Viagra / Cialis (Tadalafil) - Discussion Thread

[AnthG]

And if you fancy hitting up some bars, I'm going to be in Newcastle soon for the night, going to see the black keys at the start of December?

That is a really nice offer CJ. And one I am also going to give serious thought to possibly taking up.

[Cactus]

That is a really nice offer CJ. And one I am also going to give serious thought to possibly taking up.

I'll PM you nearer the time with more details, be more than happy to meet you for a few jars.

[mh]

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4 October 2012

"More than £6.5 million worth of counterfeit and unlicensed medicines has been seized across the globe as part of a week-long international crackdown on the illicit internet trade in pharmaceuticals"

[Jimmyredcab]

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I ordered some Kamagra on Wednesday and it arrived today (Saturday) however they have sent a substitute called Silagra which they claim has the same effect and ingredients.
They say there is a shortage of Kamagra in the UK. ????

[Wayang]

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I ordered some Kamagra on Wednesday and it arrived today (Saturday) however they have sent a substitute called Silagra which they claim has the same effect and ingredients.
They say there is a shortage of Kamagra in the UK. ????

Silagra is, I think the Thai version of Kamagra - if it is you are one of the first to get it as it was due for release in Bangkok about now.

[AnthG]

They are still advertising the Kamagra as being in stock. I think that is a bit tricky of them to do.

[Jimmyredcab]

They are still advertising the Kamagra as being in stock. I think that is a bit tricky of them to do.

Maybe it is just a temporary problem and they don't want to change the web-site, had they notified me I would still have accepted the substitute, we are only looking at £20-40 for 12 pills.

[richard1971]

I also ordered last week and received silagra instead of the kamagra id ordered, was actually  a little disappointed with the way in which it was packaged, pills not in boxes instead a rubber band held the strips together....

[Matium]

What is the effect of silagra?

Is it just as good as kamagra?

Or is there a difference?

[AnthG]

What is the effect of silagra?

Is it just as good as kamagra?

Or is there a difference?

Its the same Sildenafil Citrate ingredients. They are all just knock offs of Viagra.

[Jimmyredcab]

I also ordered last week and received silagra instead of the kamagra id ordered, was actually  a little disappointed with the way in which it was packaged, pills not in boxes instead a rubber band held the strips together....

Kamagra is also sent out in strips rather than a box, puzzled as to why you want a box. ????
Strips are easier to send through the post in an envelope.

[Wayang]

What is the effect of silagra?
Is it just as good as kamagra?
Or is there a difference?

As AnthG says they are effectively all the same in that the constituent base drug is same.  Where you might want to watch it is in the dosage.  Some sachets of Kamagra are 20mg and not 100mg - so what ever dose you take of one take the same dose of anything containing sidenafil  citrate.

[Jimmyredcab]

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AnthG ---------------- note is says take one hour before sexual activity.   

[AnthG]

Some sachets of Kamagra are 20mg and not 100mg - so what ever dose you take of one take the same dose of anything containing sidenafil  citrate.

All I will say is if what you get through the post is 20mg I would be very careful its not actually Levirta or Cialis or a knock off of one of those tablets as opposed to a viagra substitute as that is the maximum daily dosage of those and the equivalent of 100mg of sidenafil citrate (Viagra/Kamagra).

Taking 5x the maximum daily dose of Cialis/Levitra would not be something you'd want to do.

AnthG ---------------- note is says take one hour before sexual activity.   

Ok, I shall put in a complaint about my GP and the Asda Pharmacist.   (sorry couldn't help it, it was genuinely what they advised)

Kamagra is also sent out in strips rather than a box, puzzled as to why you want a box. ????
Strips are easier to send through the post in an envelope.

With regards to this. I would rather they would be boxed too as it suggests they are the genuine article and not a cheap knockoff.

As my pics showed above, the kamagra jelly came boxed and sealed.

