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Joe Blob

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What they recommend in the Gum Clinic and do is give the highest dose to allow the person see success of the tablet working and remove any anxiety away of it not working and then reduce it down if needed on the one month time appointment.

I'm not a doctor, but that sounds very iffy advice for ANY medication; I'd want that confirmed by majority medical opinion before going down that route.

Offline AnthG

I'm not a doctor, but that sounds very iffy advice for ANY medication; I'd want that confirmed by majority medical opinion before going down that route.
Well what I have is the 20mg Vardenafil tablets (Levitra) - or will have I have not had time to put the prescription in yet. This is the maximum dose for it. I was going to be given the 100mg Viagra before I asked for Levitra.

What I was told is you try this and see if it works. If it does then in the one months next appointment it can be reduced if needed due to any side effects. Or if it does not work it can be swapped to one of the others (Viagra).

I had mentioned I tried the 10mg Cialis that my GP prescribed and it did not work. And this may have swayed her judgement to giving me the max dose of the Levitra/Viagra. As the max for Cialis is 20mg.

My posting was more so advice to others to possibly go to the Gum clinic to get the tablets on the NHS. As this way you are getting the genuine article and also much cheaper (or possibly free) on the NHS.
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Offline Cactus

Anth if you are 32 and need a stimulant (perhaps a placebo) to get an erection, then what are you going to do at age 42/52/62/72?  Will you need a bigger dose?  Will you come to rely on these to get it up?

Should you not be looking at addressing the issues that are stopping you get a hard on rather than looking for chemical fixes?  At your age there really shouldn't be any bother.  Have you watched alot of porn in your time, sometimes porn can numb your brain to the stimulus that would usually turn you on.

For me seeing a nice bum is enough to get the old chap stirring and I'm only a couple of years younger than you.

Curious6705

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If Anth was taking alcohol would anyone be so censorious over his use of it? AIUI viagra / kamagra is essentially a muscle relaxant. Absent disastrous side effects revealed on first use, which he hasn't suffered, I personally see no harm in his use of it, any more than I would him using alcohol, or taking non addictive painkillers such as aspirin or ibuprofen. Probably much less dangerous than other recreational drugs such as cannabis, and certainly cocaine.
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Offline Jimmyredcab



My posting was more so advice to others to possibly go to the Gum clinic to get the tablets on the NHS. As this way you are getting the genuine article and also much cheaper (or possibly free) on the NHS.

Free Viagra from the GUM clinic. ?????

Can someone confirm that is right. ?????

Offline Steve2

Sounds unlikely> all I ever get is free condoms

Offline AnthG

Free Viagra from the GUM clinic. ?????

Can someone confirm that is right. ?????

Sounds unlikely> all I ever get is free condoms

Have PMed Softlad a scan of my Prescription sheet. Have not posted it on the forum as it contains personally identifyable info.

I do not know why people are so mistrusting. What would I gain by saying things which are not true?
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Offline AnthG

I think its a case you have to actually be assessed and deemed to need the stuff. Its not like you can go in and say, can I have some free tablets. Ok here you go.

Like I say I think its a case of if the ED is causing emotional distress or anxiety they will prescribe it.

But with the GP its a case of they only prescribe if you have diabetes or a spinal injury.

And also its not technically the Gum clinic. Its a separate clinic for sexual health that uses the Gum building (probably the one which gives out contraceptives to women)
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tufan

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i  have used cilais 20mg by cutting it into 2 pcs.it worked very well for me. i felt its effectness for more than 12 hours. only side effect was a      light headache and red face (when starts action). i noticed that most side effects disappear after 2-3 hours.

i have used them to prevent coming quick since i have no ED problem.i read somewhere i don't remember now that cialis is also good for PE. and i have confirmed it myself.


Offline AnthG

After trying all three. For me I have found Vardenafil/Levitra by far the best. I did not get a single side effect from taking the largest dose of 20mg.

Taking even 50mg of Viagra causes bad pressure headaches, and for me a slight blue tint to vision (but this is a rare side effect from what I have been told). But like Joe said it may just be I need to take 25mg of it.

When they get them back in stock I would recommend people giving even just a small sample of 4 a go with their Kamagra orders. I get the feeling they will make the switch over to them.

