Viagra / Cialis (Tadalafil) - Discussion Thread

[mh]

This thread revival made me realise that Anth hasn't posted for a couple of weeks! Hope he's on a nice winter break in a land with many punting opportunities...

[skittish]

This thread revival made me realise that Anth hasn't posted for a couple of weeks! Hope he's on a nice winter break in a land with many punting opportunities...

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I almost started a thread asking what's happened to Anth and Crackpott although I suspect Crackpott may be in Thailand?

[mh]

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I almost started a thread asking what's happened to Anth and Crackpott although I suspect Crackpott may be in Thailand?

Perhaps he took Anth with him. I suspect his eyes would be so wide they'd never close properly again! 

[Horizontal pleasures]

Cheapest Kamagra soft tabs

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80p per tab

[Curious6705]

Kamagra has been interesting for me -

Started with 25mg - which AIUI is the smallest prescribed dose - I bought 100mg tablets and halved and quartered them with a pill cutter - and it worked well.

I used it several times between Xmas and several weeks into January and by then a 100mg tablet produced no side effects - but also no main effect. I appeared to have developed a tolerance for it. I didn't take any for 6 weeks, and tried it again - a 100 mg tablet - and it worked once more. Interesting ...

[SteveNova]

Kamagra has been interesting for me -

Started with 25mg - which AIUI is the smallest prescribed dose - I bought 100mg tablets and halved and quartered them with a pill cutter - and it worked well.

I used it several times between Xmas and several weeks into January and by then a 100mg tablet produced no side effects - but also no main effect. I appeared to have developed a tolerance for it. I didn't take any for 6 weeks, and tried it again - a 100 mg tablet - and it worked once more. Interesting ...

Let us know if it works as well next time and whether you left the same gap.

Has anyone used Silagra?  It was sent instead of Kamagra by External Link/Members Only
It didn't seem quite as effective - but maybe I just wasn't feeling 100%

[AnthG]

Has anyone used Silagra?  It was sent instead of Kamagra by External Link/Members Only
It didn't seem quite as effective - but maybe I just wasn't feeling 100%

Its a 100MG of Sildenafil Citrate so it should be identical as Kamagra. If it is not working as well this suggests it could be a dodgy knock off and not containing  Sildenafil Citrate or not containing that stated dose

[AnthG]

A few people earlier on in the thread were also sent the Silagra back in October; JRC and richard1971.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=8661.msg130861#msg130861

I think they would have mentioned if it was not working for them like the Kamagra.

[SteveNova]

A few people earlier on in the thread were also sent the Silagra back in October; JRC and richard1971.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=8661.msg130861#msg130861

I think they would have mentioned if it was not working for them like the Kamagra.

That's a good point.  I'll try again with the Silagra - it may have been my lack of energy as I hadn't been well and, though feeling recovered, may not have been on top form.  I have never had a problem with the supplier and as you say it's just another form of generic Viagra.

[yumyum3]

That's a good point.  I'll try again with the Silagra - it may have been my lack of energy as I hadn't been well and, though feeling recovered, may not have been on top form.  I have never had a problem with the supplier and as you say it's just another form of generic Viagra.

It could well be that, Steve. I'm still with the same supplier thanks to you and very much enjoy half a tab an hour or so before indulging. Most enjoyable and works out around 80 pence a go 

[thetinman007]

Has anyone tried super kamagra/super p force ?, combined effects of,dapoxetine and kamagra !

[Uglybugball]

Has anyone tried super kamagra/super p force ?, combined effects of,dapoxetine and kamagra !

No, but will never have to worry about an "early finish".

Will have to give you a nic of duracell if you try those!   :timeout

[AnthG]

Has anyone tried super kamagra/super p force ?, combined effects of,dapoxetine and kamagra !

I have. Read from here onwards

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=11031.msg165096#msg165096

[Curious6705]

Let us know if it works as well next time and whether you left the same gap.

