Eye opener for fluffies and white Knights

[Mansell]

If it floats, fucks or flies - rent it by the hour. 

My mate in the hire business quotes this all the time and it's so true  I've known him 20 years, but why oh why didn't I take his advice earlier  I am now though.

[AnthG]

I was just wanting to also say to this. These statements often get banded around by WGs and they particularly annoy the hell out of me.

However it is never love no matter how much the man insists it is as they don't know the real me.  They know the fantasy they are paying for. Whilst a lot of me comes over in a booking they still don't know me. To be in love with someone you have to have seen them at their worst and still feel the same way but clients only see us at our best.

I say this as do you think when a girl starts civvie dating with a guy. She blurts out in the first, second, third or pretty much at all until way-way down the line she has something like six past convictions for assault on previous partners. Or her previous relationships broke down as she refused to ever do anything around the house and spent all the guys money without his knowledge. Or she likes to drink a bit too much. Or binge eats and throws up afterwards

You do not give people the bad about yourself until the full connection is there between the two of you. Thus when too much is emotionally invested so the person overlooks the bad.  As if you did it before that time, any guy runs a mile.

So to say because a punter does not know your faults its any different is just rubbish as its no different to civvie situations.

"I think I'm particularly irritated because this person has never, ever, asked anything about me. He doesn't know my name, my marital status, my background, my real personality, anything about my hobbies, or anything about my daily life. Yet he loves me, apparently, on the basis of the fantasy that I (am paid to) project.

With this one, why not start acting like your real self and projecting your real personality a bit more during bookings and see if the guy runs off or remains booking.

The thing that annoys me is you often get the feeling with these responses from WGs if they were sitting in a bar and a guy came over and said, you look nice can I buy you a drink.

You get the feeling some WGs would respond with "fuck off, why do that, you do not know the real me, you do not know my faults and my real personality or my hobbies or my dislikes, so no I won't have that fucking drink with you as you don't even know me".

[jcdmj12]

NOTE TO FLUFFIES


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[jcdmj12]

If it floats, fucks or flies - rent it by the hour. 

Felix Dennis.  Great man.

[GreyDave]

  Just been chatting to a client who has a few flats let..an agecy does it to keep all at arms lenght the subject arouse How does a 20 year old girl with mimimum english rent a £1500 a month exc comunity charge and utllty bills and Food earn the £40k a year to fund it eh?... she aint gonna be working a shift at Costa`s or PretaMinger is she...Yes they might hate what the job involves sometimes but some on here at 150 an hour would only need a few a week to live better than some high paid Con - sultants. When youve tasted the ease of quick high cash its more addictive than pussey itself and its nowonder girls retire then come back its a marketing ploy...get it now whilst I am here get it quick I`ll be gone....I am back for a few days...Bollacks are you Some times there is no subsitute for a good O`fashioned a bit past it British Whore to bring you back to the reality. a 50ish FF er who tours told me a few tales about the cash she earnt when younger and what she was doing I was open mouthed she could see my surprise at the fact she was being honest about the job..."Bet you wish you come back as a Woman in the next life" was her goodbye comment to me....then I thought Raddy...

[Thepacifist]

Second thing from Jessica201

She is just a vile cunt. Plane and simple. And I think this is the only time I have ever called a WG a cunt on the forum, so this speaks volumes.

+1, reading that bile made me very angry and not because it touches a nerve per se but because she thinks she's better than us 

[Placebo88]

Besides the drunken man-hating lesbian one ( shame on whoever got EAS for her ! ) the posters in the SAAFE thread make perfect sense and are being fair and reasonable.Most of them do say that it is only a small percentage of punters who behave in this misguided and selfish way.Prostitution is business , you pay for your time and that is it.The wierdo EAS types are deluded and are rightly condemned by both WGs and the majority of punters as they cause of load of hassle and upset for escorts, themselves and to some extent other punters.The majority of punters have no problem understanding the nature of the situation and where the boundaries lie , it doesn't take that much brain power to grasp it.The moaning threads on SAAFE are not usually about all punters , they are about the idiots who cannot play by the rules and cause a load of unnecessary complications.If you want a girlfriend booking a WG is the last way to go about getting one , have some pride.

