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Author Topic: Has anyone got a psychological explanation for white knight fluffies?  (Read 3304 times)

Offline Poopster

I know, this post is going to be deeply hypocritical... yes, the average folk in society don't understand why anyone would want to shag a prossie, we're clearly all socially inept losers who can't form relationships with real women, blah, blah, blah...   :thumbsdown:

Anyway, I'm speaking as a bloke who likes to shag prossies, you know that anyway or I wouldn't be here.   :thumbsup:

So what's the thinking behind white knight fluffying?  Is this an even more awkward and socially inept type of prossie-shagger almost completely devoid of any civvy female company, falling in love with the girl?   :blush:

Or are the white knight fluffies merely pimps or alter-egos of a disgruntled prossie, desperate to show a bunch of strangers how good she is at sucking dick?   :angelgirl:   

White knight fluffies, share your tales too!   :crazy:

Offline smiths

I know, this post is going to be deeply hypocritical... yes, the average folk in society don't understand why anyone would want to shag a prossie, we're clearly all socially inept losers who can't form relationships with real women, blah, blah, blah...   :thumbsdown:

Anyway, I'm speaking as a bloke who likes to shag prossies, you know that anyway or I wouldn't be here.   :thumbsup:

So what's the thinking behind white knight fluffying?  Is this an even more awkward and socially inept type of prossie-shagger almost completely devoid of any civvy female company, falling in love with the girl?   :blush:

Or are the white knight fluffies merely pimps or alter-egos of a disgruntled prossie, desperate to show a bunch of strangers how good she is at sucking dick?   :angelgirl:   

White knight fluffies, share your tales too!   :crazy:

Sadly deluded tools who really think the WG cares for them, some even think they love them, and they worship them, unclesnideheart and his love letter review that admin didn't agree was a review being one such. Just like anyone who offers a service for money a WG is offering it for cash and obviously nothing wrong with that, these guys simply don't believe it though, there HAS to be more to it in their deluded thinking, after all a woman has kissed them, sucked their cock and fucked them, it CANT JUST be for cash.

Also naïve mugs who know no better, I can understand this kind of guy though after being a member on here for a while reality should dawn on them unless they aren't too smart.

Offline mattylondon

I know, this post is going to be deeply hypocritical..
I think that for the most part, they're deluded and deeply conflicted men.

Conflicted because they enjoy whoring just like every other punter but feel some guilt at the same time. Deluded because they try to overcompensate for this, by employing different language, such as escort or ladies this and client or gentleman that. An effect to subconsciously deny the simple fact that the woman is a prostitute and they are a punter. And as part of this, they overcompensate by trying to come over a either caring for or standing up for a prostitute, who quite frankly doesn't need any of their help.

It's a funny old thing but in talking with quite a few prossies about this privately, the so-called white knight or fluffy is the worst kind of punter they can have. Worst because they feel they're 'different' and have some kind of connection other punters do not. Worst, in that they're the biggest boundary pushers for the prossie. The sort of people who try to contact them outside of the booking or stick their nose into they're private life. The sort of men who feel that their familiarity and money, for a particular prossie should buy them favours that other punters don't have.

« Last Edit: December 24, 2015, 04:24:33 pm by mattylondon »

Offline rockharders

I've written a few posts on fluffy white knight cunts too. I despise them because they contribute little to the forum.   I've noticed fluffy cunts tend to write glowing reviews of the same girl over and over again. How exactly does that help?

If I want to read romantic drivel with the most puke inducing fluffiest cuntiest language possible, I'll look up erotic fiction on the web. If I want to find a good WG to shag, I don't want to have to plough my way through fluffy drivel from the same handful or reviewers.

One of my fav WGs was telling me about a fluffy regular who became a stalker. Ended up bombarding her with texts all the time and creeping the fuck out of her.

My opinion on the psychology of fluffy cunts:
1) Lonely saddos who don't know what real love is. Read their reviews, it really does come across that they THINK the WG is in love with them. Fact: No WG will give the same awesome love and sex as a decent wife or girlfriend. I question whether a fluffy cunt has ever even had a real girlfriend.

2) An element of insecure narcissism in their personality, hence the bragging about how great they are as lovers and how special the WG treats them. Again and again, the same old biased reviews are repeated. And they probably don't realise that we don't give a shit, we can also pay for the same girl and get the same service.

3) The white knighting, is because like extreme football fanaticism, an insult (or negative) to the WG is an insult to the white knight. They are so deluded, they don't even realise that punting is ultimately a business transaction. Pay money and get a shag. A fluffy cunt will mix in their own mental delusions into that transaction. It's not longer a transaction. It's a relationship.

