Message For White Knight Fluffies.

[tonysoprano]

I always knew that Unclesweetoldfart was a a fucking wrong'un.

There has definitely been a mini cartel of fluffy fuckwits on here who have attempted to use certain girls to further their own agendas. The sooner every single one of these sad cunts is outed and banned the better.

[smiths]

Was checking if that 'Atticus Finch' created a new account after his recent banning, but unusually seems to be using unclesweetheart's account, now banned:
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Well I knew unclesnide was WELL dodgy but thanks for checking and discovering this. IMO a big part of the cancer that was trying to destroy UKP is now gone with the banning of these pricks. Merry Christmas.

[Flunt]

I wonder how WKs feel when they realise that they have been lied to, manipulated and shown to look complete mugs?

[tonysoprano]

I wonder how WKs feel when they realise that they have been lied to, manipulated and shown to look complete mugs?

If you mean WG's then in certain cases, i'm pretty sure they are aware of what's going on...

[laidbackasiandude]

Well I knew unclesnide was WELL dodgy but thanks for checking and discovering this. IMO a big part of the cancer that was trying to destroy UKP is now gone with the banning of these pricks. Merry Christmas.

Kudos to you buddy for your tenacity in exposing this "Sweet Heart" every time he posted.

He had form if I'm not mistaken for undermining anyone who challenged the forum darlings
BEFORE the LK love sonnets (thinking of much earlier in the year with that Kavita Lipstick
business and him white knighting her).

I originally thought that Atticus was Uncle's Nephew, as whenever Uncle posted, then shortly
afterwards Atticus would post with his sycophantic ramblings etc. But after what Admin has
exposed think it could be a case of multiple personality disorder syndrome / extreme schizophrenia.

[shagbambi]

A nice Christmas surprise!

Have felt Sylvester was Atticus Finch for some time.  I have disliked his AF  persona from the start and first thought it may have been our friend Marty but settled on Sylvester.  Thought he was just undercover due to Marty issues.

As for USH, the most loathsome fluffy cunt, good riddance.  Can almost hear him slithering to his punts, leaving a slime trail like some hideous slug.

But all three one and the same now that's a major surprise.

[smiths]

A nice Christmas surprise!

Have felt Sylvester was Atticus Finch for some time.  I have disliked his AF  persona from the start and first thought it may have been our friend Marty but settled on Sylvester.  Thought he was just undercover due to Marty issues.

As for USH, the most loathsome fluffy cunt, good riddance.  Can almost hear him slithering to his punts, leaving a slime trail like some hideous slug.

But all three one and the same now that's a major surprise.

I don't think snide is the same person as Finch and Sylvester who definitely are, they know each other and I assume snide let finch use his log-in for dodgy reasons. Also IF Lindsay is to be trusted she said they were 2 different punters as she had punted with both. What is the case in my view is they have conspired together to undermine UKP, and probably with others who we will hopefully find out about in the future.

[Rose_128]

I can also testify they are not the same one person but two individual punters Ush and Sylvester now revealed as Atticus.

As Lindsey stated before, they probably must have shared an account log since Sylvester/Atticus got banned a few days ago.

[vw]

I can also testify they are not the same one person but two individual punters Ush and Sylvester now revealed as Atticus.

As Lindsey stated before, they probably must have shared an account log since Sylvester/Atticus got banned a few days ago.

Yes very underhand devious individuals, 2 of them to watch not just one !

[smiths]

Kudos to you buddy for your tenacity in exposing this "Sweet Heart" every time he posted.

He had form if I'm not mistaken for undermining anyone who challenged the forum darlings
BEFORE the LK love sonnets (thinking of much earlier in the year with that Kavita Lipstick
business and him white knighting her).

I originally thought that Atticus was Uncle's Nephew, as whenever Uncle posted, then shortly
afterwards Atticus would post with his sycophantic ramblings etc. But after what Admin has
exposed think it could be a case of multiple personality disorder syndrome / extreme schizophrenia.