[jcdmj12]

However it is never love no matter how much the man insists it is as they don't know the real me.  They know the fantasy they are paying for. Whilst a lot of me comes over in a booking they still don't know me.  To be in love with someone you have to have seen them at their worst and still feel the same way but clients only see us at our best.
I do feel some of the replies on saafe are cruel and very ungrateful but I noticed the worst replies came from the younger girls who in real life wouldn't think about dating older men or men who were not classically attractive.  I think me being older I understand life a bit more so know that infatuation can make you feel/believe you stand a chance if someone is being so nice to you.
No point putting it ok UKE as it will all be bollocks in reply as it will upset their purses if they told the truth.

Spot on.  I do get limerence from time to time with good WGs (where you can't stop thinking about them for a while after the meet, find yourself having idle fantasies about them etc), but it's a purely narcissistic thing.  You're not attracted to them a person, you are attracted to the fantasy they project.   

For me (so far) the cure has been to see them a couple more times and get chatting to them. Invariably they'll relax and the real person will show through the facade, which is never anything like as attractive.  Generally the point about which they start complaining about their problems to me is about right, because I get plenty of that at home.   

At that point I either just move on, or relax a bit and enjoy it for what it is.  The infatuation feeling is like a drug; fun for a bit, but if you give in to it, you'll end up in a mess.

[bokkaboy]

You've only got to look at some of the stalkerish reviews by that deluded cunt Sylvester to know that some punters have huge issues.

[smiths]

Yup we are just ATM's coming through their doors.
Trouble is sex is a bonding process, thats why we guys are vulnerable if you keep seeing the same prossie , every chance you could fall for her. I will never see anyone more than twice now...

You can exclude me from your we nowadays, there is zero chance of me getting EAS with a WG, if I locate a good regular I punt with them a lot until I get bored which always happens sooner or later.

[smiths]

This is a link to help certain folk realise prossies  can be very good actresses
External Link/Members Only

These deluded tools clearly haven't a real life so put their energies into wooing or worse prostitutes and obviously the WGs clean up financially. A White Knight fluffy is a cancer in punting in my view, they do normal punters who do live in the real world no favours. Fawning arselicking pricks.

Personally I expect WGs to be greedy grasping cunts so bear that in mind when punting, I don't need SAAFE to tell me some are like that and some are good actresses, but this link MIGHT just help a newbie punter who is naïve.

[Marmalade]

If fliuffies read it they might not clog up UKP reviews with slavering bullshit. All credit to the grasping bitches, it was well-written. They're doing their job, acting like prossies. If they do it well one can only hope that punters act like punters instead of fawning dishrags.

[Sonny Crockett]

Are you really surprised, there are many threads and reviews here that indicate problems ahead for some.

I punt for my own self gratification. I punt because I love sex and can't stop thinking about it. I punt so that I can walk away feeling I had my day's fill of it. It's never about a relationship or whatever. Punting is more like my own yearning to feel like a complete man.

[vw]

I punt for my own self gratification. I punt because I love sex and can't stop thinking about it. I punt so that I can walk away feeling I had my day's fill of it. It's never about a relationship or whatever. Punting is more like my own yearning to feel like a complete man.

So why the hell have you quit ?  Have you joined Opus Dei ?

[Sonny Crockett]

So why the hell have you quit ?  Have you joined Opus Dei ?

Because of the horrendous lies I've endured from one escort when I was wanting to arrange my 2hr punt consisting of roleplay and PSE. It was the punt I wanted as I was looking to try something different (namely roleplay). Nothing to do with EAS or anything. I just wanted to do something new to make sex more interesting to me.