Has anyone used Silagra?  It was sent instead of Kamagra by External Link/Members Only
It didn't seem quite as effective - but maybe I just wasn't feeling 100%

Update - Kamagra has worked well for me several times over the last couple of weeks. I did lose a fair amount of weight between Christmas and the end of January. I noticed I had lost muscle mass as well as fat - so that could have played a part in Kamagra not being effective - being a bit run down without realising it - which perhaps chimes with your experience too.

[Jonahp]

Word of warning for cheap-kamagra-supplier.com

Made an order 2 weeks agob and still have not seen any delivery. Was supposed to be 1-3 days.
Emailed them after 4 days got a reply to say they where looking in to it.
Emailed again after 7 days got a reply saying we aare still lokingin to it.
Emailed again after 10 days got a reply saying technical issues at Royal Mail had not delivered the package.
Waited 3 more days (13 now) asking where my order is and what the plan is to get me what ive already paid for...
No response.

I see others have made orders with them without problems so this could  be a one off.

[Lz-129]

Word of warning for cheap-kamagra-supplier.com

Made an order 2 weeks agob and still have not seen any delivery. Was supposed to be 1-3 days.
Emailed them after 4 days got a reply to say they where looking in to it.
Emailed again after 7 days got a reply saying we aare still lokingin to it.
Emailed again after 10 days got a reply saying technical issues at Royal Mail had not delivered the package.
Waited 3 more days (13 now) asking where my order is and what the plan is to get me what ive already paid for...
No response.

I see others have made orders with them without problems so this could  be a one off.

Ordered 12 kamagra 1st thing Monday morning, 12 silagra arrived the next morning, couldn't fault the speed of the delivery but kamagra was out of stock so sent silagra instead

[Uglybugball]

Word of warning for cheap-kamagra-supplier.com

Made an order 2 weeks agob and still have not seen any delivery. Was supposed to be 1-3 days.
Emailed them after 4 days got a reply to say they where looking in to it.
Emailed again after 7 days got a reply saying we aare still lokingin to it.
Emailed again after 10 days got a reply saying technical issues at Royal Mail had not delivered the package.
Waited 3 more days (13 now) asking where my order is and what the plan is to get me what ive already paid for...
No response.

I see others have made orders with them without problems so this could  be a one off.

Haven't used that website, however, there was one I did use I had similar delvery problems with.

Took up to 8 weeks with reminder emails before they arrived. I had the delivery note references with the source of origin from India.

As I had booked an escort the following week, I had to use another supplier, that was a little more £'s, but had quick delivery.

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[AnthG]

I see others have made orders with them without problems so this could  be a one off.

I have used them twice and got both orders great but found their customer service to be lacking - they never replied to any of my emails asking where my first order was (I paid extra for 24hr delivery but it came a few days longer than that).

I guess the motto of the best way to judge a company is to see how they handle any problems. But for the prices for what you get its worth a small order with them.

If you are not sure buy with a credit card and not a debit as its easier to issue a charge back.

[Jonahp]

Word of warning for cheap-kamagra-supplier.com

Made an order 2 weeks agob and still have not seen any delivery. Was supposed to be 1-3 days.
Emailed them after 4 days got a reply to say they where looking in to it.
Emailed again after 7 days got a reply saying we aare still lokingin to it.
Emailed again after 10 days got a reply saying technical issues at Royal Mail had not delivered the package.
Waited 3 more days (13 now) asking where my order is and what the plan is to get me what ive already paid for...
No response.

I see others have made orders with them without problems so this could  be a one off.

Update, gave them several weeks without seeing the order, and every time I asked for a tracking number they replied that they were checking with Royal Mail.
After about 3 weeks I gave up and asked for a refund. Which was  credited to my account within 5 days.
alltough no delivery of order, they did refund me so I can't fault them really.

Haven't used that website, however, there was one I did use I had similar delvery problems with.

Took up to 8 weeks with reminder emails before they arrived. I had the delivery note references with the source of origin from India.

