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Offline roadie

Wondered if anyone has ever booked a girl from the Sugarbabes agency? They advertise as quite a large group of 25 'escorts' (and I use the term loosely) on Adultwork and will only reply to an email enquiry providing these conditions are met;

...

QUESTION I have emailed one of your members but have not received a reply why is this?

1 - None of Our Members will see anyone that has a negative report
2 - None of our members will see anyone that has alisis
3 - No member will response to any email unless it can be clearly seen that YOU have paid to view the members Priate Gallery

...

I've no intention at all of viewing any private gallery until I'm sure girl is genuine and ok with all I want.

Has anyone else given them a try, and if so, how did you get on?

Edited to include their link:  http://groups.adultwork.com/SugarBabesEscorts
« Last Edit: November 09, 2010, 08:21:54 PM by roadie »

Offline Strawberry

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Roadie I've pm'ed you with some info.

Offline roadie

Roadie I've pm'ed you with some info.

Thanks very much. Very interesting stuff :)

Offline Stiltskin

Look like picture sellers to me. All pics have a candice paris. com logo on them.

Apart from the private gallery thing, the profiles seem to have been written by someone with no grasp of geography - Anywhere Thats Within A 50 Mile Radius Of Devon (Incalls & Outcalls)  :rolleyes:


Offline Jacob

http://groups.adultwork.com/2915
SugarBabesEscorts
For The Sexiest & Horniest Escorts In The South West, Wales, Birmingham & London


Most of the profiles have "This Member has chosen not to allow their Ratings and Feedback to be viewed. You should exercise caution when considering the authenticity of their service offerings.". The exceptions are the new ones and Dolly-Delight who is a cammer. Escort feedback is as follows:

Neutral    massivesweed (7) Msg A    17/03/2010 12:24    Seeking Services
     Never got bacj to me..... shame
Neutral    cuthelx (7) Msg A    23/02/2010 13:22    Seeking Services
     Unfortunately she had to cancel, hope to see her soon though, sounds lovely.




This about says it all IMO. Nice little earner camming so why not 'borrow' some content and charge Punters from viewing it. Of course, list as 'Escort' and get many more hits and so PG views.

Even got 'Lolly Badcock'  Adult Performer in there though not as 'Escort' (the one exception), not surprising.

I've seen some of these profiles in my area before but they all evidently move around quite a lot.  :rolleyes:

All sounds almost 'believable' at first glance,  but drill it down and it's a scam IMO. Lot's of mention of telephone numbers though none is listed at all. The stuff about seeing whose viewed PG is nonsense as this option is only available to 'Verified Members'.

Here's to lot in case anyone is searching;

Dolly-Delight              
18-skint-do-anything              
Barbie-Gemma          
Lydia-TS       
holly-james GM             
gemma massey          
danielle-xxx          
Charlie TS          
Holly Kent GM          
xxx-barbie          
carmel of SB          
Amy Foster of SB       
Brookie L GM          
innocent-ha-not       
russian-babe             
SugarBabesEscorts          
Jamie - Lee of SB           
sisters-together          
some ones wife           
Jade of SB       
Isabella PS             
Chantelle of SB       
Sarah Scott of SB    
leggi sammi       
LeeAnne Xfactorwhore


Will note on PG scammer thread. https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=420.75

« Last Edit: November 13, 2010, 01:01:53 PM by Jacob »

Offline Silverado

They are known scammers and are best avoided. The guy who runs it is extremely dodgy and possibly dangerous. I've met girls who have worked for the agency and who have some shocking stories to tell.

Offline SugarBabesEscorts

Hiya

Many thanks for your comments. Fisrtly I would like to say that as our website & Group wording on Adult Work says, we are NOT an agency. Indeed some ladies use some of our properties. But Our website is for ALL Escorts & Clients alike. We do not charge for membership nor do we take any commission from any work obtained via a members profile on our website. Also we do not charge for escorts to have their website OR telephone number on our website.

Although not as big as Adult Work, the idea behind our website is to provide a free place for Escorts (male & female) & clients to converse.