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Marcus

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I had a go on the kamagra gel and it works really well .the problem I had with it was it gives me red eyes and makes me look like the terminator or a junky !
I found you have sex then go to sleep with a hard on and wake up with one that you could brake a window with and a banging headache .
Good shit but I find it difficult to hide the fact that you have taken one .
Are they all like that or is it just me.?

Offline mh

Good shit but I find it difficult to hide the fact that you have taken one .
Are they all like that or is it just me.?

I've only tried Viagra, so can't comment on the others that I understand are known/intended to produce longer lasting and more persistent effects. Viagra works for me precisely because the stiffie arrives when you need it and goes when you don't. The only negative effect for me is that coming a second time is more difficult. The hard on is as good the second time, so still much fun to be had, but usually no "second coming" for me.

Offline AnthG

Are they all like that or is it just me.?
What I have been advised is you need to try them all and find what works best for you.

But like Joe said reduce your dose of Viagra as it seems powerful stuff.
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Offline Jimmyredcab

Have PMed Softlad a scan of my Prescription sheet. Have not posted it on the forum as it contains personally identifyable info.

I do not know why people are so mistrusting. What would I gain by saying things which are not true?

The reason I queried it was because if they gave out Viagra to everyone who requested it the cost to the NHS would run into millions, I honestly thought a GUM clinic only dealt with STI's not erection problems.
If they gave them to you then obviously I got it wrong.  :unknown:

thebigrunt

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I might have to try the Asda private prescription route (the one that doesn't involve your GP's approval  :D ). But can AnthG tell us if their consultants will interrogate you and your penis before administering the drug or are they more straightforward??

If you let us know AnthG or any of the other guys who might have taken this rout...

Offline AnthG

I might have to try the Asda private prescription route (the one that doesn't involve your GP's approval  :D ). But can AnthG tell us if their consultants will interrogate you and your penis before administering the drug or are they more straightforward??

If you let us know AnthG or any of the other guys who might have taken this rout...
The Asda pharmacy just want to have a quick chat about what medication you are on to make sure you are not on Alpha blockers etc. They wont physically check you out. The Gum clinic do however want to do a full examination so bear that in mind.

To be honest I would factor in the cost here. You will be paying ~£30 for 4 tablets of Viagra. When you can get 8 tablets of Kamagra for ~£15. A whole bunch of people have ordered from this website and always got kosha from them.
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SteveNova

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I ordered from this site External Link/Members Only  Good service, as they arrived in two days.  Instead of the Kamagra that I ordered, I was sent Silagra, which they say is the same active ingredient as Kamagra/Viagra.  I know some members have also been sent this.  Have you found it to be as equally effective as Kamagra?

Offline MisterP

Hey guys, recently my erections haven't been quite as hard as I need them to be and maintaining one isn't easy either.
The only times I've taken Viagra were yrs ago at the beginning of being sexually active with my gf due to nerves.  Also I've taken them at times when I've been stressed due to balancing exams and work. 
Started on 25mg and worked very well, but after a few more occasions it seemed to fade.  Therefore I increased the dosage to 50mg and this only left me with more dizziness and a mediocre erection. I never experimented further because after a while it just went back to normal with lifestyle. 
Although now some yrs later it has returned and I'm not sure whether to return to Viagra that failed me over time or try something new. 

Offline Thepacifist

If Anth was taking alcohol would anyone be so censorious over his use of it? AIUI viagra / kamagra is essentially a muscle relaxant. Absent disastrous side effects revealed on first use, which he hasn't suffered, I personally see no harm in his use of it, any more than I would him using alcohol, or taking non addictive painkillers such as aspirin or ibuprofen. Probably much less dangerous than other recreational drugs such as cannabis, and certainly cocaine.

WRONG! stop spreading ignorant nonsense  :diablo:

Curious6705

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WRONG! stop spreading ignorant nonsense  :diablo:

Quote from: NHS Choices website
The dangers of cannabis

There are several health risks associated with cannabis use, including dependency problems, mental health problems and lung damage.

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Offline AnthG

Although now some yrs later it has returned and I'm not sure whether to return to Viagra that failed me over time or try something new.
Like I said above the Levitra had the least side effects for me - actually none at all.

