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Pussydoc

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Corbin. Said today in daily mail. Prostitution shoul d not be a crime , what should be done by the government is every profile on Aw should be made to register with HMRC  if not kick off or do like other countries do  block it , enough large company's  robin uk of tax  is McDonald's. Facebook and a few more. ,,, I pay my tax why not  them.

Pussydoc

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Corbin. Said today in daily mail. Prostitution shoul d not be a crime , what should be done by the government is every profile on Aw should be made to register with HMRC  if not kick off or do like other countries do  block it , enough large company's  robin uk of tax  is McDonald's. Facebook and a few more. ,,, I pay my tax why not  them.

It isn't.  :hi:

Pussydoc

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I know , as its legal the they should pay taxes every single one that was my point, CORBYN  is really badly informed some parts of prostitution are a crime especially for the guys

Offline Nagilum

I know , as its legal the they should pay taxes every single one that was my point, CORBYN  is really badly informed some parts of prostitution are a crime especially for the guys

Taxation would mean an increase in prices, careful what you wish for.

Offline Marmalade

Corbyn might be a twat but I don't think he's quite that ignorant.  :hi:

vw

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Taxation would mean an increase in prices, careful what you wish for.

Yes some people really don't think, and should not be encouraging price rises on here !

Same with weed and coke, these people who never get arrested for doing it want it legalised but don't realise the financial implications of legalising stuff !

Offline Nagilum

Yes some people really don't think, and should not be encouraging price rises on here !

Same with weed and coke, these people who never get arrested for doing it want it legalised but don't realise the financial implications of legalising stuff !

+1

is there a way I could agree more!

Offline Marmalade

Most folk don't get the difference between legalising and decriminalising. As far as I can see, the first means making it subject to certain laws and the second means removing any criminal offence associated with it.

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For instance, homosexuality in this country was decriminalised. The only country I know of that comes to mind that has decriminalised prostitution is New Zealand. Many countries have legalised it. Most anti-abolitionists favour decriminalisation, which seems to be the best.

Ben4454

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Basically for a lot of politicians criminalising punters is an easy target to score cheap points in parliament.

Offline Sex Bob-omb

Being a 100% cash business the tax returns from wg's will all show earnings of £10k a year, I'd guarantee you that.

Pussydoc

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They could pay taxes and still have good  money , bareing  in mind a lot of girls claim benefits and   Still  escort  , they can't earn without us , we can't fiddle tax why should they do ,

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Taxation would mean an increase in prices, careful what you wish for.

Would it?  I think the prices they charge are based on supply and demand not their costs.  They are helped by it being an imperfect market with a lack of proper information - which UKP really helps with.

If all legal and taxed that would impact the market in many ways and one might be to increase the supply as more girls feel able to take up the job.


Offline smiths

Corbin. Said today in daily mail. Prostitution shoul d not be a crime , what should be done by the government is every profile on Aw should be made to register with HMRC  if not kick off or do like other countries do  block it , enough large company's  robin uk of tax  is McDonald's. Facebook and a few more. ,,, I pay my tax why not  them.

All very simple for me, I pay my taxes and they go towards employing tax collectors and its their job to collect tax owed, they should be doing this with everyone including WGs and pimps, and just to confirm HMRC WILL take tax from a pimp even though the pimp is breaking the law, they might get nicked at any time though of course.

I wonder how much tax A/W pays and where it pays it, it must make a lot of money.

Offline Jimmyredcab

This "crusade" to get pro$$ies paying tax is futile, what about the thousands of EE girls who come and go.

The only way girls will get caught is if someone "informs" on them and that leads to an investigation by HMRC, they would have the power to search property records and bank accounts.

Adultwork will never be forced to hand over details, it's not going to happen.

Offline mh

A TED talk from an English WG. Very well said.

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Now, does anyone know her profile?  :cool:

overdone

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I'll offer my services to do the girls fucks - I mean books  :lol:, you never know what you might get back

Offline Marmalade

A TED talk from an English WG. Very well said.
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Fucking heartbreaking! And all credit to her for a brilliantly delivered talk.  :hi:

I hope some people in the House of Commons see it.

(A rather enthusiastic round of applause at the end I noticed, even for a TED talk.)

Offline G.Raff

Corbyn is trying to wiggle out of a difficult situation as he is a declared Feminist but also advocates to legalise prostitution and making sex workers safer.
The Feminist movement is alarmed, they see prostitution as a form of abuse by men towards women  :manhater: (funny how they don't think that a woman is perfectly capable of deciding for herself what she wants to do with her own body  :wackogirl: ) so they will put pressure on Corbyn, so he will probably advocate to criminalise the consumption of sex which will mean that the punters will be the target.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2016, 09:05:45 pm by G.Raff »

Offline Marmalade

Corbyn is trying to wiggle out of a difficult situation as he is a declared Feminist but also advocates to legalise prostitution and making sex workers safer.
Watch the video that mh has posted. Prostitutes are opposed to legalisation and pro-decriminalisation (she explains why). Corbyn, as far as I understand, favours decriminalisation.

Offline Jimmyredcab


The Feminist movement is alarmed, they see prostitution as a form of abuse by men towards women 

I have always struggled to understand that point of view.

Suppose a pro$$ie charges £120 an hour and sees two clients a day Monday to Friday, she has cleared £1200 tax free.

