Are most prossies useless and is it our fault? or is it a good thing?...

[jimbobwood]

Reading the latest negative reviews in the London section and thinking about my past negative experiences. Makes me think most prossies are useless and need a reality check! They want big money for nothing.

How difficult is it to DFK/nice sensual kiss, suck cock, being fucked in various positions, having their pussy licked? It's a piece of cake surely! If you get some ugly bugger, bad hygiene, cheese dick or anything unacceptable - turn him away, refund him (don't take his money and avoid doing what he ask for and give a shit service!) The only hard services are anal, swallowing cum, deepthroat, rimming and being spanked. Most of the high paying ones don't even offer the harder services or like to add on £20-£30 for extra each service.

Looking through Adultwork you know most of the listings will be shit, with the cold snake faces (Romanians) or the profiles not presented well. I've seen shit prossies get countless negatives reviews for years and they are still going - probably making good money from mug punters. These prossies should not exist but are still in the business. Anyone else with a skill (or no skill) doing a poor job would be unemployed and signing on down the job centre.

Punters are at fault for this. Not doing research, accepting shitty services and being easy to please. I don't think paying less comes into it automatically, although paying £100ph plus for a punt overall get's you a higher all round quality punt - with research. I've had £20 Soho punts with prossies with excellent attitude and I've paid £100 before for a shit service.

Looking at the data on UKP. The prossies charging £100 plus are the most consistent and have the most positive reviews. Platinum Cindy, Adele4u, Michelle Independent, Ellie Rose and more. They are worth it and it is a skill to make men feel great and sexual satisfied. These highly regarded prossies don't have to do anything highly undesirable. They get by being enthusiastic, willing to please, good personality and communication skills. I think they are a minority in the punting world and most prossies are useless at their job

With the £70-100ph price bracket, there are positive reviews but always a few glitches. Like doesn't kiss properly, only suck tip of the cock and uses hands a lot or cowgirl position poor technique, not consistent. The positives are nice girl, showed enthusiasm, tried hard to please - BUT NO CIGAR!!!

I think the trick is book in advance with a highly reviewed prossie and use quick fix solutions i.e have a wank, low effort civvie action(if you can get it) or a walkup. Avoid last minute punts.

What also got me thinking - Is there enough good prossies for all punters. If everyone booked the highly regarded prossies, we would need to book 6 months in advance unless your a regular with the prossie. Do we need punters to make bad choices seeing the low life skanks that are polluting AW, to free space for punters to see the good ones.

If someone does TOFTT and finds a VFM gem, is it worth sharing? When in the same week 10 other punters have seen the same prossie and you are struggling to get the second booking with your new VFM darling.

Just food for thought. There are so many shit prossies making very good money for being shit at their job. Do we need the bad, so punters who make poor choices will leave space to see the good ones? or make the shit ones extinct and wait in the queue for 6 months and in the mean time wank, use parlours or such things for a quick fix.

[vw]

I think the trick is book in advance with a highly reviewed prossie and use quick fix solutions i.e have a wank, low effort civvie action(if you can get it) or a walkup. Avoid last minute punts.

That works for the pokememon only type punter that leeches of others good reviews, because if you always do them, you are a leech here.

Offering nothing to other punters as you do nothing new.

What a dire way of punting, one for those with no balls or imagination to try something new.

These highly reviewed prossies had none once, where would the new ones come from, yes you got it other peoples hard work.

Each to their own though, most socialist communities run out of cash and resources.  Just as here would if people took this awful suggestion.

And finally this sort of punter who only does the popular girls generally have fluffy white knight tendencies.  Like this

When I see her again I might just add one due to the recent negative report.

I avoid the popular like the plague, I'm not a circus animal who likes jumping through hoops.  And yes you guessed it I enjoy my punting.

[EnglishRebecca121]

Yes in a way its easy money but ask yourself if you could do it.
99 percent of the time i love it but when you get stalkers / agressive men you do question it.

its alot more than just having sex. As a gfe provider i need to make the men feel like im their girlfriend for the time they have booked , that in itself is sometimes not easy , some men develop eas and thats unhealthy.

Add that to people running late, no show and fake bookings and u have a typical escort day !!