With regard to our profiles on AW, these are genuin. Unfortunatly there are alot of time waisters in this area of the adult industry, so to help avoid this Our Group Members state their rules - of course you dont have to pay for viewing the Prvt Galleries nor do you have to book at escort, just like she doesnt have to see all clients.

You say - you need to be sure what the member does - well this is very well illustrated on their AW & SB profile. Of course if you still are unclear either pay to see her gallery OR of course go to the SB website and call us!!

Our members get hundreds for emails. And 99% of them are requesting information already contained withing the members profile. You guys all know many many guys simply like to talk to the girls and get off, this beig the cash call them at £1.50 a min on one of our TV channels!!!

As for your comments on not displaying feed back - you do have a valid point, we will be updating all members profiles on AD to show feed back. But again of course go to SB website.

If a girl is NOT on our SB website give me a call, I will of course give you all the information you reasonably request. If you then want to make a booking I will take the details and pass them to the appropraite member.

Hope this info is useful to you all

Offline Marmalade

SB is also the acronym of ScotsGirls, who have developed quite an extensive AdultWork profile in Edinburgh among other places in recent months. They may be a totally different operation, but they look similar inasmuch as:

i) same awful ascii art, ii) mostly high prices (£150 for half an hour with 'Dolly Delight'????? - give me a break!!)

I would generally have given SB a wide berth for a number of reasons:

a) the ASCII art they include is offputting, re-cycled and used by many scammers - it adds nothing except the irritating necessity of having to scroll down a lot of it to get to the essential details.

b) the girls all come in a a minimum of £100 for a half hour. This is well above the market rate for Edinburgh. And certainly more than I think it is worth paying - and the mantra that they are the best means nothing - nobody had heard of them until a little while back. Price alone is no guarantee of quality. There are many top girls working in Edinburgh charging less than that.

c) I would have dismissed them as scammers were it not for the fact that one girl I know and have been with on more than one occasion and recommended to others - Daisy Olivia - is now listed as being part of SB. She is genuine and although not that experienced I would have said she was excellent value at her old rates - but no-one is worth paying £100 fro half an hour (say 25mins max once they have 'efficiently' attended to welcome and goodbyes).

d) There are a number of good looking girls on AW listed as SB. In my mind, working for SB does NOTHING for them - but it is their choice and they may feel otherwise. Some people are still drawn in by high prices.

e) Most of them are now only contactable via the agency (unless you happen to have the girl's details from when she was an independent). So no personal contact to judge whether you are suited to each other. To me that's like ordering a ready-meal rather than a la carte.


I notice Sugarbabes have a number of other offputting scam-like characteristics:

"No member will response to any email unless it can be clearly seen that YOU have paid to view the members Priate (qv - pirate?) Gallery"
what happened to only replying to polite emails that suggest the person has taken the trouble to read the profile?

"Unlike others, SUGARBABES ESCORTS website is run and mangaged (qv - mangled?) by a female so all you girls can feel assured that there is no alteria (qv) motives or agenda behind us!"
How reassuring. They can write a big list of rules and regulations but can't use a spellchecker. Of course, a woman never has an ulterior motive.
:rolleyes:
« Last Edit: November 16, 2010, 03:22:11 PM by Marmalade »

Offline Jacks76

If you're a group, am I right in thinking you have access to their emails & bookings? 

Who sets up their profiles, because as far as I'm aware, it's not the 'escorts'.  If you're setting up profiles in order for them to get work, for all we know you're also arranging bookings.

Who takes the priv gallery earnings - the 'escorts' or you?

I can't see how that would make you anything other than an agency.  No business would do all that for free.

Offline Silverado

Sugarbabes is part of CandiceParis owned by James Edwards (aka Jason).

