the booking as confirmed.

[HappyandLucky]

That we are able to give a rating once a booking has gone past. That is regardless of whether the WG acknowledges the booking or not. Then the punter can give a negative rating if the WG wasted his time or gave poor service, or a positive for excellent service. At present the punter can only leave feedback without a rating, unless the WG marks the booking as confirmed.

A good idea. At the present time AW reviews are generally worthless to me, hence I don't bother with feedback on AW anymore 

[Anadin]

Ban Cam only girls from advertising as escorts. If you have no escorting feedback after months of being online or claim you need to "impress me on cam first" then the box gets automatically unticked.

Maybe have some verified punters who say act as Mystery Shoppers and who's reviews hold more sway than others.

Everyone has digital cameras so we should have a better verification system and reward those who've passed it and have accurate decent pics placed higher up search listing, no reason why the WGs couldn't pay for the privilege.

[Sonny Crockett]

Ban Cam only girls from advertising as escorts. If you have no escorting feedback after months of being online or claim you need to "impress me on cam first" then the box gets automatically unticked.

Very good idea. Too many falsely advertise themselves as escorts. If they request once again to advertise themselves as escorts and don't escort, then their profiles should be banned with no chance of coming back.

[claretandblue]

No problem.

1. Click on the profile.

2. Scroll to the bottom of the page, and click on the link at the bottom left labelled 'Authentic member?'.

3. Scroll to the bottom of the page, and click on the link at the bottom near centre labelled 'If you believe that XXX is in breach of our Terms of Use, then please report them to us here' - a dialogue box will appear with a number of options.

4. Click on 'Fake profiles' (or other, as necessary) and give reason - I usually copy the Tineye link to prove that photos are fake.

5. Click on 'submit report'.

I've used this numerous times, and as far as I can remember, AW have never failed to remove the profile I have reported within a day. 

Cheers, there are a couple of profiles that I will report later

[Ben4454]

I would like to see the reverse booking procedures changed. A system in place where if they bid and I accept that bid then a booking is automatically taken and accepted. It is too easy for people to bid then decide they're too busy for that booking or generally messing people about.

The feedback system needs to be changed also. Tit for tat negative feedbacks is not good. It renders the entire system useless. Guys are afraid to leave negative feedback and girls are afraid to leave negative feedback.

Verfication pictures for every profile would be good. Deters bait n switches. At the moment you could probably hold up a newspaper smiling and get a verification picture accepted.

Agreed with the top comment about banning webcammers advertising as escorts or escorts 'being on holiday' every day of the year and leaving their profile for private gallery scams. I know a girl who has been on holiday since 2011 and her profile is logged into everyday and never takes bookings.

[YoungBrum]

1) No hiding of feedback
2) Must have pictures either on main profile or in gallery
3) Filters for who escorts won't see. As a 21 yo black guy I get hit with "too young" or "whites only" a lot
4) Expand the nationality search so you can have 'only X' instead of 'include/exclude X'
5) AW itself needs to remove profiles which are obviously fake
6) Removal of either bareback or unprotected sex as they are the same thing. Some girls have one listed but not the other and it gets confusing

[tantric talents]

One very quick and easy change would be to add fingering to the preferences list. why is fingering missing?

Oh but it is there! Every time I logon to the site I see that American centre finger held up towards me, the punter...

[Marmalade]

It would be helpful to distinguish what people would like from suggestions that might be workable. Most of the suggestions so far qualify as 'likes' but would be unworkable or unacceptable to other punters in practice.

[Kensal]

Postcode search

I'd like the postcode search to include full postcode, not because I want someone right on my doorstep but it would just allow a finer tuning for search.

Living in London, as I'm sure is the case for many larger city dwellers means the density of the place equals lots of options and actually since I'm one end of the wider post code in city terms results up the other end can be quite far. Often other postal areas (which I will search separately) are much more convenient. If I could just search full post code, or at lest the first number of the second half it would give me much more control over my search.