[Jimmyredcab]

With regards to this. I would rather they would be boxed too as it suggests they are the genuine article and not a cheap knockoff.

Kamagra is a cheap knockoff, simply a copy of Viagra manufactured in India.

A box would not make them any more genuine, how hard would it be to make counterfeit boxes. 

[Wayang]

Qte
The Thailand Government will manufacture a drug called “Silagra” that will be available in Thai pharmacies from October 15th. They are to be manufactured by the Government Pharmaceutical Organization (GPO) as a generic and affordable anti-impotence drug and will be sold at 25 baht for a 50mg tablet and 45 baht for a 100mg tablet. Unlike many other government extortion’s, there appears to be no policy of double pricing, except the usual tourist ghetto traps pricing. Qte

My mistake - the Thai Gov't is merely copying another copy of Viagra already available on the market elsewhere.

[richard1971]

Kamagra is also sent out in strips rather than a box, puzzled as to why you want a box. ????
Strips are easier to send through the post in an envelope.

No need to be puzzled, was purely stating that I was disappointed with the aesthetics is all... While a box isn't essential it would have for some reason made me happier with my purchase.... Maybe that's silly

[Wayang]

Maybe that's silly

Yes!  I have seen both.  I must admit that I am equally suspicious of both the fancy boxes and the open blister packs.

For real examples of fakes  walk down Sukhumvit, Bangkok, and look at the stalls offering every type of 'fake' packaging you can think of.

[Wayang]

Looking at genuine Viagra on UK web sites it costs about £8.00 a 100mg pill with a fiddled prescription.  Bangkok Baht 325 ($10) a pill??? Looks like international markets are in synch!!!

[Cactus]

Is buying drugs online a good idea?

[AnthG]

Is buying drugs online a good idea?

No. And its something I would have been staunchly against in normal circumstances. But the genuine makers of these tablets have took the absolute piss with the pricing. £8 a tablet is the actual price!

Look at Dopoxetine as a classic demonstrative example. It is simply an SSRI; an antidepressant. You can buy a whole months supply of SSRIs for £7. But this one as it is being sold as a Premature Ejaculation solution is frikkin £95 for 3 tablets as a private prescription.

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Its greed and due to this you kind of actually want to give your money to the knock off suppliers as they deserve your money - as long as its a genuine product which is the truly worrying thing as I can remember reading stories from my region a year or so ago about fake viagra with rat poison in.

[Jimmyredcab]

Is buying drugs online a good idea?

Is crossing the road during the rush hour a good idea. 

I have been using online Kamagra for the last few years, I am still here to tell the tale. 

[Jimmyredcab]

No. And its something I would have been staunchly against in normal circumstances. But the genuine makers of these tablets have took the absolute piss with the pricing. £8 a tablet is the actual price!

Their excuse would be that they have to spend millions on research, that is their problem, not mine. 

[Joe Blob]

Is crossing the road during the rush hour a good idea. 

I have been using online Kamagra for the last few years, I am still here to tell the tale. 

Me too

[AnthG]

Me too

So have you guys, or anyone else for that matter, ever got something that was clearly a placebo fake in that time?

Really just asking to relieve any concerns.

[Joe Blob]

So have you guys, or anyone else for that matter, ever got something that was clearly a placebo fake in that time?

Really just asking to relieve any concerns.

No, nor has anyone else I know (admittedly not many)

[SteveNova]

Just to give you an update on this supplier ---------

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I ordered some Kamagra on Wednesday and it arrived today (Saturday) however they have sent a substitute called Silagra which they claim has the same effect and ingredients.
They say there is a shortage of Kamagra in the UK. ????

I'll be interested to hear if Silagra is just as good - having used that website myself and needing to reorder soon.

[Cactus]

Is crossing the road during the rush hour a good idea. 

I have been using online Kamagra for the last few years, I am still here to tell the tale. 

