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Author Topic: Nik's 21 rules of punting.  (Read 17902 times)

  Excellent post NIK, I've not seen it before but it's gold!

  Don't despair, most books don't sell many copies:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110201173405AANfzfJ

http://www.hughhowey.com/most-books-dont-sell/

Offline NIK

  Excellent post NIK, I've not seen it before but it's gold!

  Don't despair, most books don't sell many copies:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110201173405AANfzfJ

http://www.hughhowey.com/most-books-dont-sell/

Exactly.
Some of the bollocks the fantasists on the kindle forums come out with about selling hundreds of copies a week every week is right up there with fluffy twats who reckons they've never had a bad punt!  :crazy:

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Think that sales are impacted as UKP'ers like me need to be able to pay discretely.  This is the problem.  Presuming the book is available on soft copy then no issue storing / reading.  I'm going rack my brains as to how this conundrum could be solved.  Must be a way using the likes of UKash.  Would be worth paying more to use something like PAYG mobile credits.  I know that this costs more than paying by credit card / online.  But its hassle / effort using a different mechanism.  And in the grand scheme of things if i pay a bit extra for PAYG top ups then it makes no material difference overall.  When it comes to looking @ PG for example.  So how to apply the same to get your book ??

I was denegrating being single only yesterday, but I've since realised it has it's plus points;

I can buy Nik's book and leave it on the bedside cabinet without worrying about a misses or GF finding it and bending my ear!  :sarcastic:

There's always a plus side eh?  :D

Offline NIK

Well it turns out the paperback purchase has made me the grand total of 3p! :blush:  I remember the last time a UKP member bought a paperback it didn't make me anything because I was apparently not charging enough so I raised the price slightly. Would have to raise it by about a fiver though to make anything for me and seeing as it's selling fuck all at the current price that isn't an option.
Would need to sell about 10,000 to raise the price of a punt!   :D

At least the kindle downloads make me a couple of quid each time.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2016, 03:26:45 PM by NIK »

No worries Nik;  I've just ordered the Kindle version too  :D

Offline Sonny Crockett

1.   Price does not correlate to service in this business. An experience costing £100 can be as good if not better than one costing £250 plus, although if  someone is charging less than £50 it will most likely be shite. Agree with this from past experience

2.   Nearly all wgs in my experience do not look as good as their photographs which often flatter them. Depends on the lady in general. Some look better in the flesh, than their photos.

3.   Girls who ask for the money and then assiduously count it before stashing it away are never as good as those who are more laid back about it. The attitude to money at the beginning of a punt is often the real indicator of what is to follow. Depends on the lady's general attitude throughout the booking.

4.   Similarly girls who offer you a drink are usually better than those who don’t. Depends on the lady's attitude throughout. I've had good times with lady's who don't offer drinks and with those who do.

5.   Girls who greet you with a proper mouth kiss are going to be better than those who don’t or those who ostentatiously present their cheeks to kiss. Absolutely agree. French kissing is a magnificent starter.

6.   Good girls are good from the very first appointment. If one is bad she won’t get any better, although occasionally some girls’ levels of service can decline over time. With one lady, I found that she was just as good, if not better than when I first saw her. However in my experience, I have often found that the second meet is not always as good.

7.   Similarly service will not improve during a punt if it begins unpromisingly. Only on a couple of occasions have I experienced a decent punt that has begun indifferently. On a couple of occasions I had punts that started slowly, then generally got better. Otherwise a poor start normally means a poor punt for me.

8.   The above factors help me work out almost immediately whether the punt is going to be a good one or not. In later years I was seldom wrong, sussing them out within a couple of minutes or even less. I think that research and booking punts in advance helps in that respect.

9.    Don’t be afraid to make your excuses and leave should you get bad vibes. One of my biggest regrets in punting is that I didn’t do it more often in the early days. I feel that I should have done that a lot more.

10.   Pimps and receptionists tell lies. And Pro$$ies as well.

11.   Nearly all paid sex forums - apart from the excellent UK Punting! - are established to make profits for their owners. As these profits are largely derived from the money service providers pay to advertise, they discourage and in some cases suppress negative views of the industry.  Quite simply they are there to serve the interests of pimps and prossies rather than punters. I was never a member of any of the Pro$$ie-centric forums.... THANK GOD!!!

12.   Hearing a wg’s voice wherever possible is worth a dozen emails and text communications. Absolutely agree. Telephoning a WG can help gauge whether she is interested in seeing you and doing the services you are asking, especially complex ones like roleplay. E-mails and texts say nothing.

13.   If they are working from a dump the service is likely to be crap. Venue quality is certainly a big factor in how well the punt will go. A shit venue tends to put me off my stride. However I must say there was one crap venue that I did meet a few years ago, and that meet was one of the best I ever had.

14.   Punters who tell you they have never had a bad punt are either easily satisfied or liars. No comment.

15.   Just because there are far more positive field reports than negative ones does not mean that this is a true reflection. Many punters don’t report bad uns for fear of receiving rebuttals or because they prefer to block it from their memory. I know these reasons to be true as I have experienced them myself. The true ratio is probably nearer 50/50. Absolutely true. Whenever a negative review is written, pro$$ies give abuse as they would love to continue their bad ways.

