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Author Topic: Signs of a Bad Punt  (Read 2366 times)

Offline Simple

Although it has already been touched upon about the somewhat sutble signs of a good or bad punt I thought it would prove useful to make a thread where punters can contribute what they believe are indications of a bad or even 'crap' punt. The idea is to hopefully help other punters spot a destined bad punt before cash has exchanged hands allowing for the punter to make his excuses and exit still with the aforementioned cash...

For example, no offer of refreshments, no welcoming greeting (i.e., hug, peck on cheek, etc), still getting ready when the booking is meant to begin, and so forth...

Offline distressed

When the maid says 'She's running a bit late,won't be long 'and I've already heard another girl asking her to bring her back a sandwich from M & S!
The usual excuse about having had dental work done for not giving OWO/CIM when advertisd.

Offline NIK

Yes, not offering a drink is one.
Asking for the money and then blatantly counting it is another.
A third is undressing herself straight away and expecting you to undress yourself. A GFE that is not!

I presume these girls don't understand that an experienced punter can read the signs regarding the quality of the punt within about two minutes of meeting her? I can anyway!

Only occasionally have I been wrong. One was a few months ago Emily Summers didn't prove as good (at least for me) as she had initially promised.
I've also had it work the other way a couple of times when girls who initially appeared unwelcoming / unpromising seemed to warm up and actually deliver more than I was expecting.

However 95% of the time I have the likely quality of the appointment sussed within the first two minutes maximum.

Offline Jimmyredcab

I can also tell within the first few minutes if the punt is going to be successful or a complete disaster, I have become an expert at picking up bad vibes.
I am not too bothered about being offered a drink but the initial greeting should start with a welcoming smile at the very least.
Once the punt gets under way I expect everything that has been agreed in advance, I don't want stupid excuses for services not being available---such as "I can't do kissing because I have a mouth ulcer".
I want the punt to go at my pace, any sign of the girl rushing procedings will result in a loss of my enthusiasm and possibly my erection, even on a 30 minute punt there is no need to put on the condom in the first 10 minutes.
I find that bad service is not so common in the Far East, I wonder if that is because you don't pay in advance and you can terminate the punt at any stage.   ;) ;)

Offline itsmekurt

If the girl doesn’t look you in the eye, seems aloof and/or surly, behaves in a matter-of-fact way, and seems to be trying to make herself unattractive. Signs that she just doesn't fancy shagging you. >:(

Offline softlad

Mobile phone not turned off, pisses me off.

Offline itsmekurt

Eating a bag of crisps with the other hand - it did happen!!

Offline Lucy chambers

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Eating a bag of crisps with the other hand - it did happen!!

You cannot be serious? Tell me that you are joking?


One thing, re the money. Many ladies do not want to leave the room and count the money- unfortunately if it is incorrect coming back to tell you so could be seen as an attempt to rip you of. The better compromise is if you fan it out on a bedside or something, where it can be picked up with ease.

Offline Mellow

Have two punting phones, make two bookings a few days apart for the same time. No loss to the hooker if one doesn't turn up, more fun if both fake names choose a girl/parlour that doesn't lie about availability. Money and time saved

Offline GlasgowGirl

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Ok -

*No Welcome greeting - agreed. This is imo bad service.
*No offer of refreshments - hmmm. It is a nice touch (I always offer) but not necessarily a predictor of doom!
*Still getting ready at start time - not very professional and I try to avoid this by leaving a lot of leeway time between punters but does absolutely everything in your life run to exact times? If this happened I would be sure to give the client his full time even if it made me later. Also she may have had a client before you who couldn't "finish" and took forever.
* Agree with you on the not offering services stated on website/profile etc because of dental work / mouth ulcers. If I have any problems like this I offer massage and hand relief at an obviously reduced rate from my normal rate until I'm better.
* Jesus Christ NIK! Her asking for money within the first 2 mins is a bit extreme but money SHOULD definately be given before anything physical occurs. How many guys do you think would run away without paying if we didn't require money up front? Or suddenly not have enough in their wallet? It is ridiculous to suggest anything other than money upfront. Same to you JRC. My window cleaner cleans my windows before being paid yes, but if I don't pay him, he is just going to be pissed off, not feel used sexually if I don't pay him!!! Like Lucy said too, counting the cash (discreetly) in front of the client is a must because misunderstandings can not be cleared up after the lady is out of sight.
*Phone not turned off would really irritate the shit out of me if I were a client.