When the lady denied me this, that took the sting out me. I put a lot of thought into what I wanted and I prepared myself for that meet, in order to give myself the best chance of giving a great performance.

I just became a shell when I went to my last two punts, I just didn't enjoy sex.

So I gave up as I didn't want to go back to the bad old days of fuck and go punts and waste my money on crap, and I felt that whenever I want to try something different and make an effort to prepare myself for it, it is just a bloody waste of time, as the lady just fucks you about with crap anyway.

[vw]

I just became a shell when I went to my last two punts, I just didn't enjoy sex.

Sounds a good time to take an indeterminate break then if getting back on the horse didn't work.  It may all come back in time.   

[Sonny Crockett]

Sounds a good time to take an indeterminate break then if getting back on the horse didn't work.  It may all come back in time.   

That's true. Recently I had an urge to punt. I even booked a lady a couple of weeks ago. But I cancelled it as deep down I didn't feel I was ready to go ahead. Though I still think about sex anyway, and it's now only probably a matter of time before I make a return. Once a punter, always a punter.

[Nagilum]

OUTSTANDING!

I love this Jessica girl... wait D'oh!

[Nagilum]

On a more serious note, this till wont deter the fluffies.  They will go on assuming it does not apply to them and they can break the mould.

[Johnny124]

This is a link to help certain folk realise prossies  can be very good actresses
External Link/Members Only

that had me laughing prossies giving it large not our problem sucking dick is the only skill some women (most EE) have 

[Johnny124]

What a mean, nasty, nest of fucking dusty phone vipers 

This bit made me laugh out loud
As if the lying Pro$$ie cunter would have told the poor deluded fucker anyway! 

It would be interesting to see what responses they would give to the same question on their UKE touting site! 

Needed a laugh and your reply made me lol, cheers mate 

[AnthG]

On a more serious note, this till wont deter the fluffies.  They will go on assuming it does not apply to them and they can break the mould.

Can I just say, people keep saying its all the fluffy's at fault. Like they are some lecherous people getting confused on what is just a regular booking and pushing their boundaries onto the innocent and unassuming WG which she only realises what is going on when its too late.

When I can assure in a good few (maybe not all) but a good few of these cases where the guy gets fluffyness and a bit of EAS towards a girl. That girl in question will have done all she bloody well could to cloud issues, confuse matters and went way above and beyond the whole you arrive, you pay me, we fuck, you leave situation.

Am talking stuff like messaging the punter to say they are having a real life personal family matter and are in tears and want the punter to come round and console them for no money and stuff just because they are so upset and have nobody to turn to but you as you are her good and only friend right now.

Or giving them their real names, personal private non WG numbers to contact, extreme personal info about themselves that shows them at their worst  - Dani said "Whilst a lot of me comes over in a booking they still don't know me.  To be in love with someone you have to have seen them at their worst and still feel the same way but clients only see us at our best. ".

Well some girls do it, and show them at their worst to the punters, and tell the punters extreme personal and embarrassing life information that you would not tell a living soul except real close friends. But these WGs tell those punters.

And this just causes complete and utter confusion as the punters have no idea what the hell is going on as it's moved well beyond the arrive, shag, leave situation. So the sad, lonely punter starts thinking "this girl really likes me here" that's the only logical explanation for all of this.

When really it's just a case of the WG trying her best to maximize profit on susceptible punters.

[Sonny Crockett]

Personally I think all this prossie life story stuff is a load of bollocks from them. Just one of their tactics of fucking the punter about.

[Nagilum]

Can I just say, people keep saying its all the fluffy's at fault. Like they are some lecherous people getting confused on what is just a regular booking and pushing their boundaries onto the innocent and unassuming WG which she only realises what is going on when its too late.