16.   Far more men pay for sex than will ever admit to it. No comment.

17.   Prossies always insist they pay tax. Not something that I see as relevant to me as a punter.

18.   Wg’s who have a full time ‘proper’ job are often more reliable than those who are full time prossies. Depends on the WG's overall attitude and approach, whether full-time or part-time.

19.   Never set out on a long journey unless you have a full address or a plan B, C and D in that locality. That is something I should do myself. Three times in 2015 did I set off to a city/town for a punt, only to be fucked over by the pro$$ie.

20.   Like chasing gambling losses, chasing punting losses often leads to disappointment. If you have a bad ‘un it’s usually better to call it a day and go for a pint rather than seek out another one. Pretty much common when I was fucked over by the pro$$ie and sought plan B or C. Rarely do they turn out good.

21.   And finally don’t ever believe punting can be a substitute for love. Even if a wg tells you that you are a special client, a ‘client’ is all you will ever be. Totally agree with that statement.
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No worries Nik;  I've just ordered the Kindle version too  :D
NIK - how much do you get for the sale of a kindle edition?  That's how I read most of my books these days.

Offline NIK

NIK - how much do you get for the sale of a kindle edition?  That's how I read most of my books these days.

About £2.00.

Offline bensonhedges20

I think the kindle market is mkre female oriented.

Stick it on android market and u have a sale guaranteed :)
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Offline mh

I think the kindle market is mkre female oriented.

I don't agree. Judging from sitting round the pool daily on a recent holiday, I saw a very equal number of men and women using a Kindle. If anything the women were the ones more likely to have succumbed to the temptation of a thick bonkbuster with a watercolour image covers bought in haste at the airport. Kindle makes it very easy to read a book you'd rather not have people know you're reading!

Offline bensonhedges20

My friend repairs electronics. Hes had a 80:20 ratio of customers in London who have broken the display on a kindle.

At work a girl regularly uses the kindle. I only know of one guy with a kindle.

Regardless,

Nik should in a way put his book out there and then use the funds gained from the sales as a ounting fund. No doubt it was or is a plan of his.
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My friend repairs electronics. Hes had a 80:20 ratio of customers in London who have broken the display on a kindle.

At work a girl regularly uses the kindle. I only know of one guy with a kindle.

Regardless,

Nik should in a way put his book out there and then use the funds gained from the sales as a ounting fund. No doubt it was or is a plan of his.
But based on  what he says he has earned from sales, he would need to look at the lower end of the market - and we all know that is not what he wants!  :hi:

Offline NIK

For anyone who still might perchance give a flying fuck just to let you know my book will be discounted to 99p for a week from Wednesday.  :D

Offline drwho

Nik
Do you do your book in a pdf format?

I'd be prepared to send £4 direct to you by PayPal.

Don't want to have to set up kindle software just for the one book.

Nik
Do you do your book in a pdf format?

I'd be prepared to send £4 direct to you by PayPal.

Don't want to have to set up kindle software just for the one book.

Hi drwho

I think Amazon have an online version of the Kindle reader that can be accessed via the website / book library.

Might be worth a look if you fancy reading NIK's book  :hi:

Offline NIK

Hi drwho

I think Amazon have an online version of the Kindle reader that can be accessed via the website / book library.

Might be worth a look if you fancy reading NIK's book  :hi:

He's sorted!  :D  Thanks anyway.

Offline drwho

Yeah thanks a lot Nik. Stayed up late last night giggling to myself...

Very entertaining, right from the start :thumbsup:

Offline Marmalade

I cant exactly have it delivered to my door hence asking for an ebook.

For many areas you can have delivered to a pickup location. Never used that facility but one of my local coop supermarkets has a pickup place.

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Not.a fan of amazon as it stays in account history forever.

True, but if you've ordered anything you would rather no-one else sees you can at least go into your order history and hide that particular purchase. I'm maybe only guessing as to why you might be worried about it being there. Do you share an Amazon account? They're password protected but not much use if someone else were to know.

Online scoobyboy72

For anyone who still might perchance give a flying fuck just to let you know my book will be discounted to 99p for a week from Wednesday.  :D

Just ordered it on amazon now so you still get your £2

Offline mh

For many areas you can have delivered to a pickup location. Never used that facility but one of my local coop supermarkets has a pickup place.

Yes and if you are especially paranoid then in some places there are electronically controlled lockers for collection.

Offline NIK

Just ordered it on amazon now so you still get your £2

Thanks for this.  Enjoy! :thumbsup:

Would have been a bit cheaper for you if you'd waited til tomorrow though.  :D

Online scoobyboy72

Thanks for this.  Enjoy! :thumbsup:

Would have been a bit cheaper for you if you'd waited til tomorrow though.  :D

You'd lose out then though. £3.49 is still a cracking price for over 500 pages!

Offline Marmalade

For anyone who still might perchance give a flying fuck just to let you know my book will be discounted to 99p for a week from Wednesday.  :D

Poundland Porn?  :D

Interesting that Nik 'knows' the discount is coming up... If Amazon reduce the price then the author normally still gets the same royalty but if the author discounts royalties then that comes off his punting and gambling budget.

Online scoobyboy72

Started reading this last night, cracking read so far and quite funny!


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