Offline softlad

Another sign a punt isn't going to be as you hoped.

When you have gone to the trouble of explaining what kind of out fit you would like her to wear, (I'm a fan of stockings & suspenders) and you arrive to find she has thought better of it, and says:
" this will do won't it ? "

I can get bare legs and crap lingerie at home..... Why bother ?  ???

 
« Last Edit: November 13, 2010, 09:46:58 PM by softlad »

Offline NIK

Ok -

*No Welcome greeting - agreed. This is imo bad service.
*No offer of refreshments - hmmm. It is a nice touch (I always offer) but not necessarily a predictor of doom!
*Still getting ready at start time - not very professional and I try to avoid this by leaving a lot of leeway time between punters but does absolutely everything in your life run to exact times? If this happened I would be sure to give the client his full time even if it made me later. Also she may have had a client before you who couldn't "finish" and took forever.
* Agree with you on the not offering services stated on website/profile etc because of dental work / mouth ulcers. If I have any problems like this I offer massage and hand relief at an obviously reduced rate from my normal rate until I'm better.
* Jesus Christ NIK! Her asking for money within the first 2 mins is a bit extreme but money SHOULD definately be given before anything physical occurs. How many guys do you think would run away without paying if we didn't require money up front? Or suddenly not have enough in their wallet? It is ridiculous to suggest anything other than money upfront. Same to you JRC. My window cleaner cleans my windows before being paid yes, but if I don't pay him, he is just going to be pissed off, not feel used sexually if I don't pay him!!! Like Lucy said too, counting the cash (discreetly) in front of the client is a must because misunderstandings can not be cleared up after the lady is out of sight.
*Phone not turned off would really irritate the shit out of me if I were a client.




I ALWAYS give the money straight away. However that doesn't mean to say I can't tell those who are just mercenary bastards from the way they respond.

Offline Jimmyredcab



 It is ridiculous to suggest anything other than money upfront. Same to you JRC.



I sometimes get girls in Thailand ask for the money upfront, I simply offer them £1 for a taxi, amazing how they come round to my way of thinking ---------- in the UK I would always expect to pay first.

Offline Mellow

Paying money upfront or at the end of a booking is a matter of respect. I say it's about time that the punter is shown the respect he deserves. I'm no scammer, don't treat me as such merely because there may be tossers out there that fuck around over the dosh.

Giving a man a great service will reduce the chance of bartering too.

Offline NIK

I sometimes get girls in Thailand ask for the money upfront, I simply offer them £1 for a taxi, amazing how they come round to my way of thinking ---------- in the UK I would always expect to pay first.

One of the best girls I've ever see - Jimmy has seen her too - used to say she didn't expect the money until she had done something to earn it.
Ok -

*No Welcome greeting - agreed. This is imo bad service.
*No offer of refreshments - hmmm. It is a nice touch (I always offer) but not necessarily a predictor of doom!
*Still getting ready at start time - not very professional and I try to avoid this by leaving a lot of leeway time between punters but does absolutely everything in your life run to exact times? If this happened I would be sure to give the client his full time even if it made me later. Also she may have had a client before you who couldn't "finish" and took forever.
* Agree with you on the not offering services stated on website/profile etc because of dental work / mouth ulcers. If I have any problems like this I offer massage and hand relief at an obviously reduced rate from my normal rate until I'm better.
* Jesus Christ NIK! Her asking for money within the first 2 mins is a bit extreme but money SHOULD definately be given before anything physical occurs. How many guys do you think would run away without paying if we didn't require money up front? Or suddenly not have enough in their wallet? It is ridiculous to suggest anything other than money upfront. Same to you JRC. My window cleaner cleans my windows before being paid yes, but if I don't pay him, he is just going to be pissed off, not feel used sexually if I don't pay him!!! Like Lucy said too, counting the cash (discreetly) in front of the client is a must because misunderstandings can not be cleared up after the lady is out of sight.
*Phone not turned off would really irritate the shit out of me if I were a client.





One of the best girls I've ever see - Jimmy has seen her too - used to say she didn't expect the money until she had done something to earn it.

I expect she was ridiculous?

