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Author Topic: Lists of Hungarian British and Polish  (Read 11747 times)

Offline Steely Dan

In case not looked lately, I have added some information to the 3 list of London escorts pages on the Wiki mentioned.  Jason did the hard work creating these - credit where it is due - I just edited. While not perfect, for many I have added price, reviews and rating.  And I moved the deadwood to the bottom. Since these are sortable by column, you can more easily find escorts that cost e.g. £100 or less.  It is no AW, but may have a use on your search.

As I sorted the data, I did notice the following.
- Yes british girls cost more.  But there are more than a few good ones that cost £150 or less.
- Porn stars are looney.  Madlin seems about the only one priced sensibly.
- The 'board darlings' do float to the top.  But there are several I was not aware of (Polish Mia and Maggie21, Hungarian Stacy Nice Summer) who also have broad appeal.  Clearly those who reviewed them knew - maybe it was just me who missed these.
- Maybe it is just those on this list, but these particular Hungarians are simply awful for profile swapping. They make the other 2 groups seem sane.  Why take over a profile from a girl with bad ratings?
- There are many amusing ones.  The £70 elite courtesan! Sure darling.
- Two writing review tips came from this review.  If you link another escort in your review, it will show up as her review too.  Better to mention her, then reply to your own thread with the link. A few seem to have negatives, but if you read carefully, the negative is for a different girl.
- And saying 'price, services and looks as her profile' is no help when looking at a review from 6 month ago.  Better to mention the actual price, the actual service and something about her looks -young slim blonde with big fake tits - helps confirm profile swaps.  Better still, embed a picture.

Hope you find this helpful.

As a reminder this is a wiki.  So like wikipedia, anyone can edit.  So consider editing it yourself if I have it wrong.  If you really want changes, PM me rather than replying to this thread.  I may do it next weekend if I am bored - but no promises :).


LL

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Nice one Steely Dan :thumbsup:
I might have a couple of things to add to the Polish one as I've seen at least one Pole who's not on the list. Plus just glancing at the dead links. I know at least one of those girls has a new profile which I can dig the link out for. Anyway good effort so far.

Offline Malvolio

Thanks for putting the work in Steely Dan - it's a useful resource for all fans of EE girls.  I have no idea how to fix this, but the sorting by review isn't coming out properly - someone who has 4 positive reviews is ahead of someone who has 30 positive reviews.  Perhaps someone with more Wiki knowledge than me could take a look at the table and revise it.

Offline Steely Dan

Ok, I have updated the South American list, too.  All but one on the list is Brazilian.  My observation for this group is that although the original list prepared by Jason is only a year old, more than half are dead links.  This is worse than the other groups.  My guess would be that they are not EU passport holders, so leave sooner or something.

Also a large number have no UKP reviews.  Come on, boys, go fuck a Brazilian!  But be careful - of the ones with reviews, many are multiple negative.  My guess is they look so hot, that guys still go see them despite the reviews.

(oh and I fixed the rating sort on the other pages.  Should work now.)

Offline collector

A list of the (good) romanian girls should be helpful too. I might create one when I'll have more time.
Edit: just saw already exist, must be new, never saw it before
External Link/Members Only
« Last Edit: January 20, 2016, 01:37:31 pm by collector »

Offline Steely Dan

Ok, had a bit of time this weekend.  Edited the Romanian page (removed dead links and added a few girls).  Some decent girls there it seems (can't personally confirm or deny).  I also created a Central European page, which is, at this point, Czech's.  I'll add any girls mentioned in new reviews.  We can add any stray Slovakians, Bulgarians or even Germans to this list. I am personally not interested in adding any old girl from AW(we can all search AW), but if there is a top rated girl who should be on one of these lists, I am happy to add them. London girls only. Both of these pages (and the other nationalities) can be found on the wiki.
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One question.  Where do I put DEE? is she British or what? Do I have to go fuck her to find out?

My next week's plan is to do Baltics & Russians.