[vw]

If someone does TOFTT and finds a VFM gem, is it worth sharing? When in the same week 10 other punters have seen the same prossie and you are struggling to get the second booking with your new VFM darling.

There are lots of decent punters that do, don't blame them sharing by pm for the time after discovery of a gem.

Finder privilege really.

Note to punters that want their own gem, do the mining !

[Private Parts]

Finder privilege really.

Note to punters that want their own gem, do the mining !

On that note punters get the WG they deserve. No such thing as a free lunch.
P

[jimbobwood]

VW, I agree it's not a very exciting way to punt and lacks the risk, but if you want a high success rate you have to pick highly reviewed girls or be extremely lucky. The popular ones do attract the worse type of fluffies. I think this is why seeking arrangements is starting to get very popular. You find your own gems, £200 for an overnighter. There is nothing wrong with waiting a few months to see a popular prossie, just filling the gap during the waiting time.

If people stopped posting reviews and sharing tips, they would have to do their own hard work and take a risk. It's a more rewarding way to punt trying to find a gem. I've seen highly regard girls before, but I didn't get that after feeling of discovering something new. When you TOFTT and it works out bad, it's such a waste of money.

[vw]

VW, I agree it's not a very exciting way to punt and lacks the risk, but if you want a high success rate you have to pick highly reviewed girls or be extremely lucky. The popular ones do attract the worse type of fluffies. I think this is why seeking arrangements is starting to get very popular. You find your own gems, £200 for an overnighter. There is nothing wrong with waiting a few months to see a popular prossie, just filling the gap during the waiting time.

If people stopped posting reviews and sharing tips, they would have to do their own hard work and take a risk. It's a more rewarding way to punt trying to find a gem. I've seen highly regard girls before, but I didn't get that after feeling of discovering something new. When you TOFTT and it works out bad, it's such a waste of money.

I have in the past and always been an anti climax, its not for me, need the edge in the game.  Each to their own I'm just not suited to being a cotton wool punter or in any other aspect of my life.   Makes me itch !

Waiting months to see a prossy is ludicrous in my opinion would not entertain that idea, not the pokemon type person really.  I know some will quote something to look forward to as a defence of their obsession with a certain girl.

Happy anyway, why change and join a queue !

[jimbobwood]

Yes in a way its easy money but ask yourself if you could do it.
99 percent of the time i love it but when you get stalkers / agressive men you do question it.

its alot more than just having sex. As a gfe provider i need to make the men feel like im their girlfriend for the time they have booked , that in itself is sometimes not easy , some men develop eas and thats unhealthy.

Add that to people running late, no show and fake bookings and u have a typical escort day !!

Yes, you do get problems. People in normal jobs get the same sort of shit and are paid a lot less. i.e shitty boss, annoying co-workers, bad customers, bullying and the list goes on.

I can imagine dealing with stalkers is difficult. How do you deal with that? get police involved, block them, change working location...

GFE is a skill and does take acting skills and practice to achieve it.

Overall, it is easy money.

[smiths]

Reading the latest negative reviews in the London section and thinking about my past negative experiences. Makes me think most prossies are useless and need a reality check! They want big money for nothing.

How difficult is it to DFK/nice sensual kiss, suck cock, being fucked in various positions, having their pussy licked? It's a piece of cake surely! If you get some ugly bugger, bad hygiene, cheese dick or anything unacceptable - turn him away, refund him (don't take his money and avoid doing what he ask for and give a shit service!) The only hard services are anal, swallowing cum, deepthroat, rimming and being spanked. Most of the high paying ones don't even offer the harder services or like to add on £20-£30 for extra each service.

Looking through Adultwork you know most of the listings will be shit, with the cold snake faces (Romanians) or the profiles not presented well. I've seen shit prossies get countless negatives reviews for years and they are still going - probably making good money from mug punters. These prossies should not exist but are still in the business. Anyone else with a skill (or no skill) doing a poor job would be unemployed and signing on down the job centre.

Punters are at fault for this. Not doing research, accepting shitty services and being easy to please. I don't think paying less comes into it automatically, although paying £100ph plus for a punt overall get's you a higher all round quality punt - with research. I've had £20 Soho punts with prossies with excellent attitude and I've paid £100 before for a shit service.