I am back onto to the Viagra as it gave me slightly better results after trying the Levitra a couple of times. (But the Doctor did say I should have maybe persevered with the Levitra as it may have been other factors causing it).
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Offline MisterP

Like I said above the Levitra had the least side effects for me - actually none at all.

I am back onto to the Viagra as it gave me slightly better results after trying the Levitra a couple of times. (But the Doctor did say I should have maybe persevered with the Levitra as it may have been other factors causing it).

Much appreciated AnthG.
I'm going to try Kamagra first as they're out of stock on Levitra..
Bought 8 for 15quid

As these are 100mg, should I be cutting these up first?
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As these are 100mg, should I be cutting these up first?
I would definitely cut them up. As they do give bad headaches at even 50mg.
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SteveNova

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I've been lucky in not getting nasty side effects.  I do drink a great deal of water when taking it, as I read that keeping hydrated can help avoid headaches.  I can also report that Silagra works as well as Kamagra - these were sent in place of Kamagra and have the same active ingredient.  I also split the 100 mg in half - I guess I can always up the dose if I ever need to in the future!

Offline MisterP

I might try the nurofen mixer. I can't drink too much water as with the cold weather together with any nerves isn't great for my bladder.

Offline rpg

My preferred mix is a generic viagara (whatever I can buy at work) and two aspirin. Thins the blood allowing more into the old boy and helps prevent the headache. Works a treat!

Offline MisterP

So any viagra is good stuff from your experience? There's some other generics on that site for a quid each. I remember having to take 60 odd quid from my pocket money for 4 of the uk ones.

Offline rpg

I buy whatever's going at the time. I've never bought from a website it's always black market. I'm 55 and need a wee bit help to maintain, not achieve an erection. I choose to believe that whatever I've taken will work and up to now it has. Unless you have a physical problem which stops you getting an erection it's all in the mind.
This thread has been pretty helpful but also complete bollocks for those of us who take enhancers for recreational purposes. Nearly all of us who use enhancers I would imagine, are for visits to escorts, so why do you need something that lasts the whole weekend.

Offline AnthG

So any viagra is good stuff from your experience? There's some other generics on that site for a quid each. I remember having to take 60 odd quid from my pocket money for 4 of the uk ones.
Yes get the cheapest one from that website. Its all identical.

I have the genuine article from Pfizer and the tablets look identical to those £1 ones.

Obviously the argument is the ingredients could be different. But if they claim to have Sildenafil inside then the contents will be identical too.

This thread has been pretty helpful but also complete bollocks for those of us who take enhancers for recreational purposes. Nearly all of us who use enhancers I would imagine, are for visits to escorts, so why do you need something that lasts the whole weekend.

To be fair to the topic creator ---- which is me. I did not know Cialis stays in your system that long. My GP never told me this.

I have tried a multitude of tablets now; and all of Levitra, Viagra, Cialis, Dapoxetine, Generic Sildenafil and Kamagra. And I currently have a kosha prescription for Viagra from Pfizer so hopefully my opinion can be trusted.
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Offline rpg

I'm sorry Anth maybe I worded that wrongly. I wasn't having a go at you. I just meant the cheap generic Viagra will do if you're head's in the right place, no need for anything else. It's a good thread, thanks.

dave123

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I've found that viagra works well but is pricey and it leaves you with a hard on for a long time. Sildenafil 100 mg is the best cheap alternative in my opinion which is available from the web.

SteveNova

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I used this site as it was recommended here as reliable External Link/Members Only
Kamagra /Silagra works and does help maintain an erection - its due to a physiological change that prevents blood leaving the penis for a while, and the active ingrediant is the same as Viagra (Sildenafil).  Obviously you need stimulation and to be feeling horny but the right WG should see to that   ;)
« Last Edit: December 10, 2012, 08:27:57 pm by SteveNova »

Offline Thepacifist

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How many people die a year from smoking solely cannabis?

How many people die a year from taking these pills?

For you to assert that cannabis causes more harm to an individual compared to these substances is incorrect.

Curious6705

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How many people die a year from smoking solely cannabis?