Here's a thread from SAAFE
saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=1275.0

The Bristol news website also has some articles:
http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Neighbours-challenge-adult-film-maker/article-660404-detail/article.html

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Neighbours-stage-demo-outside-porn-producer-s-home/article-656384-detail/article.html

and the BBC as well:
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4114943.stm

and the Sun:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2194198/OAPs-protest-over-porn-set.html

Now whilst  I suspect that his ex-wife has probably a big hand in some of the bad publicity against his agency, I have personally met girls who seriously regretted having anything to do with this man.


Offline SugarBabesEscorts

If you're a group, am I right in thinking you have access to their emails & bookings? 

Who sets up their profiles, because as far as I'm aware, it's not the 'escorts'.  If you're setting up profiles in order for them to get work, for all we know you're also arranging bookings.
Hi - we make money buy guys hitting the sugarbabesescorts website and then clicking on the adult movies link - as this is our parent company's main business - porn
Who takes the priv gallery earnings - the 'escorts' or you?

I can't see how that would make you anything other than an agency.  No business would do all that for free.

Offline SugarBabesEscorts

Well I am sorry you missed the point, which is that the SugarBabes Escorts Website is FREE to all & we taken NO commission or fees - members can contact outher members free by email &/or if they display a contact number by this means.

Yes I have upset a few girls in my 26 years of being in the business. In the main the reason has been that I am a Pro Photographer & Film Producer, "girls" come to me or me to them, for images (photos) I charge for this service at my commercial rate (£1250 plus expenses a day) 99.99% of "girls" want FREE pics. Many many of their clients and none pro togs will do this for "benefits" or simply for free - I dont. So the option is - DONT use me to take your images - pay me OR get them for free and sign a model release - in simple terms this meant I own the images and sell them eg to make my money (my main business activity), this is all cool to start. Then "girls" get out of the business or whatever - so dont want their images used/sold - and get upset when I either still use the images or have sold them. Interestly I virtually never ever get any problems with the use of my images from "models" sadley alot of "girls" want everything for nothing - well they find this doesnt acttually happen with me. My Model Releases are very very easy tom understand - & I get photo ID of the "girls". Its very simple I am just like the "girls" in business to make money UNLIKE clients you do stuff for free for SEX. Of course we do provide a FREE website for escorts & members - yes we do make money from it - as visitors select to PPV our Movies via the link. But no frees are taken from the members.
Thanks


Offline SugarBabesEscorts

ESCORT FEES - Every escorts male or female - have the right to set their own fees. Nobody is obligated to book the escort. Its fortunate for clients that there is so many "girls" doing this - pushing the fees down. I dont have any issue with this, its purely due to the market place.

But just because a girl is (say) £150 a hr - which caters for the majority of clients, there is nothing wrong that girls charge alot more. In fact its VERY sad that guys acttually try and get a "girls" fee down!!! Come on guys think about what the girl is doing. I personally nolonger deal with escorts offering rates lower that 350 a hr. In fact even this is low, just to wake some of you up, that moan about "say" Dolly's fee of £150 for half hr, we send girls to Dubai at a rate of £5k to £8k a day. Girls should stand up and ALL put there rates up to a min of £100 for half a hr - but sadley alot of girls are controlled so have NO powers over their fees. Finally on rates - one wouldnt expect to pay the same money for a Fiesta (car) as say my Aston Martin - sure they are both cars and get you to Tesco's just the same but like escorts some are worth more than others!

Offline Marmalade

Quote from: S--B------
Girls should stand up and ALL put there rates up to a min of £100 for half a hr - but sadley alot of girls are controlled so have NO powers over their fees.

Remind me again how you wandered on here? Help the prossie? Not quite. Help the punter? No way it seems. Free advertising for your ego? Possibly, but you won't find many takers here. From experience, having an obscenely high income blinds a person to how normal people live and also evolves a self-justification for a stupid lifestyle. Your posts on here are also FREE - does UKP get a tin medal from you as well? Or do you have anything of value (as defined by punters) to offer??