Looking at the data on UKP. The prossies charging £100 plus are the most consistent and have the most positive reviews. Platinum Cindy, Adele4u, Michelle Independent, Ellie Rose and more. They are worth it and it is a skill to make men feel great and sexual satisfied. These highly regarded prossies don't have to do anything highly undesirable. They get by being enthusiastic, willing to please, good personality and communication skills. I think they are a minority in the punting world and most prossies are useless at their job

With the £70-100ph price bracket, there are positive reviews but always a few glitches. Like doesn't kiss properly, only suck tip of the cock and uses hands a lot or cowgirl position poor technique, not consistent. The positives are nice girl, showed enthusiasm, tried hard to please - BUT NO CIGAR!!!

I think the trick is book in advance with a highly reviewed prossie and use quick fix solutions i.e have a wank, low effort civvie action(if you can get it) or a walkup. Avoid last minute punts.

What also got me thinking - Is there enough good prossies for all punters. If everyone booked the highly regarded prossies, we would need to book 6 months in advance unless your a regular with the prossie. Do we need punters to make bad choices seeing the low life skanks that are polluting AW, to free space for punters to see the good ones.

If someone does TOFTT and finds a VFM gem, is it worth sharing? When in the same week 10 other punters have seen the same prossie and you are struggling to get the second booking with your new VFM darling.

Just food for thought. There are so many shit prossies making very good money for being shit at their job. Do we need the bad, so punters who make poor choices will leave space to see the good ones? or make the shit ones extinct and wait in the queue for 6 months and in the mean time wank, use parlours or such things for a quick fix.

There aren't always glitches with WGs who charge £70-100 an hour as I know from my own experiences. As ever it depends on the WG and her own individual attitude which is what makes a good or bad WG, NOT what she happens to charge.

A/W has certainly got worse in the last year in my view, its like wading knee high in shit looking for a gem. If I find a gem or get an off board recommendation of one I may not post about her on here at least until I and if its a rec the other punter has had his fill.

There are many mug punters about and I cant see that changing anytime soon, that is why bad WGs still get punters of course. One thing about the forum darlings you list is it can be hard to actually get a booking off them as they are servicing god knows how many cocks cashing in while they can, great for them, bad for me as their way of operating doesn't suit me as I wont know a fortnight next Wednesday whether I will fancy a punt or not, plus some insist on punters jumping through hoops which I wont do to book a WG, for example booking through A/W, a site owned by low lifes who I want nothing to do with apart from locating WGs with displayed numbers off their site as its the best for that that I know of.

[mikexxlong]

I think most pro$$i£s go on the game, simply to make as much money as quickly as possible, with as little effort as possible, hence the amount of shit service providers out there

I would guess a lot are not sexually motivated to do the work i.e. they don’t love the cock or have nymphomaniac  tendencies ,so it’s not a case of I might as well get paid good money for doing something I enjoy ,
The good WGs that are not sexually motivated, are simply good actresses who convincingly go through the motions.

To us as punters it doesn’t make much difference whether it’s all an act or she’s really into the fucking, just as long as we get a good service etc.
But for most prossie’s I reckon  it’s just a chore and they can’t hide their displeasure that well
 
Throw the trafficked & forced WGs into the mix, who understandably might not be the most enthusiastic girls you meet
And that’s a lot of soil & rock to dig through to find the gems
 
I personally do like the uncertainly of trying unknown WGs makes it all a bit more exciting you never know quite what will happen

But as a contradiction at times part of me would like the guarantee that I could just choose whatever WG that meet my sexual desire that day and I would get the sexual satisfaction I wanted

[justfornow]

I'm after the service not the chase so if I can't book a girl when I want I won't do it.

Regarding TOFTT I don't know how reviews change availability in London but in Leeds it happened few times were some wgs got popular and busy but it's never bad enough to not review.
If I do TOFTT I will always review because I know if someone did that before me I wouldn't have to do it. I don't think I was a first client for any wg so previous punters either don't know or use actively ukp.

