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Author Topic: Withheld phone numbers.  (Read 2086 times)

Offline Jimmyredcab

There is a thread elsewhere about punters withholding their phone number, the WG's claim that displaying a phone number gives them added security, that is cobblers surely, most savvy punters use a PAYG phone that is unregistered so in the event of a robbery etc there would be no way of tracing the call.
Just for the record, I always display my number -------- but I have a shit phone worth about a tenner.

I always that it was because 99% of calls from withheld numbers were either abusive
 or saddos looking for free phone sex...

Offline Dani

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Most punters dont read forums so have no idea about having a seperate punting phone.
I have found that a high percentage of those calling on a witheld number never turn up.  Most are just timewasters who withold their number for obvious reasons (some girls will not just shrug it off and will ring and ring and ring giving abuse, just read the threads on Saafe about girls doing just that).

Someone new to punting though is going to be nervous and will probably withold his number as he does not know how it is supposed to work, i.e we never contact the client.  This is why I do often allow bookings to be made but only if it is not a busy day so that I do not lose genuine bookings.  Its a shame that again the idiots ruined it for the genuine people.  Some clients wont give their number anymore due to girls ringing and girl wont give them bookings due to timewasters using witheld numbers. 

As for security that is just bollocks and sounds better than saying 'it is incase you are a timewaster', as so many people have a PAYG sim that is registered to no one at all. You can buy them in any bloody shop nowadays.  If a pro$$ie is relying on that for her security then she should not be doing this job anyway as she needs far more set up than relying on phone numbers
« Last Edit: October 10, 2012, 01:12:01 PM by Dani »

Offline Jimmyredcab

I always that it was because 99% of calls from withheld numbers were either abusive
 or saddos looking for free phone sex...

Could you give us some idea how you arrive at that figure of 99%, that sounds slightly on the high side to me.  :unknown:

Offline Jimmyredcab



Someone new to punting though is going to be nervous and will probably withold his number as he does not know how it is supposed to work, i.e we never contact the client.  This is why I do often allow bookings to be made but only if it is not a busy day so that I do not lose genuine bookings. 

That sounds like good business sense to me. Girls who never answer these calls must lose thousands over the year, another option would be to ask the client to ring back with his number showing if he decides to make a definate booking.

Could you give us some idea how you arrive at that figure of 99%, that sounds slightly on the high side to me.  :unknown:

ffs Jim,  I'm not the ONS - was just exaggerating to make a point !! :)

Offline Ali Katt

That sounds like good business sense to me. Girls who never answer these calls must lose thousands over the year, another option would be to ask the client to ring back with his number showing if he decides to make a definate booking.
I think if the number's witheld you can't ring or text back.

Many WGs like to see a number, simply because they have the option of blocking them.

Offline Jimmyredcab

ffs Jim,  I'm not the ONS - was just exaggerating to make a point !! :)

Yes, and that was why I queried it.  ;)

Offline Jimmyredcab

Can you imagine some of these more mature ladies sitting there looking at a dusty phone, when it eventually rings they see it is a withheld number ------ my guess is that they will answer it.  ;)

Offline Sarahs Back

why do you assume that by weeding out the dick heads and time wasters that we are loosing out all the time......
I never answer my phone anyway so withheld means nothing to me.....
but I do know
withheld numbers ARE normally 99% of the time time wasters...
chatting shit,
or book you to knock on someone else's door for a laugh....
or they know they might have to cancel just before
or its is someones girlfriend/wife trying to find out who the last person he spoke to was
or its someone who thinks they know who you are and want to hear your voice
some are hotels.... but when they realise you wont answer they use a normal phone


I probably get one withheld number a month..... so would I really be loosing out!

Offline AnthG

If given the choice I would rather withhold my number. For the simple reason escorts have proven there are totally clueless when it comes to discretion.

It is these timewasters sections on forums that annoys me.

Recently as an example I tried to book a booking at Gosforth. Now I had only really driven to Gosforth on a Sunday when learning to drive. I was knocked for six driving there for a 12pm week day booking the whole area was jam packed and there was absolutely no place to park.

It was 11.56am and I had no where to park so I was starting to worry I am going to have no way to make this booking. Luckily I found somewhere and was only 5 mins late for my booking due to it (and legging it down the street to get there). But it was touch and go.

Now if I had of not found that spot by a grace of fortunes and needed to go home. I get the feeling I would have been classed as a "timewaster" and thus could have had my number posted up on these forums with my name and all sorts of others stuff. Its just totally stupid situation.

Offline mofukker

why do you assume that by weeding out the dick heads and time wasters that we are loosing out all the time......
withheld numbers ARE normally 99% of the time time wasters...
chatting shit,
I probably get one withheld number a month..... so would I really be loosing out!
agree
but even if i show my number , i can still be a timewaster, as jrc said its a payg disposable number, if i wanted i could waste your time, then i can just get a new number and do it again so you can never be sure

Offline ali123

I once called and spoke to a girl in in the afternoon, queried her what time she works till as I was thinking to make a booking for the evening.  I didn't make the booking but I wish I did, to screw the shit out of her, because the fucking bitch sent a text to my personal number in the evening saying "Hi, are you coming tonight?"  :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash:

TRY FUCKING EXPLAINING THAT TO THE MISSUS!! I was in a right old shit I was :( Those were the days when I was new to punting.  I am wiser now  :rolleyes:

Offline Sailormack

Pro$$ies "forget" to buy condoms and their mobies are forever needing topped up. A lot of them live in shitholes where their "boyfriends" are next door in a drug haze enjoying the fruits of her labour.