When I can assure in a good few (maybe not all) but a good few of these cases where the guy gets fluffyness and a bit of EAS towards a girl. That girl in question will have done all she bloody well could to cloud issues, confuse matters and went way above and beyond the whole you arrive, you pay me, we fuck, you leave situation.

Am talking stuff like messaging the punter to say they are having a real life personal family matter and are in tears and want the punter to come round and console them for no money and stuff just because they are so upset and have nobody to turn to but you as you are her good and only friend right now.

Or giving them their real names, personal private non WG numbers to contact, extreme personal info about themselves that shows them at their worst  - Dani said "Whilst a lot of me comes over in a booking they still don't know me.  To be in love with someone you have to have seen them at their worst and still feel the same way but clients only see us at our best. ".

Well some girls do it, and show them at their worst to the punters, and tell the punters extreme personal and embarrassing life information that you would not tell a living soul except real close friends. But these WGs tell those punters.

And this just causes complete and utter confusion as the punters have no idea what the hell is going on as it's moved well beyond the arrive, shag, leave situation. So the sad, lonely punter starts thinking "this girl really likes me here" that's the only logical explanation for all of this.

When really it's just a case of the WG trying her best to maximize profit on susceptible punters.

Can't deny any of that happens too, you are right and being human, we will naturally feel confusion because sex is a powerful tool for emotional attachment (It's not just for women).  Now add in some attention and the punter will become enamoured or start to feel something, be it friendship or feelings of love.  If the punter cannot see it for what it is (Business) and that he is being manipulated then stuff like this will occur.

I have always said it - Remember who you are seeing, remember what they are providing and remember if you feel this way then the girl happens to be exceptionally good at the GFE, which you paid for. 

I am in agreement with you and for both parties there is blame, I am not excusing it.  I guess some are more vulnerable than others.

[Marmalade]

On a more serious note, this still wont deter the fluffies.  They will go on assuming it does not apply to them and they can break the mould.

Unfortunately true. The first words of the alcoholic intending to give up, is "I'm an alcoholic." Only a small percentage of fluffies seem even to get that far. Those one or two that do are 'career fluffies' and only slightly more bearable because they admit it openly.

There's two aspects. Firstly UKP is indeed here to help punters: and part of being hard on fluffies is for their own sake to get them to wake up. Punting is more enjoyable as well as a lot safer (physically, emotionally, financially) if you can be realistic about it. If you can't, you might wake up one day from a happy litle stupor and wonder where your life went.

The other aspect is when we see dozens of fluffie reviews (and fluffies do indeed like to review, often at great length in technicolour - I guess it is reassuring for their egos and penises). Fluffie reviews are misleading. Not only in their words: but a casual reader will glance through reviews quite quickly and assume that Fanny x is better than Fanny y as Fanny x has ten good reviews and Fany y only has one. They don't stop to read the laborious paragraphs of shit about how "the lady opened the door" or the Disneyworld experience of several different positions. The may even miss the small print, on the rare occasions it's included, about how a size 6 girl "had a couple of extra pounds" or the sparkly 19yr old was "possibly in her thirties": they just see the word "Positive" put there largely "in fairness to the lady" who probably "did her best" (even though she was shite). Reviews like that are taking the piss IMO, taking the piss out of a unique forum with a strong punter-orientated ethos.

[vw]

Personally I think all this prossie life story stuff is a load of bollocks from them. Just one of their tactics of fucking the punter about.

Personally we are grown men and choose whether to be deceived or not.  No different from gamblers moaning about losing really everyone walks in with eyes wide open just with gambling people enter casinos with a maximum amount to lose, where as fluffies go in to the game and lose dignity, a priceless thing once you have lost it.

[Nagilum]

Personally we are grown men and choose whether to be deceived or not.  No different from gamblers moaning about losing really everyone walks in with eyes wide open just with gambling people enter casinos with a maximum amount to lose, where as fluffies go in to the game and lose dignity, a priceless thing once you have lost it.

