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Flunt

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Do punters actually want reviews?

I have done two recently, the first less than complimentary about a forum darling which has caused a bit of trouble, the second a positive on a questionable pro$$ie in London. The second review hardly raises a question but say anything against a forum darling and I'm a liar, blackmailer, creep that demanded BB or she would get a bad review, to name but a few accusations thrown at me recently!

Good pro$$ies have bad days and bad pro$$ies have good days. If I write a fluffy positive about one and you get a shit punt, sorry not my fault. If nobody dare write a bad review against any forum darling whether it's their first review or 50th then that gives them a free pass to let standards fall.

My review of Mandy and Jessie, if believed, was different to the normal gushing positives they receive, the chances are the next punter will receive the excellent service for which they have become known and which has elevated Mandy to the status she has earned.

If the only negatives which are going to believed are B&S Romanians and everything else must be positive then prosseynet is dead, long live prossynet!

I joined this site because punters were free to express their reviews and opinions. If negative reviews are going to be greeted with the same bull shit as AW where punters can't say anything bad due to the tit for tat system then the integrity of the site is doomed!

Do you want the truth from punters or pro$$ies?

Online hendrix

Of course the site wants reviews, and honest ones. I don't think there's much point otherwise :unknown:

Thing is, your "Neutral" was bound to cause a white Knight backlash, but the reality is that it's just another view on a generally well reviewed girl.

Likewise your positive on a girl that's had some negatives.

I don't understand why any punter thinks that any one review is the definitive one. They all add up to make a picture that you then decide to take a punt on or not.

If reviews here are dishonest.. I think they tend to get found out.

Offline Roth

Of course the site wants reviews, and honest ones. I don't think there's much point otherwise :unknown:

Thing is, your "Neutral" was bound to cause a white Knight backlash, but the reality is that it's just another view on a generally well reviewed girl.

Likewise your positive on a girl that's had some negatives.

I don't understand why any punter thinks that any one review is the definitive one. They all add up to make a picture that you then decide to take a punt on or not.

If reviews here are dishonest.. I think they tend to get found out.

+1  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Offline cueball

Too right this site needs reviews, genuine reviews are the life blood

Just had a sneck at your last one flunt, turned into a proper white knighting adventure bun fight.

There's some loons on here that just want to gallop in and save a fair maidens reputation, even if they ain't seen her (god only knows where the logic is with that)

Just do your reviews as you see fit, tell the truth as you see it and don't feel you have to justify it to some plonker whose making a fool of himself.

It's the false bull shit touting reviews that are more dangerous.

Offline Marmalade

Do you want the truth from punters or pro$$ies?
Fluffies are parasites.

Offline stevedave

Too right this site needs reviews, genuine reviews are the life blood

Just had a sneck at your last one flunt, turned into a proper white knighting adventure bun fight.

There's some loons on here that just want to gallop in and save a fair maidens reputation, even if they ain't seen her (god only knows where the logic is with that)

Just do your reviews as you see fit, tell the truth as you see it and don't feel you have to justify it to some plonker whose making a fool of himself.

It's the false bull shit touting reviews that are more dangerous.

This.

+ plenty.

_Jason_

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This may not be in context and I am sorry.

General rule for the forums anywhere is simple. "forum darlings, studs" stay away or avoid or simply dont cross them. As if you disagree with them or even tickle them the wrong way then people who can ban, like mods and other people will get rid of you. So best to stay way.

Also i feel on this forum few head strong, bosses do exisit but they keep things in context so therefore maybe on this forum is not an issue however elsewere you diagree with someone popular like smiths and you are gone. permernatly gone. i found out the hard way on few gaming and other forums.

if we all keep things in context and dont over sell or over hype one experience V really putting down a working girl beacse of a bad expereince. We must keep the context.

overall i will give this forum 99%. it is very good for eveyone including working girls to SEE why girls get postive reviews to improve there own game.

Offline Marmalade

This may not be in context and I am sorry.

General rule for the forums anywhere is simple. "forum darlings, studs" stay away or avoid or simply dont cross them. As if you disagree with them or even tickle them the wrong way then people who can ban, like mods and other people will get rid of you. So best to stay way.

Also i feel on this forum few head strong, bosses do exisit but they keep things in context so therefore maybe on this forum is not an issue however elsewere you diagree with someone popular like smiths and you are gone. permernatly gone. i found out the hard way on few gaming and other forums.

if we all keep things in context and dont over sell or over hype one experience V really putting down a working girl beacse of a bad expereince. We must keep the context.

overall i will give this forum 99%. it is very good for eveyone including working girls to SEE why girls get postive reviews to improve there own game.