But crossing the road is a necessaryand will generally be done at safe spots if it's a busy road such as a pedestrian crossing.
I wouldn't class buying god knows what from dodgy sites to make my willy hard as necessary.
IMHO of course.

[fabbian von minky]

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I ordered some Kamagra on Wednesday and it arrived today (Saturday) however they have sent a substitute called Silagra which they claim has the same effect and ingredients.
They say there is a shortage of Kamagra in the UK. ????

same as you took it 50ml worked fine, very hard within 5 mins of punt (previous punts can be so nervous would take a while and struggle to maintain} ,second round ready really quick, took longer to cum (not a bad thing might start to use this in the 30 mins bookings so get my moneys worth) still would have run over 30mins but had hour booked so not a problem also knocked one out after punt,side effects number 2s where a bit watery.

[AnthG]

Can I ask how old you are Fabbian? Or just the age range if you don't want to be exact

[fabbian von minky]

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[AnthG]

All I can say from my first 'field test' so to speak is the Kamagra works wonders. I took about just over half to three quaters of the container - so the equivalent of 50mg/75mg. And it was working perfect. No embarrassments whatsoever.

[Wayang]

FFS AnthG at your age a quick stroke of your old man should raise an instant erection.

[AnthG]

FFS AnthG at your age a quick stroke of your old man should raise an instant erection.

Don't tell me. I know. And its really disheartening that it doesn't.

Every booking with an escort its a humiliating fight to get and then keep things usable. It really is the feeling like you want to be sucked into a vaccum and die when you are there naked alone with the girl and want to have sex but cannot.

Today, rock solid. Hardest its been ever in a booking. And believe me this helped things immensely. Today's booking was so good.

Now on Kamagra every punt.

[mh]

Now on Kamagra every punt.

That's the problem. I read your report of the fantastic experience you had with Gabi. Now chances are it would have been stellar without chemical assistance and you'd have had your mojo back. Now you'll only want to punt (or have sex with any girl?) after taking an assistive substance.

I use Viagra on some punts - mainly when I know anal will be on offer as you need to be harder for that to be successful. But I also make sure I have punts where I don't use it just so that I know I can.

[ncarter]

Don't tell me. I know. And its really disheartening that it doesn't.

Every booking with an escort its a humiliating fight to get and then keep things usable. It really is the feeling like you want to be sucked into a vaccum and die when you are there naked alone with the girl and want to have sex but cannot.

Today, rock solid. Hardest its been ever in a booking. And believe me this helped things immensely. Today's booking was so good.

Now on Kamagra every punt.

Please take this as a friendly comment but you might want to check your lifestyle and diet if you are having problems at your age, if it's not health it could be psychological. I am not trying to be nasty or anything, but the concern is that you rely upon artificial stimulants now and if you don't get any issues sorted out, you may become dependant upon them. Long term usage of drugs is never really a good idea, (there are exceptions where long term health risks are less than the impact of not using the drug). You are still a young man and have time to address any problems now. If it turns out that you need to keep using them then fine, but I get the impression that a lot of users of these products on this site are twice your age.

[AnthG]

it could be psychological.

Thanks Ncarter. People keep saying to me in this thread, that it could be psychological. And I will say, I know pretty much it is psychological.  You have no idea how nervous I am during punts. And girls can say in the room, no need to be nervous. But unfortunately that is my personality trait.

But what I will also say, when I was at the Gum clininic last Monday the doctor taking my blood/swabs said, after my telling her I am taking dodgy viagra, they have a male health advice clinic there and she referred me to them to chat. She said it can take a while - months even - to actually get seen by them but I put my name down for it and will chat with them when it comes round.

[ncarter]

Glad to hear it. I'm not sure how old you are, but I am guessing you are only a few years younger than me.
I know what you mean about nervousness, I was quite shy, I can't say when that changed (it might have been 1-2 blows to the head?!) but I stopped worrying about what others though about me and tried to be a little more selfish.