Thanks mate. As I posted above Atticus and Sylvester ARE definitely one and the same, snideheart is linked to them and been caught out by admin.

[Rose_128]

I think Admin stopped lurkers for a bit so unless you have an account you cannot see what is going on on the board, at least not for the moment so this might explain the act of sharing but I agree with Lindsey, Ush and Sylvester/ Atticus are two punters, so not one or three.

[vw]

Thanks mate. As I posted above Atticus and Sylvester ARE definitely one and the same, snideheart is linked to them and been caught out by admin.

Hopefully he will borrow a few of the other forum disrupters accounts and we can have a good clean up maybe that beano, quasi or any of the other excessive back slapping brigade !

[Lindsey_xxx]

I don't think snide is the same person as Finch and Sylvester who definitely are, they know each other and I assume snide let finch use his log-in for dodgy reasons. Also IF Lindsay is to be trusted she said they were 2 different punters as she had punted with both. What is the case in my view is they have conspired together to undermine UKP, and probably with others who we will hopefully find out about in the future.

I agree that it is difficult to trust anyone and people's words should certainly be taken with caution.
I do not accept bookings from either of these two punters anymore, so I would have no reason to defend them.

This is Admins site, you break his rules, you get banned 

[Rose_128]

It is difficult, booking is a booking and you don't want to get sucked into all this as a WG. You want to remain impartial. What is between punters on here should stay there and girls should not be blamed for getting reviews from even the bad apples because at the end it is business for them, albeit you get to the point of not being able to see someone any longer,as Lindsey says, and I have made my decisions too.

Even IF you still decide to see them it does not mean you agree with their antics on here or approve of it in any way.

[vw]

It is difficult, booking is a booking and you don't want to get sucked into all this as a WG. You want to remain impartial. What is between punters on here should stay there and girls should not be blamed for getting reviews from even the bad apples because at the end it is business for them, albeit you get to the point of not being able to see someone any longer,as Lindsey says, and I have made my decisions too.

Even IF you still decide to see them it does not mean you agree with their antics on here or approve it in any way.

Money is money after all.

I have said in the past an unclesweetheart review is bad for any escort, orla being a prime example and his missing out the negatives to gain favour like the radio silence could have been mentioned.  Hopefully many ladies will not get caught in the crossfire of shots aimed at twats like that.

[rockharders]

A nice Christmas surprise!

Have felt Sylvester was Atticus Finch for some time.  I have disliked his AF  persona from the start and first thought it may have been our friend Marty but settled on Sylvester.  Thought he was just undercover due to Marty issues.

As for USH, the most loathsome fluffy cunt, good riddance.  Can almost hear him slithering to his punts, leaving a slime trail like some hideous slug.

But all three one and the same now that's a major surprise.

Saddo internet trolls with no life sums them up. Doesn't surprise me one bit they do all this devious shit to troll this site.

Narcissistic, sociopathic, insecure, manipulative and anti social. Nothing else could explain their white knighting and fluffy cuntness.

Good riddance but there's still quite a few more of these wankers to clear out from UKP. They are a danger to prossies and a danger to UKP.

[tonysoprano]

Even IF you still decide to see them it does not mean you agree with their antics on here or approve of it in any way.

Well as unclesweetoldfart was openly boasting of the punts he had lined up with you over Xmas, i'd sincerely hope you would have the sense to cancel.

If not, then i hope the money is worth compromising your safety and emotional health by dealing with with a devious, lying nut-job like him. Good luck.

[Rose_128]

There were no bookings with him since August. I am down with a cold right now anyway so even if anyone wanted to see me I can't work.

[smiths]

It is difficult, booking is a booking and you don't want to get sucked into all this as a WG. You want to remain impartial. What is between punters on here should stay there and girls should not be blamed for getting reviews from even the bad apples because at the end it is business for them, albeit you get to the point of not being able to see someone any longer,as Lindsey says, and I have made my decisions too.

Even IF you still decide to see them it does not mean you agree with their antics on here or approve of it in any way.