I'm not sure that positive reviews help prossies improve their game, although they do help them to increase their prices. It is often hard for newbies used to the mentality of AW and prossie-run forums. But UKP's not really a chat club. Newbies can browse and learn and find the best choices. After a few hard knocks they'll be better prepared to write reviews for punters rather than prossies. If you read the reviews of longer-standing members (who are often critical) you will hopefully find that they express facts in their reviews: things that can be objectively assessed. Opinions are best tacked on at the end.

Whereas fluffies write almost 100% opinions, mostly a lot of adjectives and very few facts. Some people are easily satisfied and frankly don't need UKP. It can also take a bit of time to learn to view prossies objectively instead of just feeling wonderful that you've got your end away.

As for disagreeing, while anyone can and should feel free to disagree on politics and all the other rubbish, when it comes to reviews of prossies the forum guidlines are pretty clear and that is, don't post just to undermine another person's reviews. That goes for anyone. But the moderation is very light. If you write a factual review, with good and bad points about your experience (less strings of adjectives the better usually!) very few will challenge you. They might write a different review if they've seen her, or question some of the points, but it gioes both ways. Most of the complaints I've seen have involved fluffies expressing vitriol towards a negative review. I expect a rough ride every time I write a negative review, often fluffies popping up out of nowhere, not to write an alternative review, but to defend the prossie in question and get angry with me for saying anything. I also risk being blackballed by prossies over a negative review. Most of those 'punters' are prossies in disguise, or their faithful servants. So the only reason to do it is to warn other punters of what may be (at least in my experience) bad service providers and compliment good service providers. If you feel UKP has helped or benefitted you at all, that is the way I think you can give something back.

Offline smiths

Do punters actually want reviews?

I have done two recently, the first less than complimentary about a forum darling which has caused a bit of trouble, the second a positive on a questionable pro$$ie in London. The second review hardly raises a question but say anything against a forum darling and I'm a liar, blackmailer, creep that demanded BB or she would get a bad review, to name but a few accusations thrown at me recently!

Good pro$$ies have bad days and bad pro$$ies have good days. If I write a fluffy positive about one and you get a shit punt, sorry not my fault. If nobody dare write a bad review against any forum darling whether it's their first review or 50th then that gives them a free pass to let standards fall.

My review of Mandy and Jessie, if believed, was different to the normal gushing positives they receive, the chances are the next punter will receive the excellent service for which they have become known and which has elevated Mandy to the status she has earned.

If the only negatives which are going to believed are B&S Romanians and everything else must be positive then prosseynet is dead, long live prossynet!

I joined this site because punters were free to express their reviews and opinions. If negative reviews are going to be greeted with the same bull shit as AW where punters can't say anything bad due to the tit for tat system then the integrity of the site is doomed!

Do you want the truth from punters or pro$$ies?

I do if punters wish to review and are genuine, my advice is just be honest, on the first review you have mentioned that you did you have had quite a bit of support as well as criticism. These white knight pricks are being banned one by one, I hope their days on here are coming to an end. So dont let these pricks put you off posting your true experience as that's what they want. Report them as white knights so admin is aware, he cant read every post and thread.

vw

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Yes we do, reviews are questioned but white knighting is not acceptable like the nonsense you received from the dominant fan boy element of the East Midlands.

Offline Nagilum

Yes please, never stop the reviews no matter what happens.  It happens to all of us at some point and I am waiting my turn with the fan boys.

Offline redt4

Tbf I have recently seen quite a popular girl and personally rated her neutral at best but am still kinda wondering whether too even review....

tonysoprano

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Tbf I have recently seen quite a popular girl and personally rated her neutral at best but am still kinda wondering whether too even review....

All the more reason to review. Negatives and neutrals are probably more important than positives in my view.

It also helps to filter out the WK's so go for it. I don't like the idea of anyone feeling under pressure to withhold their opinions because of pressure from other punters who disagree. That can't be tolerated.

vw

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Tbf I have recently seen quite a popular girl and personally rated her neutral at best but am still kinda wondering whether too even review....

That will upset your fanboy mates the hyenas that often include you that go after other negative posters.

Maybe it will be a lesson to you on the matter and feel how it is to be white knighted yourself.

a chance for personal growth

Otherwise now you have mentioned it a hit to your credibility if you don't !

Offline Sonny Crockett

I would always write a review if I feel I got a brilliant service, a shit service, was fucked over by an escort, or was fucked about by an escort.

I couldn't give two shits what the lady would say to me. In fact one WG whom I wrote a negative review about, texted me to wish that I met someone would then stick the knife in me and twist it. That for me confirmed that she really couldn't give a shit wanting to give me a good time and she only wanted to fuck me around for weeks. Young WGs do generally have that sort of attitude anyway!!!!
« Last Edit: December 26, 2015, 09:39:05 pm by Sonny Crockett »

Offline cueball

Tbf I have recently seen quite a popular girl and personally rated her neutral at best but am still kinda wondering whether too even review....

That should make an entertaining read, you should review her honestly though, if you don't then you're fooling yourself and losing your credibility.

vw

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That should make an entertaining read, you should review her honestly though, if you don't then you're fooling yourself and losing your credibility.
He should not worry, there will be many to offer moral support if it all turns white knighty !

Offline nike

The whole point, for me, of this forum is the reviews. Without objective reviews it's just a lot of hot air and a waste of time.

Offline Sonny Crockett

When I do my reviews I always tell it the way I see it. After all, it is my account of my experience with that particular WG. I love this website as it gives the punter a voice!!! This is why I joined UKP at the beginning of this year. I had known about this website since the Summer 2014, when looking for further info on the web about WGs I wanted to see. However after having a bad punt in January, I joined UKP as I wanted to do a negative review of that punt which didn't meet my expectations (but didn't get round to doing it until a few months later, as I wished to begin my membership in a blaze of positivity). I was never a member of any punting forum prior to UKP.

Offline JEH7376

I may be wrong here but isn't the worst white knighting on particular regional forums? I don't find the west kids to be a problem, IIRC the only issue we had with a neg was from a post from a non-westmidlands (AFAIK) member giving a neg and jimyredcab another non west mids member jumping in. East Mids, NE and southwest seemed to be the areas where there seemed to be bands supporting particular girls. I could be wrong though its not like I check the whole forum regularly.

Offline Sonny Crockett

I may be wrong here but isn't the worst white knighting on particular regional forums? I don't find the west kids to be a problem, IIRC the only issue we had with a neg was from a post from a non-westmidlands (AFAIK) member giving a neg and jimyredcab another non west mids member jumping in. East Mids, NE and southwest seemed to be the areas where there seemed to be bands supporting particular girls. I could be wrong though its not like I check the whole forum regularly.

I think it's with most regions. IMO the worst are London, East Midlands and South West. Lots of White Knights from those regions.

vw

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I may be wrong here but isn't the worst white knighting on particular regional forums? I don't find the west kids to be a problem, IIRC the only issue we had with a neg was from a post from a non-westmidlands (AFAIK) member giving a neg and jimyredcab another non west mids member jumping in. East Mids, NE and southwest seemed to be the areas where there seemed to be bands supporting particular girls. I could be wrong though its not like I check the whole forum regularly.
There was some on the hawkwind review of RaquelVIP and her cancellation due to her period coming on, loved her explaining how women work though !

Yes many of the West Midlands boys come down and White Knight on the Little Katie threads so yes you have them in your region !

Offline redt4

That should make an entertaining read, you should review her honestly though, if you don't then you're fooling yourself and losing your credibility.

I will , just musing it over at the moment to make sure im just in what im saying...

vw

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I will , just musing it over at the moment to make sure im just in what im saying...
just tell the truth, after all nothing else is important !

Offline JEH7376

There was some on the hawkwind review of RaquelVIP and her cancellation due to her period coming on, loved her explaining how women work though !

Yes many of the West Midlands boys come down and White Knight on the Little Katie threads so yes you have them in your region !

I said 'on regional forums' and that there doesn't seem to be much of it on the west mids forum, which of course in no way precludes WM punters doing it elsewhere, but thanks for the nudge anyway ill have to revisit that thread to see who they are so I can watch for them popping up in the midlands  :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: December 26, 2015, 10:23:23 pm by JEH7376 »

Offline JEH7376

I think it's with most regions. IMO the worst are London, East Midlands and South West. Lots of White Knights from those regions.

Ok but there are better and worse regions it seems. Some of the stuff I saw in littlekatiegate and mandygate was nauseating


And by the way flunt sorry you had to put up with that shit. Keep on truckin mate  :thumbsup:

Offline cueball

I will , just musing it over at the moment to make sure im just in what im saying...

Just bang an honest review up exactly how you saw it.

I'd much rather maintain my credibility on the whole forum that keep "in" with a couple of plastic sword waving plonkers.

Have the bollox to stand by your words (blunt I know)

Online Placebo88

There was some on the hawkwind review of RaquelVIP and her cancellation due to her period coming on, loved her explaining how women work though !

Yes many of the West Midlands boys come down and White Knight on the Little Katie threads so yes you have them in your region !

I have not reread the thread but from what I remember most of the comments in the Raquel review were balanced points , not delusional and biased White Knighting.I said some things in her favour there , but I also posted against her on other matters.Freedom for readers to comment and question is beneficial for all reviews , whatever their charge.

A lot of the Little Katie White Knights were / are out-of-towners , London mostly I think.All the other reviews threads I have read in the SW seem comparatively sane .

For reviews I ideally want the important details in as unbiased a way as possible, and the few I have written I have done in a way that would give me what I needed to know to make a decision for myself.I don't want any erotica type nonsense or to know the fantasies that exist within someones head.I did make a few posts on the Michelle Independent negative review purely because the brevity of the review gave me nothing to make my own assessment on , I did not dispute that it was a negative , no-one is perfect and punters' tastes differ.


Offline threechilliman

Agree with a lot of what's been said - post reviews honestly and you shouldn't go far wrong. Ignore the white knights who seem to forget this is paid sex

tcm

Offline Marmalade

Agree with a lot of what's been said - post reviews honestly and you shouldn't go far wrong. Ignore the white knights who seem to forget this is paid sex

tcm

Unfortunately they don't seem to read threads like this.    :dash:

Offline threechilliman

Unfortunately they don't seem to read threads like this.    :dash:

They don't have time - far too many damsels in distress to rescue!

tcm

Flunt

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Any review is a personal experience on one day. I saw one pro$$ie a couple of times recently, on the first occasion the heater wasn't working and the room was a bit cold. On the second occasion the heater was on full blast and it was like shagging in a sauna. The same room, with the same punter and pro$$ie with contradictory comments.

I think it is good that reviews, regardless of whether they are positive, neutral or negative, can be questioned and commented on. Some will have better experiences than me while others worse, the nature of punting.

Many thanks to all review many of which I have benefited from and long may they continue.  :thumbsup:

vw

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Any review is a personal experience on one day. I saw one pro$$ie a couple of times recently, on the first occasion the heater wasn't working and the room was a bit cold. On the second occasion the heater was on full blast and it was like shagging in a sauna. The same room, with the same punter and pro$$ie with contradictory comments.

I think it is good that reviews, regardless of whether they are positive, neutral or negative, can be questioned and commented on. Some will have better experiences than me while others worse, the nature of punting.

Many thanks to all review many of which I have benefited from and long may they continue.  :thumbsup:
Today shagbambi posted a positive today of a girl he negatived a few days earlier, you are right about snapshots in time.

Offline threechilliman

I think even when leaving a positive, it's as well to add anything negative you found. Similarly, when posting a neg, I put anything positive I found. Gives a review a sense of balance and helps other punters who may like/not like the things you do.

tcm

Offline Cunning Punt

Course we need reviews - and a thick skin.

Stick to your guns. Other members will back you up if it's accurate and honest - as they did with the one you mention.

It seems to be just one white knight cunt, who rightly got lambasted by a lot of other members.

Thanks.

Offline Marmalade

I think even when leaving a positive, it's as well to add anything negative you found. Similarly, when posting a neg, I put anything positive I found. Gives a review a sense of balance and helps other punters who may like/not like the things you do.

tcm
+100

If you ever read professional reviews of films, music or whatever you'll see the reviewer almost always does this. Sounds a bit obsessive otherwise.

mrhappypants

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Two things

First I think the discipline of a review is to describe why a different punter could arrive at a different recommendation from the same experience.  Sweet Chantelle is a valued regular of mine but anyone wanting a PSE or stunning looks should not book her.  The reason West8 and all the other bland hyperbolix wankers piss me of is that there is no measure, balance and detail in their reviews.

Second, difficult to call the difference between "white knighting" and plain old fashioned touting.  Personally I reckon much more of the later than the former.   

Dave

Timmy2

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Ha Ha
One missing windup poster from this thread on Reviews
Still, i have and will continue to contribute to the review system on here

Go on guess!
Raddy