4) Maybe fluffy cunts are somewhere on the aspergers or sociopathic spectrum. Hence they can't read signals or work out what real love is. They can only emulate and brag, then bully anyone else who dares question them or their favourite girls.


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White knights believe women should be protected at all costs. That women cannot defend themselves. I once saw a woman smack some guy in the face outside a nightclub... then the guy was assaulted by a gang of white knights who thought the woman was in trouble. Knights who come to the womans aid. Other examples I have seen is a woman who is on welfare.. has had 9 kids and there is a white knight supporting her financially. He isn't getting anything for it (no sex) he does it because he believes all women should be protected and it is never her fault to be in that situation.

The psychology behind it is they either are trying to get something for it or they never really broke out the lies society fed them that women are to be pedalstalled and protected. That women are made of glass and it is mans duty to make sure they never get hurt. Things that mothers teach their sons and dads laugh about.

Punting related it is guys who defend their favourite prossies even if she is in the wrong. To defend her in negative reviews and never let a negative smudge come on her reputation. He is her protector. The white knight. He doesn't have an opinion of his own and he will always follow hers.  Usually this is to score fluffy brownie points in order to get something. They treat men and women differently. If it was a man in the same scenario they would not defend him.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2015, 05:01:07 pm by Ben4454 »

Offline Marmalade

Rockharders sounds like the right track. Maybe something to do with oxytocin...

Offline HighlyMotivated

I'd say it's OK to be "fluffy" during a meet if that's your thing, we all want different things out of the punt life. Nothing wrong with that at all.

But bringing the fluff  onto a forum that reviews WGs based on individual experience is counter productive.. Plenty of variables can come into play during a punt, WG having an off day, punter expectations etc. Common sense really. Essentially it's stupid to disagree with someone's personal experience unless there's fair cause to be suspicious

Personally I think they believe the WG in question is reading the reviews (which they probably are) and stick up for them to gain favour. Nothing more complex than that


Offline AnthG

As an attempt to think up a good full on answer. I think it's worth differentiating from specific one girl white knighting, and general white knighting every girl whether they have seen them or not.

Specific girl white knighting basically is due to I can think off the top of my head an amalgamation of things all put together.

1. The punter knows the girl, so feels sympathy for her and how he thinks she will feel on reading it.

2. The punter *thinks* he could do a better job of challanging things that he thinks does not add up than the girl herself could - or she just doesn't want to - or worse still she has asked the punter to do so on her behalf by PM

3. The punter knows a negative will affect her business, and because he knows her, she has likely explained how she is desperate for the money from bookings - she needs it to feed her kids, for her rent that she is struggling to afford, for her universite fee's etc.

4. The punter thinks its a punter forum, so really its kind of his role to do it and not hers. Or he thinks he will get a better reception from fellow punters if he does it

5. Trying to impress the girl. There is something very appealing to women those men who protect them.

6. Sometimes it may not just be about the girl - the punter maybe thinks his judgement is being questioned as he likes her. And other punters are saying she is ugly, a crap shag or whatever. It can be taken as a backhanded way of saying that punter must be easily pleased or have low standards.

7. And to round it off, (of what I can think of right now). The worst one out of them all for punters. The punter has been told by the girl the review is 100% fake, or that the punter who left it was dodgy with her somehow. This puts the punter in the worst possible situation, as if he does nothing and just sits by after being told this. That means the girl will all of a sudden take it out on that punter the next time he sees them. Any discounts from being a regular, and promisis of 'I will just do OWO with you', any, it does not matter the hour is up, you can stay longer, all gone out of the window. So the punter is left with the worst dilema.

On the other subject of every girl white knighting. I think this one is just a case of they are very new to the game, the are probably brand new punters, and are not used to the fact that girls can have negative comments raised against them as they are offering a service.

Or flipside its a case of they are thinking they are some kind of gentleman and this is what gentleman should do (that is the most annoying one), as these gentlemen who are so nice and supportive and won't have a bad word ever said towards any women no matter what she has done. Will at the same time call that punter worse than scum who has said anything and act like he thinks he is superior to that punter for having those 'morals'. Those type of people make me want to pull my hair out.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2015, 06:01:55 pm by AnthG »
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Clark Gilbert

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If you want a psychological explanation I think Bowlbys attachment theory is worth looking at. Basically it all comes down parent-child interactions in early life.
There are several types of dysfunctional attachment which can lead to obsessive behaviour. Here is a good summary:

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vw

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Think they have never been made to feel special before and a prossie that makes them feel the most special they have ever felt becomes a life focus like born again Christians rediscovering Christianity and have to spread the gospel to all who will listen.   :wackogirl: :wackogirl: :wackogirl:

tonysoprano

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Think they have never been made to feel special before and a prossie that makes them feel the most special they have ever felt becomes a life focus like born again Christians rediscovering Christianity and have to spread the gospel to all who will listen.   :wackogirl: :wackogirl: :wackogirl:

Bit of this but also I think a definite insecurity. They feel they need to show just how great the girl was with them as though they have achieved something others can't do. It's almost like they feel superior to other punters because their punts are in someway more real than others.

vw

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Bit of this but also I think a definite insecurity. They feel they need to show just how great the girl was with them as though they have achieved something others can't do. It's almost like they feel superior to other punters because their punts are in someway more real than others.
The superior punters do a bit of prospecting in my eyes, find something new not this 40+ reviews only lark then give an air of familiarity when discussing, they all want to prove they know the most.