How many people die a year from taking these pills?

For you to assert that cannabis causes more harm to an individual compared to these substances is incorrect.

How about 30,000 deaths a year from cannabis - in the UK alone!

Quote from: Professor John Henry
Cannabis 'kills 30,000 a year'

Professor John Henry, a leading authority on the drug, said ...

"Cannabis is as dangerous as cigarette smoking - in fact, it may be even worse"

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Anth is taking Viagra under medical supervision. I don't believe there have been any deaths recorded in the UK where the cause has been confirmed as Viagra taken under medical supervision.

Offline Thepacifist

That's completely false. It is physically impossible to overdose from smoking cannabis on its own. You'd need to smoke 40x your own body weight and you would fall asleep before this would happen. Professor Nutt and his scientific advisory board recommended cannabis was NOT reclassified to B because it is LESS harmful then alcohol etc. If we re-wrote the drug table based on harm caused to society alcohol would be number 1  :drinks: I refuse to believe any drug propaganda from the daily whale. I trust scientific facts, not right wing politicians. Alcohol and tobacco kill hundreds of thousands a year and these are legal. Only due to their tax revenue, there is no medical or social benefit (perhaps for alcohol there is social benefit but not tobacco). Same with other legal pills, just because something is legal doesn't mean it is safe to consume, that is the common misconception. Anyway, apologies for derailing a thread, however, i refuse to let ignorant statements go unchallenged.

Curious6705

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That's completely false. It is physically impossible to overdose from smoking cannabis on its own. You'd need to smoke 40x your own body weight and you would fall asleep before this would happen. Professor Nutt and his scientific advisory board recommended cannabis was NOT reclassified to B because it is LESS harmful then alcohol etc. If we re-wrote the drug table based on harm caused to society alcohol would be number 1  :drinks: I refuse to believe any drug propaganda from the daily whale. I trust scientific facts, not right wing politicians. Alcohol and tobacco kill hundreds of thousands a year and these are legal. Only due to their tax revenue, there is no medical or social benefit (perhaps for alcohol there is social benefit but not tobacco). Same with other legal pills, just because something is legal doesn't mean it is safe to consume, that is the common misconception. Anyway, apologies for derailing a thread, however, i refuse to let ignorant statements go unchallenged.

Imperial College and the British Medical Journal are not right wing propagandists.

Quote from: Imperial College
Cannabis smoking could be responsible for up to 30,000 deaths in the UK.

The stark message can be found in the British Medical Journal where doctors from Imperial College and St Mary's Hospital calculated that if 120,000 deaths are caused among 13 million smokers, the corresponding figure among 3.2 million cannabis smokers would be 30,000, assuming that their health effects are the same.

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Imperial College is one of the top universities in the world

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The British Medical Journal is one of the top medical journals in the world

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Offline AnthG


Imperial College is one of the top universities in the world

It is. I would have dreamed to go there. Top scientific university in England outside Oxbridge.

I have not read the article but I would take what they say as fact personally.
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Uglybugball

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I've had a very good experience with the Vaigra Super Active version. Bought for the last 2 years. (51)

100mg x 10 @ $37.29 Total.  (yes dollars) Free Delivery.  (on average 2 weeks to arrive)

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Taken 1 hour before a shag, really enhances the experience and gives a really intense orgasm. Seems to delay things just nicely as you can really go at it without cumming too soon.  :wacko:

Recovery time is good too. Good for a 90 minutes booking+   :dance:

Could be just mind tricks but my cock seems bigger and thicker than normal. This creates extra confidence when the escort unleashes the beast.... :kissgirl:

Offline MisterP

That stuff sounds a bit hardcore :D
though Super side effects?

SteveNova

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The site says the ingredient is 100mg Sildenafil Citrate, which is the same as Kamagra/ Viagra/ Silagra.  I'm not sure what the super ingredient is - but it's good that they work well for you.

Uglybugball

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Super = Fast Active.  Although best result for me is an hour before.

