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Offline Nagilum

I once tipped a regular because we went over by 30 mins. This was in my newbie days, never again as she actually didn't want it and told me it was unnecessary.

So do not tip, it's not needed and the best gift you can give is to extend the hour or return for more business.

Offline Marmalade

There must be many variables from the WG's side, some more constant than others. She may (exceptionally) have a fairly decent attitude; yet on a particular day when one sees her, when her intention might be to give an excellent service to a decent customer, she has had a late night the night before, whether from her own silliness or external events, and has an upcoming appointment before which she's done her 'best' and squeezed you in.

What I mean is, we've all had our days at work, whatever work that is, when however hard-working and committed we are that the occasional day goes better or worse than intended. That's more or less common to everyone in life. Now most prossies are not even that committed in that sense, they work for themselves and can take days off when they want. So although you might as a regular feel you deserve an amazing time the reality might work out differently.

I don't think it's worth expending a lot of effort trying to predict a prossie's performance. They're not the Post Office. The only way to go is to treat each encounter on its own merits. Even reviews of encounters. They are what they are. There is mostly no "big picture" of any accuracy, just many odd pieces of information that improve the chances.

I try to sense her attitude, and by that I mean not her pre-defined attitude, which is a mindset and usually negative: but instead where she's coming from at that moment. For the majority, which work with conveyor-belt mentality, I give up after a few minutes and simply try gently to direct the punt to get maximum satisfaction (not hard when her brain's not really in gear, even if the results are fairly limited).  :timeout:

Occasionally a prossie will have a few brain cells left over, not many but a few, that are in reasonable semblance of working order and not involved with the menial task of getting paid, making you come, and closing the door behind you. It's like the faint glimmer of a genuine smile.

Occasionally there is slight sense of genuine human interaction, but rare and nearly always fleeting. It may only last a few seconds and as they say, for everthing else there's Mastercard (or in punting terms, hard cash for whatever you can negotiate off her lying likes list!)
« Last Edit: February 15, 2016, 10:06:48 pm by Marmalade »

Offline Marmalade

I once tipped a regular because we went over by 30 mins. This was in my newbie days, never again as she actually didn't want it and told me it was unnecessary.
Spot on. If she did it out of a genuine inclination it's almost an insult to pay her for it.

I often try to time my punts to shoot the wad about a minute before the end of the appointed time. If she wants me out the door quickly, no problem. But women generally (in civvieland) are more inclined than men to enjoy a brief post-coital interaction (it's physiological). If she (presumably) doesn't have to rush off, I have often found that the prossie will lie on the bed happily enjoying talking shite with me for 10 or 15 minutes on their time. Less often but it also happens, the business will run over. Recently I hadn't come by the end of the appointed time (short punt, intending second pop of the day) and the wee prossie, to her credit, kept throwing hand, mouth, pussy, play etc at it till I did, way over the clock. It wasn't the most inspiring of sessions but hats off to her and no extra charge.

For those that still haven't got it, exchange of money, both payment and tips, is on a whole different plane to what you get. Gifts don't, in my opinion, make much if any difference, though it's hard to prove. They might elicit a momentary warmth but they are part of the "paperwork" section of her mentality. Rather like paying for groceries and throwing a few buttons in with the correct change. Neither appropriate or useful.

Some prossies seem to wear pressies as a sort of badge, especially to other prossies: "look, someone appreciates me" type crap. Why not (for them!) They are not going to get any real thanks in their real life for their work. We all invent fantasies. Like the fluffy who gives her a present to feel good about himself. Have whatever fantasies you need, but please don't try to persuade those of us with our head in the real world that it made the slightest difference to your punt (unless it was a yatch, a diamond necklace etc).

Try to remember the numerous idiots who were sucked in and paid for a boob job on the promise of free fucks that never happened. Small gifts are pretty meaningless. With large gifts, the best thing a prossie can do is never, ever, see you again.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2016, 10:32:02 pm by Marmalade »

Offline AnthG

she has had a late night the night before, whether from her own silliness or external events, and has an upcoming appointment before which she's done her 'best' and squeezed you in.