+1

[Marmalade]

Can I just say, people keep saying its all the fluffy's at fault. ...
When really it's just a case of the WG trying her best to maximize profit on susceptible punters.

Anth, I know you are talking from the school of hard knocks and I respect that. But I do think there are shades of grey. As several people have said, it's a business arrangement. Not every prossie (in fact very few) is bright enough to enact a callous game plan (though some manage it with a little help from a coniving cunt of a brothel owner). Some of the comments were also good business practice from the prossie's viewpoint. (I don't like the way Tescos usurps community shopping but I can't fault their busines plan so easily.)

I think our concern here is for punters, just as saafe's is for prossies. It is reasonable to assume that a prossie may be a conniving thieving short-changing little clock-watcher but only inasmuch as it makes the punter take realistic precautions. If there is proof, then she goes on a blacklist. Otherwise they are simply black market business chancers and not all of them will be out to scam the punter. Some will want to establish a client base and of those, some may do it ethically by providing good service and good attitude, and others may try to entrap the punter by laying it on thick. I see no reason to condemn all prostitutes out of hand: merely be prepared for the worst but hope (intelligently) for the best. The "best" meaning good service and good attitude NOT extending 'GFE' to the period outside of the punt.

[Marmalade]

Personally we are grown men and choose whether to be deceived or not.  No different from gamblers moaning about losing really everyone walks in with eyes wide open just with gambling people enter casinos with a maximum amount to lose, where as fluffies go in to the game and lose dignity, a priceless thing once you have lost it.

Spot on. Not every casino is "rigged" -- but they make no bones about the fact that winning odds are stacked against the customer!

[Sticky]

Maybe I'm completely missing the point of all this, but from what I can tell this is about a small fraction of girls complaining about a small fraction of men and various people on both sides spewing vitriol.

I'm not keen on fluffies or WKs, but they're not the worst out there and not going to be deterred by reading stuff like that on SAAFE.

Similarly, those WGs are either going to put on a sterling acting performance or not care and give a shit service which might show up on here and so aren't really ones that matter.

[Nagilum]

Maybe I'm completely missing the point of all this, but from what I can tell this is about a small fraction of girls complaining about a small fraction of men and various people on both sides spewing vitriol.

I'm not keen on fluffies or WKs, but they're not the worst out there and not going to be deterred by reading stuff like that on SAAFE.

Girls complaining about their clients being attached is more common than you think.  Most popular girls I have been with has told me some stories that involve stalking.  I never ask who theya re referring to as I believe discretion is paramount and there are two sides to every story.

Certainly - fluffies are not the worst, its the stalkers and violent ones that were probably fluffy to start and turned violent when shunned.

[Nagilum]

Anth, I know you are talking from the school of hard knocks and I respect that. But I do think there are shades of grey. As several people have said, it's a business arrangement. Not every prossie (in fact very few) is bright enough to enact a callous game plan (though some manage it with a little help from a coniving cunt of a brothel owner). Some of the comments were also good business practice from the prossie's viewpoint. (I don't like the way Tescos usurps community shopping but I can't fault their busines plan so easily.)

I think our concern here is for punters, just as saafe's is for prossies. It is reasonable to assume that a prossie may be a conniving thieving short-changing little clock-watcher but only inasmuch as it makes the punter take realistic precautions. If there is proof, then she goes on a blacklist. Otherwise they are simply black market business chancers and not all of them will be out to scam the punter. Some will want to establish a client base and of those, some may do it ethically by providing good service and good attitude, and others may try to entrap the punter by laying it on thick. I see no reason to condemn all prostitutes out of hand: merely be prepared for the worst but hope (intelligently) for the best. The "best" meaning good service and good attitude NOT extending 'GFE' to the period outside of the punt.