The intensity does also depend on how the punt is going overall and if the escort can keep the tease and tantalising part going for as long as possible.  :kissgirl:

ncarter

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Slightly off topic, but looking at Uglybugball's profile reminds me that apparently the Koala population is being decimated by clamydia, so that's what the sun does to you if there for a long time  ;)

Uglybugball

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Slightly off topic, but looking at Uglybugball's profile reminds me that apparently the Koala population is being decimated by clamydia, so that's what the sun does to you if there for a long time  ;)

That's no koala that's my wife.  :crazy:

ncarter

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That's no koala that's my wife.  :crazy:
You too, I have a picture of me and the missus taken in Brisbane  ;) but for obvious reasons I'm not putting it on a public forum.

Offline MisterP

Hi guys,
Mine were delivered the other day and I tried 50mg (cut as precisely as I could).  There was a minor delay on delivery, as my house number was very poorly printed on the label.  Considering the contents that could have had undesirable consequences. 
Maintained the erection no probs but it wasn't as hard as I would have liked. Didn't really have a headache but did notice the purple tinge in my vision. 
Would you recommend I try 100mg next time?  Considering I only suffered very slight dizziness with 50.  Or is this only going to max the side-effects rather than have the desired effect down below?

Offline pilgrim

It really does depend on a multitude of things, Your body, being fit, overweight, what you have had to eat, do you have a cold, your age and other underlying health conditions. I get the 100mg tabs and cut them in half. They normally work well but I do find they are better on an empty stomach or a light snack but I avoid things like a full english, having alcohol has also had an effect so I avoid that now. I think you will need to try 50 mg a few times and see how you get on. I am fit and healthy but still get red flushes, headaches, blurred vision and a stuffy nose. Ive heard people say they take aspirin for the headache and a nasal spray to clear the blocked nose. I would get a doctors advice as every individual will react differently, personally I just persevere with the side affects as I find it bad enough taking the one medication without taking others to combat the side affects, where do you stop?

It can also depend on your desire or urge, although the meds are working and you have increased blood flow, do you actually have the urge if she a munter and not doing anything for you? Some people black out with them, Im normally knackered after a punt and tend to fall asleep on the train or bus home, I wouldnt drive as no doubt Id fall asleep and crash!!

Uglybugball

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On their site they list general advice and information.

I use 100mg an hour before. No heavy food intake or alcohol 4 hours before hand works okay for me.

All the websites suggest consulting with a doctor if you know you have suffered with high or low blood pressure and are currently taking any medication with nitrates. Also avoid grapefruit juice.

I know when the effect is kicking in when my lips go sensitive and I have a slight flush sensation in my neck. Sensible to try the 50mg dosage to start. On reflection, that's probably the right one for me, but I like to make sure with the 100mg.


Joe Blob

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It really does depend on a multitude of things, Your body, being fit, overweight, what you have had to eat, do you have a cold, your age and other underlying health conditions. I get the 100mg tabs and cut them in half. They normally work well but I do find they are better on an empty stomach or a light snack but I avoid things like a full english, having alcohol has also had an effect so I avoid that now. I think you will need to try 50 mg a few times and see how you get on. I am fit and healthy but still get red flushes, headaches, blurred vision and a stuffy nose. Ive heard people say they take aspirin for the headache and a nasal spray to clear the blocked nose. I would get a doctors advice as every individual will react differently, personally I just persevere with the side affects as I find it bad enough taking the one medication without taking others to combat the side affects, where do you stop?


People keep talking about the side effects.

The answer is to cut the dose. Take a quarter to a third of a tab instead of half, you'll get the desired results without the side effects; no headaches, no stuffy nose, no need for any aspirins. 

Quite simply, if you're getting the side effects, cut the dose, and you'll find the right balance for you.

Offline MisterP

Thanks for the replies guys.  Managed to get some casual sex last night and used 100mg.  There was never any actual headache.  Just dizziness, which as most would agree, prevented driving.  Although there was a hot flush to the face it felt strangely pleasant with the cold air blowing across it.
Increasing the dosage didn't really increase the stiffness of the erection.  Nor was there any noticeable effect of recovery or delayed ejaculation.  It certainly helped things but not as much as I'd hoped.
I'm going to keep on experimenting but sooner rather than later just need to sort my life out as this is a psychological issue that I know can be remedied like before. 
 However, I do find it frustrating that just 25mg of Viagra used to have the desired effect and more..

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