As I had booked an escort the following week, I had to use another supplier, that was a little more £'s, but had quick delivery.

External Link/Members Only

Will try this one now instead, thanks for the suggestion Uglybugball.
I don't mind paying a bit more if it's quicker and well...better service.

[billyjo]

In reference to the super p force, they turn you into a porn star, but no chance of shooting your load if you take a whole tab but rock hard for hours.

[Marmalade]

Cialis seems more likely to let you come 'naturally.' You can also get them in double-strength at almost the same price if you shop around (use with care!!!)

[AnthG]

In reference to the super p force, they turn you into a porn star, but no chance of shooting your load if you take a whole tab but rock hard for hours.

I tried half a tablet of one, the sedative effects of them are like Chloral Hydrate. It messed me up for about three days that half a tablet.

I would say take with extreme caution

[ONeil]

I haven't read the whole thread but thought I would throw in my experiences with Viagra and Cialis.

I've used both but mainly use cialis now (I only use viagra sometimes because they give me free viagra when I buy Cialis- I buy them cheaply online from an American website that ships to the UK). Going to your GP is a waste of time and money.

Both generally work within 30 mins for me - they don't give you an erection straight away, you have to become sexually aroused and then your cock becomes extremely hard very quickly, and it's then quite difficult to get the erection to go away after sex, although it will go away within 10 minutes of no sexual arousal.

Both pills I have found give me weird hallucinations sometimes, like everything looks bright with a blue tint. But by reducing the dose to three quarters or half a pill (20mg strength), these effects go away. Also I have experienced head aches with viagra, but very mild.

At 32 I think you need to ask yourself why you are using these, and that will help you find the ultimate solution.

I'm 25, I'm in very good shape, I'm healthy, and I use Cialis before having sex.

Why? I never realised why, after half a minute of penetrative sex I would go pretty limp and not be able to climax at all. I could masturbate just fine with a normal erection and climax that way, but often during sex my penis would just not respond - so I started carrying cialis in my wallet and problem solved.

I thought this might be because of nerve issues or something, but not long ago found out there are a ton of men my age with this problem and it is essentially caused by masturbating to internet porn on a daily basis, and that doing this essentially takes away the sensitivity of your penis and changes the source of arousal your brain searches for from being a physical woman in front of you, to images on the computer screen (for more info on the science behind this External Link/Members Only).

Anyway I don't know if this will help you, but might be worth looking into. You might have a genuine physical problem, but at your age it's most likely going to be something psychological, so I would look into it so that eventually you won't have to use the cialis anymore.

[Marmalade]

I am always interested in how scientific such purported studies are. I am not judging them either way. But I clicked on the first half dozen studies and they're all Chinese or Chinese publications. If they were Englush it would be a lot easier to estimate their worth, simply as it is easier to identify journals that a peer-reviewed and ones that publish all sorts of stuff. I don't mean the latter are rubbish or not written by people with scientific training and letters after their name, but when they're not independently examined you often find they include all sorts of guff, from miracle cures to breathing through alternate nostrils four times a day.

Internet addiction and porn addiction are well-established. Probably, in my case, even UKP addiction (I go cold turkey every so often). Bit the effects on the brain mentioned in the study? My immediate reaction is that they could also be influenced by shagging crap prossies on a regular basis.

In a normal relationship, where both persons are attracted to each other, the interest of the other person can be a considerable stimulus. Most prossies not only couldn't care less but are happy for the penetrative bit to be over and done with as soon as possible. While I'm not denying that fear of rejection and all sorts of things could play a part in the situation mentioned, I personally find porn (to which I'm not addicted) a healthy part of my sex life, especially to get my brain in gear on the way to a punt.

I can think of two recent punts: with one, I happen to know that the girl in question enjoys being fucked as hard as possible for as long as possible. My last few half hour bookings have consisted of 25minutes of hard fucking shagging. Another is a good looking prossie, tight enough fanny and so on, but basically an ex-sauna girl who fucks-by-numbers. After a few minutes inside her I was bored and wondering what the fuck to fill the rest of the appointment with. No way would my dick manage forever pumping a sack of smiling potatoes.