The more I punt the more I'm amazed how hard it is to find a wg that can kiss DFK or sensually or how bad some girls are at sucking cock. Some girls are so good they make me think giving good head is like an art form:)
I'm no prize or a stud in bed but I'm not doing it for living either.

I assume that if you take away attitude towards work it all comes down to people being people and the fact that some are just shit at most things they're doing.
I'm sure there's a factory manager somewhere scratching his head wondering how can someone fuck up simple job of putting stuff in boxes

[jcdmj12]

VW, I agree it's not a very exciting way to punt and lacks the risk, but if you want a high success rate you have to pick highly reviewed girls or be extremely lucky. The popular ones do attract the worse type of fluffies. I think this is why seeking arrangements is starting to get very popular. You find your own gems, £200 for an overnighter. There is nothing wrong with waiting a few months to see a popular prossie, just filling the gap during the waiting time.

If people stopped posting reviews and sharing tips, they would have to do their own hard work and take a risk. It's a more rewarding way to punt trying to find a gem. I've seen highly regard girls before, but I didn't get that after feeling of discovering something new. When you TOFTT and it works out bad, it's such a waste of money.

I've generally found the popular prossies to be underwhelming on the whole; not because there is anything wrong with their service per se, but because I have a very clear idea of what I want, and it's not the same as other punters. 

I think there is also an element of unrealistic expectations. By the time you have read 20+ versions of different punters' sexual ephinanies, inevitably the girl will be unable to live up to the vision of Aphroditean perfection that's been created.

A girl who you think will probably be ok, who then puts in an unexpected stellar performance will always be more satisfying. My highest success rate has been with girls who have no more than a handful of reviews, sometimes just 1.

I have a policy of always reviewing the bad encounters, usually reviewing the good ones if I feel I can add anything, but only sharing the real gems (I'm talking the top 5%) via PM with those who have helped me before, at least until such time as my enthusiasm has waned a bit.  The reason for that is as VW stated above - part of the appeal is that they are fresh and easily bookable, and those factors disappear quickly once girls get a lot of reviews.  It's the tragedy of the commons, unfortunately.

Personally, I find bad reviews to be more helpful, as although my tastes differ from many others on the board, a bad attitude is a bad attitude.

[yumyum3]

Good post jimbobwood 

They want big money for nothing.

Indeed. Don't we all, but as you correctly point out:

Punters are at fault for this. Not doing research, accepting shitty services and being easy to please.

As many respected members point out to me on here: "it probably won't change anytime soon" or "it's market forces" but at least with UKP we get to try and challenge bad service providers and white knighting fluffies. I've seen many posts on here talking about how someone charging £100 or sometimes much more is "good value for money". That sort of statement lacks perspective as far as I'm concerned. As I've pointed out many times. Most highly qualified professionals can only dream of earning that kind of money. 

[hendrix]

Interesting post jimbobwood

I don't think there's any doubt that a lot of the AW population of prossies are shit by any reasonable measure. The only realistic way of dealing with this is as you state, research, review honestly and don't reward poor service/attitude with repeat visits.

One benefit of seeing a top reviewed prossie is that it sometimes puts into perspective what you think "good service" actually is. Then, you have a proper benchmark. Allowing of course for YMMV which applies to ANY prossie.

[HappyandLucky]

Interesting thread. I punt by the day when the urge takes me, so I have only booked on the day. Probably why my hit or miss rate is about 50/50, with a rare few that fall into the excellent range.
For the WG's that have a choice, in my view it's easy money. Not sure many have the ability to make half as much money in a civvie 9-5. A few hours of acting and interaction and then that's an average persons salary for the week. If we all went down the proven WG's only route we would be left in a holding pattern with acheing balls. I keep my punting joy via a few select regs and then trying a new dish of the day

[Escort 1]

I think long term goals/ motivation matter: ie Romanian in the UK for 6 months takes as much money as she can, possibly fake pics, money paid for extras, let's you know she's 'doing you a favour'. By the time her reputation catches up with her, she's back in Romania.
Obviously the rock bottom would be addiction as a motivation.

On the other hand, For instance an English escort who wants to make good money for a few years and secure a future, is more likely to concentrate on customer retention so offer fair services, reliability etc. then again, like in any job, there are people who take pride in what they do and people who don't. Yes, 'pride' and 'whore' might seem like a clash but basically, some just want to 'do it well'.