Should get off their velour cushions and find their own gems !

Offline Blue Suede Goo

What sickens me is when the White Knights speculate or speak on the WG's part.
A few of the new, recently banned members were very guilty of this and, every time I read that in a post, I just couldn't believe that they were obviously so unaware how smitten and unbiased they were.

I also noticed the mutual back-slapping and elitism that I think they hold in higher esteem than imparting information and reliable, unbiased reviews and opinions.
At the beginning of this year I would have jumped through all of LK's hoops and played the waiting game but, I'm afraid, the White Knights have really turned me off the idea of punting with her due to the shite they have posted.

Another fear is that she has kept hold of a members texts and that she could have a potential AW and UKP members database of nicknames and communications.
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Offline hendrix

I'm not sure about the psychology of fluffies, but the far more dangerous "secret fluffy" bothers me more.

This is the guy that pretends to be "Mr Cum&Go" talks about pro$$ies and is vocally anti fluffy.... And then you find out he's talking about other punters, what they do, wants to know all about a prossies private life, secretly messages his favourites as soon as they're mentioned etc. Sticks his nose in wherever he can to curry favour with a prossie.


In fact, exactly like a fluff, except he doesn't openly white Knight because he'll get found out. As I say, way worse because of the pretence of being "anti-fluffy"

Total cunts. Fair few of them too.

vw

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At the beginning of this year I would have jumped through all of LK's hoops and played the waiting game but, I'm afraid, the White Knights have really turned me off the idea of punting with her due to the shite they have posted.

Another fear is that she has kept hold of a members texts and that she could have a potential AW and UKP members database of nicknames and communications.
 :unknown:
Seems your not alone, would never punt a prossie that has been with ush, finch or Quasimodo the guys are grade a cunts and believe they would fish for info on their "bullies" .  Think coma mentioned it the other day and got attacked, think he exhibited good common sense these guys probably park outside watching in case needed.   :wackogirl: :wackogirl: :wackogirl:

Offline webpunter

the average folk in society don't understand why anyone would want to shag a prossie
Long may this continue - well as far as blokes are concerned.  Otherwise we'd all be fucked with jack-shit availability & sky high prices.  Well in the short-medium term until the supply side of things catches up with the demand

we're clearly all socially inept losers who can't form relationships with real women, blah, blah, blah...
:lol:  You just never see rich successful people using hookers.  Not much.  Complete losers obviously

yorkshire123

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I have a theory that most white knights don't actually realise that's what they are until their fave pro comes in for a little negativity.

For some unknown reason they feel the need to take offence on said prossie's behalf & find it impossible to resist posting. Others will follow & they start to feel safe in the knowledge that they were right to say what they did.........Until a "hater" comes along & has a piss on their chips.
 

vw

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I have a theory that most white knights don't actually realise that's what they are until their fave pro comes in for a little negativity.

For some unknown reason they feel the need to take offence on said prossie's behalf & find it impossible to resist posting. Others will follow & they start to feel safe in the knowledge that they were right to say what they did.........Until a "hater" comes along & has a piss on their chips.
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Offline David1970

Flurries are not harmless, if you even put a Neutral report on there lady you will get a PM warning  you off. The seem to hunt in packs, attacking anyone one who does a reviews they do not like. They seem to support cetrain lady and the Agencies
The Northeast section is the worst for fluffies.
If they cannot take the truth they should leave.

Offline Marmalade

Ok I'm going to throw in a couple of ideas, and try maybe to expand on rockharders points by looking at some actual psychology.

Consider normal civvie relationships, since they are a clue. Think how after a breakup, some people will more qiuickly get over it than others. Think how the stereotypical youngster recommends to 'get over it', usually with a bottle of wine (or getting drunk) and maybe a 'good shag' with someone else. What he or she is basically doing or trying to do, is realign the bonding-feelings sensation by stimulating oxytocin (the feelgood love-n-trust -- fluffy if you like -- bonding hormone) and re-associating those feelings more realistically with a new environment now that the old lover has gone. If a person fails to do this in some way, then the oxytocin fuels memories of the ex-lover and possibly makes the break-up harder. It is about autonomy, switching the body hormones on and off, and it may come easier to some people than others.

