Ellie_12_Rose

[Pace10]

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This was my first meeting with Ellie. A 3 hour incall at her place, mid January.

Comms:

Emailed Ellie some weeks in advance and agreed on a date and time. A few emails and a phone call close to the meet and got her address by text. All quick and efficient.

Location:

Discreet building close to Marble Arch station. Easy to find.

The Girl/Punt:

Ellie met me by the door, dressed as requested. Big smile and straight into DFK. Perfect start to a meeting. I got into the shower while Ellie got me a drink.

I'm a pretty vanilla guy and the next 3 hours were a lot of the same. DFK, OWO, 69, CIM and protected sex in cowgirl and reverse cowgirl. All delivered at a very high level.

Between rounds I like to have a proper chat to the girls I'm meeting and Ellie is clearly bright and well read. This is basically a necessity for meetings of this durations for me, as I need some recovery time till I'm good to go.

Conclusion:

Great first meeting. Brilliant attitude and personality. Bright girl. One of the best at DFK and OWO. Really, all things in bed were great. Can't fault her and will be back.

[MeesterNeek]

Thanks for the review.

Got my first meeting with Ellie coming up next week and I too am all vanilla - so your comments are particularly relevant for me.

I was looking forward anyway but this review has raised the temperature even more 

[Steely Dan]

Proving that all reviews are helpful to punters, even if she has 40.

[GolfNut]

Great review of a top girl thanks.

Quite unusual to book 3 hours for a first meet, but Ellie is a naturally good choice for a longer meet.

Good to see you had a good time with one of our fave WGs. 

[GBush]

I'm booked in again next week.

I'll review again if we try anything new or if anything changes.

[Mr Shack]

Watch your self with her, she will refuse to see you for dumb reasons,like "we don't click" lady when you take dick for cash who cares if we click, whatever the fuck that means and then block you as she know she is being wrong.

[brolin_76]

Watch your self with her, she will refuse to see you for dumb reasons,like "we don't click" lady when you take dick for cash who cares if we click, whatever the fuck that means and then block you as she know she is being wrong.

what is your point exactly? you saw her?

[johnnyboy61]

Watch your self with her, she will refuse to see you for dumb reasons,like "we don't click" lady when you take dick for cash who cares if we click, whatever the fuck that means and then block you as she know she is being wrong.

Of course any WG is entitled to see who she wants and most independents have their own screening process for their own safety which can also unfortunately occasionally screen out genuine punters too. I don't know the reason why you set her alarm bells ringing ("we don't click" might just be her standard response when asked why she is refusing a booking), but obviously there are many UKP members who didn't have the same experience as you. Bad luck, but in this situation it's best to just move on.

[GolfNut]

Watch your self with her, she will refuse to see you for dumb reasons,like "we don't click" lady when you take dick for cash who cares if we click, whatever the fuck that means and then block you as she know she is being wrong.

Pretty sure if she's blocked you there would be a reason.

In my experience and I've seen her a couple of times, Ellie is very accommodating and open minded, so I can only assume you approached her in a way that she didn't like, or you requested services she doesn't provide.

Same applies to most if not all of the popular girls. They can afford to pick and choose who they see, or not.

[Mr Shack]

My point is that she is not worth all the fluffie worshiping her like they do, and I have  see her 3 times but now she is being silly, just cuz  she feels that we did not click on the third time dispute me not being in the greatest state of mind she now won't see me, do the other times not count, one not so good time and its a problem, childish.

[GolfNut]

My point is that she is not worth all the fluffie worshiping her like they do, and I have  see her 3 times but now she is being silly, just cuz  she feels that we did not click on the third time dispute me not being in the greatest state of mind she now won't see me, do the other times not count, one not so good time and its a problem, childish.

Sorry to hear that. Maybe you freaked her out??

In that case I'd just move on. Plenty of good girls down there.