Agreed +1

[jcdmj12]

Anth, I know you are talking from the school of hard knocks and I respect that. But I do think there are shades of grey. As several people have said, it's a business arrangement. Not every prossie (in fact very few) is bright enough to enact a callous game plan (though some manage it with a little help from a coniving cunt of a brothel owner). Some of the comments were also good business practice from the prossie's viewpoint. (I don't like the way Tescos usurps community shopping but I can't fault their busines plan so easily.)

I think our concern here is for punters, just as saafe's is for prossies. It is reasonable to assume that a prossie may be a conniving thieving short-changing little clock-watcher but only inasmuch as it makes the punter take realistic precautions. If there is proof, then she goes on a blacklist. Otherwise they are simply black market business chancers and not all of them will be out to scam the punter. Some will want to establish a client base and of those, some may do it ethically by providing good service and good attitude, and others may try to entrap the punter by laying it on thick. I see no reason to condemn all prostitutes out of hand: merely be prepared for the worst but hope (intelligently) for the best. The "best" meaning good service and good attitude NOT extending 'GFE' to the period outside of the punt.

Spot on. I'm generally nice to people who pay me, because it is profitable to be so. It doesn't mean I secretly hate them. Honestly, most of the time I don't have feelings one way or the other.  If they started calling me up and asking them to go to the cinema with them every Friday night for free because they liked my company so much, I'd be a bit fucking weirded out to say the least*.

I think it's OK to feel some EAS for a prossie as long as you keep it in perspective. I quite enjoy the headfuck and emotional rollercoaster for a few days when it happens, personally.  The problems come when you start thinking that your feelings are anything other than that... your feelings.   It's just something your brain does from time to time. It doesn't mean you're her special little snowflake.

The WG's responsibility towards you begins and ends with delivering the services paid for, in a pleasant and competent fashion.  Beyond that, she owes you nuttin', and if you expect more than that, at best you're asking to be blacklisted by her, and at worst, exploited for all the cash in your bank.

*assuming they weren't a hot, slutty woman in which case disregard this

[texasjapan]

I think it's important that we realise that's its not just prostitutes that are out for money but general woman are gold diggers (yes yes part of is biological,  wealth = security and a prosperous environment for their offspring, its programmed In their DNA)

Case In point
External Link/Members Only
 

 we also have to accept that we Do plenty for money our selves,  depending how much we are willing to compromise, gain fiscally or mainly what opportunity arises.

My main point is, and why I started this thread, 

Money doesn't talk,  it SHOUTS IT SCREAMS and after a certain figure,  it says FUCK! ,  in all the languages under the sun!

[Pen2015]

Anth, I know you are talking from the school of hard knocks and I respect that. But I do think there are shades of grey. As several people have said, it's a business arrangement. Not every prossie (in fact very few) is bright enough to enact a callous game plan (though some manage it with a little help from a coniving cunt of a brothel owner). Some of the comments were also good business practice from the prossie's viewpoint. (I don't like the way Tescos usurps community shopping but I can't fault their busines plan so easily.)

I think our concern here is for punters, just as saafe's is for prossies. It is reasonable to assume that a prossie may be a conniving thieving short-changing little clock-watcher but only inasmuch as it makes the punter take realistic precautions. If there is proof, then she goes on a blacklist. Otherwise they are simply black market business chancers and not all of them will be out to scam the punter. Some will want to establish a client base and of those, some may do it ethically by providing good service and good attitude, and others may try to entrap the punter by laying it on thick. I see no reason to condemn all prostitutes out of hand: merely be prepared for the worst but hope (intelligently) for the best. The "best" meaning good service and good attitude NOT extending 'GFE' to the period outside of the punt.

Spot on. I'm generally nice to people who pay me, because it is profitable to be so. It doesn't mean I secretly hate them. Honestly, most of the time I don't have feelings one way or the other.  If they started calling me up and asking them to go to the cinema with them every Friday night for free because they liked my company so much, I'd be a bit fucking weirded out to say the least*.