A punt is like a very short-term relationship, for one hour or however long the booking lasted. A person may have a great need to feel attached and fail to recognise that the session is 'over' even if that is factually what has happened. I think this is irrespective of whether the prossie becomes a 'regular or not': the real nature of the business transaction means that the actual relationship is temporary, limited to the booking time. Failure to recognise this makes the punter feel more attached, more anxious about his supposed 'partner' (the prossie he has just fucked), and more protective towards her, as if she were a real-life partner. It also maybe suggests why he is less able to think clearly, less in control of himself, or less able to relate to his (fellow) punters: people he has a natural bond of friendship with, even if it is simply one of sharing information. The bonding with fellow punters also is to an extent oxytocin based, whereas the fluffywhiteknight's hormone circuits have prioritised oxytocin release and the feeelings it induces to a realtionship that he cannot truly accept has ended.

Here's a maybe not irrelevant academic study, for those who are interested, just published, which suggests:
"...having a more anxiously attached partner predicted higher relatedness but lower autonomy, whereas having a more avoidantly attached partner predicted lower relatedness but higher autonomy need fulfillment. "
(you can find the abstract if you want at External Link/Members Only, ("An Actor–Partner Interdependence Model of Attachment and Need Fulfillment in Romantic Dyads").


Two things suggest themselves to me from all this:
1) Fluffywhiteknights are not always in control of their feelings: this is so almost by definition. So to an extent, it's not their fault.
1a) This doesn't mean that they can't learn to manage their feelings better or more appropriately.
2) If this is true, simply blaming or hurling abuse at them may seem inappropriate in some ways and it can make them more isolated: but the first priority, especially as the fluffywhiteknight typically refuses to listen, is protecting the integrity of the forum. The 'psychology' of the fluffywhiteknight comes second. Perhaps he will learn (either by encouragement to think about what he's doing or by treating him in a 'mean' fashion -- "carrot or stick"). Being a bit 'abusive' about the prossie, for instance, saying what a fat arse she has, can also help him to get some perspective. Until he learns, he should, if possible, be prevented from posting reviews. Admin does this by banning him (and in exceptional cases, unbanning.)

I'm sure Jim an many others fell asleep halfway through that ... but you did ask!

vw

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Flurries are not harmless, if you even put a Neutral report on there lady you will get a PM warning  you off. The seem to hunt in packs, attacking anyone one who does a reviews they do not like. They seem to support cetrain lady and the Agencies
The Northeast section is the worst for fluffies.
If they cannot take the truth they should leave.
Look at them now just seen a "London Agencies use Phototshop"  as if NE agencies don't polish turds to.

Another guy is being accused of being a prossie because other members like her  they never learn ?

Never stops in the north east the home of the agency white knight !
« Last Edit: December 24, 2015, 08:05:15 pm by vw »

vw

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Ok I'm going to throw in a couple of ideas, and try maybe to expand on rockharders points by looking at some actual psychology.

Consider normal civvie relationships, since they are a clue. Think how after a breakup, some people will more qiuickly get over it than others. Think how the stereotypical youngster recommends to 'get over it', usually with a bottle of wine (or getting drunk) and maybe a 'good shag' with someone else. What he or she is basically doing or trying to do, is realign the bonding-feelings sensation by stimulating oxytocin (the feelgood love-n-trust -- fluffy if you like -- bonding hormone) and re-associating those feelings more realistically with a new environment now that the old lover has gone. If a person fails to do this in some way, then the oxytocin fuels memories of the ex-lover and possibly makes the break-up harder. It is about autonomy, switching the body hormones on and off, and it may come easier to some people than others.

A punt is like a very short-term relationship, for one hour or however long the booking lasted. A person may have a great need to feel attached and fail to recognise that the session is 'over' even if that is factually what has happened. I think this is irrespective of whether the prossie becomes a 'regular or not': the real nature of the business transaction means that the actual relationship is temporary, limited to the booking time. Failure to recognise this makes the punter feel more attached, more anxious about his supposed 'partner' (the prossie he has just fucked), and more protective towards her, as if she were a real-life partner. It also maybe suggests why he is less able to think clearly, less in control of himself, or less able to relate to his (fellow) punters: people he has a natural bond of friendship with, even if it is simply one of sharing information. The bonding with fellow punters also is to an extent oxytocin based, whereas the fluffywhiteknight's hormone circuits have prioritised oxytocin release and the feeelings it induces to a realtionship that he cannot truly accept has ended.