Yes as long as that's ALL it is. Sadly I don't believe that's all it is though, I believe and no I cant prove it that some white knights have been conspiring with some WGs to agree reviews in the hope the WG/s will get more punters off the back of them, and the white knights have been offered something in exchange, free sex for example. My trust in WGs is at an all time low and particularly UKP forum WGs who have punted with these punters, i don't knowingly punt with any thankfully. Now that's not to say ALL these WGs are involved, the problem i have is i don't know who is and who isn't for sure so i have a big question mark over them ALL.

Now for ME as a consequence of that i will no longer be believing the reviews of a number of "punters" i see as linked or tainted by their links/support for those banned. At this point i wont name these punters except The Beano who i think is well dodgy.

[shagbambi]

Can just see USH's Christmas punt with Rose.  Both on the couch following UKP...

[laidbackasiandude]

Money is money after all.

I have said in the past an unclesweetheart review is bad for any escort, orla being a prime example and his missing out the negatives to gain favour like the radio silence could have been mentioned.  Hopefully many ladies will not get caught in the crossfire of shots aimed at twats like that.

Possibly true, but also inclined to think of this famous phrase,

"There's no such thing as bad publicity"

"Sweet Heart" has issues along with any of his alter-egos/identities, but believe he was incentivised in writing
up his Mills and Boon style reviews in exchange for significant discounts etc for repeat business.

[Rose_128]

Can just see USH's Christmas punt with Rose.  Both on the couch following UKP...

Not really, Shagbambi, I would prefer to stay away from it but wanted to agree with Lindsey on here to clarify that they are two guys and not one or multiple personalities.

[smiths]

Possibly true, but also inclined to think of this famous phrase,

"There's no such thing as bad publicity"

"Sweet Heart" has issues along with any of his alter-egos/identities, but believe he was incentivised in writing
up his Mills and Boon style reviews in exchange for significant discounts etc for repeat business.

Totally agree he was incentivised, good word that in some way, i suggested free sex above but it could be something else of course. And how many others have been or are being incentivised i wonder.

[Rose_128]

Totally agree he was incentivised, good word that in some way, i suggested free sex above but it could be something else of course. And how many others have been or are being incentivised i wonder.

I totally understand, Smiths. I am not defending him but to me specifically, he never asked for any discounts, relationship etc. I have no idea what went on between him and others but from the three bookings in summer we had I never received any requests for discounts, free sex etc. I do offer discounts for repeat bookings to everyone as a little thank you but had anyone pushed for a discount for writing reviews etc.or wanted more I would have shown them the door. Again, I am only speaking for myself.

[Lz-129]

Tbh, I am fucked if I know what's going on anymore. I just want to fuck the best girls and by and large that's what I've done and I'll hopefully continue to do so.
I've had a great 2015 but it's not been without hiccups on the way (Marty being the worse)
This bitter in fighting hurts everyone but hopefully we can all pull through and get back to what ukp does best
Merry Xmas all. Hope it's a good one

[tonysoprano]

Totally agree he was incentivised, good word that in some way, i suggested free sex above but it could be something else of course. And how many others have been or are being incentivised i wonder.

I don't trust any of these cunts that write the fantasy wank stories they then pass off as 'reviews'. I also don't trust any of the girls they are writing about so would have no interest in seeing them.

Any WG that does collude with deviants like them will end up regretting it. And they will only have themselves to blame for that.

[Rose_128]

I don't trust any of these cunts that write the fantasy wank stories they then pass off as 'reviews'. I also don't trust any of the girls they are writing about so would have no interest in seeing them.

Any WG that does collude with deviants like them will end up regretting it. And they will only have themselves to blame for that.

Sometimes you cannot know how things are going to pan out, my bookings with him were in summer when things on the forum were still holding together. Who would have known at that time?

Anyway Merry Christmas everyone.

[lewishamguy]

Hopefully he will borrow a few of the other forum disrupters accounts and we can have a good clean up maybe that beano, quasi or any of the other excessive back slapping brigade !

Yeap this two fluffies one with a second chance here but still needs to be cleaned up sooner or later.