No doubt your next post will be to tell us we are stupid fucks for not paying more. Oh excuse me, you just did. A paraphrase then? A few more flash car metaphors?
« Last Edit: November 17, 2010, 01:23:15 PM by Marmalade »

Offline roadie

I emailed one of the Sugarbabes girls ages ago but didn't ever get a reply. Are these girls listed under the Sugarbabes name REAL escorts?
When someone goes to the trouble to email a girl with a genuine booking enquiry, why can't they be bothered to reply?
Given as there's so much choice out there these days, surely a simple reply would be worth their while?

Offline roadie

ESCORT FEES - I personally nolonger deal with escorts offering rates lower that 350 a hr. In fact even this is low, just to wake some of you up, that moan about "say" Dolly's fee of £150 for half hr, we send girls to Dubai at a rate of £5k to £8k a day. Girls should stand up and ALL put there rates up to a min of £100 for half a hr - but sadley alot of girls are controlled so have NO powers over their fees. Finally on rates - one wouldnt expect to pay the same money for a Fiesta (car) as say my Aston Martin - sure they are both cars and get you to Tesco's just the same but like escorts some are worth more than others!

You obviously live on a different planet to the rest of us. It is not us punters who push down the fees charged by the girls, it's the girls themselves in an effort to compete for work.
The number of genuine female escorts has increased exponentially over the past few years both with the influx of Eastern Europeans and also with British girls getting exposed to the relatively easy money to be made from this business. Site's like Adultwork have boosted the choice for us punters in just about every geographical area. If a girl does not make an effort to promote herself or her prices are way too high, she does not survive very long.
Cost does not equate to the quality of service. Never has done and never will do.

I have also encountered this Jason guy, and have been warned by an editor at Paul Raymond that he can become obsessive. I was bombarded with texts, calls and threats. I also met the guy who owned Sugarbabes, but didn't put two and two together, it may take me a while to process this, as both guys were weird. :rolleyes:

 

Offline SugarBabesEscorts

LOL

you say this BUT when I spoke to him (though he not there now) he knew nothing about you. Also I think its fair to say, I dont book you as an escort I booked you as a model.

I cant speak about your work as a hocker, however in relation to my dealing with you, you were very unproffessional.

Of course I would expect yu to check me out, but simply you telling lies isnt reallyfair.

J

Offline SugarBabesEscorts

Ooops sorry - but you and I have NEVER met!! Yes we spoken via telephone. Also just to demonstrate that you are lying, Jason & Me are infact the same person - something you would know if you had met me as you say!!! So tell the true.
LOL

you say this BUT when I spoke to him (though he not there now) he knew nothing about you. Also I think its fair to say, I dont book you as an escort I booked you as a model.

I cant speak about your work as a hocker, however in relation to my dealing with you, you were very unproffessional.

Of course I would expect yu to check me out, but simply you telling lies isnt reallyfair.

J

You asked me to ring a certain person, as you know. I did, and they told me you had a rep for being weird. They may well deny this to you, maybe you should take it on the chin, and stop acting like the weirdo. Look at the thread, I am not the only one who found this.

I also thought that you use your photographer status to progress your personal life, something that most models will find off putting.

PS. You seem to know who I am, and the scenario I am talking about, so something must have jogged your memory .
« Last Edit: November 17, 2010, 04:09:16 PM by britbabesophie »

Offline SugarBabesEscorts

Hi Roadie - Yes I agree with you. Its not the clients fault re prices - as you say there are SO many girl out there now, and Adult Wk is an excellant tool for all. Its down to girls to set thier rates, clearly the client/customer will always look for best value. What I meant re the costs iro expesive girls is that the girls I deal with more now dont do it everyday & will only do it for high rates - some guys want to "see" the girl in the papers / mag or whatever - these girls tend to cost more.
I have also encountered this Jason guy, and have been warned by an editor at Paul Raymond that he can become obsessive. I was bombarded with texts, calls and threats. I also met the guy who owned Sugarbabes, but didn't put two and two together, it may take me a while to process this, as both guys were weird. :rolleyes:

 
I have also encountered this Jason guy, and have been warned by an editor at Paul Raymond that he can become obsessive. I was bombarded with texts, calls and threats. I also met the guy who owned Sugarbabes, but didn't put two and two together, it may take me a while to process this, as both guys were weird. :rolleyes:

 

Offline perfectpunter

Yes its a scam, you have to pay to look at private pics which I've done a number of times but never get a reply. This guy shouldnt be allowed to get away with it. Complaints to AW are ignored and I know at least 2 girls who's pictures he's using without consent. Here's some stuff off web collected over last few years:

From AW:

Hi my names Gemma Johnson and I was married to James Edwards, Owner and Administrater of Sugarbabes Escorts (Agency in Bristol). Find out what this sicko does.
My names Gemma Johnson and I was married to a sick and twisted pervert James Edwards.
He finds young vulnerable girls to embarrass and humiliate.

He's running an agency full of fake profiles and showing pictures without consent.

I met this girl on the internet, she's another girl bought into his sick life.
Julia from Russia.
When I asked her why her profile was on adultwork this was her reply:

EEYYRR NO , I DO NOT DO ESCORTING WORK AND NEVER DONE IT AND NEVER WILL ....
THE WEBSITE THAT U SAW ME ON ,,,, I DIDNT NOT PUT THAT AS AN ADVERT FOR ESCORTING
THERE IS FREAK IN THE INDUCTRY '' CANDICE PARIS'' WHO IS OBSESSED WITH LOTS OF MODELS..... I USE TO WORK FOR THEM (JAMES EDWARDS) WHEN I WAS 18 YEARS OLD 5 YEARS AGO AND STUPIDLY DONE BOY/GIRL VIDEO ,,THATS THE ONLY B/G IV EVER DONE..... HE HAS BEEN CHASING ME ALL THIS YEARS AND HARRASING ME,,,, PROVIDING WRONG INFORMATION ABOUT ME.

Based in Bradley Stoke Bristol, he's covered his house in camera's and has a huge dog gaurding his house...the story gets stranger....I will update soon.

***************

CandiceParis.com, CandiceParisModels.com,CandiceParis.co.uk, CandiceParisxxx.com, CandiceParisMovies.com, CandicParisLive.com
& CandiceParisMedia.com are all part of the CandiceParis.com Ltd group & are all owned by CandiceParis.com Ltd & J Edwards.

® All rights reserved CandiceParis.com Ltd & J Edwards 2005. This site is part of the CandiceParis.com Ltd group

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Sky News:



4:15pm UK, Saturday January 31, 2009
Residents of a quiet cul-de-sac have let their neighbour know they are not happy with his home-based livelihood - making pornography films.

Bristol porn protest

James Edwards (L) walks past his neighbours protesting outside his home

James Edwards, who lives on The Coppice in Bristol, runs a porn movie studio from his premises.

Locals believe living next door to a blue film set is a "disgraceful situation" and have demonstrated outside Mr Edwards' house.

"Everyone is angry, we pay high rates in this area and expect some support from the authorities," resident Zena Robbins said.

"This is a nice area we chose to live in but it is no longer a happy community."

Holding placards bearing slogans including "Pimps out, Values Up" the 12 protesters confronted Edwards, 42.

The residents claim men come and go from the detached property in the affluent cul-de-sac on a half-hourly basis almost every day, often hiding their faces as they leave.

    This is a nice area we chose to live in but it is no longer a happy community.

Zena Robbins, a resident of The Coppice

Another neighbour Fred Hillberg said they wanted action because their lives were "being made a misery".

However, Mr Edwards claims his "health is deteriorating because of the stress" his neighbours are putting him under.

He told the Bristol Evening Post: "The police have fully investigated the complaints from my neighbours and as far as I am aware the police don't have an issue with me."

Two years ago Mr Edwards signed an 'acceptable behaviour contract' - a voluntary agreement made between someone involved in anti-social behaviour and the police - after it was claimed "pornographic activities" were taking place in his front garden.

South Gloucestershire Council said there were no breaches of that six-month agreement and police said there was no evidence of any criminal activity since.

And an Avon and Somerset Police spokesman said: "We believe the occupier is legitimately running a pornographic recording studio."