Here's a maybe not irrelevant academic study, for those who are interested, just published, which suggests:
"...having a more anxiously attached partner predicted higher relatedness but lower autonomy, whereas having a more avoidantly attached partner predicted lower relatedness but higher autonomy need fulfillment. "
(you can find the abstract if you want at External Link/Members Only, ("An Actor–Partner Interdependence Model of Attachment and Need Fulfillment in Romantic Dyads").


Two things suggest themselves to me from all this:
1) Fluffywhiteknights are not always in control of their feelings: this is so almost by definition. So to an extent, it's not their fault.
1a) This doesn't mean that they can't learn to manage their feelings better or more appropriately.
2) If this is true, simply blaming or hurling abuse at them may seem inappropriate in some ways and it can make them more isolated: but the first priority, especially as the fluffywhiteknight typically refuses to listen, is protecting the integrity of the forum. The 'psychology' of the fluffywhiteknight comes second. Perhaps he will learn (either by encouragement to think about what he's doing or by treating him in a 'mean' fashion -- "carrot or stick"). Being a bit 'abusive' about the prossie, for instance, saying what a fat arse she has, can also help him to get some perspective. Until he learns, he should, if possible, be prevented from posting reviews. Admin does this by banning him (and in exceptional cases, unbanning.)

I'm sure Jim an many others fell asleep halfway through that ... but you did ask!
Maybe we could catch one inset probes in to its mind and put him on UKP with a keyboard and see what is lacking.  Maybe King TTarzan has a point they may need to eat mangoes to increase intake of alpha-carotene and reduce fluff !

We need to catch one first !   :lol: :lol:

jcdmj12

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I know, this post is going to be deeply hypocritical... yes, the average folk in society don't understand why anyone would want to shag a prossie, we're clearly all socially inept losers who can't form relationships with real women, blah, blah, blah...   :thumbsdown:

Anyway, I'm speaking as a bloke who likes to shag prossies, you know that anyway or I wouldn't be here.   :thumbsup:

So what's the thinking behind white knight fluffying?  Is this an even more awkward and socially inept type of prossie-shagger almost completely devoid of any civvy female company, falling in love with the girl?   :blush:

Or are the white knight fluffies merely pimps or alter-egos of a disgruntled prossie, desperate to show a bunch of strangers how good she is at sucking dick?   :angelgirl:   

White knight fluffies, share your tales too!   :crazy:

I think they lack basic self awareness and mistake infatuation for actual love. I am a great one for falling in 'whore-love' with escorts who have given me a particularly filthy seeing-to; for a few days I can't stop thinking about it, wanting to book the next session etc etc BUT I'm aware that it's basically the same as having taken a shitload of drugs; being fucked that intensely messes with your brain chemistry, and you just need to let things settle down a bit. 

When I was younger I'd get cuntstruck with civvy girls the same way and think I was going to marry them; I've grown out of it, recognise it for what it is now, and just enjoy it until it subsides.  I'd suggest that fluffies haven't reached that stage yet.

Sparquin

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I think it is called a Mary Magdelene Complex. Doing crazy things for whores.

Offline David1970

The other reason they protect ladies and give glowing reviews is that they get freebies and discount from females and Agencies. It is not all do because they are sad bastards.

vw

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The other reason they protect ladies and give glowing reviews is that they get freebies and discount from females and Agencies. It is not all do because they are sad bastards.
Someone told me that his superior etiquette gets him many cheap punts, extended punts and better service, how the fuck does he know how polite I am on a punt ? What a delusional twat just because I didn't have a nice thing to say to him is no indicator of how I behave with other people !

Offline Horizontal pleasures


 You just never see rich successful people using hookers.  Not much.  Complete losers obviously
oh yes you do, they try to be discreet and fail, like that French guy Strauss Kahn
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Offline webpunter

oh yes you do, they try to be discreet and fail, like that French guy Strauss Kahn
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Evening Sir - my point was to show that blokes who like hookers aren't just sad losers.  I reckon the more successful you are / more disposable cash available, the more likely you are to have a penchant for hookers. Quite the opposite of the public's conception that such blokes are 'losers'.  When i write public this is directed at the old boilers over @ mnet.  They should have every reason to be fearful of WG's - from a..z.  Thankfully their some of their OH's have AW & UKP.  Until the next time m8 - best wishes for a happy punting NY 2016  :drinks:

Ludwig

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I've written a few posts on fluffy white knight cunts too. I despise them because they contribute little to the forum. I've noticed fluffy cunts tend to write glowing reviews of the same girl over and over again. How exactly does that help?

If I want to read romantic drivel with the most puke inducing fluffiest cuntiest language possible, I'll look up erotic fiction on the web. If I want to find a good WG to shag, I don't want to have to plough my way through fluffy drivel from the same handful or reviewers.