And some would want us to believe that discretion is at the top of their list of priorities  :unknown:

That is some good shit they are taking  :yahoo:

Offline Ali Katt

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Now if I had of not found that spot by a grace of fortunes and needed to go home. I get the feeling I would have been classed as a "timewaster" and thus could have had my number posted up on these forums with my name and all sorts of others stuff. Its just totally stupid situation.
I mean the whole timewaster debate is probably another topic in itself. I agree with you on this one, some prossies are too keen to call any potential client who has circumstances a timewaster, simply because they aren't as busy as they would like or don't enjoy shagging for cash so need some morale support from their sisters who will call any man a dickhead.

I've walked from punts because the prossie in question had a bad attitude; by WG standards that would make me a timewaster, but the problem isn't with me.

At the end of the day WGs can be as bigger timewasters as men, simply because they don't have their shit together. Lots of WGs give crap directions, move bookings back (once is my limit), cancel bookings for bullshit reasons, don't answer calls, don't give decent replies to emails etc. I don't bother with them, plenty of WGs who want the money and are professional.

Offline Dani

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Some people are classed as timewasters too easily.  He rang me to enquire if I was free later but he did not make an actual booking so he is a timewaster is one of the favourites on saafe.  A timewaster is someone who repeatedly calls and makes the same enquiry just to try and get sex talk or someone who makea booking for an hours time and then does not show up and does not contact you either before or after to apologise.

Sometimes people have to cancel appointments and cannot let us know right away for instance the missus came home early and he cant ring or text you as she is with him but as long as he lets ypou know later why, then he is not a timewaster.  Its all about showing a bit of respect and letting someone know that you did intend to turn up but circumstances changed that.  Its the people who do not let you know either before or after that get classed as timewasters by me because anyone can send a quick text saying something like sorry I did not make it but circumstances prevented me from contacting you.  Its just good manners.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Some people are classed as timewasters too easily.  He rang me to enquire if I was free later but he did not make an actual booking so he is a timewaster is one of the favourites on saafe. 

Saafe will always make the punter wrong. Sometimes I will speak to a girl and not like her attitude, if she can't be pleasant on the phone for a few minutes I don't want to risk my money by booking her, according to Saafe I would be a timewaster.  :thumbsdown:

Offline AnthG

Saafe will always make the punter wrong. Sometimes I will speak to a girl and not like her attitude, if she can't be pleasant on the phone for a few minutes I don't want to risk my money by booking her, according to Saafe I would be a timewaster.  :thumbsdown:

I still remember the booking I tried to make around last June/July where she was on tour, staying in a hotel and I could not understand her accent as to which hotel so asked her to repeat it about 3/4 times. She went frigging psycho down the phone accusing me of playing with myself. And then shouting and screaming "where are you, where are you, where are you!!!!".

She probably had me down as a timewaster after the call.

Offline James999

There is a thread elsewhere about punters withholding their phone number, the WG's claim that displaying a phone number gives them added security,

It's total bollocks, years ago there was no such thing as caller ID and pro$$ies coped ok then.

Lots of pro$$ies store numbers & text tout and as such it is a sensible precaution for some punters  :hi:

Pro$$ies also need to move with the times and realise that often a witheld number is due to the server on the building / business as opposed to the client choosing to withold.

It's all bollocks anyway as most pro$$ies answere the phone if it rings regardless of the number being witheld, but of course they don't admit to  others they do this  :hi:

Offline Jimmyredcab

agree
but even if i show my number , i can still be a timewaster, as jrc said its a payg disposable number, if i wanted i could waste your time, then i can just get a new number and do it again so you can never be sure

I have seen SIM cards for sale at £5, that is hardly going to deter timewasters.  :rolleyes:

Offline Jimmyredcab



It's all bollocks anyway as most pro$$ies answere the phone if it rings regardless of the number being witheld, but of course they don't admit to  others they do this  :hi:

Yes quite.
What they do and what they SAY they do are often very different.
One girl stated on her profile that she does not negotiate prices, I told her that I was only prepared to pay £120 as oppose to her quoted rate of £150 ------------ she agreed on the condition that I kept it to myself.

Offline Sarahs Back

time wasters............(not withheld)
him..... hi how are you,
me....... fine thanks
him.......what you up to
me..... out at mo
him......doing what
me .......working
him ...... what do you do?!!!!!

time waster.........
him.... can I book you
me...... yes im free at ???
him.... can you wear white stockings and a white all in one please
me.... yes hun can I have address
him..... great the address is....hotel????
me.... im in car park can I have room number
him ....yes ???
me.....why arnt you answering the door
him..... I thought you was gonna dresse up for me and not worn a long coat and leggings
me..... are you really that thick


The phone has a unique IMEI number and logging system in UK and the police can get a great deal from the handset that isnt apparent. You only need to go into an Apple store and see what they can get off an ipad/iphone (scary).

I know this as a friend of mine in the blue has told me a few stories...

Using different SIMs etc with the same handset in a catalogue of crime could be picked up, changing the SIM in effect only changes the number not the history or whereabouts of the handset!

Offline Sarahs Back

and funny as hell when at old Bailey and listening to the wigs reciting the delete text and emails in one monotone
erm can i point out I just went to watch and was not involved in anything


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