But whatever you find works for you is obviously right for you. All I'm saying is don't assume something is gospel just because of the phrase "scientific studies prove." After all L'Oreal's studies might well 'prove' that if you spend a few hundred quid on a few pence worth of moisturiser it will make your skin like Nicole Kidman's . . .

[ONeil]

I clicked on the first half dozen studies and they're all Chinese or Chinese publications.

If you're referring to the link I posted I'm not sure which studies you mean, I just watched the videos of the presentations which talk about the studies. But like you say, porn can definitely be part of a healthy sex life, it's just that for me (and many others) it can have negative effects if you watch porn on a daily basis, as your brain can become conditioned to see the route to sexual arousal and orgasm as being via porn on a screen, rather than real sex, and this can affect one's ability to acheive an errection and also orgasm during sex.

Most prossies not only couldn't care less but are happy for the penetrative bit to be over and done with as soon as possible.

Yeah i actually made a thread about this, and how annoying it can be if the girl is trying to or indicating to you that she wants you to cum before your ready – I mean are these girls not used to guys wanting to fuck for most of the time they've booked??

And yeah I agree this is another thing that can have negative effects if most of the girls you see are like this.

I can think of two recent punts: with one, I happen to know that the girl in question enjoys being fucked as hard as possible for as long as possible. My last few half hour bookings have consisted of 25minutes of hard fucking shagging.

Yeah, this is what I'm looking for. I really like to fuck long and hard in different positions - but then some WG's don't appreciate being pounded for too long (and I'm not talking 25 mins, im talking 7-8 mins). The latest girl I've seen on two occasions is awesome, really eager to make sure you're pleased, great attitude, great kissing and oral, only thing is when I'm fucking her, after a min or two or less in each position she starts trying to thrust into me in a way I find somewhat unnatural - as though she wants me to cum, or she thinks I'm having a hard time cumming, instead of just leaving me to continue setting the pace.. it kind of affects the moment for me slightly.

If you don't mind me asking, who's the girl that enjoys being fucked as hard as possible, she on AW?

[Curious6705]

I just watched the videos of the presentations which talk about the studies. But like you say, porn can definitely be part of a healthy sex life, it's just that for me (and many others) it can have negative effects if you watch porn on a daily basis, as your brain can become conditioned to see the route to sexual arousal and orgasm as being via porn on a screen, rather than real sex, and this can affect one's ability to acheive an errection and also orgasm during sex.

Sorry - but IMO this is just second hand bollocks. Fine if it makes you happy to believe it - carry on. T'Internet is full of weird and wonderful websites masquerading as authoritative and scientific. You can find one for almost any shade of opinion.

[ONeil]

Sorry - but IMO this is just second hand bollocks. Fine if it makes you happy to believe it - carry on. T'Internet is full of weird and wonderful websites masquerading as authoritative and scientific. You can find one for almost any shade of opinion.

Just type "NoFap" into google and you'll have all the evidence you need. Although I have a suspicion that you've already formed a concrete opinion and probably wont want to be swayed.

You're definitely right though that its important not to take something as gospel until you have done the necessary research and have evidence to support the claims that are being made.

[Curious6705]

Just type "NoFap" into google and you'll have all the evidence you need. Although I have a suspicion that you've already formed a concrete opinion and probably wont want to be swayed.

You're definitely right though that its important not to take something as gospel until you have done the necessary research and have evidence to support the claims that are being made.

Hey - just type "penis enhancement" into google and you'll have all the evidence you need that you can make your cock bigger. 

Gospel yeah that's the right choice of word. The world's two most popular religions claim 4.4 billion members between them. That's an awful lot of people who believe there's "gospel" and "evidence" that fairy tales are true.   

[LL]

I'm 25, I'm in very good shape, I'm healthy, and I use Cialis before having sex.