How is she being "abused" ----- am I missing something.  :unknown:

Gonzo Vegetable

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There's an article on today's New Statesman website, by a radical feminist, with the title"A modest proposal for making the sex industry safer. Make punters get a license"
It  actually sounds very reasonable until the end. If I understand it correctly, it's just a license to ask an escort for penetrative sex for money.  And you have to pay the escort her fee, whether or not you have sex. So it's not really clear to me what you are really paying her for.( You might as well ask a non sex worker for sex because if she says "no" you've haven't lost out. )
OK, it's intended to eliminate economic pressure to do the job. But I just wonder if the author of the article has had a  cleaner or a babysitter, and offered to pay her the money whether or not she consented to do the job. I don't know about anyone else, but economic pressure is the only reason I do my job.
It would be fairer if the same license system applied to marriage. Then there would be a level playing field.  If when proposing marriage men had to guarantee the equivalent of a divorce settlement if his intended said "no." (That would soon put a stop to rich old men getting trophy brides and penetrating them. )
Anyway it seems like it's only really penetrative sex that the article objects to so I suppose there's always the option of a greasy tit fuck.
 


Gonzo Vegetable

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« Last Edit: March 08, 2016, 09:32:32 pm by Gonzo Vegetable »

ramrodronnie

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A TED talk from an English WG. Very well said.

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Now, does anyone know her profile?  :cool:


Thanks for sharing this mh. IMO that speech was excellent! and made total sense. I think that all politicians in the UK should watch this video. As the WG who made this speech IMO was talking real sensible stuff.
To me the New Zealand model was the most common sense model.
Everyone needs to watch this speech. Brilliant!

Miles_North

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Decriminalized is the best way forward for both clients and sex workers. The lady in the YouTube link clearly explains why. I don't care about the taxes part, only that non abusive clients and the girls themselves are both safe. Decrim helps best suit this as New Zealand has shown. Legalisation sounds great and has benefits, however it creates a two tier system,gangs pimps can also gain control under the umbrella of legal businesses like large super brothels etc. This means the control is taken out of girls hands, cheap wages and long hours to make the same pay. Not good for them or for punters. I'm fine with a girl serving me my burger near the end of a long shift but when it comes to intimate services where you have payed a lot you want  a good attention to detail and not someone half a sleep and over worked. Not fair on them or us

Offline G.Raff

I think most sensible people will agree with the above, problem is that we cannot have a proper debate on the subject as long as the Feminazis have such an influence on the matter.  Ironically they are the ones who will not allow sex workers a say in the debate.. go figure  :unknown:
« Last Edit: March 09, 2016, 01:44:47 am by G.Raff »

Offline Donnie69

How will the Feminazis cope when Muslims make it legal for them to rape white women?

5th Musketeer

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Fucking heartbreaking! And all credit to her for a brilliantly delivered talk.  :hi:

I hope some people in the House of Commons see it.

(A rather enthusiastic round of applause at the end I noticed, even for a TED talk.)
Wow!  What a brilliant talk - superbly delivered AND without notes.  More power to her.

Offline mh

Wow!  What a brilliant talk - superbly delivered AND without notes.  More power to her.

Going by other Ted talks, I suspect there were teleprompts, but it was so well presented who cares about that.

5th Musketeer

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Going by other Ted talks, I suspect there were teleprompts, but it was so well presented who cares about that.
I was looking for those too - but in the cut-away shots I couldn't see any props.  As you say "who cares" - the delivery was very powerful.  There are quite a few CEOs who could learn from her!   :drinks:

Gonzo Vegetable

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There's an article on today's New Statesman website, by a radical feminist, with the title"A modest proposal for making the sex industry safer. Make punters get a license"
It  actually sounds very reasonable until the end. If I understand it correctly, it's just a license to ask an escort for penetrative sex for money.  And you have to pay the escort her fee, whether or not you have sex. So it's not really clear to me what you are really paying her for.( You might as well ask a non sex worker for sex because if she says "no" you've haven't lost out. )
OK, it's intended to eliminate economic pressure to do the job. But I just wonder if the author of the article has had a  cleaner or a babysitter, and offered to pay her the money whether or not she consented to do the job. I don't know about anyone else, but economic pressure is the only reason I do my job.
It would be fairer if the same license system applied to marriage. Then there would be a level playing field.  If when proposing marriage men had to guarantee the equivalent of a divorce settlement if his intended said "no." (That would soon put a stop to rich old men getting trophy brides and penetrating them. )
Anyway it seems like it's only really penetrative sex that the article objects to so I suppose there's always the option of a greasy tit fuck.

Maybe my post wasn't 100% fair.
 At least radical feminists are now considering the  reform of punting and prostitution, rather than their complete prohibition.
So progress is being made.
It just seems an unworkable scheme.
The articles' author can't be blamed for not knowing knowing this, but a lot of the time sex workers advertising doesn't match up to the services they actually provide.
In my experience, sometimes you're refused the  services that have been advertised; this particularly with French kissing.
Sometimes i've been offered services which haven't been advertised, e.g. bareback (I haven't been offered bareback by anyone I've reviewed or mentioned on this forum.)
I've even been refused French kissing by someone who advertised it, but she asked me if I wanted bareback which she didn't advertise.
So paying the escort a flat fee and leaving it entirely up to her what she does or doesn't do with you, with no negotiation - well what could possibly go wrong with that?  :dash:   :dash:  :dash:
On the other hand I was reading a blog by an American prossie who said review sites by publicising services actually delivered put pressure on sex workers, to provide more services than they want to across the board. Instead of tailoring services individually to the client. I think what tailoring services individually to the client  means is doing more with the  ones they fancy (The big breasted black haired cutie Polish C****** Cloisters modus operandi) . Which is really fair enough . But the best thing in that case is just advertised the minimum services you're prepared to do, assuming the punter is clean, not a psycho and has the right money. Then you can offer bonus services to the hot clients on the understanding they don't  put it in any reviews.