[vw]

I totally understand, Smiths. I am not defending him but to me specifically, he never asked for any discounts, relationship etc. I have no idea what went on between him and others but from the three bookings in summer we had I never received any requests for discounts, free sex etc. I do offer discounts for repeat bookings to everyone as a little thank you but had anyone pushed for a discount for writing reviews etc.or wanted more I would have shown them the door. Again, I am only speaking for myself.

Atticus told me on PM he received many discounted bookings and extensions due to his superior etiquette and that is the reason he is so polite.   

[Rose_128]

I have had a booking with Sylvester back in May when he paid my full hour one hour fee but no review was ever published until autumn under Atticus. I have also done a foursome booking with him back in summer with two more girls well reviewed on here, I did give him a small discount as it was a repeat booking but not seen him for bookings since.

Anything is possible and you cannot influence what others do with other girls.

[vw]

Yeap this two fluffies one with a second chance here but still needs to be cleaned up sooner or later.

Wish he quasimodo would fuck off jumped up twat.  He is on the if he has met automatic blacklist girls along side a few others mentioned on here, sure that are nice but Finch and his coffee meetups and over familiarity puts me off and a lot of others to.

[laidbackasiandude]

I don't trust any of these cunts that write the fantasy wank stories they then pass off as 'reviews'. I also don't trust any of the girls they are writing about so would have no interest in seeing them.

Any WG that does collude with deviants like them will end up regretting it. And they will only have themselves to blame for that.

Sadly that doesn't really matter, in the sense that all these GUSHING REVIEWS that span several pages provides
them with FREE publicity on this forum, in other words circumventing forum rules of no touting IMO.

[Rose_128]

@ laidbackasiandude I hope I don't come across as touting for myself here, since Comaminion mentioned me on here before I think I decided to at least try and clarify certain information/ add my lot but I know everyone has the right to make their own judgment and fair enough to it.

I actually feel quite saddened over the events of the last few weeks, people rowing etc. sharing accounts etc. but there is not much I can do apart from make my own decisions and get on with my own stuff.

[SamLP]

Good to see those undermining this forum getting their just due. I had my suspicion that Atticus was Sylvester. Initially I thought it may be Q but then I looked at when Sylvester stopped posting and Atticus started and adding the style of writing and attitude I was convinced they were the same. However several weeks ago this was confirmed to me when he commented on a picture posted on UKE by Michelle Indie where he said something about needing to book again and bring some jelly babies over like the last time. That rang a bell as I remember reading a review mentioning jelly babies so I checked Michelle's reviews and indeed it was Sylvester's review that had mentioned him bringing jelly babies along. I informed a couple of members who had told Admin and as it turns out he was shit scared after provoking McFly/Asianbeast in the STD thread and over PM's that he wanted to start a new account. However old habits die hard, he still acted the same way if not worse, white knighting, trolling and abusing punters at will always claiming to be a gentleman. People like him will eventually be exposed for what they really are.

[lewishamguy]

Wish he quasimodo would fuck off jumped up twat.  He is on the if he has met automatic blacklist girls along side a few others mentioned on here, sure that are nice but Finch and his coffee meetups and over familiarity puts me off and a lot of others to.

The irony is that most of this fluffy twats enlightened this forum since they've started reviewing of Lindsey,

 

[Placebo88]

It is difficult, booking is a booking and you don't want to get sucked into all this as a WG. You want to remain impartial. What is between punters on here should stay there and girls should not be blamed for getting reviews from even the bad apples because at the end it is business for them, albeit you get to the point of not being able to see someone any longer,as Lindsey says, and I have made my decisions too.

Even IF you still decide to see them it does not mean you agree with their antics on here or approve of it in any way.

I see what you mean , business is business.Did you experience anything untoward from either of them during bookings or via messaging ? If not , then none of this is your concern or responsibility , and I think its incorrect for others to tar you by association.I am not going to avoid a certain escort because someone who I personally dislike sees her.Similarly , a review by someone who I don't rate will not keep me away , it will have no bearing on me either way.