[WelshClipper]

Just a question: Surely it is the interest of the wg to make a good impression on the first punt. Just as the punter tries to do everything correct. I assume there is a desire to impress on both sides.

On the other hand you read that the first punt is not up to par because the wg does not invest the time in a one time punter. Preferring regulars.

So in your view, which is correct, or is it a mixture of the two ???

[yumyum3]

Yes, 'pride' and 'whore' might seem like a clash but basically, some just want to 'do it well'.

Doesn't seem like it to me. Good filthy fun with ladies who "do it well" is tops in my book. Paid or unpaid. Fake orgasm or real. Turn me on, keep me hard as granite and make me spasm when I orgasm and feel proud as you like 

[vw]

I think long term goals/ motivation matter: ie Romanian in the UK for 6 months takes as much money as she can, possibly fake pics, money paid for extras, let's you know she's 'doing you a favour'. By the time her reputation catches up with her, she's back in Romania.
Obviously the rock bottom would be addiction as a motivation.

On the other hand, For instance an English escort who wants to make good money for a few years and secure a future, is more likely to concentrate on customer retention so offer fair services, reliability etc. then again, like in any job, there are people who take pride in what they do and people who don't. Yes, 'pride' and 'whore' might seem like a clash but basically, some just want to 'do it well'.

Are you an English escort by any chance ?

Hear the same line from many English escorts about all nationalities ?

[Escort 1]

Are you an English escort by any chance ?

Hear the same line from many English escorts about all nationalities ?

You'll be shocked to read I'm not English and English isn't my first language. I'm not Romanian either though ! They were just random examples to illustrate  extremes: of someone probably coming from a harsh economic climate who can come to the UK for 6 months and make more than she would make in her home country in several years, wasn't forced in the profession but it was her only chance of better life...

Or as the opposite example, someone English, to whom wider choices are available in the light of the better economic climate and state benefits...I can see how she might want to build a 'career' out of it and make good sustainable money for 10 yrs.

That said, some foreign girls from poorer countries might give a better service because they feel they get 'a lot of money' vs their country, whilst I'm sure there are English prossies who have zero standards.
Also , I wonder about wg who tour, why? Why not have a reliable/stable client base? Can it be an excuse for bad services? (Obviously her business wouldn't be based on client loyalty, given she moves around).
May I add, this is not meant to be insulting to anyone who does tour, has done tours, I'm just curious on why some girls are permanently on tour. I apologise if I offend anyone involuntarily.

[willmo1]

To be blunt Ive not had one wg who made it feel like anything other than a fuck for money. No surprise there because thats all it is. Not a complaint just reality. 

[7x5]

Most people are useless, doing jobs that don't matter to buy things they don't need. The whole world could do with a reality check.

On the one hand apparently it isn't that hard to fuck a complete stranger and lie to make them feel special. On the other hand apparently it is not only a skill, but it worth paying good money for too. Make your mind up.

The only things that have ever been up my poop chute were doctors fingers and the occasional camera but heck even I'd go Gay for Pay if I thought I could make a decent living for doing fuck all from it, but there is quite clearly more to it than simply bending over.

[Escort 1]

By the way, it wasn't meant maliciously when I wrote 'you'll be shocked to learn I'm not english' , it was ironic and the standard of my English is largely dependent on my spellchecker...)

[justfornow]

(...)
Also , I wonder about wg who tour, why? Why not have a reliable/stable client base? Can it be an excuse for bad services? (Obviously her business wouldn't be based on client loyalty, given she moves around).
(...)

One of touring wgs I've seen says she makes way more money being constantly on tour. I think she tours same cities.

[MintRoyale]

I think if they increase their fanbase in multiple cities, they can almost ensure steady income. 1 popular London girl visits once a month and is usually booked out within days before she arrives. Not sure how she does in her home town

[jlike]

Also , I wonder about wg who tour, why? Why not have a reliable/stable client base? Can it be an excuse for bad services? (Obviously her business wouldn't be based on client loyalty, given she moves around)

One of my regular wg's tours every so often, going to towns that are a bit out of the way ( SW England) with no or very few wgs. She says she makes good money and can be booked solid for a couple of days tour.

