AdultWork or Agency - what are the odds of a cracker, or a disaster?

[Yeboahsleftfoot]

I use agencies most of the time, been lucky enough to have a 80% plus success rate with girls who resembled their photos and delivered good to great service.

My AW experience has been much less successful, from dodgy liars who bated and switched on me, a duo with Naughty Natt and some other girl that never happened because when I got to the flat they weren't working and I was offered a minger, a service which was more vanilla than a Walls ice cream from AmelieM, some girl who had deluxe in her name but worked out a filthy bedsit in the cloisters of doom, to those who never resembled the photos in any way to a great punt which nevertheless felt like a production line hour with a touring duo from Leicester, one of whom would accept a messy facial like a trouper but wouldn't kiss, Kitty & Caprice who fucked me around outside before letting me in, were older than advertised but delivered awesome service and another good duo punt with Nathalie Love who was again older than advertised.

On top of this I've tried and failed to book a number of forum sweethearts who sell out faster than cup final tickets.

I managed to book to see Michelle Independent & Emily's Creme Brûlée for their London tour in February and anticipate it will be outstanding although I'm still not certain I will get my preferred two hours because of the clamour for slots.

Some of the reviews are beyond depressing and some of girls delivering the horror stories that get negative and neutral reviews are beyond acceptable.

I won't put any girl on my hot list unless she has good reviews on here.

My point is punting time and money is important to us all and the risk of a bad punt appears to be much higher with AW compared to agencies, I'm right, aren't I?

[Midlane]

No. I think they are probably about the same, but it is FAR easier these days to do proper research to try and reduce the chances of a poor punt.

[smiths]

I use agencies most of the time, been lucky enough to have a 80% plus success rate with girls who resembled their photos and delivered good to great service.

My AW experience has been much less successful, from dodgy liars who bated and switched on me, a duo with Naughty Natt and some other girl that never happened because when I got to the flat they weren't working and I was offered a minger, a service which was more vanilla than a Walls ice cream from AmelieM, some girl who had deluxe in her name but worked out a filthy bedsit in the cloisters of doom, to those who never resembled the photos in any way to a great punt which nevertheless felt like a production line hour with a touring duo from Leicester, one of whom would accept a messy facial like a trouper but wouldn't kiss, Kitty & Caprice who fucked me around outside before letting me in, were older than advertised but delivered awesome service and another good duo punt with Nathalie Love who was again older than advertised.

On top of this I've tried and failed to book a number of forum sweethearts who sell out faster than cup final tickets.

I managed to book to see Michelle Independent & Emily's Creme Brûlée for their London tour in February and anticipate it will be outstanding although I'm still not certain I will get my preferred two hours because of the clamour for slots.

Some of the reviews are beyond depressing and some of girls delivering the horror stories that get negative and neutral reviews are beyond acceptable.

I won't put any girl on my hot list unless she has good reviews on here.

My point is punting time and money is important to us all and the risk of a bad punt appears to be much higher with AW compared to agencies, I'm right, aren't I?

My past experience of Agencies years ago in London was poor overall, I have had much better punts through some brothels and so called Indies. Also Agencies and their WGs aren't so reviewed in London as A/W WGs and even less by punters I find credible so too much of a gamble for me to take at the rates they often charge compared with some so called Indies.

As to who is more risky overall, Agencies or A/W who knows but what I do know is UKP can help locate good WGs. Can you please name these Agencies who have been so good in your experience as that might well help other punters interested in using Agencies, I see you mention Hot Collection in a couple of your reviews but you say Agencies so I assume there are more than one who you rate.

[Sonny Crockett]

Never tried agencies, but I believe the quality of the girls over AW indies is generally poor.

[Danran1965]

I've found both to be hit and miss, but most poor punts have been due to lack of research

[Yeboahsleftfoot]

My past experience of Agencies years ago in London was poor overall, I have had much better punts through some brothels and so called Indies. Also Agencies and their WGs aren't so reviewed in London as A/W WGs and even less by punters I find credible so too much of a gamble for me to take at the rates they often charge compared with some so called Indies.

As to who is more risky overall, Agencies or A/W who knows but what I do know is UKP can help locate good WGs. Can you please name these Agencies who have been so good in your experience as that might well help other punters interested in using Agencies, I see you mention Hot Collection in a couple of your reviews but you say Agencies so I assume there are more than one who you rate.

smiths - I've used most of the EE agencies: Hot Collection, Top Secret, Abby69, Admiral, Annas Angels etc. roughly the same stable of girls but HC receptionist has always given me a good steer. Also used Hamiltons, Allure and Max's Angels although the current roster is of little interest. Also HoD when it was near the museums.