To be honest I think the main underlying thing/issue about this topic is in effect trying to get the best out of a WG.

If a girl works on a conveyor belt system and sees 10 guys per day. She cannot give all 10 of those guys a good time so she will designate who gets the best service or not.

Or if a girl goes out partying the night before and is knackered and really needs to muster up the energy to give a good booking or not.

That is what the main underlying thing of this topic. People are thinking giving a gift or giving her a tip will make you be one of those guys getting the good treatment.

Like I said earlier I used to think this was the case too. i.e. give her a gift. She will be happy with you. And give you her best service as a result in that booking. But I tried it multiple times and every time I did I got a dreadful/minimal service in that same booking of giving the girl a gift. And its clear it's due to her realizing if he has brought me a gift. He is already happy with me. So will give him my minimal service and put the effort into one of those other guys as this guy is already happy.

I am honestly starting to believe it's more of presenting a certain type of personality to the punt that will get a good service. If you show you are a no nonsense type of person you will get the best service from the girl as opposed to showing you are someone lacking in confidence or are easily pleased.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2016, 10:34:03 pm by AnthG »
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Offline Marmalade

To be honest I think the main underlying thing/issue about this topic is in effect trying to get the best out of a WG.

If a girl works on a conveyor belt system and sees 10 guys per day. She cannot give all 10 of those guys a good time so she will designate who gets the best service or not.

Or if a girl goes out partying the night before and is knackered and really needs to muster up the energy to give a good booking or not.

That is what the main underlying thing of this topic. People are thinking giving a gift or giving her a tip will make you be one of those guys getting the good treatment.

Like I said earlier I used to think this was the case too. i.e. give her a gift. She will be happy with you. And give you her best service as a result. But I tried it multiple times and every time I got a dreadful service in that same booking of giving the girl a gift. And its clear it's due to her realizing if he has brought me a gift. He is already happy with me. So will give him my minimal service and put the effort into one of those other guys as this guy is already happy.

I am honestly starting to believe it's more of presenting a certain type of personality to the punt that will get a good service. If you show you are a no nonsense type of person you will get the best service from the girl as opposed to showing you are someone lacking in confidence.

I think there's a lot in what you write Anth. It's almost like an unconscious role-play on the part of the fluffy gift-giver: "I want to have the 'I am getting better service' role-play so will give her a gift to justify my belief."

Lap-dancers are specialists in this fantasy. "Would you like a five pound dance or the special dance for ten pounds?" Unless the place has an established 'extras' policy (which means confirming before handing over extra cash) BOTH DANCES ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.

You are correct that demonstrating a certain personality can be a better ploy (and more honest in my opinion).

I would make a point about conveyor belt mentality. Although it is usually connected to the "ten bookings a day" agenda, there are exceptions both ways. I've twice had a conveyor-belt girl say (once explicitly and once implied), 'If you want a better session, book me privately' (both times she meant outside the brothel, where the sole objective was to get the punter out the door quickly but tantalise him just enough to make him come back. Phone numbers exchanged and outside meeting arranged. Note that most brothels will deal harshly with a girl caught doing this so utmost discretion essential).

The other side is the girl who has a conveyor belt mentality but either has a dusty phone or hates the job so much that she disconnects. Doesn't matter what the punter does or says, she regards the poor bugger as shit on her shoe. Many ex-sauna girls are like that.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2016, 10:49:31 pm by Marmalade »

mikexxlong

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AnthG, Marmalade a lot of sense written there :thumbsup:

Unless there’s some chemistry between punter & WG

I believe that’s the key, enter the punt with an air of confidence, not a easy push over, & know what you want, firmly but gently direct the punt
The WG will pick up on it and will be less likely to pull any short cuts with any luck

Offline PLeisure

try reading the SAAFE forum, then come back and tell us we are wrong  :sarcastic:
+1. Wisdom

oring123

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Remember all/most girls get burn out or jaded
If that is the case when you meet
You are fucked
Only option is a shite punt or a fully directed punt by your self
To save the situation
Normaly where a girl has hired a room
 or segi is booking back to back punters
Or day work following over nights
Even whores need sleep at some point !!