  From an escorts standpoint I think in most cases it is best to give UKP a wide birth.This site is for the benefit of punters , not escorts , and for most escorts reading it causes a lot more stress and worry than it does help.If you're doing a good job , the overall opinion of you on UKP will reflect that without any actual site involvement or even reading on your part.If you have the attitude where you aren't going to be upset by unkind remarks , then reading reviews can help to improve your service.Site politics and manoeuvring are outside of your control , and do not need to be considered unless someone is making propositions to you directly , in which case block them , report them or whatever you feel appropriate.

[vw]

The irony is that most of this fluffy twats enlightened this forum since they've started reviewing of Lindsey,

 

Little Katie used to use this forum as part of the vetting process and on here website suggested those interested in booking join, implied you wont get a booking unless joining, no wonder she has so many deluded white knights many of who have never seen her just trying to score points in the application process.

[Placebo88]

I'm useless as far as technology goes , don't understand IP addresses or any of that so not sure of the exact nature of what infringement has taken place.Have 2 separate accounts been accessed from the same computer or has 1 account ( USH ) been accessed from 2 different residences ( USH and AF addresses) ? If they are real life mates who live close enough to visit one another , couldn't AF have gone around USH's and just read the site on USH's computer ? Sorry to be so thick , I'm struggling to understand.

[vw]

I'm useless as far as technology goes , don't understand IP addresses or any of that so not sure of the exact nature of what infringement has taken place.Have 2 separate accounts been accessed from the same computer or has 1 account ( USH ) been accessed from 2 different residences ( USH and AF addresses) ? If they are real life mates who live close enough to visit one another , couldn't AF have gone around USH's and just read the site on USH's computer ? Sorry to be so thick , I'm struggling to understand.

You are right maybe the lonely guys were topping and tailing in bed on Christmas eve ! How Romantic of the Turpentine drinkers !   

So what they have gone whether they were at the same house, who gives a fuck they have gone and hopefully no weaseling their way back in like that Q twat.  Yippie !

[Fishface]

I'm useless as far as technology goes , don't understand IP addresses or any of that so not sure of the exact nature of what infringement has taken place.Have 2 separate accounts been accessed from the same computer or has 1 account ( USH ) been accessed from 2 different residences ( USH and AF addresses) ? If they are real life mates who live close enough to visit one another , couldn't AF have gone around USH's and just read the site on USH's computer ? Sorry to be so thick , I'm struggling to understand.

WTF?!!

[Rose_128]

I see what you mean , business is business.Did you experience anything untoward from either of them during bookings or via messaging ? If not , then none of this is your concern or responsibility , and I think its incorrect for others to tar you by association.I am not going to avoid a certain escort because someone who I personally dislike sees her.Similarly , a review by someone who I don't rate will not keep me away , it will have no bearing on me either way.

  From an escorts standpoint I think in most cases it is best to give UKP a wide birth.This site is for the benefit of punters , not escorts , and for most escorts reading it causes a lot more stress and worry than it does help.If you're doing a good job , the overall opinion of you on UKP will reflect that without any actual site involvement or even reading on your part.If you have the attitude where you aren't going to be upset by unkind remarks , then reading reviews can help to improve your service.Site politics and manoeuvring are outside of your control , and do not need to be considered unless someone is making propositions to you directly , in which case block them , report them or whatever you feel appropriate.

Of course they were both messaging me and other girls on uke. A lot of guys on there do. Everybody flirts there and says how are you today but that is what the site has been created for. I have not done any bookings with Uncle since summer as it was my decision. I cannot publish reasons why as this is his personal life.

With Sylvester I met him for booking twice and we attempted the third in October but in the end I could not do it because of the events that kicked in at the end of September and I could not get on with work. He later reviewed me as Atticus but I am pretty sure he was referring to the first booking we had in May.

It is difficult, back in summer nobody could have known/predicted of the events of now. Sometimes you can get sucked into things you don't even know how.

[vw]

With Sylvester I met him for booking twice and we attempted the third in October but in the end I could not do it because of the events that kicked in at the end of September and I could not get on with work. He later reviewed me as Atticus but I am pretty sure he was referring to the first booking we had in May.