[Sonny Crockett]

Reading the latest negative reviews in the London section and thinking about my past negative experiences. Makes me think most prossies are useless and need a reality check! They want big money for nothing.

How difficult is it to DFK/nice sensual kiss, suck cock, being fucked in various positions, having their pussy licked? It's a piece of cake surely! If you get some ugly bugger, bad hygiene, cheese dick or anything unacceptable - turn him away, refund him (don't take his money and avoid doing what he ask for and give a shit service!) The only hard services are anal, swallowing cum, deepthroat, rimming and being spanked. Most of the high paying ones don't even offer the harder services or like to add on £20-£30 for extra each service.

Looking through Adultwork you know most of the listings will be shit, with the cold snake faces (Romanians) or the profiles not presented well. I've seen shit prossies get countless negatives reviews for years and they are still going - probably making good money from mug punters. These prossies should not exist but are still in the business. Anyone else with a skill (or no skill) doing a poor job would be unemployed and signing on down the job centre.

Punters are at fault for this. Not doing research, accepting shitty services and being easy to please. I don't think paying less comes into it automatically, although paying £100ph plus for a punt overall get's you a higher all round quality punt - with research. I've had £20 Soho punts with prossies with excellent attitude and I've paid £100 before for a shit service.

Looking at the data on UKP. The prossies charging £100 plus are the most consistent and have the most positive reviews. Platinum Cindy, Adele4u, Michelle Independent, Ellie Rose and more. They are worth it and it is a skill to make men feel great and sexual satisfied. These highly regarded prossies don't have to do anything highly undesirable. They get by being enthusiastic, willing to please, good personality and communication skills. I think they are a minority in the punting world and most prossies are useless at their job

With the £70-100ph price bracket, there are positive reviews but always a few glitches. Like doesn't kiss properly, only suck tip of the cock and uses hands a lot or cowgirl position poor technique, not consistent. The positives are nice girl, showed enthusiasm, tried hard to please - BUT NO CIGAR!!!

I think the trick is book in advance with a highly reviewed prossie and use quick fix solutions i.e have a wank, low effort civvie action(if you can get it) or a walkup. Avoid last minute punts.

What also got me thinking - Is there enough good prossies for all punters. If everyone booked the highly regarded prossies, we would need to book 6 months in advance unless your a regular with the prossie. Do we need punters to make bad choices seeing the low life skanks that are polluting AW, to free space for punters to see the good ones.

If someone does TOFTT and finds a VFM gem, is it worth sharing? When in the same week 10 other punters have seen the same prossie and you are struggling to get the second booking with your new VFM darling.

Just food for thought. There are so many shit prossies making very good money for being shit at their job. Do we need the bad, so punters who make poor choices will leave space to see the good ones? or make the shit ones extinct and wait in the queue for 6 months and in the mean time wank, use parlours or such things for a quick fix.

Sadly there will always be a share of bad pro$$ies offering service. That is the nature of the whole thing. Those pro$$ies don't really give a damn about what the punter wants and just goes about messing them around, telling them bullshit, and when it comes to the meeting give the punter an absolutely shit service. Then when the punter leaves feedback or does a negative review, the pro$$ie gives the punter abuse as their bad ways are being exposed, and she doesn't like that as she wants to continue in that fashion.

[LL]

I think the only ones that are any good are the ones that don't work too much and still enjoy their job. Whether that means just working normal office hours or working longer hours but only for a couple of weeks at a time acheives the same result. Yes I think the good ones with the right attitude that I'm looking for in order to enjoy it, are a minority.

I would prefer those prossies who didn't enjoy their job and give a shit service as a result to just quit and save us punters and themselves all the hassle.

[seward]

Absolutely agree 100% excellent post

[arthurguinness]

a good punt is like a date....you both find what in common you like (accurate enjoys list coupled with punters booking girls who provide what they want).
punts go downhill when these two dont match. ive been guilty of booking a girl on visual appearance rather than service (obvs looks comes into it) but im onto a loser before i get tygh the  front door. Now i book girls i know the score with or TOFTT with the excitement of good, bad or indifference

[NIK]

Reading the latest negative reviews in the London section and thinking about my past negative experiences. Makes me think most prossies are useless and need a reality check! They want big money for nothing.