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Try to remember the numerous idiots who were sucked in and paid for a boob job on the promise of free fucks that never happened.

For me the whole tipping thing is a no no as I've already paid, but for men to actually pay for boob jobs etc on a promise from a WG, thats just mental  :scare:

I wonder how they felt once they realised they've been kicked to the kerb once shes improved her assets?

mikexxlong

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For me the whole tipping thing is a no no as I've already paid, but for men to actually pay for boob jobs etc on a promise from a WG, thats just mental  :scare:

I wonder how they felt once they realised they've been kicked to the kerb once shes improved her assets?

All I can say is what fucking idiots; they should either seek professional help or stay away from punting/prostitutes

As they are easy targets for the disgusting manipulative users among the pro$$i£ ranks :mad:

Unless a punter stupidly intends to become the whores pimp and a boob job is an investment for a better financial return,
why agree to it? free shags for a year or something  :sarcastic: :dash:

Offline OakTree

For me the whole tipping thing is a no no as I've already paid, but for men to actually pay for boob jobs etc on a promise from a WG, thats just mental  :scare:

I wonder how they felt once they realised they've been kicked to the kerb once shes improved her assets?

This really is desperation and foolishness. This can only be extreme tactics to win over and gain affection.

The sort of individuals that do this are I'm afraid prime candidates for being rinsed. If they weren't showering WGs with exorbitant gifts it would be young sugar daddy hunting students.

They've probably experienced being knocked back and fleeced numerous times but will continue in the thought that the more I give the more I shall receive. Of course that never happens and they never learn.

Offline Marmalade

If you want to show affection, find it inside and then smile. Instead of tipping a waitress, ask her name. People love to be recognised as people. Tipping is avoidance strategy.

SophieScott

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If you want to show affection, find it inside and then smile. Instead of tipping a waitress, ask her name. People love to be recognised as people. Tipping is avoidance strategy.

I've been staying away from this thread but reading with interest, and I wanted to say from a WGs perspective, I agree with this.

I'd always rather have a nice, clean, polite and friendly client than an extra tenner.

I can't speak for everyone but that's my take on it.

Offline Marmalade

I've been staying away from this thread but reading with interest, and I wanted to say from a WGs perspective, I agree with this.

I'd always rather have a nice, clean, polite and friendly client than an extra tenner.

I can't speak for everyone but that's my take on it.

Thanks for the feedback.

oring123

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How does it work with soho walk ups and the maids tip ?
Sound like it is part of required payment ?

Offline Jerboa

I give a tip, always look before crossing the road.  :hi: We are already paying good money, why pay more?
In Germany at Fkk Palace I've had girls ask me for a tip at the lockers at payment, after the session, cheeky cows, but they get lots of clueless tourists/businessmen at that club, and it renound for sharks.

Offline Sonny Crockett

Fuck Tipping. The bullshit thing ever!!!!

The only time I would leave behind something, is the stuff I brought over specifically for the punt, like baby oil or whipped cream

Offline Jerboa

I do think its tacky when the so called high end girls have wish list or amazon links , we definitely earn enough !

Yeah I don't get that either, do plumbers and mechanics have a amazon wishlist? So Why give a WG gifts?

Offline Marmalade

Yeah I don't get that either, do plumbers and mechanics have a amazon wishlist? So Why give a WG gifts?

I think wishlists are so nice I wouldn't to spoil them by giving her anything off it. After all, she wouldn't have any wishes left.


Offline Marmalade

They're a bit nevernever land. A prossie's wishlist should be something like:

I wish all my punters were completely satisfied
I wish I was better at blowjobs
I wish I could spell "tax return"
I wish I wasn't Romanian

that sort of thing ...  :hi:

Offline Brazilian Martian

Sorry to bump this thread but I read a review today where a fellow punter tipped a prossie 20 for a footjob. Then said afterwards it's nothing as he won on a football what makes it worst is this prossie has a history or giving luke warm service's. I really struggle to see why a punter would do this

Offline AnthG

Sorry to bump this thread but I read a review today where a fellow punter tipped a prossie 20 for a footjob. Then said afterwards it's nothing as he won on a football what makes it worst is this prossie has a history or giving luke warm service's. I really struggle to see why a punter would do this

I always thought paying for extra's was always done for things the girl wouldn't normally really want to do, so she needs some extra incentives - i.e CIM, Anal, Waterports etc.