Used dancing clubs offering reasonably price takeaways in Eastern Europe, enjoyed them a lot, if only we had more relaxed laws in UK.

My personal experience of AW has been worse than agencies, not sure if it is better outside London and I am frustrated at having failed to get appointments with a good few of the top rated girls on here. The best AW girls appear to be independent but hard to tie down to a meeting and the girls who have maids or pimps appear to be more downmarket version of agency girls. Maybe I've been unlucky with AW but my punting time and money is important to me, I want it to be right.

[smiths]

smiths - I've used most of the EE agencies: Hot Collection, Top Secret, Abby69, Admiral, Annas Angels etc. roughly the same stable of girls but HC receptionist has always given me a good steer. Also used Hamiltons, Allure and Max's Angels although the current roster is of little interest. Also HoD when it was near the museums.

Used dancing clubs offering reasonably price takeaways in Eastern Europe, enjoyed them a lot, if only we had more relaxed laws in UK.

My personal experience of AW has been worse than agencies, not sure if it is better outside London and I am frustrated at having failed to get appointments with a good few of the top rated girls on here. The best AW girls appear to be independent but hard to tie down to a meeting and the girls who have maids or pimps appear to be more downmarket version of agency girls. Maybe I've been unlucky with AW but my punting time and money is important to me, I want it to be right.

Thanks for the names, HOD is a brothel/parlour not an Agency though, they might call themselves an Agency but aren't.

[Nagilum]

I prefer AW coupled with reviews. Agencies are supposed to quality assure, but with the level of air brushing it's risky.

[ClarkeOfTheCourse]

I prefer AW coupled with reviews. Agencies are supposed to quality assure, but with the level of air brushing it's risky.

Likewise, I started off with agencies but got pissed off dealing with a middle (wo)man. Often would confirm services on the phone and then when you get there the girl would deny it, or they would be booked back to back so would be late or burned out when they got to their ???th booking of the day. So far the AW experience backed up with research has been better, apart from a couple of bumpy rides to start with.

[Nagilum]

Likewise, I started off with agencies but got pissed off dealing with a middle (wo)man. Often would confirm services on the phone and then when you get there the girl would deny it, or they would be booked back to back so would be late or burned out when they got to their ???th booking of the day. So far the AW experience backed up with research has been better, apart from a couple of bumpy rides to start with.

+1 my experience exactly.

The burn out is one of the most off putting things. Nothing is worse than a tired girl who is red and sore!

[Yeboahsleftfoot]

+1 my experience exactly.

The burn out is one of the most off putting things. Nothing is worse than a tired girl who is red and sore!

That's exactly my fear of the popular AW and agency girls - I always book lunchtime punts, luckily I can get away with that time because I really don't want to be number 5, 6 or 7 in the mid/late evening.

[smiths]

That's exactly my fear of the popular AW and agency girls - I always book lunchtime punts, luckily I can get away with that time because I really don't want to be number 5, 6 or 7 in the mid/late evening.

A punter has no idea how many punters a WG might of punted with before him of course, she could of just finished an over-nighter in the morning for all he would know or had a number of punters in by lunchtime. Best you do know is it increases the chance she has seen less punters.

[OakTree]

I mainly use agencies and sometimes AW. On the whole I've found agencies to be better but as in everything in life there's good and bad.

Some agencies are excellent with top girls and some are shite.

[cockneybstrd]

A punter has no idea how many punters a WG might of punted with before him of course, she could of just finished an over-nighter in the morning for all he would know or had a number of punters in by lunchtime.

This is very true.

I think as punters you just have to put all the negative thoughts to the back of your mind. I used to have the mis conception that seeing part time outcall only escorts through AW was the best way to avoid those kind of shagged out encounters but its not

[smiths]

This is very true.

I think as punters you just have to put all the negative thoughts to the back of your mind. I used to have the mis conception that seeing part time outcall only escorts through AW was the best way to avoid those kind of shagged out encounters but its not

I disregard the unprovable, the fact is even if a WG hasn't fucked a punter that day she may well have a partner she has and that partner could be Sergei or Kevin, its all cock, so I agree its not worth worrying about, if I did it would spoil my fun.

[OakTree]

This is very true.