Plus I don't know if it helps, but try doing something drastic like going abroad on holiday on your own to another country, you could join a tour group or something, but try and make sure if you do, you spend at least a couple of days getting round on your own particularly if you don't know the language (or try the US where it is easy to chat to people you meet in tourist destinations if on your own). It works wonders for your self confidence having to think that you are responsible for yourself. Obviously don't take any serious risks with safety though.

If the economy wasn't so bad and it hard to get a job, I'd almost suggest you go off to Australia on a working holiday, it's a fantastic way to socialise with the challenges of getting into temporary groups.

[AnthG]

Glad to hear it. I'm not sure how old you are, but I am guessing you are only a few years younger than me.

Thanks for the suggestions again Ncarter and it is something I will definitely consider, for the record I am 32. And before you think it, yes I know I come across as younger. Even in person everyone thinks I am 25.

[Cactus]

Glad to hear it. I'm not sure how old you are, but I am guessing you are only a few years younger than me.
I know what you mean about nervousness, I was quite shy, I can't say when that changed (it might have been 1-2 blows to the head?!) but I stopped worrying about what others though about me and tried to be a little more selfish.

Plus I don't know if it helps, but try doing something drastic like going abroad on holiday on your own to another country, you could join a tour group or something, but try and make sure if you do, you spend at least a couple of days getting round on your own particularly if you don't know the language (or try the US where it is easy to chat to people you meet in tourist destinations if on your own). It works wonders for your self confidence having to think that you are responsible for yourself. Obviously don't take any serious risks with safety though.

If the economy wasn't so bad and it hard to get a job, I'd almost suggest you go off to Australia on a working holiday, it's a fantastic way to socialise with the challenges of getting into temporary groups.

Get up to Edinburgh and come to Prague with me and some mates tomorrow, one of the boys has dropped out 

[AnthG]

Get up to Edinburgh and come to Prague with me and some mates tomorrow, one of the boys has dropped out 

Thanks CJ, bit too short notice though. 

[Cactus]

Thanks CJ, bit too short notice though. 

How'd you mean, we don't fly till 14:30 

[sucky2dollar]

I gave Kamagra jelly a try just to see what all the fuss is about (half a satchet, lemon flavour by Ajanta)

I'm in my 30's and physically fit so it was a pointless experiment really but what the hell.
I was expecting a rock hard steel pipe but all i got was a headache (which I still have) and had a rather uncomfortable boner for a couple of hours. It just sat there like an batton even though I wasn't thinking about sex.

I didn't go on a punt with it because I wanted to know how it would affect me first.

I'm still feeling like shit and that was 4 hours ago so I might go for a lie down as my head is thumping.
Lesson of the day, don't take Sildenafil if you don't need it.

If I die, avenge me. 

[AnthG]

I gave Kamagra jelly a try just to see what all the fuss is about (half a satchet, lemon flavour by Ajanta)

I'm in my 30's and physically fit so it was a pointless experiment really but what the hell.
I was expecting a rock hard steel pipe but all i got was a headache (which I still have) and had a rather uncomfortable boner for a couple of hours. It just sat there like an batton even though I wasn't thinking about sex.

I didn't go on a punt with it because I wanted to know how it would affect me first.

I'm still feeling like shit and that was 4 hours ago so I might go for a lie down as my head is thumping.
Lesson of the day, don't take Sildenafil if you don't need it.

If I die, avenge me. 

Take an Ibuprofen about 10 mins after taking it is my recommendation. For me it only gives a slight (pressure type) headache, which goes after the ibuprofen. but my main gripe is it causes slight vision issues. (Difficulty focusing my eyes is the only way to describe it)

I was thinking of placing an order for some Levitra to try given that it is supposed to have the least side effects and also works on a full stomach.

[sucky2dollar]

but my main gripe is it causes slight vision issues. (Difficulty focusing my eyes is the only way to describe it)

That's exactly what I got now, does viagra have the same 'hangover' effect?