Why would she have any issues with giving a footjob. Infact I would think this would be a pretty easy going booking for her. So why the need for more money for it?
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mikexxlong

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I always thought paying for extra's was always done for things the girl wouldn't normally really want to do, so she needs some extra incentives - i.e CIM, Anal, Waterports etc.

Why would she have any issues with giving a footjob. Infact I would think this would be a pretty easy going booking for her. So why the need for more money for it?

Because they can or think they can get away with it

I’ve had pro$$ie’s list of extra charges for fucking everything,
I was half expecting an extra charge if I wanted to use the sodding bed :mad:

Some whores just blatantly take the piss

Offline Brazilian Martian

I always thought paying for extra's was always done for things the girl wouldn't normally really want to do, so she needs some extra incentives - i.e CIM, Anal, Waterports etc.

Why would she have any issues with giving a footjob. Infact I would think this would be a pretty easy going booking for her. So why the need for more money for it?

Why this bothered me so much is he willingly tipped her I visit this brothel quite regular, even though I have no interest in seeing this girl I think it's a very slippery slope to start tipping prossies because you feel she gave you a remarkable service.

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Offline Brazilian Martian

Because they can or think they can get away with it

I’ve had pro$$ie’s list of extra charges for fucking everything,
I was half expecting an extra charge if I wanted to use the sodding bed :mad:

Some whores just blatantly take the piss

Yes they do but some punters are complete mugs for tipping in my honest opinion.

Offline Marmalade

Because they can or think they can get away with it
Some whores just blatantly take the piss
Why this bothered me so much is he willingly tipped her I visit this brothel quite regular, even though I have no interest in seeing this girl I think it's a very slippery slope to start tipping prossies because you feel she gave you a remarkable service.
some punters are complete mugs
It's a deadly combination for them and for us (at least those of 'us' who have a modicum of common sense!)

It tends to ruin the game for other punters. Like Americans who come over and tip bloody everyone (years ago you used to be able to go and enjoy a decent strip show,much hornier than the ones now, simply by paying an entrance fee, not with grovelling additions each time a cow lifted its garter leg). It creates an expectation. Eventually it creates a dual pricing structure, ruinous to normal people. (on a bigger scale the United Nations did it in Cambodia, until ordinary people could hardy afford to eat, market forces adjusting themselves to what UN salaried people could and would pay).

There is another name for such stupid punters – traitors. Another inch and it is often the same induviduals worshiping the pro$$ies arse, writing love-letter sick reviews, warning her about any comments on UKP and promising her servile lifelong devotion.

And does it do her any good? That is very questionable. It is like giving money to a professional beggar. Instead of encouraging them to be able to support themselves with honest work it rewards non-work, creates dependence, makes the main aim to get money for nothing rather than earn an honest fee, even as a prostitute. It can turn a marginally decent whore into a complete cunt (of the bitter, conniving nazifem variety, not the divine vagina that bringeth the joys of her union to mankind).

Punters that do shit like that are not kind: just stupid.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2016, 11:26:10 pm by Marmalade »

Offline Brazilian Martian

It's a deadly combination for them and for us (at least those of 'us' who have a modicum of common sense!)

It tends to ruin the game for other punters. Like Americans who come over and tip bloody everyone (years ago you used to be able to go and enjoy a decent strip show,much hornier than the ones now, simply by paying an entrance fee, not with grovelling additions each time a cow lifted its garter leg). It creates an expectation. Eventually it creates a dual pricing structure, ruinous to normal people. (on a bigger scale the United Nations did it in Cambodia, until ordinary people could hardy afford to eat, market forces adjusting themselves to what UN salaried people could and would pay).

There is another name for such stupid punters – traitors. Another inch and it is often the same induviduals worshiping the pro$$ies arse, writing love-letter sick reviews, warning her about any comments on UKP and promising her servile lifelong devotion.