As a reminder, any of us can edit these pages.  You don't have to get me to edit, you can just join and do it. If you want to and don't know wiki code, it is dead easy.  Look on wikipedia if you really can't figure it out.  If you really don't want to edit, PM me.  But no promises - I might be busy /shrug.

Offline collector

Dee is a mix of Portuguese/Irish/Moroccan. I'd put her as British as I think she spent most part of her life in UK or Ireland.

jimbobwood

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Ok, had a bit of time this weekend.  Edited the Romanian page (removed dead links and added a few girls).  Some decent girls there it seems (can't personally confirm or deny).  I also created a Central European page, which is, at this point, Czech's.  I'll add any girls mentioned in new reviews.  We can add any stray Slovakians, Bulgarians or even Germans to this list. I am personally not interested in adding any old girl from AW(we can all search AW), but if there is a top rated girl who should be on one of these lists, I am happy to add them. London girls only. Both of these pages (and the other nationalities) can be found on the wiki.
External Link/Members Only

One question.  Where do I put DEE? is she British or what? Do I have to go fuck her to find out?

My next week's plan is to do Baltics & Russians.

As a reminder, any of us can edit these pages.  You don't have to get me to edit, you can just join and do it. If you want to and don't know wiki code, it is dead easy.  Look on wikipedia if you really can't figure it out.  If you really don't want to edit, PM me.  But no promises - I might be busy /shrug.

Well Done Steely Dan, good work!! :thumbsup:

Offline Steely Dan

Dee is a mix of Portuguese/Irish/Moroccan.
Ah, a normal London girl of 2016, got it thanks!  (But you ruined my plan A)

Offline collector

Ah, a normal London girl of 2016, got it thanks!  (But you ruined my plan A)
You don't want to fuck her anymore?  :D
You could see her only to ask in which category she wants to be. And of course enjoy a top shag.

Candyman

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Great work. It's useful as sorting by rating on AW is flawed due to all the +ve feedback from fluffs and whiteknights

TheNewSeeker

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Following some work done on the East Midland's table, and discussion with SD, the London British Girls list has had all rows updated with the automatic counters for reviews, as recently implemented by Admin (https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=88901.msg1096961#msg1096961). This means all counts will stay up to date. Thanks to admin for these 'functions'  :thumbsup:

This global table updating was done automatically using javascript (software code); It is possible that some errors have occurred. This is particularly the case if a review count is not based on a service provider id (spid) held here, on UKP. Note we have also solved the problem of summing reviews for multiple AW profiles. All this leads to rather unweildy and scary looking text in the table editing text area!

Other changes have occurred:

1. The AW link has been incorporated into the SPs name. This is done by writing the link and name in square brackets like this:
[https://www.adultwork.com/272xxxx Woofie]  This makes the table more compact.

2. The rows have been converted to the mediawiki 'row per cell' format. This is cleaner to look at when editing (only table editors will notice this).

3. The comment row is now the last column.

4. A link has been added to this thread to facilitate discussion

Note that a wiki allows edits to be reversed including the massive edit i've just done. So if I've stepped on toes, fucked up, or whatever, accept my apologies, and reverse the edit.

Future edits
As mentioned these functions look unweildy, thought the table edit view itself look tidier (IMO). Editors will need to know how to add new rows and what to do if, for example, a girls gets a new profile and begins to accumulate reviews under this. We need a help page on PW for table editors. Anyone fancy making a start? It would be best if this were a national oriented page since there are tables in many regions.

Accuracy
Admin has told me that the counts reported by the functions are currently scheduled to update once a week, so do not expect your latest review to be 'counted' in the PW tables immediately.

Other Tables
All other tables can be done. However I'll await a nudge from users of this list as I'm a rare London punter and these are not my tables. Or does someone else want to run the script to update these tables?