Why? I never realised why, after half a minute of penetrative sex I would go pretty limp and not be able to climax at all. I could masturbate just fine with a normal erection and climax that way, but often during sex my penis would just not respond - so I started carrying cialis in my wallet and problem solved.

Have you been in a long term relationship since you had this problem though?  The reason I ask is because I'm not able to maintain an erection when I punt (without the use of cialis or similar) but I don't have any problems at home - when I'm with my wife!

I'm not dismissing your theory that porn is the route of your problem (and I have also read that this can be the case for some).  I'm presenting an alternative - that it's down to a lack of confidence, or guilt, shame (as is in my case!).

[ONeil]

Hey - just type "penis enhancement" into google and you'll have all the evidence you need that you can make your cock bigger. 

Gospel yeah that's the right choice of word. The world's two most popular religions claim 4.4 billion members between them. That's an awful lot of people who believe there's "gospel" and "evidence" that fairy tales are true.   

Although I have a suspicion that you've already formed a concrete opinion and probably wont want to be swayed.

Like I said.. You've made your mind up 

I'm presenting an alternative - that it's down to a lack of confidence, or guilt, shame (as is in my case!).

This is what I initially thought was the problem, or if it happened while I was drunk, I would blame it on the alcohol, and I'm sure sometimes it can be a combination of all those things. But there is no doubt that excessive masturbation (in my case) to pornography can have negative effects on your sexual performance.

Although some people, as you can see from this thread don't want to think that is the case.

[Curious6705]

Like I said.. You've made your mind up 

You're keeping an open mind are you? 

But there is no doubt that excessive masturbation ... can have negative effects on your sexual performance.

No shit - really? You needed the Internet to tell you that?

Anything done to excess will have negative effects. Drink too much water and it will kill you.

[billyjo]

Placed a order from External Link/Members Only last Thursday, standard delivery but still waiting today.  Emailed them yesterday, still no reply.  Money left my bank account on Monday.

[billyjo]

Placed a order from External Link/Members Only last Thursday, standard delivery but still waiting today.  Emailed them yesterday, still no reply.  Money left my bank account on Monday.

Arrived today.

[Rochdull lad]

Pfizer's patent expires today.  Cheaper tabs now available?  External Link/Members Only

[mh]

Pfizer's patent expires today.  Cheaper tabs now available?

More importantly cheaper tabs now available without buying from dodgy websites. The dodgy websites won't go away of course and some supply effective products as we've heard many times. But hopefully there will be more sensible prices for safe, quality-controlled pills. It might happen immediately since the generic products are available elsewhere in the world.

But I assume it's still a prescription drug, not going to be an over the counter item...

[akauya]

Pfizer's patent expires today.  Cheaper tabs now available? 

I foresee stiff competition 

[pokenn]

Has anyone noticed any effect of Viagra/Cialis delaying ejaculation?

When I was young the problem was cumming too quickly. Now I'm older it's the opposite. I usually abstain for a couple of days before punting, otherwise end up being frustrated on the day.

Sorry if this has been discussed before - I haven't read through the whole thread

[AnthG]

Pfizer's patent expires today.  Cheaper tabs now available?  External Link/Members Only

Here is another story for the same thing I noticed

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[NotTooOld4It]

Has anyone noticed any effect of Viagra/Cialis delaying ejaculation?

When I was young the problem was cumming too quickly. Now I'm older it's the opposite. I usually abstain for a couple of days before punting, otherwise end up being frustrated on the day.

Sorry if this has been discussed before - I haven't read through the whole thread

Yes, this is the effect it has on me. It seems to dull the sensitivity of my glans and so delays my climax. But I look upon that as an advantage. I can have long slow shag, which is what I like best. Mind you, this effect is whist I'm wearing a condom. OWO brings me off much more quickly, but that just isn't the same.

[NotTooOld4It]

I foresee stiff competition

I'm lucky; I get mine for nothing on a free prescription because I'm over 60. I nearly fell of the floor when the doctor told me.