And does it do her any good? That is very questionable. It is like giving money to a professional beggar. Instead of encouraging them to be able to support themselves with honest work it rewards non-work, creates dependence, makes the main aim to get money for nothing rather than earn an honest fee, even as a prostitute. It can turn a marginally decent whore into a complete cunt (of the bitter, conniving nazifem variety, not the divine vagina that bringeth the joys of her union to mankind).

Punters that do shit like that are not kind: just stupid.

Well said  :thumbsup: you summed it up perfectly there  i was thinking im being overly critical of this punter and what he done. What really threw me back was his attitude by coming across as it's not a big deal and he can afford and twenty pounds is nothing. While stating he can tip when he pleases he even had the cheek to compare it to tipping in a bar or restaurant

Offline AnthG

While stating he can tip when he pleases he even had the cheek to compare it to tipping in a bar or restaurant

The thing I am thinking of, and to be honest I am not sure on. But if you tip a girl once. Wouldn't this mean you would need to tip her every time you seen her from then on in as it is not a gift. So not something you can say is just a one off. A tip implies you need to do it everytime from then on in. So he has just kind of shot himself in the foot.
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justaguy1213

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What about buying them a box of celebration chocolates? Or is that a no-no?

londonbus

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What about buying them a box of celebration chocolates? Or is that a no-no?

Depends Mr Troll. If for no reason then yes. But if she told you a fantasy about sharing melted chocolate with you then maybe it's just about ok.

ickydicky

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What about buying them a box of celebration chocolates? Or is that a no-no?


why would you buy the hoor anything. you are paying her for a fuck. she is not your girlfriend.

justaguy1213

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Thought it would ease the tension and make it more relaxed. Maybe a slightly better service. But youre right and point taken!

 :hi:

Offline Marmalade

Thought it would ease the tension and make it more relaxed. Maybe a slightly better service. But youre right and point taken!

 :hi:

Get a £1 mini-box of De Rocher from Poundsaver in that case, and wrap it in some discarded paper, has the same effect. Suggests you're 'thoughtful'. Put her name on it at the last minute in case you have to go to a plan B.

I got a great response once from an 80p tube of fruit pastilles. But even well-thought gifts only work with the very occasional WG. The average Romanian cunt-flaps machine with a pretty face just thinks "Why the fuck didn't the bastard give me the money he spent instead of all this Veuve Clicquot crap."

Offline Jerboa

At Fkk Palace after a session with a German blonde, paying her at the money locker the cheeky bitch only asked me outright for a tip! I laughed and told her I'm English not American luv, that response seemed to annoy her, guess our colonial cousins have been spoiling these hookers.  :P

Offline AnthG

What about buying them a box of celebration chocolates? Or is that a no-no?

Acceptable for what exactly?

If you just mean to give the girl. Then really it is just a case of as long as you give the girl the correct money she will take anything you offer her. There is a chance what you give her will go in the bin afterwards or be handed to someone else straight away. But like I say if you are asking ok to give, then yes.

If you are meaning if the girl would be highly appreciative of receiving it. Think of it this way. A box of celebrations doesn't scream out classy, or thoughtful. It's also a gift that everyone knows the value of. It's the sort of gift you would give to someone to mean literally nothing more than a generic thanks and be accepted as such.

So like I say if you are meaning would the girl be highly appreciative. I would say get something more personable. Or more feminine and something the price is not apparent.

A regular box of chocolates would be better than Celebrations. But even better would be a bottle of wine. As many wines the price is not apparent. And you can get cheap wines that taste better than expensive ones (Aldi after all won the awards in 2015 for the nicest tasting wines, beating out wines often 10x their prices). So I would suggest going to Aldi and getting a bottle from there if you want to get a gift.
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Offline Brazilian Martian

What about buying them a box of celebration chocolates? Or is that a no-no?

You're paying them for sex why do you feel the need to buy a prossie chocolates  :unknown: it's not a date it's a business transaction  :hi:

Offline jamal2k94

I feel tipping sends WGs the wrong message, I've been asked a few times and always refused, I'd rather they charged, say £120 for the hour up front than £100 and then start begging for more.