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Last Updated: Thursday, 23 December 2004, 13:13 GMT
E-mail this to a friend    Printable version
Sex film maker in attack on wife
A sex film producer has been given a suspended prison sentence for pouring a kettle of boiling water over his porn star wife.

James Edwards caused Gemma Johnson unintentional grievous bodily harm after she threatened to leave him in August 2003, Bristol Crown Court heard. Edwards, 38, who has spina bifida, was given a 12 month sentence suspended for two years after admitting the charge.

His estranged wife was earlier cleared of trying to help him commit suicide.

Violent relationship

Gemma Johnson, 21, had been accused of feeding Edwards paracetamol tablets and making him a hanging noose because she wanted his money.

She had denied aiding and abetting the suicide attempt in December 2003 and was found not guilty by a jury at the court on Tuesday.

The couple, who had married in February 2003, split up in August when their relationship became violent.

Mr Edwards, who directed films and appeared with Ms Johnson, told the jury he had wanted to die because he still loved her and wanted to make her happy.

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A friend of mine who is escorting, had photos taken by the person who apparently runs Sugarbabes escorts out of Bristol. She did not agree for the photos to be used or profile to be set up on *********.
Both of these have now happened and has made her out to do all sorts of things that she would never consider or want to do. The photos have been published without her consent, even though ********* say they have got a copy of the model release form (which is false).
It is causing massive upset in her life and just wants the profile to be removed permanently.
********* have given no help whatsoever and Sugarbabes do not answer their emails.
Any advice on this matter would be greatly appreciated, on possible ways to solve it.
P.S. The reason no consent was given as the person taking the photographs got a little rough and harassed my friend with threats etc after the shoot.

************

Just saw this thread after posting a similar reply on another.
From the girls that I have spoken to there seems to be no reasoning with the man. The best advice would be to get her to get a solicitor to right to him a letter asking for her to be removed. He can easily make up a release and sign it himself saying she signed it so it may be a bit tricky. But saying she is offering services when she is not is illegal so she should go along that line. I think most people who saw the site and anyone who knows anything about him will know that most these girls are not working for him anyway. Why would they?

**************

I am so glad someone has highlighted this issue. Let me assure you this man has not given up. He continues to harrass escorts and models to the point of life threatening abuse.

Not only did he threaten my family and advertise my parents house as an incall place, he also breached his restraint order that I had filed against him by posting my pictures up on A****W*** and making money from them.

If any girls are thinking about joining sugarbabes escorts or wanting to become a glamour model this is the last person to go to. He has no ties with the industry at all and makes out he is some big shot who knows lots of people. All he has done is made a bit of money from selling films that he made with his ex girlfriend and money he makes from false advertisment.

He will also try and scare you by showing you a gun, he tells you it is real and that it is for secuirity. When the police searched his house, they found out it was fake, it is in fact an expensive BB Gun so do not fall for this one, it scared the hell out of me.

I think the reason for him being so obbsessive and nasty is that he has a crippling disability called spinabifidor (That is spelt wrong but you get the drift) so he doesn't care how he treats other people.
The amount of drugs he does (or has done) probably does not help his mental frame of mind either.

I cannot stress enough that this man is DANGEROUS. He likes his girls young and innocent looking.
He will try and get you to stay in his bed, if you say no he will basically kick off and get aggressive, if you do stay in his bed...well you can guess for yourself what he wants.
The pictures/films I was shown on his computer were disturbing. Women in nappies, women cutting themselves while sniffing drugs, him being violated from behind. It's scary and I knew I had to leave.

I had in fact contacted the police, like many other girls I have spoken to that have gone through similar circumstances with him and for some reason they ARE interested at whats going on but seem to be relluctant to do anything about it. I will let you decide on why you think they choose to be relluctant....

His harrassment went on for the best part of 5 or 6 months but some girls have been dealing with him for years!! One girl still gets hassle off him 6 years later.