[vw]

My point is that she is not worth all the fluffie worshiping her like they do, and I have  see her 3 times but now she is being silly, just cuz  she feels that we did not click on the third time dispute me not being in the greatest state of mind she now won't see me, do the other times not count, one not so good time and its a problem, childish.

So was it all good before then in your eyes Mr Shack?

So did you fluffy worship her before the break up ?

Did she cancel a booking or refuse to accept the next one ?

[PLeisure]

She's not my type so no personal agenda here - what do you mean by this comment, Mr Shack:

dispute me not being in the greatest state of mind she now won't see me

Did you turn up in an inebriated state, or what. 

[Mr Shack]

Sorry to hear that. Maybe you freaked her out??

In that case I'd just move on. Plenty of good girls down there.

I have no idea she will not tell me, (which IF it was the case I would like to know so I can avoid making the same mistake with another WG) She just keeps coming up with lame excuses like "I have a bf now, I am busy most weekends etc, despite the fact that plenty of others can see her and so what if she has a bf (how is that my problem?) as I have pointed to her lots of WGs have bf and husbands and the majority of men she sees are married.

or the other one is "we did not click" when her profile states on the overnight bit quote:  "would prefer to establish whether we have some "connection", therefore implying that she does see people that she does not "click" with.

And yes I should move on, but why should I? when I don't believe I have done anything wrong and that she is the one with the problem and also she is one of the best in london, however I'm starting to not believe that. 

So was it all good before then in your eyes Mr Shack?

So did you fluffy worship her before the break up ?

Did she cancel a booking or refuse to accept the next one ?

 
Yes I do believe it was all good before.

Maybe a bit but when I have been doing this for less then a year and she was absolutely lovely, how could I not?

For the first one that I tried after the third this is what I got in reply "Im not around that weekend sorry" fair enough it happens, the next one that I tired to book I got "I'm not really know, perhaps nearer the time, I think you should feel better before making any bookings" what does that even mean? so I asked what she meant and got the following "We don't click with, I would prefer to take a little break" ok fair enough don't really get why but whatever, (by the way this is at the start of December) I message her yesterday it would be now, asking if it would be possible to see her in April and its the same story "I don't really know" not helpful at all really.

She's not my type so no personal agenda here - what do you mean by this comment, Mr Shack:
 
Did you turn up in an inebriated state, or what. 

Depression, yeah sure I should not of turned up but the thing is I was not thinking properly and I'm sure others have seen WGs while depressed.
         

[vw]

Depression, yeah sure I should not of turned up but the thing is I was not thinking properly and I'm sure others have seen WGs while depressed.

Sorry to hear about your illness.

To be fair to her she was not seeing you as a patient so has no obligation to treat you, i see your possibly upset as it was a treatment in your mind seeing her.

You say you shouldn't have turned up at the time and accept blame for that, well actions also have consequences and her not seeing you is a valid consequence of your actions even if you couldn't help it.

Would move on if I was you, you have said your piece, you confessed you were fluffy I don't think this will win her back.

Maybe talk to one of your professionals about your feelings.

Best of luck moving on !

[GolfNut]

Depression, yeah sure I should not of turned up but the thing is I was not thinking properly and I'm sure others have seen WGs while depressed.       

Very sorry to hear you are not well.

In that case perhaps she is doing it for your own good. She may feel that you have gotten too attached and perhaps dependent on her, and she's worried that she is not able to help you deal with your feelings.

I'm sure she wouldn't do it just to hurt you or make you feel bad.

It's probably for the best really.

I would even go so far as saying perhaps you shouldn't be seeing any WGs in your current state of mind, until your condition has improved. I'm no expert, but I also think you should seek professional advice.

Good Luck

[GolfNut]

Hope things work out for you.

[vw]

I would even go so far as saying perhaps you shouldn't be seeing any WGs in your current state of mind, until your condition has improved. I'm no expert, but I also think you should seek professional advice.