Offline Lurtz

I've NEVER had a bad punt punt from a girl who asked for the money at the end of a punt.
ALL of my poor punts have been from girls who wanted the money immediately.

Offline NIK

I've NEVER had a bad punt punt from a girl who asked for the money at the end of a punt.
ALL of my poor punts have been from girls who wanted the money immediately.

Precisely!

Offline Lucy chambers

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Precisely!

It really does depend on the clients. Regular clients don't tend to be a problem, but there are some charming rip off merchants who's MO is to leap on you, start trying to undress you , kiss you, lick your face even, attempt to have stand up sex with you, who then discover that they have left their wallet in the car. It is a little different in a parlour, where I would imagine that there are security type people around. But if someone comes to my apartment and they are new, I usually expect to be given my fee without asking. I don't want to have to ask for it if possible, therefore leaving it somewhere we can both see it is mutually acceptable, I hope.

Offline Jacob

I've NEVER had a bad punt punt from a girl who asked for the money at the end of a punt.
ALL of my poor punts have been from girls who wanted the money immediately.

Got to agree with that including Prossies working in Parlours. It's in part down to mutual respect and trust IMO.

I usually try to get the 'paperwork' out of the way at the beginning but on occasion it has slipped my mind when she girl is immediately all over me. An eager tongue down my throat within seconds is always a sign that things are likely to go pretty well.  :)

Other than that just a smile and some common courtesy is a damn good pointer that it will be good.

Offline NIK

It really does depend on the clients. Regular clients don't tend to be a problem, but there are some charming rip off merchants who's MO is to leap on you, start trying to undress you , kiss you, lick your face even, attempt to have stand up sex with you, who then discover that they have left their wallet in the car. It is a little different in a parlour, where I would imagine that there are security type people around. But if someone comes to my apartment and they are new, I usually expect to be given my fee without asking. I don't want to have to ask for it if possible, therefore leaving it somewhere we can both see it is mutually acceptable, I hope.

Yes, this is all fair enough, and what I always do. I wouldn't expect someone who hadn't seen me before just to trust me.
However none of this negates the fact that how the wg approaches the money is often a sign of things to come.

Apart from the girl I just mentioned (who really was unique) I remember Karina, a Russian girl I saw once (who was actually working for an agency!) initially refusung the money I offered as she really was a nympho and wanted to get on with the business. Not only did I consequently nearly forget the money (I did pay her eventually) but she was happy to run over and carry on. I don't think she wanted any more money either, but I had already cum twice so was ready to leave.
Don't know what the agency would have thought about her generosity, but she admitted she was virtually burnt out. She'd had about a dozen FR's in a couple of months, so she must have seen a hell of a lot of clients as most don't do FR's and unsurprisingly she left very soon after.

Offline Lurtz

I don't often have bad punts but the 3 girls that come to mind (who all demanded the money at the beginning and 2 of whom lied about the services they provide) did not stay around for very long. One was gone within the day, another was gone within the week, another was gone within the month. You can only deceive people for so long before the owners kick them out.

Offline itsmekurt


You cannot be serious? Tell me that you are joking?


Exagerating maybe. It was at a parlour in Chorlton (more than one tin) which I think has now closed. She was British - Asian. She walked into the massage room guzzling a packet of those cheese flavoured things that always give me the farts. She looked OK but she was course and crude and totally matter-of-fact. It would not be an exageration to say that she was far more interested in the snack than she was in any part of my anatomy. Needless to say, came quick and left quicker, never to return. :(

Offline Jimmyredcab

It really does depend on the clients. Regular clients don't tend to be a problem.

I fully understand what you are saying. I sometimes insist on pre-payment when I get a long job, especially late at night, the vast majority of my passengers are good as gold --------- but when you get stung for £50 or £60 it makes you very wary in the future.

Offline itsmekurt

Personally, I not only expect to pay up front for sex, I insist on getting the commercial stuff out of the way as soon as possible. That way I can concentrate of enjoying myself.

Offline Mellow

I fully understand what you are saying. I sometimes insist on pre-payment when I get a long job, especially late at night, the vast majority of my passengers are good as gold --------- but when you get stung for £50 or £60 it makes you very wary in the future.
Mind you, Jimmy, the cost of running your cab will actually cause you to make a loss if you got a runner. A courtesan (ROTFLOL) merely loses her, albeit, fragile dignity.


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