Be carefull girls, all the best. x x

************

Not all of the pictures he took - he actually stole photos from a friend of mine's *********, told them she stole them from him and had her page taken off. He sent them a fake release form and in order to actually get any page back on there (as he kept finding the profile and having it taken down because he had all her photos) she had to email a scanned copy of her passport.

She was lucky it seems, she went on tour in Bristol for him and let him pick her up in London and take her down, take her out while she was there etc.

She is no longer working but her pictures are once again up on a fake page for her but ** don't listen and haven't taken them down.
__________________

The guy has a terrible reputation throughout the west country and beyond:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...=james+edwards

I think that his ex-wife has also caused trouble for him:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4114943.stm

Offline SugarBabesEscorts

Hi ALL

well things get more interesting. Firslty - re Adult Work (AW) - Every single image moving or still have a model release - with valid photo ID. If you or anyone complains to AW they take immediate action and supend the profile - I then sent them a copy of the Model release & ID - so to be blunt you are talking rubbish!!

Its all well & good people saying this and that BUT all they have to do is go to the Police - they dot because they signed releases! Yes they are pissed off because I own the images. But I always offer to sell the images back - but at a commercial rate.

RE Gemma - well I am sure the wife that tried to kill me for money and acheived neither has nothing to make her bias!

Whats wrong with people - why make sure complaints online but dont go to the Police?!! OMG if someone did what I am accused of to me I would go to the Police.

Yes like I say I have upset - pissed off or however youwant to put it over the last 26 yrs - but at the same time - I have manay many models & escorts I do business with. My company produces millions of pounds of materails.

Unlike 99% of people that post or say things about me, I dont hide, I am here you know where I live, you have my telephone number etc.

Its simple dont pose for images - get paid - or get a free copy - and then get annoyed that I use/sell them.

Its like the skint "girl" that fucks a punter so she can eat then blame him because he used her sexually. Be accountable for your own actions!!! I am.

May I suggest perfectpunter that you dont post hearsay - also you will find that AW doesnt acttually provide copies of any correspondance they receive. I suggest your copy of Gemma's letter is fake.

Gemma's is ONLY interested in getting on with her life and forgetting that she did porn, something she does regret. So bring her up infact is only doing her a disservice!!!

J

Offline SugarBabesEscorts

FAKE MODEL RELEASES - hi ok lets run with this - I agree a person could make a fake model release - but a model release is only part of what one needs to sell images - you need Photo ID - so PLEASE explain how I got a copy of the passport &/or Driver Lic. Come on you can come up with much more believable lies cant you???!!!
Hi ALL

well things get more interesting. Firslty - re Adult Work (AW) - Every single image moving or still have a model release - with valid photo ID. If you or anyone complains to AW they take immediate action and supend the profile - I then sent them a copy of the Model release & ID - so to be blunt you are talking rubbish!!

Its all well & good people saying this and that BUT all they have to do is go to the Police - they dot because they signed releases! Yes they are pissed off because I own the images. But I always offer to sell the images back - but at a commercial rate.

RE Gemma - well I am sure the wife that tried to kill me for money and acheived neither has nothing to make her bias!

Whats wrong with people - why make sure complaints online but dont go to the Police?!! OMG if someone did what I am accused of to me I would go to the Police.

Yes like I say I have upset - pissed off or however youwant to put it over the last 26 yrs - but at the same time - I have manay many models & escorts I do business with. My company produces millions of pounds of materails.

Unlike 99% of people that post or say things about me, I dont hide, I am here you know where I live, you have my telephone number etc.

Its simple dont pose for images - get paid - or get a free copy - and then get annoyed that I use/sell them.

Its like the skint "girl" that fucks a punter so she can eat then blame him because he used her sexually. Be accountable for your own actions!!! I am.

May I suggest perfectpunter that you dont post hearsay - also you will find that AW doesnt acttually provide copies of any correspondance they receive. I suggest your copy of Gemma's letter is fake.

Gemma's is ONLY interested in getting on with her life and forgetting that she did porn, something she does regret. So bring her up infact is only doing her a disservice!!!

J





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