How difficult is it to DFK/nice sensual kiss, suck cock, being fucked in various positions, having their pussy licked? It's a piece of cake surely! If you get some ugly bugger, bad hygiene, cheese dick or anything unacceptable - turn him away, refund him (don't take his money and avoid doing what he ask for and give a shit service!) The only hard services are anal, swallowing cum, deepthroat, rimming and being spanked. Most of the high paying ones don't even offer the harder services or like to add on £20-£30 for extra each service.

Looking through Adultwork you know most of the listings will be shit, with the cold snake faces (Romanians) or the profiles not presented well. I've seen shit prossies get countless negatives reviews for years and they are still going - probably making good money from mug punters. These prossies should not exist but are still in the business. Anyone else with a skill (or no skill) doing a poor job would be unemployed and signing on down the job centre.

Punters are at fault for this. Not doing research, accepting shitty services and being easy to please. I don't think paying less comes into it automatically, although paying £100ph plus for a punt overall get's you a higher all round quality punt - with research. I've had £20 Soho punts with prossies with excellent attitude and I've paid £100 before for a shit service.

Looking at the data on UKP. The prossies charging £100 plus are the most consistent and have the most positive reviews. Platinum Cindy, Adele4u, Michelle Independent, Ellie Rose and more. They are worth it and it is a skill to make men feel great and sexual satisfied. These highly regarded prossies don't have to do anything highly undesirable. They get by being enthusiastic, willing to please, good personality and communication skills. I think they are a minority in the punting world and most prossies are useless at their job

With the £70-100ph price bracket, there are positive reviews but always a few glitches. Like doesn't kiss properly, only suck tip of the cock and uses hands a lot or cowgirl position poor technique, not consistent. The positives are nice girl, showed enthusiasm, tried hard to please - BUT NO CIGAR!!!

I think the trick is book in advance with a highly reviewed prossie and use quick fix solutions i.e have a wank, low effort civvie action(if you can get it) or a walkup. Avoid last minute punts.

What also got me thinking - Is there enough good prossies for all punters. If everyone booked the highly regarded prossies, we would need to book 6 months in advance unless your a regular with the prossie. Do we need punters to make bad choices seeing the low life skanks that are polluting AW, to free space for punters to see the good ones.

If someone does TOFTT and finds a VFM gem, is it worth sharing? When in the same week 10 other punters have seen the same prossie and you are struggling to get the second booking with your new VFM darling.

Just food for thought. There are so many shit prossies making very good money for being shit at their job. Do we need the bad, so punters who make poor choices will leave space to see the good ones? or make the shit ones extinct and wait in the queue for 6 months and in the mean time wank, use parlours or such things for a quick fix.

This is why I've stopped punting and don't really miss it. Every time I get the urge - which isn't that often - I look at my cash, think of all the bad uns and decide I can spend it more sensibly. The risks are just too great. Having said that, owing to UKP, they are not as bad as they used to be. In my punting hey day, which is now 20 years ago , it really was pot luck.

[Sonny Crockett]

AW is littered with shit pro$$ies.

[NIK]

AW is littered with shit pro$$ies.

And so many of the profiles don't even prossy.
I can waste my time better these days than trawling through that shite. 

[willmo1]

Its dying fast for me. Havent bothered for a while due to such poor quality out there and looking at what Ive saved its ridiculous. Seriously thinking of clearing off to Thailand for 6 months at a time and leaving it all behind. 

[NIK]

Its dying fast for me. Havent bothered for a while due to such poor quality out there and looking at what Ive saved its ridiculous. Seriously thinking of clearing off to Thailand for 6 months at a time and leaving it all behind. 

Yes, let's hope all the useless, lying, scamming rip off cunts starve and have to get a  proper job.   

[jcdmj12]

I think the only ones that are any good are the ones that don't work too much and still enjoy their job. Whether that means just working normal office hours or working longer hours but only for a couple of weeks at a time acheives the same result. Yes I think the good ones with the right attitude that I'm looking for in order to enjoy it, are a minority.