I've never brought a gift, again I feel it's an odd move for what is at the core a service and a financial exchange. Having said that I have taken booze, fags and things for longer bookings to share with the girl.

star69

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 I tipped a girl once, she did not even say thank you. I bought a small gift once she did not seem bothered. I was not expecting anything, maybe a better service that was all.

 Just shows how much prossies think of punters.

Ben4454

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At Fkk Palace after a session with a German blonde, paying her at the money locker the cheeky bitch only asked me outright for a tip! I laughed and told her I'm English not American luv, that response seemed to annoy her, guess our colonial cousins have been spoiling these hookers.  :P

I would of been like yeah i'll give you a tip... learn to suck cock a bit better  :cool:

Offline Stalinator

I would of been like yeah i'll give you a tip... learn to suck cock a bit better  :cool:
It is a tip many could do with.  :lol:

Offline pewpewpew

I just worry that if a girl charges 100 and gets tipped 20 then she'll start believing that she's worth 120. Ruins it for everyone.

I did kind of tip once though. A girl charged me an extra 10 quid for owo and i didn't have change so gave her 20. She asked if i wanted 10 back but i said don't worry about it. Just seemed a bit crass to talk about money you know?

Offline Marmalade

At Fkk Palace after a session with a German blonde, paying her at the money locker the cheeky bitch only asked me outright for a tip! I laughed and told her I'm English not American luv, that response seemed to annoy her, guess our colonial cousins have been spoiling these hookers.  :P
Yeah that happened to me... I think it was Frankfurt. I also told her I thought it wasn't appropriate. It's like going to a 5 star hotel then, as you check out, the cleaning lady starts begging for money. What does she think I am? American?? Those yanks really out to have some education in foreign manners before being allowed out of their country.
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Offline Jerboa

I would of been like yeah i'll give you a tip... learn to suck cock a bit better  :cool:

Yeah or the never eat yellow snow lol, Palace is bad for upselling, and asking for tips as the club lets the girls get away with it, as it's a club that is popular with tourists and travelling businessmen, who don't have a scooby, some of the girls try to extract as much cash as they can, they wouldn't dare ask a local for a tip.

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I always give prossies a tip. The tip of my dick.

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Offline Sparta Prada

I remember seeing a regular just before Christmas. On the dressing table were gifts she had been given by other punters, and when I asked her about it she just shrugged her shoulders.

She thought these guys were kind but bonkers to give her a gift even though they had also paid her good money for her services. She was also concerned about how she was going to carry them all home...

ickydicky

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I remember seeing a regular just before Christmas. On the dressing table were gifts she had been given by other punters, and when I asked her about it she just shrugged her shoulders.

She thought these guys were kind but bonkers to give her a gift even though they had also paid her good money for her services. She was also concerned about how she was going to carry them all home...

similar thing happened with a hoor i was fucking a few years ago. i offered to relieve her of the problem by taking some of the booze of her hands. greedy hoor wasnt to happy with me. :angry:

Offline Roth

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Fabulous! I haven't had any decent gifts for ages, the last client who bought wine (for us to drink in the hour booking just so he could try and drag it out for longer!!)  brought the most shittiest bottle 5 quid can buy, now I'm not a wine snob but I don't like to drink cats pee either...He brought echo falls chardonnay I poured us both a tiny glass had a few sips and threw it down the sink soon as he was out the door ha ha

Posted on SAAFE by the delightful Kat.  Meee-fucking-ow.  :angry:
Probably only drinks Crystal. :wackogirl: :wackogirl:

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Another reason not to bother with a gift or a tip.  :hi:

Offline AnthG

Posted on SAAFE by the delightful Kat.  Meee-fucking-ow.  :angry:
Probably only drinks Crystal. :wackogirl: :wackogirl:

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Another reason not to bother with a gift or a tip.  :hi:

What a fucking cow!

As someone who is not rich, I would say one of the nicest gifts is something that is not expensive but it is as good as something expensive and thought went into it.
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