[AnthG]

That's exactly what I got now, does viagra have the same 'hangover' effect?

Kamagra is Viagra. Its identical. Viagra the American and UK brand name for Sildenafil Citrate. Kamagra is the Indian.

Its like Nurofen and Ibuprofen. Same stuff. Just Nurofen is a brand name.

[Wayang]

Kamagra is Viagra. Its identical. Viagra the American and UK brand name for Sildenafil Citrate. Kamagra is the Indian.

Its like Nurofen and Ibuprofen. Same stuff. Just Nurofen is a brand name.

Viagra is the patented name for their product containing the chemical sidenafil citrate.  Kamagra is a version of Viagra manufactured in India to escape patent laws but it is the same basic ED drug.  The main problem is that counterfeiting of ED drugs is said to be rife and counterfeiters prefer to produce 'Kamagra ' rather challenges Viagra.

Given that I see no feed back on here suggesting Kamagra supplied in the UK is a placebo.

But would I buy Kamagra from the night stalls of Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok?  No way - Buy it from a shady pharmacist near Nana and the risk are less

[Joe Blob]

Guys, if you're having the side effects mentioned, simply cut down the dose; a quarter to a third of a tablet/sachet should be enough to give the desired result without the unpleasant side effects.

If your vision's affected, cut down the dose, if you have a headache that needs ibuprofen, cut down the dose, you don't need as much as you think you do.

[ncarter]

Thanks for the suggestions again Ncarter and it is something I will definitely consider, for the record I am 32. And before you think it, yes I know I come across as younger. Even in person everyone thinks I am 25.

In that case my suggestion wouldn't be suitable, unfortunately you, like me are just the wrong side of 30. Hey believe me looking younger than you are is great. My aim though is to match HP's prowess if I get to 70. TO be fair I have had a bit of both, I looked older when I was younger and just slowed down when ageing (appearance only).

[AnthG]

But what I will also say, when I was at the Gum clininic last Monday the doctor taking my blood/swabs said, after my telling her I am taking dodgy viagra, they have a male health advice clinic there and she referred me to them to chat. She said it can take a while - months even - to actually get seen by them but I put my name down for it and will chat with them when it comes round.

Thought this is worth mentioning. But I have been to this clinic tonight.

And this clinic - unlike my GP. Can prescribe the medication on the NHS for reasons for anxiety, or if the ED is causing the person emotional distress etc.

She was going to give me a prescription for Viagra, but I had asked to trial Levitra instead due to the Viagra causing blue tinge to eyesight issues in me (its a rare side effect the Doctor said that may be fixed with Lavitra). So I now have a prescription on the NHS for 8 tablets of Levitra (so no £33 private prescription like with my GP). I was told I can keep having prescriptions for it as long as I feel I need it as long as I never start to need to take the medications that can cause adverse reactions (alpha blockers etc) or if I move out of the area.

Going back in a months time to see how the Levitra works and if it does not she will switch it to Viagra.

Another thing to mention the Doctor I saw ridiculed the advice and process given to my by my GP. As what my GP did was give me 10mg of Cialis and said if this does not work he will up it to 20mg. (or he was going to give 50mg of viagra and up it to 100mg)

What they recommend in the Gum Clinic and do is give the highest dose to allow the person see success of the tablet working and remove any anxiety away of it not working and then reduce it down if needed on the one month time appointment.

For those buying the tablets from the internet its worth booking an appointment with the Gum Clinic ED support clinic to see if you can get it on the NHS IMHO.

Finally to also add. They said they like to write to your GP that they have prescribed it, but they do not say anything about any tests or sexual history etc.- so she said she wont tell my GP I have been seeing prostitutes etc.

She said they don't have to write to your GP but it is better for them to do so, so your GP knows when prescribing anything to you of what else I am taking.