[Lz-129]

Has anyone noticed any effect of Viagra/Cialis delaying ejaculation?

When I was young the problem was cumming too quickly. Now I'm older it's the opposite. I usually abstain for a couple of days before punting, otherwise end up being frustrated on the day.

Sorry if this has been discussed before - I haven't read through the whole thread

Agreed, its a harder cock and harder to come..think its a trade of that's worth it though
Nothing worse than a stunning girl and a limp/lifeless cock

She just gotta try a little harder to extract your cum

[Rochdull lad]

I'm lucky; I get mine for nothing on a free prescription because I'm over 60. I nearly fell of the floor when the doctor told me.

It'll be interesting to see if those of us who've had Viagra up to now get it on our next prescriptions, NTO4I.

I heard some commentator on the radio this morning expecting GPs to start prescribing another company than Pfizer's [the company which had the patent] Sildenafil Citrate.  Purely as an economy measure for the NHS in this Age of Austerity, you understand.

[SteveNova]

I guess it won't make any difference to those of us who buy generics online from the likes of External Link/Members Only which work as well as Pfizer's product.

[AnthG]

I heard some commentator on the radio this morning expecting GPs to start prescribing another company than Pfizer's [the company which had the patent] Sildenafil Citrate.  Purely as an economy measure for the NHS in this Age of Austerity, you understand.

I don't think it will be the GPs it will be the pharmacists.

Also you make it sound like its a bad thing. Pharmacists do it all the time. I go to my pharmacist and I often see cheap versions of my tablets I am prescribed by my GP. And that is regardless of the pharmacy.

If the tablet is the same, get the cheapest.

Also going off topic but frequenly I have seen watchdog lay into Nurofen as the tablets are literally identical to the elcheapo bottles costing 20p per bottle when the Nurofen is a couple of quid. Soon (a year or so) you know there will be an expose on Sidinifil.

[Marmalade]

Except the posh nurofen are nicely enteric coated Anth, and are nicer to take. 

[Curious6705]

Except the posh nurofen are nicely enteric coated Anth, and are nicer to take. 

Sainsbury's literally sugar coat the pills - and they're one tenth the price.

[AnthG]

Thought this might be worth mentioning to anyone who could be interested in this. But today on getting my Viagra prescription. The pharmacist has gave me generic Sildenafil tablets. So far on all the previous prescriptions they had given me the actual Viagra.

So it seems the patent is definitely over and this means possibly you may be able to buy it from your Pharmacist on a private prescription from your GP much cheaper now too. Might be worth looking into.

But for those who are curious I used my phone to take a quick couple of snaps of what I got. The tablets are now totally round and no longer the easy to cut Rhombus shape (and yes I googled that word to find out the shape of Viagra tablets )

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[Qwerty]

Anyone tried Viapro or other herbal equivalent?

[LL]

Anyone tried Viapro or other herbal equivalent?

It's not worth it mate.  Go to Asda and you can buy 16 sildenfil pills at a time (after a quick chat with a pharmacist) and it will only cost you £10 for the whole lot.
You'll pay more than that for so called "herbal" equivalents.  And most of them are dangerous partly because they tend to contain ED drugs (not just herbs!) but the dosage isn't stated or even controlled.
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[adindas]

Going to your GP.

Your GP can give you either Cialis or Viagra. My GP was auto going to give me Viagra until I specifically enquired what about this other one people mention called Cialis. He then explained the difference and gave me the choice. I picked Cialis. The registered name for Cialis is Tadalafil. Tadalafil is what my prescription is for.

Your GP can only prescribe you 4 tablets of either nothing more. And the only way you can get a prescription via the NHS is if you have either a spinal injury or Diabetes. So therefore your GP can only prescribe as a private prescription that you have to pay (a lot) for.

What did you say or excuse to use to your GP so they are willing to prescribe you Viagra/Cialis ??