I would prefer those prossies who didn't enjoy their job and give a shit service as a result to just quit and save us punters and themselves all the hassle.

Yep, I have moved to  mainly long outcall meets with part-time prossies.  The difference in attitude and service is phenomenal.  For a start they haven't generally been shagging 5 other people that day so they're well up for it.

[tantric talents]

Part-time prossies.  The difference in attitude and service is phenomenal.  For a start they haven't generally been shagging 5 other people that day so they're well up for it.

Yes that is a very true and valid point.

Maybe we need a thread or a list of recommended part-time girls then.....?

[NIK]

Yes that is a very true and valid point.

Maybe we need a thread or a list of recommended part-time girls then.....?

In my experience these women are often better.

Of course nothing is guaranteed.

[Jimmyredcab]

AW is littered with shit pro$$ies.

Agree totally ----------------- but there are no other reliable sources of pro$$ies.     

Most of the reviews on UKPunting are Adultwork girls ------------- many with totally useless photos, how people on here build up hotlists is a total mystery to me, I can't find one let alone a hotlist.   

[MintRoyale]

Yes that is a very true and valid point.

Maybe we need a thread or a list of recommended part-time girls then.....?

I think I have a few to contribute if a thread is made

[EnglishRebecca121]

some men just dont respect we dont all lay around all day waiting for cock , it clearly states on my page i have a day job , yet had a whole day of timewasters asking for times i dont do or not knowing my rate or services when its clearly listed i just had 1 such guy who didnt know my rates or services so i declinded seeing him and he kept begging so i asked him to stop.

I then recieve a txt saying hes going to tell all ukpunters im a time waster lol

see we dont always get it easy , its not hard to read a short profile!

[James999]

some men just dont respect we dont all lay around all day waiting for cock , it clearly states on my page i have a day job , yet had a whole day of timewasters asking for times i dont do or not knowing my rate or services when its clearly listed i just had 1 such guy who didnt know my rates or services so i declinded seeing him and he kept begging so i asked him to stop.
I then recieve a txt saying hes going to tell all ukpunters im a time waster lol

Just tell them you're in hospital 

[HappyandLucky]

some men just dont respect we dont all lay around all day waiting for cock , it clearly states on my page i have a day job , yet had a whole day of timewasters asking for times i dont do or not knowing my rate or services when its clearly listed i just had 1 such guy who didnt know my rates or services so i declinded seeing him and he kept begging so i asked him to stop.

I then recieve a txt saying hes going to tell all ukpunters im a time waster lol

see we dont always get it easy , its not hard to read a short profile!

My heart goes out to you. No doubt you manage to wipe the tears away with a few 50's. If its such a pain, perhaps time to retire 

[EnglishRebecca121]

no thanks

[vw]

Its not hard to read a short profile!

But its a pain in the ass reading the 179 profiles on AW doing incalls in Bristol that have logged in in the last week.

Lest say you read the feedback and then the UKP reviews

By the time you have called they all look the same and if you were the 3rd or 4th to be called, boy has any punter wasted some time.

Also add that to the 2 days work he had to do to afford an hour punt.

And you get upset because he didn't remember your prices after working solid for 2 days and reading 179 profiles and 30 + ukp reviews to reach yours !

Hard life !   

Most of time I don't even  bother reading until phone is answered, it is a waste of time !

[mikexxlong]

Sometimes I can’t help but think that some  pro$$i£’s are only one step away from those that deliberately stay on benefits and make a life style choice in doing so,
 they find ways how to rinse/cheat  the system and always bitch & moan about not getting this or that ,how difficult or unfair it is

Pro$$i£’s should remember that they have made that choice ,and plenty of people doing “normal”  regular jobs get paid far fucking less for doing a lot more work

If those doing normal jobs had the same work ethic as some of these whores, they would have got sacked.

Strippers/pole dancers have a stronger work ethic & definitely put more effort into the service or performance they offer than any pro$$i£

Too many whores just want punters to throw money at them & worship the fucking ground they walk on, just the typical pro$$i£ attitude of thinking they are better than everybody else for some strange fucking reason