Future Development
A beta script is ready which will check the AW profile link for each girl in the table to see if is still working. It can also pull in data such as location, age, hourly rates ethnicity etc, and can in theory insert these in to new table columns (or the general comments column). Note that this is all  legit client side scripting, not hacking!  If you want to become a table updater using scripts, and are a tad savvy (I do not have the time to hold hands too tightly, but essentially, you know what cutting and pasting is, can edit text on PW, can save a file and load it in your browser etc), message here or PM me.


TNS
« Last Edit: March 28, 2016, 09:30:05 am by TheNewSeeker »

Offline PLeisure

Superb work, many thanks, TNS  :hi:

Offline collector

Great work. There is a minor problem I'd like to mention with the prossies with multiple profiles (e.g. one or more dead links plus one active).

{{#expr:{{UKP:SP_6073_PositiveCount}} + {{UKP:SP_3521_PositiveCount}}}} pos {{#expr:{{UKP:SP_6073_NeutralCount}} + {{UKP:SP_3521_NeutralCount}}}} neu {{#expr:{{UKP:SP_6073_NegativeCount}} + {{UKP:SP_3521_NegativeCount}}}} neg

This code is correct to add reviews linked to both profiles but it will count a review twice if in one review the OP will put both links (and it happens quite often).
That's why in my recent modifies I've put this kind of code instead:

{{#expr:{{UKP:SP_519_PositiveCount}}+2}} Pos {{#expr:{{UKP:SP_519_NeutralCount}}+0}} Neu {{#expr:{{UKP:SP_519_NegativeCount}}+1}} Neg

+2, +0 and +1 are the old reviews counted from the dead links, excluding the double reviews which already appear in the active profile or appear in more than one of the dead profiles, This makes the number always accurate and no SP will appear to have more reviews rather than the number she actually has.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2016, 10:20:40 am by collector »

TheNewSeeker

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Cheers chaps

That's a good point collector.  Where a review is assigned to more than one profile belonging to the same sp is a case, I must admit, I only came across the other day on the EM table. I did not realise UKP assigned the review to both profiles when reviewers included a link to the old  profile, but thinking about it, it's clear that admin has to have it work this way in order to pick up duo+ reviews automatically.

I hope not too many profiles are affected in this way.

I propose that instead of hard wiring the counts for dead links you do this, e.g. :

{{#expr:{{UKP:SP_519_PositiveCount}} + {UKP:SP_620_PositiveCount}} - 1}}}

This way, I can modify the script pick up the correction factor, -1, when running any future scripts based on the review spids. This is much easier to script than trying to be sure which is the currently active counter, if you see what I mean. No need to insert a correction factor if not needed.

What do you think?

Unfortunately this means we still need to be vigilent to keep correction factors upto date! I'm thinking admin may have the answer to this?



Offline Steely Dan


What do you think?

Unfortunately this means we still need to be vigilent to keep correction factors upto date! I'm thinking admin may have the answer to this?
Big round of applause to TNS!

I think that a little bit of manual intervention will be needed on the dozen or so escorts with multiple profiles.  And if we end up off by a little bit, it is not the end of the world - the objective is to point punters to girls they may not have thought of.  I would hope that any punter will actually read some of the reviews (count them if he gives a shit) and look at the AW profile before booking.  So my conclusion is that either solution works - two right answers.

Also it is experienced posters trying to be helpful that put up both AW profiles.  With Admin's agreement, we should suggest that they put up the UKP page that lists the all the reviews (the UKP profile), rather than the old AW number.  Or they put the old AW number in a reply to their own post, (as suggested for adding links to roommates, and other escorts that you want to mention in a review but are not being reviewed). With help from members it wont go wrong much.  For new members, we are lucky if they put in the AW link at all :) .

In terms of the London pages, I suggest you run your script on the other ones as you did for British escorts.  Once it is done once, it wont be hard to keep it live.

I'll plan to start a 'how to' page for editing these tables.  There is already a general  'how to edit page' linked on the front page. We really do want more good punting wiki editors. It is very easy.  If you don't want to mess with tables, there are other pages that are needed (like turning some of the good threads into pages).