I think it's OK to feel some EAS for a prossie as long as you keep it in perspective. I quite enjoy the headfuck and emotional rollercoaster for a few days when it happens, personally.  The problems come when you start thinking that your feelings are anything other than that... your feelings.   It's just something your brain does from time to time. It doesn't mean you're her special little snowflake.

The WG's responsibility towards you begins and ends with delivering the services paid for, in a pleasant and competent fashion.  Beyond that, she owes you nuttin', and if you expect more than that, at best you're asking to be blacklisted by her, and at worst, exploited for all the cash in your bank.

*assuming they weren't a hot, slutty woman in which case disregard this

+1 to both these posts! Nothing I could add other than to say imo it simply all boils down to the intelligence (common sense if you like) & emotional intelligence of either the wg or punter. Crucially though, in this case I'd argue that the odds are stacked in favour of the wg. A punter, if "emotionally" thick is definitely going to be taken advantage of, to some degree, 100% of the time.

As for common sense:

During some punts it takes a while for the old boy to explode, i booked an hour session, so after 25 minutes of continuos fucking (no viagra needed) she mumbled "whens he gonna finish" in her own language not realising i could understand certain words/phrases. That was it for me never went back after that, she phoned me and texted me several times after that never responded back though

I loved this! Fucking snidey cow caught banged to rights!

[vw]

I'm not keen on fluffies or WKs, but they're not the worst out there.

Well that's a matter of opinion, I don't punt to have it influenced by these pricks either polluting reviews making choosing more difficult or chasing girls away from the industry.

No they need to be treated with complete contempt to realise what cockroaches they are, now they directly are affecting my punting would love to squash the cockroaches under my feet.

[GreyDave]

  agree that some of the girls who are professional have huge problems with some of us punters.. One I ve seen  (damm good shag)  has had a really mad stalker causing terrible problems and the old bill seem to be pretty inaffective in dealing with these sort of complaints still....There is a point where a Fluffy is a Nutter and this buggers it for us all

[Sticky]

Well that's a matter of opinion, I don't punt to have it influenced by these pricks either polluting reviews making choosing more difficult or chasing girls away from the industry.

No they need to be treated with complete contempt to realise what cockroaches they are, now they directly are affecting my punting would love to squash the cockroaches under my feet.

While they're just fluffies or WKs they're annoying for the reasons you mentioned. Once they turn into stalkers then they're the worst in my view. Until then, time wasters and chancers are the worst since they end up convincing girls to stop working more than anyone else, and I'd be pissed if some girl I'd wanted to see stopped working because of others being twattish.

But that's just my opinion.

[vw]

While they're just fluffies or WKs they're annoying for the reasons you mentioned. Once they turn into stalkers then they're the worst in my view. Until then, time wasters and chancers are the worst since they end up convincing girls to stop working more than anyone else, and I'd be pissed if some girl I'd wanted to see stopped working because of others being twattish.

But that's just my opinion.

Not my type of people but you are right they are very different levels on the scale.

Many try and normalise their behaviour thus encouraging more to move up the scale.

Might sound selfish but really pisses me of when it affects my punting because someone never learnt appropriate behaviour.

[squeezebox]

I have learned to spot the signs early so now in post sex chat I tend to make it clear that nothing more is on the cards and that I never mix business with my home life. I prefer to do this as then they can get themselves on check before they go too far. 

Just before Xmas I had to block all contact from a monthly six hour client as he didn't get it and it got to the point where if I kept contact open I would just be encouraging his fantasy which is a cruel thing to do just to keep the money coming in.

This would be the best course of action, however, there are those that get greedy and run the risk of getting jaded. We all want to get on as individuals and have fun, but some punters forget themselves and take it too personally.

[yumyum3]

Unfortunately true. The first words of the alcoholic intending to give up, is "I'm an alcoholic." Only a small percentage of fluffies seem even to get that far. Those one or two that do are 'career fluffies' and only slightly more bearable because they admit it openly.