I think as punters you just have to put all the negative thoughts to the back of your mind. I used to have the mis conception that seeing part time outcall only escorts through AW was the best way to avoid those kind of shagged out encounters but its not

I used to have a similar outlook, I would try and see a girl at 10 or 11 in the morning believing I'd be first that day. That delusion was knocked into touch when left standing around one day because the WG I was seeing was late. Her reason she explained was she had just come from an overnighter.

I realised then this pastime was not for the squeamish.

 The thought now that she could of had five or six cocks up her before me that day now doesn't enter my head.

[Yeboahsleftfoot]

I try to keep other bookings and potential back to backs out of my head but when she suggests a shower early doors or starts tidying up when I'm having a piss after round one or gets dressed when I take my final shower it kind of shatters the illusion, the best girls in my experience kiss me goodbye naked at the door and don't rush me out.

[Midlane]

The best punt I ever had was as a result of an agency promising something the girl didn't do. As soon as I walked in, she said "I don't do that, they put me in the wrong section".

If they'd put her in the right section, I'd wouldn't have gone and I'd have missed out.

[ClarkeOfTheCourse]

It wasn't the A Levels section by any chance was it?

[vw]

That's exactly my fear of the popular AW and agency girls - I always book lunchtime punts, luckily I can get away with that time because I really don't want to be number 5, 6 or 7 in the mid/late evening.

You could also be the one on the way home from an overnight outcall, you never know what they have done before.

[Jimmyredcab]

Do you all realise that an agency can consist of a pimp with a mobile phone and a couple of girls. 

[OakTree]

Do you all realise that an agency can consist of a pimp with a mobile phone and a couple of girls. 

Yes, like I said earlier, some agencies are good and some are shite.

[James999]

Do you all realise that an agency can consist of a pimp with a mobile phone and a couple of girls. 

Exactly, how many "Agency's" are registered proper businesses, VAT registered etc?

Most just consist of a website and a mobile phone number 

[smiths]

Exactly, how many "Agency's" are registered proper businesses, VAT registered etc?

Most just consist of a website and a mobile phone number 

Absolutely, some punters have this image that an Agency is a legit business, it isnt, they are an illegal business and with such illegal businesses always come low lifes.

Their involvement means one thing for punters in London, being likely to have to pay what I view as high prices, basically for simply having a web site and phone, money for old rope with prices often starting at £150 an hour and sometimes more.

[Yeboahsleftfoot]

Not sure anyone is under the illusion that agencies are anything other than what they are, an organisation, big or small, a phone, a website and a selection of prostitutes, my point is simply that they have delivered better service for me and to see what other's experiences had been.

As punters we have a choice, an agency run by a pimp or pimps with phones manned by a receptionist with listed services that may or may not be delivered and photoshopped pictures, with a degree of filtering or pimped and independent girls on Adult Work or Viva Street or wherever and lists of services that may or may not be delivered with false or photoshopped photos.

Either option requires substantial research which is why this forum is so useful.

[Midlane]

Absolutely, some punters have this image that an Agency is a legit business, it isnt, they are an illegal business and with such illegal businesses always come low lifes.

Their involvement means one thing for punters in London, being likely to have to pay what I view as high prices, basically for simply having a web site and phone, money for old rope with prices often starting at £150 an hour and sometimes more.

Exactly this. Before AW and UKP there was probably more need for "agencies" whereas now they can generally be avoided.

It's absolutely not just a "London" issue though.

[Midlane]

It wasn't the A Levels section by any chance was it?

Yes, 'course it was.

[bensonhedges20]

Avoid agwnciesat all costs unless its a plan b

[ArtVandalay]

I've tried AW in the past and come to the conclusion that I haven't got the time or patience for contacting girls individually and dealing with their flaky responses.
I typically use a couple of agencies now who are very good at arranging punts by text.  It may cost a bit more per punt but the reduction in hassle is worth it, especially when trying to sort out a same day booking.
Obviously other peoples experiences may vary from mine, as might their perception of how much hassle is it worth going through to get a booking

[Estoril]

In my experience I've had good and bad experiences with both. 

My first AW experience didn't go well and that put me off and I went back to agency girls.  2 years later thanks to forums and doing a bit more research my 2nd AW punt became one probably my best punts ever.

I don't discount agency girls as there is always someone I see who I really fancy. 

These days Im definitely more cautious and tend to wait to see if I feel a girl has enough positive feedback before taking the plunge.