One of my fav WGs was telling me about a fluffy regular who became a stalker. Ended up bombarding her with texts all the time and creeping the fuck out of her.

My opinion on the psychology of fluffy cunts:
1) Lonely saddos who don't know what real love is. Read their reviews, it really does come across that they THINK the WG is in love with them. Fact: No WG will give the same awesome love and sex as a decent wife or girlfriend. I question whether a fluffy cunt has ever even had a real girlfriend.

2) An element of insecure narcissism in their personality, hence the bragging about how great they are as lovers and how special the WG treats them. Again and again, the same old biased reviews are repeated. And they probably don't realise that we don't give a shit, we can also pay for the same girl and get the same service.

3) The white knighting, is because like extreme football fanaticism, an insult (or negative) to the WG is an insult to the white knight. They are so deluded, they don't even realise that punting is ultimately a business transaction. Pay money and get a shag. A fluffy cunt will mix in their own mental delusions into that transaction. It's not longer a transaction. It's a relationship.

4) Maybe fluffy cunts are somewhere on the aspergers or sociopathic spectrum. Hence they can't read signals or work out what real love is. They can only emulate and brag, then bully anyone else who dares question them or their favourite girls.

Rockharders's summation ^^^^^ is bang-on-the-money...   



One Sunday afternoon my doorbell was rung by a couple of Christian evangelists ( I don't recall which branch of the church they claimed to represent - Mormonism, Jehovah's witnesses or some other such fucking barking-at-the-moon sect).  I invited them in and I proceeded to spend the next two hours, over a several cups of tea, very methodically & very logically pointing out the various fallacies of, and destroying any legitimacy of, their pathetically feeble belief system. In desperation, one of them eventually cried out plaintively "but God does exist... no, seriously he does...he just, he just does!!!"...

A White Knight will not be swayed from fluffydom by simply having their folly pointed out to them in a post or two.  Fluffbombs such as UncleCottonWoolForBrains, Autisticus Finch, Moronstar, Scarebore, Fluffword02, Horny Dullard, and the rest of the stupefyingly-boring Sixth Form Common Room Collective, are pathologically incapable of recognising their true nature, and thus incapable of digesting any words of advice - any such seed is sown upon stoney ground...


Trying to analyse the psychology of a White Knight / Fluffy is akin to trying to analyse the psychology of a Theist...





« Last Edit: December 25, 2015, 01:33:41 am by Ludwig »

Offline Dani

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It's a funny old thing but in talking with quite a few prossies about this privately, the so-called white knight or fluffy is the worst kind of punter they can have. Worst because they feel they're 'different' and have some kind of connection other punters do not. Worst, in that they're the biggest boundary pushers for the prossie. The sort of people who try to contact them outside of the booking or stick their nose into they're private life. The sort of men who feel that their familiarity and money, for a particular prossie should buy them favours that other punters don't have.



This is so true.  Many prossies won't say so for fear of upsetting paying clients but whenever a discussion on the worst punters comes up either in person or in a private area non prossies can't read on other forums it is always the über fluffier who get talked about.  The ones who think they speak for you or like to intrude into your private life with personal questions or who think they are connected to you or special to you or who can contact you whenever they feel like all cause problems.  I imagine the majority of us have partners even if we tell you we don't (it's nothing to do with anyone else) so don't want contact out of bookings, we don't have as connection or think you are special unless you mean 'special' as in not all there. We certainly do not need you speaking for us as that is actually insulting as you are assuming we are for some reason unable to speak for ourselves
It makes us feel uncomfortable the next time we see you for a booking. You may not notice but it's an awful feeling knowing someone who is paying for sex probably is waiting for extra from you in someway because of one of the above reasons.  By doing any of the above you may well find you fav lady is "too busy" to see you
I have no idea why some men do it but I do think these are the guys who should avoid GFE bookings altogether as they are suited more to the men who don't do any of the above

Punting is supposed to be fun (as I keep saying) but doing any of the fanboy or white knight crao you are taking the fun out of this hobby. Not just for other punters but for the poor prossie you are doing it about as not only does she then get pages of arguing about her here she also ends up feeling uncomfortable around you

Offline JEH7376

The voice of reason as ever, dani

vw

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This is so true.  Many prossies won't say so for fear of upsetting paying clients but whenever a discussion on the worst punters comes up either in person or in a private area non prossies can't read on other forums it is always the über fluffier who get talked about.  The ones who think they speak for you or like to intrude into your private life with personal questions or who think they are connected to you or special to you or who can contact you whenever they feel like all cause problems.  I imagine the majority of us have partners even if we tell you we don't (it's nothing to do with anyone else) so don't want contact out of bookings, we don't have as connection or think you are special unless you mean 'special' as in not all there. We certainly do not need you speaking for us as that is actually insulting as you are assuming we are for some reason unable to speak for ourselves
It makes us feel uncomfortable the next time we see you for a booking. You may not notice but it's an awful feeling knowing someone who is paying for sex probably is waiting for extra from you in someway because of one of the above reasons.  By doing any of the above you may well find you fav lady is "too busy" to see you
I have no idea why some men do it but I do think these are the guys who should avoid GFE bookings altogether as they are suited more to the men who don't do any of the above