Milo117

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Anyone know what happened to Stacy nice summer, seems every time I am looking to punt she is gone or on holding then comes back within a day or two of me punting.

Offline Malvolio

I don't think anything's happened to her - I see the 'available today' sign every so often on her profile. 

TheNewSeeker

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Cheers SD,

. . . Or they put the old AW number in a reply to their own post, (as suggested for adding links to roommates, and other escorts that you want to mention in a review but are not being reviewed).

I like this idea best. I think also, we should report posts which include more than 1 profile for the same girl, much as we report them to admin when none is included.

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In terms of the London pages, I suggest you run your script on the other ones as you did for British escorts.
I'll get on to this as soon as I can. Back to work tomorrow :(

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I'll plan to start a 'how to' page for editing these tables. 
Awesome

Offline Cunning Punt

Great work.

Just an update. I see Alycia4you, a Romanian WG, is mentioned as a dead profile. Just in case anyone's interested.
Ex of Edmonton Green and former profile External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only
11 Reviews (9 positive, 1 neu, 1 neg)

Now operating under new profile called Alyciayou at £50hh, £100ph but working from Southampton
External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only
2 Reviews, both positive

Offline collector

I hope not too many profiles are affected in this way.
Unfortunately almost every SP with multiple link reviews has this kind of counting problem. Not the end of the world as SD said, it's just pure statistics. The most important thing is read the reviews, not just the rating.

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I propose that instead of hard wiring the counts for dead links you do this, e.g. :

{{#expr:{{UKP:SP_519_PositiveCount}} + {UKP:SP_620_PositiveCount}} - 1}}}

This way, I can modify the script pick up the correction factor, -1, when running any future scripts based on the review spids. This is much easier to script than trying to be sure which is the currently active counter, if you see what I mean. No need to insert a correction factor if not needed.

What do you think?

Unfortunately this means we still need to be vigilent to keep correction factors upto date! I'm thinking admin may have the answer to this?
Yep certainly your is a good solution. Both have pros and cons.

{{#expr:{{UKP:SP_519_PositiveCount}} + {UKP:SP_620_PositiveCount}} - 1}}}
this one is quicker at first because you just need to count the double reviews (-1 is your good example and in general they are 1, 2 or 3, more is rare. On the contrary, as you said, needs vigilation for the next double reviews and someone needs to change the -1 in -2, etc.

{{#expr:{{UKP:SP_519_PositiveCount}}+2}} Pos
this one needs more time counting the right number at first, but after it is done, doesn't need updates anymore until that profile is still active. A reviewer could put as many previous profiles links as he likes and nothing is gonna happen. Because only one review in the active profile will be added. This because a dead profile doesn't actually need an automatic code if it is inactive.

After said that, both the solution are fine for me. We just need to find an agreement that all of us will put the codes in the same way.

Offline collector

Also it is experienced posters trying to be helpful that put up both AW profiles.  With Admin's agreement, we should suggest that they put up the UKP page that lists the all the reviews (the UKP profile), rather than the old AW number.  Or they put the old AW number in a reply to their own post, (as suggested for adding links to roommates, and other escorts that you want to mention in a review but are not being reviewed). With help from members it wont go wrong much.
This is an even better solution for the future but the problem is how to let all the members know they should put the UKP reviews list link or other AW links in the second post.
I'll start anyway doing that because I was one who used to put multiple links in my reviews. I won't do it anymore for my next reviews.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2016, 01:15:59 am by collector »

TheNewSeeker

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List of Hungarian girls has had parsing function inserted by the script as discussed with British here: girls https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=82895.msg1105751#msg1105751

Error with Red Ramona. Why is she red?  :scare:

Also done the bad girls.

Whilst writing this I see SD has sorted out red Ramona  :D

« Last Edit: March 29, 2016, 04:06:38 pm by TheNewSeeker »

Milo117

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I don't think anything's happened to her - I see the 'available today' sign every so often on her profile.

Her profile is completely gone

Offline Steely Dan

I have created a short 'how to' page for the tables.  I tucked it on the bottom of an existing page. 

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No need to be gentle with corrections - be bold and improve as you wish.  Would be great if someone who has not edited tables before looks at this too - it is hard to remember what was confusing at first.

TheNewSeeker

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Offline collector

AMAZING work. It summaries everything it's been discussed. I'd propose to open a new thread in UKP general discussion board and put in evidence this:
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Review Summary pages on UKP[edit]
Review summary pages on UK Punting are considered among the post helpful features. They link reviews of AdultWork escorts in any thread which mentions their number. These pages are used to get the count of reviews for the escort tables. There are three problems that can lead to inaccuracy.

Escorts get new AW IDs and thus new UKP Service provider ID. To link these old reviews it takes manual intervention.
Punters do not put the profile number in the review. This is solved by reporting the post and Admin or Nik add the number.
Punters put multiple numbers in the review. This could be a roommate, a girl they thought of seeing but didn't, or the old code number. All these cases can lead to wrong counting. A time it is right to include multiple numbers is where both girls were part of the punt, i.e. a MFF.
While not (yet) agreed by Admin, the current proposal is to ask members to only put in one number, and to put any other numbers in a reply to their own review.


SD, I think you should have the honour to open it as creator of this new guide  and because you are the most active member in the wiki lately  :hi: hats off

Offline PLeisure

Thanks to all above for refining the lists  :drinks:
I've added some minor updates on a couple of WGs.

Question: What if a WG is reviewed and she doesn't have an AW profile? For example, Victoria Hot Vixen has three Pos reviews linked to her AW before it was taken over by another girl. She subsequently had two Neg reviews - obviously without the AW profile link, so the auto-counter doesn't factor those Negs in. I've noted this in the Comments box.

Offline collector

Thanks to all above for refining the lists  :drinks:
I've added some minor updates on a couple of WGs.

Question: What if a WG is reviewed and she doesn't have an AW profile? For example, Victoria Hot Vixen has three Pos reviews linked to her AW before it was taken over by another girl. She subsequently had two Neg reviews - obviously without the AW profile link, so the auto-counter doesn't factor those Negs in. I've noted this in the Comments box.
I can add them with a seperate link. Have you got the links? I can't find them.
Edit: found them, I'm updating. She's still working? Otherwise it's better move her in the dead links section.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2016, 09:55:28 pm by collector »

Offline PLeisure

I can add them with a seperate link. Have you got the links? I can't find them.
Edit: found them, I'm updating. She's still working? Otherwise it's better move her in the dead links section.
cheers, Mr C  :hi:
Think she's inactive again. Not sure if it will be temporary; she has a history of this.
She disappeared - soon after those two Neg reviews - and then re-appeared on UKE a few weeks later under the new name. Lasted barely a week then returned to Manchester again. That was almost a month ago.
Probably makes sense to move her "Victoria Hot Vixen" profile to the Dead Links section as that ended a while ago (ex-pimp sold it on, I understand)

Offline collector

cheers, Mr C  :hi:
Think she's inactive again. Not sure if it will be temporary; she has a history of this.
She disappeared - soon after those two Neg reviews - and then re-appeared on UKE a few weeks later under the new name. Lasted barely a week then returned to Manchester again. That was almost a month ago.
Probably makes sense to move her "Victoria Hot Vixen" profile to the Dead Links section as that ended a while ago (ex-pimp sold it on, I understand)
Moved in dead links. It can be easily moved back to active link in case she creates a new profile.
Oh yeah and thanks for the new Lindsey link  :thumbsup:

Offline ir34

London British

Desperately have my eyes on this one.

External Link/Members Only
 
Thought SD might be interested.



Offline Steely Dan

London British

Desperately have my eyes on this one.

External Link/Members Only
 
Thought SD might be interested.
Happy if you TOFTT.  And I hope you have a great fuck.

Personnaly. size 8 small tits is more my thing.  And for the Wiki pages, while there is no rule, I can't be bothered to add an escort with less than 3 positives reviews.