I would possible gear towards short notice bookings for Mr Shack as this comes in waves and phases and you cannot predict when it will be a bad day.

[Rose_128]

You are right, Mr.Shack.

 I don't have a boyfriend/husband and I am pleased that my personal work circumstances are plastered all over here but I don't appreciate your vindictive behaviour.

There is a reason for not seeing you, my safety around a punter comes first and if I feel things didn't go well I will not go ahead with any future meet.

Why dwell on seeing me? Plenty of other girls will meet you.

Get well soon. Ellie

[The_Don]

she now won't see me

Its up to the W/G (managed or not) how they wish to conduct bookings and chose who they see.

Just like its up to punters, where to spend (punting cash) and who, they wish to punt.

[lewishamguy]

I have no idea she will not tell me, (which IF it was the case I would like to know so I can avoid making the same mistake with another WG) She just keeps coming up with lame excuses like "I have a bf now, I am busy most weekends etc, despite the fact that plenty of others can see her and so what if she has a bf (how is that my problem?) as I have pointed to her lots of WGs have bf and husbands and the majority of men she sees are married.
......
       

I assume you've developed EAS. 

[GBush]

Mr Shack

you sound like an immature twat with a bad case of EAS.  A WG is not "care in the community" or Social Services, they have no obligation to see you.  If any decent punter pushes boundaries they expect to be told to piss off by the WG.  You have gone way over the boundary in this situation.  This WG is not your fucking girlfriend or your best friend, get over it.

Do yourself a favour, back off and go see someone else, there are thousands of WGs on AW.

[Punting Valley]

Exactly, she doesn't owe you Mr Shack an explanation for why she won't see you. She uses the busy excuses to reject your request to meet so to not hurt your feeling, you are lucky to even get responses at all.

[Tonyleung]

Thanks for your review OP.

[Tonyleung]

Mr Shack you need to learn to take a hint. When a girl says  no it means NO.

[kazred]

I know some dissaprove of hijacking threads without putting up a full review but must say I had the pleasure of meeting Ellie for a 3 hour gig and she is superb. Warrants the good reviews 

[PLeisure]

GBush has it:

Mr Shack

you sound like an immature twat with a bad case of EAS.  A WG is not "care in the community" or Social Services, they have no obligation to see you.  If any decent punter pushes boundaries they expect to be told to piss off by the WG.  You have gone way over the boundary in this situation.  This WG is not your fucking girlfriend or your best friend, get over it.

Do yourself a favour, back off and go see someone else, there are thousands of WGs on AW.

Mr Shack, you say:

And yes I should move on, but why should I? when I don't believe I have done anything wrong and that she is the one with the problem and also she is one of the best in london, however I'm starting to not believe that.

You need to take a step back (or twenty five) and review what you've written there.
You understand that the smart thing to do is to move on. But stubbornly refuse to. That, it's not your fault - despite showing up in a depressed state (which may have concerned her - did you consider that?) - and, in fact, it's her that has the problem. You then recognise that she's one of the best in London - but are beginning to doubt that. Presumably based on the fact she won't see you anymore.
In just two sentences, you have presented two pairs of contradictions.

Take an extended break and re-assess.

(shades of Marty meltdown, anyone....... Christ Almighty)

[vw]

Take an extended break and re-assess.

(shades of Marty meltdown, anyone....... Christ Almighty)

Would not shock me one bit to discover Mr Shack is a former banned member

[PLeisure]

Would not shock me one bit to discover Mr Shack is a former banned member

Was wondering.....   

[kartrider]

   Mr Shack, In fair say, you got emotionally attached to her ( as said you saw her twice + times before breakup) and could've pushed boundaries. She has got all the right to say NO.
   That's kinda immature thingy as Mr GBush commented. My personal experience, I tried to contact her on UKE for a booking, for which she said I can't book unless there are some reviews on my profile on AW. That's fair enough as she has her standards up and you've to deal with it. To add, 43+ reviews about her are not moody or just some random posts..

  Get your balls up mate(bluntly, GROW UP    ). As she said, you can see other WGs rather than bothering her again  . And one more thing "..... get well soon ..."

[AnthG]

Mr Shack, you say: 
You need to take a step back (or twenty five) and review what you've written there.
You understand that the smart thing to do is to move on. But stubbornly refuse to. That, it's not your fault - despite showing up in a depressed state (which may have concerned her - did you consider that?) - and, in fact, it's her that has the problem.

(shades of Marty meltdown, anyone....... Christ Almighty)

I read Mr Shacks post, and it just seemed he was wanting to know why she suddenly come up with excuses.

It read as if he was lacking in confidence and thus wanting to know what he did wrong so it would not be repeated.

[PLeisure]

I read Mr Shacks post, and it just seemed he was wanting to know why she suddenly come up with excuses.

It read as if he was lacking in confidence and thus wanting to know what he did wrong so it would not be repeated.

Yes, there is that - and it's understandable that he should like to know what went wrong so it isn't done again.
However, reading through all the other posts he's made, it is also clear that he harbours resentment and a stubborn determination to continue booking her. This is not healthy for either party involved and, whilst some of the responses may appear harsh, they are essentially coming from a genuine concern that he steps back to prevent himself exacerbating an already failed situation.

She won't see him - she's articulated that on this thread as additional confirmation. There's nothing to salvage here. 

[vw]

I read Mr Shacks post, and it just seemed he was wanting to know why she suddenly come up with excuses.

It read as if he was lacking in confidence and thus wanting to know what he did wrong so it would not be repeated.

near not really, come to release personal info about this prossy, thankfully deleted from his ramblings now by nik.  She probably shouldn't be telling people these things anyway in all fairness, people do gossip.

[hendrix]

She doesn't need a reason. If a prossie sees you 100 times and says "No" on the 101st, that's up to her. You only need justification if you're suffering from EAS in which case, grow the fuck up.

[Rose_128]

near not really, come to release personal info about this prossy, thankfully deleted from his ramblings now by nik.  She probably shouldn't be telling people these things anyway in all fairness, people do gossip.

Fair enough, mistakes happen but most punters are pretty decent I think. There is no way Mr. Shack would not know what exactly made me uncomfortable but I simply did not feel safe. I am rather reluctant to list out what exactly went wrong unless put on the spot and there is some code of discretion too, especially given his state of mind. About a year ago I asked him to go get help, quit punting for an extended period of time, do something else as hobby, restore confidence and try again in time if it comes to that.

So when contacted again I decided to give it a go but it still was not right and in addition to this I did not feel totally safe. I think I am entitled  to have a good time too during a booking and won't put myself through anything that is scary just for a little bit of cash.

I honestly don't think it is advisable to see other girls right now because things have to be under control first, responsiblity taken and behavioural patterns changed.

I only wish him well and there is no hard feeling.

[vw]

Fair enough, mistakes happen but most punters are pretty decent I think. There is no way Mr. Shack would not know what exactly made me uncomfortable but I simply did not feel safe. I am rather reluctant to list out what exactly went wrong unless put on the spot and there is some code of discretion too, especially given his state of mind. About a year ago I asked him to go get help, quit punting for an extended period of time, do something else as hobby, restore confidence and try again in time if it comes to that.

So when contacted again I decided to give it a go but it still was not right and in addition to this I did not feel totally safe. I think I am entitled  to have a good time too during a booking and won't put myself through anything that is scary just for a little bit of cash.

I honestly don't think it is advisable to see other girls right now because things have to be under control first, responsiblity taken and behavioural patterns changed.

I only wish him well and there is no hard feeling.

You are right most punters are decent, just one rogue idiot can spoil the party.

think you got it right banning him, as did admin.

[Rose_128]

Thanks VW.

[GBush]

Fuck me that was quick!!!!!

[brolin_76]

My point is that she is not worth all the fluffie worshiping her like they do, and I have  see her 3 times but now she is being silly, just cuz  she feels that we did not click on the third time dispute me not being in the greatest state of mind she now won't see me, do the other times not count, one not so good time and its a problem, childish.

now you gone. dont punt anymore. wank at home watching porn.

[AnthG]

near not really, come to release personal info about this prossy, thankfully deleted from his ramblings now by nik.  She probably shouldn't be telling people these things anyway in all fairness, people do gossip.

Ok, Just to say, I didn't see his post of releasing info about her. I just seen the post after Nik removing it all, of him wanting to know why she blocked him.

She doesn't need a reason. If a prossie sees you 100 times and says "No" on the 101st, that's up to her. You only need justification if you're suffering from EAS in which case, grow the fuck up.

But think of it this way, if you seen a WG for 100 times, and then said to her prior to the 101, nope not seeing you no more. She would be wanting to know what was up and doing all she could to find out. It gets posted on the main board many times this sort of thing.

[hendrix]

Ok, Just to say, I didn't see his post of releasing info about her. I just seen the post after Nik removing it all, of him wanting to know why she blocked him.

But think of it this way, if you seen a WG for 100 times, and then said to her prior to the 101, nope not seeing you no more. She would be wanting to know what was up and doing all she could to find out. It gets posted on the main board many times this sort of thing.

Would she? And so what? And anyway,  why would you want to replicate the behaviour of some bored prossie with a dusty phone?  My experience of good prossies is that they couldn't care less why you've moved on. They're fully busy with other punters.. As they should be if they're any good!

[AnthG]

Would she? And so what? And anyway,  why would you want to replicate the behaviour of some bored prossie with a dusty phone?  My experience of good prossies is that they couldn't care less why you've moved on. They're fully busy with other punters.. As they should be if they're any good!

That has not been my experience. I have had prostitutes, literally, I am not kidding here, phone up the local hospitals to see if I have been admitted, and phone up my civvie place of work, all because I took two weeks away from the forum.

[hendrix]

That has not been my experience. I have had prostitutes, literally, I am not kidding here, phone up the local hospitals to see if I have been admitted, and phone up my civvie place of work, all because I took two weeks away from the forum.

I'd respectfully suggest that you're far too close to prostitutes if they feel able to do that with what should be just another cock/wallet/punter.

[AnthG]

I'd respectfully suggest that you're far too close to prostitutes if they feel able to do that with what should be just another cock/punter.

Exactly. In hindsight looking back this has pissed me off that she did all of this. As my understanding of that situation at the time was this girl must really like me to have done all of this. As no way would a WG do this towards a punter unless she really liked them and thought of them as an actual real life friend, as this is fucking insane doing this over a source of income. So this girl must really see me as a friend to be that worried.

But all it was, was just her source of income went down for two weeks. And hence why I am quite pissed off by this looking back.

I am not trying to take over Pace10s review post. I am just saying sometimes things can come across as awry on both sides.

[vw]

That has not been my experience. I have had prostitutes, literally, I am not kidding here, phone up the local hospitals to see if I have been admitted, and phone up my civvie place of work, all because I took two weeks away from the forum.

think that's the exception and not the rule really.  Not willing to test though by telling any prossie my place of work.

[kartrider]

Fair enough, mistakes happen but most punters are pretty decent I think. There is no way Mr. Shack would not know what exactly made me uncomfortable but I simply did not feel safe. I am rather reluctant to list out what exactly went wrong unless put on the spot and there is some code of discretion too, especially given his state of mind. About a year ago I asked him to go get help, quit punting for an extended period of time, do something else as hobby, restore confidence and try again in time if it comes to that.

So when contacted again I decided to give it a go but it still was not right and in addition to this I did not feel totally safe. I think I am entitled  to have a good time too during a booking and won't put myself through anything that is scary just for a little bit of cash.

I honestly don't think it is advisable to see other girls right now because things have to be under control first, responsiblity taken and behavioural patterns changed.

I only wish him well and there is no hard feeling.

 
    I think even though Mr Shack distracted this thread in between, from his posts, I couldn't see any details about Ellie he posted or something of that sort. He wanted to know the reason for getting blocked away by her (which clearly is not geeting over by rejection). But following VW's post, The post by Ellie is a bit revealing one. Though hesitant, she gave out details about the client(not identity details but its more like, "you say this to me.." "I'll tell everyone why I said this to you" ). Yes, he was a immature, got banned himself childishly, but one one moment in me thinks that if someone post details or any bloody hint of any encounter, it just goes against my privacy. If I'm wrong in forums, the moderator bans me, but not the client to come out and give out something (whether right or wrong) happened in between.

   In any case, I just think, Ellie shouldn't have put that in thread of what happened and why she rejected. She has all the right and entitled for her opinion, but not with posting reasons.

  If this goes, then for every neutral to negative review, you come up with loads of threads discussing what went wrong and why he didn't get the service from me kind of posts.. I don't remember the link, but there's a page on Punting wiki about this reviews and feedback.

   Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's always 2 sides of a coin and best interests of UKP is Punter first.

[GBush]

Exactly. In hindsight looking back this has pissed me off that she did all of this. As my understanding of that situation at the time was this girl must really like me to have done all of this. As no way would a WG do this towards a punter unless she really liked them and thought of them as an actual real life friend, as this is fucking insane doing this over a source of income. So this girl must really see me as a friend to be that worried.

But all it was, was just her source of income went down for two weeks. And hence why I am quite pissed off by this looking back.

I am not trying to take over Pace10s review post. I am just saying sometimes things can come across as awry on both sides.

I remember who you are. You're the guy who is always posting on the other site about being dragged into WGs domestic problems.  You claim you're a mug and you won't let it happen again. 

[vw]

    I think even though Mr Shack distracted this thread in between, from his posts, I couldn't see any details about Ellie he posted or something of that sort. He wanted to know the reason for getting blocked away by her (which clearly is not geeting over by rejection). But following VW's post, The post by Ellie is a bit revealing one. Though hesitant, she gave out details about the client(not identity details but its more like, "you say this to me.." "I'll tell everyone why I said this to you" ). Yes, he was a immature, got banned himself childishly, but one one moment in me thinks that if someone post details or any bloody hint of any encounter, it just goes against my privacy. If I'm wrong in forums, the moderator bans me, but not the client to come out and give out something (whether right or wrong) happened in between.

   In any case, I just think, Ellie shouldn't have put that in thread of what happened and why she rejected. She has all the right and entitled for her opinion, but not with posting reasons.

  If this goes, then for every neutral to negative review, you come up with loads of threads discussing what went wrong and why he didn't get the service from me kind of posts.. I don't remember the link, but there's a page on Punting wiki about this reviews and feedback.

   Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's always 2 sides of a coin and best interests of UKP is Punter first.

well moderator deleted private info, then admin banned.

anyway not good for punters having loons on the site.

[kartrider]

Exactly. In hindsight looking back this has pissed me off that she did all of this. As my understanding of that situation at the time was this girl must really like me to have done all of this. As no way would a WG do this towards a punter unless she really liked them and thought of them as an actual real life friend, as this is fucking insane doing this over a source of income. So this girl must really see me as a friend to be that worried.

But all it was, was just her source of income went down for two weeks.  And hence why I am quite pissed off by this looking back.

I am not trying to take over Pace10s review post. (Yes, as it seems ) I am just saying sometimes things can come across as awry on both sides.

    Mate, it's really a bit confusing and I see a new Mr Shack coming up.. Punting is different from dating/friendship.

[kartrider]

anyway not good for punters having loons on the site.

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