Punting is supposed to be fun (as I keep saying) but doing any of the fanboy or white knight crao you are taking the fun out of this hobby. Not just for other punters but for the poor prossie you are doing it about as not only does she then get pages of arguing about her here she also ends up feeling uncomfortable around you
I suspect these girls with PM and email trolls are done so by the lovely fluffies that will then jump in to be nice and the hero.

Will put money on the person sending these threats to LK doesn't like her advertising again to replace him and take away his precious time.  Funny how they started as soon as she joined AW again !

Offline Placebo88

This is so true.  Many prossies won't say so for fear of upsetting paying clients but whenever a discussion on the worst punters comes up either in person or in a private area non prossies can't read on other forums it is always the über fluffier who get talked about.  The ones who think they speak for you or like to intrude into your private life with personal questions or who think they are connected to you or special to you or who can contact you whenever they feel like all cause problems.  I imagine the majority of us have partners even if we tell you we don't (it's nothing to do with anyone else) so don't want contact out of bookings, we don't have as connection or think you are special unless you mean 'special' as in not all there. We certainly do not need you speaking for us as that is actually insulting as you are assuming we are for some reason unable to speak for ourselves
It makes us feel uncomfortable the next time we see you for a booking. You may not notice but it's an awful feeling knowing someone who is paying for sex probably is waiting for extra from you in someway because of one of the above reasons.  By doing any of the above you may well find you fav lady is "too busy" to see you
I have no idea why some men do it but I do think these are the guys who should avoid GFE bookings altogether as they are suited more to the men who don't do any of the above

Punting is supposed to be fun (as I keep saying) but doing any of the fanboy or white knight crao you are taking the fun out of this hobby. Not just for other punters but for the poor prossie you are doing it about as not only does she then get pages of arguing about her here she also ends up feeling uncomfortable around you

All makes sense to me , sure it is not the same as buying a sack of potatoes but it is still a business transaction, and pleasantness and chat at the same time is just a part of that.I chat to shop assistants , don't ask for their private numbers or  a drink after work.For the minority who don't seem able to get this basic premise , the new UKE site could definitely cause issues and may be the reason for some of the escort members going cold on it.A member of the same forum doesn't equal a friend and doesn't equal extra privileges just because they believe they have more insight into you as a person or some kind of tenuous connection.Someone sending a glut of private messages and expecting lots of free sexy chat and extras is the same as a time waster or pest from anywhere else.The concept of the site is very good , but like anything it is still open to abuse.

  To confuse matters I think there are possibly several different types of White Knights ; I have certainly seen the term applied to a diverse range of posters , sometimes misapplied.For a lot of them it is definitely more about their own ego than aiding any escort.It is strange , but a lot of them come across as intelligent and deliberate individuals , who must be operating on some deeper agenda.USH must have known that LK non-review would do her no favours ; the reasons for posting were all related to his own ego , I had no sense of any form of EAS with him.
  As you say Dani , White Knights are one of the things most escorts dread as they create a lot of unwanted hassle.There are very few cases where they are positively encouraged.LK is not my area so I have only read a limited amount about her , but some of it suggests that she does , or at least did , actively encourage , and even orchestrate , such behaviour for the purposes of her own ego and due to excessive interest in her own internet identity on UKP , Twitter and wherever else.She will deny it but there is evidence to the contrary , hopefully she has learned her lesson as the new AW account suggests she wants a fresh start.

Offline azrael

Theres nowt wrong with being fluffy, but as punters we need to be aware that wg's see us a cash cows and numbers, your average wg sees anything between 5-10 guys a day.

That being said white knighters in my opinion are just sad lonely people who get sucked into thinking they are the "be all and end all" in the wg's life. If you think this is happening to you, next time you see a regular ask for a service she doesnt offer saying your other regular offers it, then look at her face for a reaction.  This is when you realise she doesn't love you just your money.

You could ask for  a reduction in price or even a free one ( there is a girl in nottingham who offers this service to her regulars) i had a wg say to me after a set amount of visits she would reduce her price.