There's two aspects. Firstly UKP is indeed here to help punters: and part of being hard on fluffies is for their own sake to get them to wake up. Punting is more enjoyable as well as a lot safer (physically, emotionally, financially) if you can be realistic about it. If you can't, you might wake up one day from a happy litle stupor and wonder where your life went.

The other aspect is when we see dozens of fluffie reviews (and fluffies do indeed like to review, often at great length in technicolour - I guess it is reassuring for their egos and penises). Fluffie reviews are misleading. Not only in their words: but a casual reader will glance through reviews quite quickly and assume that Fanny x is better than Fanny y as Fanny x has ten good reviews and Fany y only has one. They don't stop to read the laborious paragraphs of shit about how "the lady opened the door" or the Disneyworld experience of several different positions. The may even miss the small print, on the rare occasions it's included, about how a size 6 girl "had a couple of extra pounds" or the sparkly 19yr old was "possibly in her thirties": they just see the word "Positive" put there largely "in fairness to the lady" who probably "did her best" (even though she was shite). Reviews like that are taking the piss IMO, taking the piss out of a unique forum with a strong punter-orientated ethos.

Good post, M. Deluded idiots and I see a few of them are getting bolder again writing this drivel. Narcissistic pricks.

[Zola1956]

Fools they all are. Getting attached to a WG. You just go there to fuck. I have always believed it should not become a regular habit. Its best to do it once or twice a year or you will become lazy.

[vw]

Fools they all are. Getting attached to a WG. You just go there to fuck. I have always believed it should not become a regular habit. Its best to do it once or twice a year or you will become lazy.

Best to rotate and not become fixated on any one in particular IMHO, some people fixate all their action on one victim that's when it generally becomes a problem.  These people forget that many others are just as good as their fixation and have forgot.

Only punting twice per year means the poor deluded fucker is focussing all on that one girl for 6 months or more, no wonder they sometimes appear to lose the plot.

[Clarkson]

Unfortunately true. The first words of the alcoholic intending to give up, is "I'm an alcoholic." Only a small percentage of fluffies seem even to get that far. Those one or two that do are 'career fluffies' and only slightly more bearable because they admit it openly.

There's two aspects. Firstly UKP is indeed here to help punters: and part of being hard on fluffies is for their own sake to get them to wake up. Punting is more enjoyable as well as a lot safer (physically, emotionally, financially) if you can be realistic about it. If you can't, you might wake up one day from a happy litle stupor and wonder where your life went.

The other aspect is when we see dozens of fluffie reviews (and fluffies do indeed like to review, often at great length in technicolour - I guess it is reassuring for their egos and penises). Fluffie reviews are misleading. Not only in their words: but a casual reader will glance through reviews quite quickly and assume that Fanny x is better than Fanny y as Fanny x has ten good reviews and Fany y only has one. They don't stop to read the laborious paragraphs of shit about how "the lady opened the door" or the Disneyworld experience of several different positions. The may even miss the small print, on the rare occasions it's included, about how a size 6 girl "had a couple of extra pounds" or the sparkly 19yr old was "possibly in her thirties": they just see the word "Positive" put there largely "in fairness to the lady" who probably "did her best" (even though she was shite). Reviews like that are taking the piss IMO, taking the piss out of a unique forum with a strong punter-orientated ethos.

Spot on white night fluffies are the bane of this hobby and can ruin a good WG there are girls I won't see because fluffies have become regulars and like to buy them stuff and talk talk talk but about what? 

It's simple enough find girl, arrange deal and time, turn up, pay, fuck girl, clean up and leave.    

[azrael]

It's simple enough find girl, arrange deal and time, turn up, pay, fuck girl, clean up and leave.

Spot on, if you follow these rules you cant go wrong. The moment you deviate from this game plan then your up shit creak leave yourself open to the dreaded eas, plus the wg then starts to talk shit that winds your minutes down  leaving less time to have a second/third pop