So a devious calculated move by Atticus to improve what those lot refer to as their standing in the punting community.

[Placebo88]

You are right maybe the lonely guys were topping and tailing in bed on Christmas eve ! How Romantic of the Turpentine drinkers !   

So what they have gone whether they were at the same house, who gives a fuck they have gone and hopefully no weaseling their way back in like that Q twat.  Yippie !

I wasn't complaining about the outcome , it needs doing to maintain order , remind members of the purpose of UKP and what will happen if they misuse it.It was only the technology part that confused me.

[nike]

Great thread and just shows how strong the feelings are on this subject, 6 pages in just a couple of days. i've been targeted by the FWKs  on two occasions recently and even received pms giving reasons why I should back off.     

Great post Smiths.

[azrael]

I havent read the white knighted reviews but heres my two bobs worth, i dont have a problem reading fluffy reviews whether positive or negative just as long as they provide the specifics it shouldnt matter how its powder coated.
That being said this is a site for punters which i regard as being a "brotherhood" where guys and gals pay for sex. So if a review is posted and has all the necessary details needed then there isnt a need to harass the poster or defend a prossie, there will always be questions asked which is only natural of course

[Cuntminion]

I can also testify they are not the same one person but two individual punters Ush and Sylvester now revealed as Atticus.

As Lindsey stated before, they probably must have shared an account log since Sylvester/Atticus got banned a few days ago.

Atticus and Sylvester are the same though and both done reviews for you

[vw]

Atticus and Sylvester are the same though and both done reviews for you

And patted everyone that reviewed Ellie on the back, probably a fluffy army recruitment policy.   

[Rose_128]

Sylvester reviewed me as a part of the foursome and later as atticus. I did not know first who he was until he contacted me in October saying he had to change his account and whether I was alright and he could see me again, but never said who he was exactly. Later I had a review from him going back to May but at that time I already knew it was him as Sylvester because I have heard stories already.

When I messaged him he said he had his reasons but it was not my place to come here and announce it. You have to be discreet especially when the name change was for a reason. But apparently it was a public secret on here anyway so I did not pay any attention to it because it was not my place. All you have to do is give good service and what happens between punters on here is beyond your control.

Yes he was bumping up my reviews but I never asked him to. You cannot stop people from doing what they want.

[Cuntminion]

@ laidbackasiandude I hope I don't come across as touting for myself here, since Comaminion mentioned me on here before I think I decided to at least try and clarify certain information/ add my lot but I know everyone has the right to make their own judgment and fair enough to it.

I actually feel quite saddened over the events of the last few weeks, people rowing etc. sharing accounts etc. but there is not much I can do apart from make my own decisions and get on with my own stuff.

You honestly have no scruples if a member is double accounting to your benefit or your pocket is fine

You seem to have been aware atticus was Sylvester for a good while and didn't give a shit, punter wise its not healthy behaviour and has often proven to go south pretty quickly with these type of punters

You don't have to endorse it but to be aware and do nothing is equally as bad , as much praise as they give you they could be fucking awful to the next girl

[Cuntminion]

Sylvester reviewed me as a part of the foursome and later as atticus. I did not know first who he was until he contacted me in October saying he had to change his account but never said who he was exactly. Later I had a review from him going back to May but at that time I already knew it was him as Sylvester because I have heard stories already.

When I messaged him he said he had his reasons but it was not my place to come here and announce it. You have to be discreet especially when the name change was for a reason. But apparently it was a public secret on here anyway so I did not pay any attention to it because it was not my place. All you have to do is give good service and what happens between punters on here is beyond your control.

No that's bollocks I'm sorry

I have been in the position were someone now banned was crazily running down a girl (was actually you)  for no reason

Did I applaud him because I'm not in your fluff club?
Did I ignore it because he was a mate?

No

I cut him loose and reported him because I will not support unstable behaviour through acceptance or indifference

Have some accountability , its too easy to sideline yourself