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From my understanding white knight are male feminists who agree with the militant feminsits on everything. from men hating, hairy armpit growing etc...

what is white knight fluffy people keep refering too, 2 posts now.

sorry if i should know the answer already.

d00fer

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Lots of good points that may be true IMO, but to me it fundamentally comes down to those wanting to push boundaries beyond a WG's likes, extra time, reduced rates, freebies, etc.. I feel that is the prime motivator for these WKF's, pure selfishness in a potentially very devious way.

SUMO61

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Maybe a good starting point would be to define what a Fluffy or White Knight actually is, because everyone seems to have a view it's Them, not Us.  What behaviour constitutes this labelling?

I'm not clear, so would someone enlighten me?



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Offline PeachyAssFan

They fail to understand that it's purely a business transaction by BOTH parties. You pay and the WGs then put on a performance (and hopefully the one you want). They don't love you, they'd rather not be WGs. They only look forward to seeing your wallet.

Offline laidbackasiandude

Maybe a good starting point would be to define what a Fluffy or White Knight actually is, because everyone seems to have a view it's Them, not Us.  What behaviour constitutes this labelling?

I'm not clear, so would someone enlighten me?

Admin has uploaded the wiki page for this, however I would also suggest having a look through
Uncle's "reviews" here on UKP.

Uncle = USH = unclesweetheart (Former UKP member just recently banned)

Offline David1970

Someone told me that his superior etiquette gets him many cheap punts, extended punts and better service, how the fuck does he know how polite I am on a punt ? What a delusional twat just because I didn't have a nice thing to say to him is no indicator of how I behave with other people !

Sorry,totally confused by this post can someone explain it to me?
Is he talking about me or some else?
Who told him this?

vw

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Sorry,totally confused by this post can someone explain it to me?
Is he talking about me or some else?
Who told him this?
Was talking about uncleswetheart

sorry for confusion in replying to you !

Offline David1970

Was talking about uncleswetheart

sorry for confusion in replying to you !

Thanks, who is uncleswetheart?


Offline Marmalade

25 ‘reviews’ all positive: no-one has that luck to be punting filmstar types

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unfeasibly gorgeous minx

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I wouldn't be surprised if she raises her prices
(no, her profile got deleted, duh)
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every bit as gorgeous as her photos indicate, though none capture the real magic of her appearance … prettiest elfin face and wonderful, sparkling eyes …  It was seamless and perfect …
(several paragraphs of fanboy crap deleted, three reviews of same girl without the slightest criticism, including her high price)


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I know some members are getting tired of the forum favourites getting rave reviews. But these two women are, in my view, matchless: both stunningly beautiful, genuinely highly-sexed, fantastic company, funny, warm, very bright. Also creative.

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O fuck I'm in love again. appreciate how in every aspect Kavita is blessed. It seemed like reality had replaced the fantasy.
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I’ve just come back from the wildest, filthiest and in many ways most remarkable evening of my life
(one of many)  :rolleyes:

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I was and am one exceptionally lucky man to have met her
so he could write some more tripe

Even one that he admits was an ‘average punt’ he gives a positive to!  :dash:

Page upon page of
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incredibly delightful unbelievably wonderful fantastically beautiful,
interrupted only by how big and wonderful his cock is. Totally carried away with his own soft-porn writing style and gives hardly any information about the girls other than a smorgasboard of selective superlatives. I pity the members in his area sitting through such tripe.  :cry:
Eventually banned by Admin for being total saddo fanboy and sharing counts with another poster. Thank fuck. No place being on UKP. :timeout:

Offline smiths

25 ‘reviews’ all positive: no-one has that luck to be punting filmstar types
 (no, her profile got deleted, duh)(several paragraphs of fanboy crap deleted, three reviews of same girl without the slightest criticism, including her high price)

(one of many)  :rolleyes:
 so he could write some more tripe

Even one that he admits was an ‘average punt’ he gives a positive to!  :dash:

Page upon page of interrupted only by how big and wonderful his cock is. Totally carried away with his own soft-porn writing style and gives hardly any information about the girls other than a smorgasboard of selective superlatives. I pity the members in his area sitting through such tripe.  :cry:
Eventually banned by Admin for being total saddo fanboy and sharing counts with another poster. Thank fuck. No place being on UKP. :timeout:

25 out of 25 positive reviews is nowhere near a record on here though Marm, one punter has 58 out of 58 positives and another 64 out of 67 positives, 1 negative and 2 neutrals. Agree about unclesnideheart of course. :thumbsup:

Offline smiths

Thanks, who is uncleswetheart?

Was, that WGs arselicker has been banned, his nick was unclesweetheart in fact aka unclesnideheart or just snide. :timeout:

Offline Marmalade

Just 'cunt' as far as I could see. His reviews couldn't really help anyone else unless it was to have a wank. I know some people like 'colourful' reviews but shit like that needs a buttplug before it smells the forum out.  :vomit: